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Sending out the bat signal for commissioners - draft dates, roll calls etc
Having kept up the regular season champ, 4th in the playoffs and no promotion tradition.
I'll start thinking of a new team name now Jason Worilds has retired and devoted his life to Jesus.
Will also be sifting through the wreckage of my keeper team and undergoing another rebrand when a comedy crime presents itself (annoyingly Bell and Blount are only just getting round to serving the bans I named my team for last year).
Can I suggest Sunday the 30th as draft day?
Draft Date is currently set for Sunday 30th August, can't remember what time off the top of my head. let me know if that's a no-no, and there's a small chance i'll listen to you
so: Keeper, please don't set draft for the same time as Div 2
Does the Commish' need to reactivate it?
I only remember because he picked Philip Rivers in the second round. Amazed that backfired...
I replaced someone else towards the end of last season so I have never been through the draft process before. How long does the process last?
in your mind: that whole fucking season when you realise who you passed on
fuck you, Jeremy Maclin
But probably only a couple of hours of actual activity, if that.
If I remember correctly we had Division 1 & 2 drafts the Sunday before the opening weekend, and the keeper 2 weeks before?
Do the opposite then? Keeper September 6th?
potentially considering a pun-based rebrand.
...for keeper with the Knights of Wine and Roses, and with Cirque du Souffle in Div 1.
Defo going to draft a QB before round 9 this year, not fucking about with RG3, Eli and Flacco for the entire season again. *shudders*
Already doing a live draft on 23rd, so would prefer not then, but pretty much any other day would suit. And I'll just multi-task on the 23rd if I have to.
They alternated having amazing and crap weeks. You could tell which would be which, because the amazing one would be on my bench.
It just KEPT HAPPENING.
Basically someone picks a random card from a deck and asks you if you think it will be red or black. You guess, and if you're wrong, you drink. You keep going until you get it right. It's obviously 50/50 each time, but you can get so, so fucked.
And based on the above I probably shouldn't.
Both need new names as I've moved house and Cordarrelle Patterson is shite. The Pigeons are looking to establish themselves as Div I's greatest ever dynasty, the 'fish are looking to not become the keeper league's version of the early 90s Bills and actually win a championship game this time.
I'm available for drafting on both the 30th and the 6th.
At least I think it's Div 1. Pretty sure I didn't get relegated.
I know nothing about NFL yet. I may need some help :'(
(The NFL has gangs, not teams, inspired by the Jets and Sharks in West Side Story).
But I'm in for keeper and league 1
Can we organise an email list for bants so I don't have log in here?
Email group thing would be good
reporting for duty for Keeper league and 2nd division of regular league.
The 30th August and 6th September are good dates for me for drafting, as I have another league drafting on 23rd August.
*checks he's logged in*
roll up, roll up, Division 2-dwellers. here's how it went down last year.
promoted: Brighton B-52s (tea_segall?), Insankey Clown Posse (kenako), A Game of Julio Jones (wilykit). DIVISION ONE DUDE, INVITE THESE GUYS. thanks
i don't think anyone was inactive at the end of the season, so nine remaining managers should be:
i think that's right. most of you post now and again so that's fine but if you're an irregular poster (SuperInuit, Trumpet, svlad, i'm looking at you) can you confirm you're taking part. we've already got a waiting list of would-bes. if i've got someone wrong, let me know. my recordkeeping is shocking
the three people i need to invite are who? i got sheeldz and lospolloshermanos (serves you right for rejecting some trade that i apparently found in my inbox that i proposed and have no memory of, buddy. let that possibly be a lesson to you). WHO ELSE? TELL ME please
current draft is ACTUALLY set for Sunday 6 September. probably shouldn't have said it was 30 August upthread should i. STILL, 6 SEPTEMBER IT REMAINS. rule in Div 2, as it's not a prestige league, is if i see you doing nothing for three weeks, you get kicked out. if you're going to be away for three weeks, let me know and i might be lenient. MIGHT. if you're not going to commit to it, don't bother playing. people who got kicked out last year have lifetime bans while i'm in the Ginger Hammer role and damn it feels good.
register interest below for would-be joiners for slackers.
so keeper league draft date remains as 30 AUGUST. I'll post more detailed keeper stuff tomorrow
I might change this name for the upcoming season.
setting up multiple reminders so not to miss the draft again
Still, the big time beckons.
(Glasgow franchise relocation out of Scotland) who will hopefully rekindle some of the debut season magic that got me promoted in the first place.
And, if so, can I be linked up to the rules so I can get a good luck at how the game works?
The basic rules to the game:
You hold a draft where each team takes it in turns to select players.
Each week you select a team of a QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, a TE, a K and a Defence from the players you've drafted or acquired through free agency & trades. Your team then goes head to head with another team in the league which means it's not about scoring more points than everyone in the league, you only need to outscore your opponent for that gameweek.
Sounds from above it'd need some of last year's players yo drop out for me to get a spot, but I'll check in here occasionally as I'm definitely keen.
You can get familiar with how to play the game while waiting for a spot to open up.
Hostile take-over of a failing div 2 franchise in early/mid-season, culminating in micro managed promotion* - do I need an invite for Div 1? I wasn't part of the start of season stuff last year, so I'm not really sure how to register etc. But definitely up for it.
*Was on holiday without internet for the final game and playoffs, I have no idea how I fluked even finishing top 4, never mind getting to the final and getting promoted.
Or anywhere near enough to be bothered travelling to Sheffield, are you interested in joining a LIVE DRAFT with REAL PEOPLE? On SUNDAY the 23rd OF August? There is probably a place or 2 going if you're keen. Not my league I hasten to add, so I'd have to clear it with the comish, but I'm his boss so he'll have to say yes.
But away that weekend
He'll get those shields down in time.
Come on (didyousay)Han(d) old buddy, don't let me down...
This more or less works I think.
Keeper league- think I might have won this last year? Genuinely can't remember.
Might have been relegated from Div 1... can't remember that either. Has anyone got this written down? If so, someone add me to Div 2 please.
I won the regular season but CRASHED OUT in the Keeper playoffs.
Finished third from bottom in Div 1- so think that means I'm Div 2 now? How do I get an invite?
6 September works for me.
I'm very much BACK for Div II, currently the Wapping Dockers, may be renamed For Whom the Joique Bell Tolls depending on how I feel.
was sure that was going to be over the 30 character limit
but no, 29
Seem to end up with Eric Decker every time. I hope that's not a sign.
Denard Robinson! Latavius Murray! Dwayne Bowe! Will need to dust off the spreadsheet before The Big Day.
Percy Harvin's a Bill, CJ Spiller's a Saint, Trent Richardson's a Raider. I'd forgotten all of those happened
and another successful season in amongst it
I can't put in the necessary hours to turn my team of no-hopers into div II winners.
also leaving Div II after two years of similar mediocrity to my own is svlad
in: johntosh2001 and umlaut_ampersand, being the two who asked first. So:
JOHNTOSH2001 AND UMLAUT_AMPERSAND, PLEASE DM ME YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES SO I CAN INVITE YOU
i can't invite you to the league otherwise!
Getting a bit concerned Div 1 won't be revived in time
No response yet though.
It's just how he rolls.
Can someone go round his house, check there aren't loads of milk bottles lined up?
Hopefully he gets it...
Shall we give it another week or so and then just set up the league afresh? That way we'll have enough time to send invites to everyone who needs them and organise the draft.
There'd also be a spare spot, so whoever lost the division 2 playoff last year can be promoted in his place.
Was getting a wee bit worried - btw, do I need to send my email address to anyone? As mentioned before, I was a post draft addition to div 2 last year, so I don't think anyone has my contact etc
Volunteers for commish?
since i first asked, he's off the list.
SPARE SLOT IN DIVISION 2. LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE INTERSTED
... is on this weekend and we are short a couple of players.
Brighton B52's reporting for Div 1 duty after winning last years bowl game.
Are there any keeper spots btw?
Don't want to set unrealistic expectations for the lads.
Bryant McKantgetskinnie (is that didyousayhand?) and can't remember what users own/owned My Son Is Also Named Bortles and Unnecessary Roughness
Plus is anyone willing to take over as commissioner for the keeper? I won't have much time on my hands this season
Can we please move the div 2 draft time to later than 5pm please!
will probably move draft time when i get home tonight
I'm doing a keeper league (not the DiS one) and I'd like to know what defat pick I'll be charged for keeping certain people.
How is it decided and is there any way for me to see in advance?
drafted in. It goes up a round every year.
e.g. I drafted Le'Veon Bell in r5 two years ago. I spent a 4th on keeping him last year and will spend a 3rd on keeping him this year. Think that's how it works.
I took over this particular team mid season last season and my keeper choice looks like 2 from 4. I'm not totally sure what rounds they were taken in so have used last years ADP as a guide
Antonio Brown - R1/R2
Travis Kelce - R14/15 - (possibly waivers)
CJ Anderson - undrafted and taken off waivers
Johnathan Stewart - I picked him up off waivers but unlikely to be anything other than a late round pick if he was drafted at all.
Now clearly if the draft pick spent wasn't an issue I'd be going Antonio Brown/ CJ Anderson.
However, I'm veering towards Kelce/ CJ Anderson as both have huge upsides this year and at worst are very solid starters for R14/ R13/R12 or something like that.
There's enough receiver depth that I reckon I can pick another RB1 in round 1 (I'm picking 2nd) and then go WR 1/ WR 2 on the way back round (it's 16 team league unfortunately.) Looking at ADP and my own rankings that's going to leave me with 2 of Emmanuel Saunders/ De Andre Hopkins/ Edelman/ Jordan Matthews.
What do you think?
If he has, say, Jamaal Charles and is keeping him in the first round, you can keep Kelce and Anderson and pick Brown up second, effecitvely giving you three keepers. I doubt there will be any good RBs that aren't being kept in a 16 league team.
You need to get on to the guy who runs it.
We need to get Div 1 started up.
Are you volunteering to run the show?
If there aren't any objections I'll get it sorted out tonight.
I believe that you will be a just and virtuous leader.
Say evening of 8th or 9th :)
Do we need a doodle emailed around?
Do the words "Willis" and "McGahee" mean anything to you?
I had forgotten about that. Please don't torpedo my season!
Picked Jordy Nelson in my live draft tonight, he was out for the season before the draft had even finished.
This is why drafts should be left as late as possible.
Nelson's in my keeper team too, but at least I can just keep someone else. They'll know I don't want them though, which will be awkward.
We have a keeper league and the draft had just started and then Nelson got injured. The guy who kept him was pretty sick about it
in the absence of didyousayhand. So I'll get it set up, and I need email addresses messaged to me ASAP from:
colonel_getafe, steved, kenako, parisiangoldfish, smyth2, ThierryEnnui, wilykit, tea_segall, severed799 and podge.
When I've got these I'll set it up and send round a doodle to get a draft date set up.
Other issues: no sign of podge in this thread, and didyousayhand is missing. What do we do with the 2 places, assuming neither turns up? Promote two more or run a ten team league this year? Promoting means further fiddling with Div 2. Brusma?
Personally I'd rather keep it a 12 man league, anything less just seems a bit Fisher-Price but I'd understand if Brusma was hesitant to let anyone else escape his clutches. Could we open it up to attract some non-DiSers to make up the numbers?
as well as someone to run it?
i'll happily have a crack at it for a season, see if i can run two leagues at once
it's not like i've got anything on at work to distract me, tbf
i'd rather not lose anyone and go down to ten teams. aside from anything else, i think one of the ones to be promoted would be me. which would just make the whole thing even messier.
i'd suggest open it up to non or ex DiSers. i know folk going straight into Div 1 isn't ideal, but neither are people disappearing.
Let's just find two new lucky people if the others don't turn up.
severed, steved, ThierryEnnui, wilykit, podge. Plus I have someone lined up for a spare space.
sent you a message with my email address. Cheers!
*throws black delay of game flag in memory of didyousayhand*
I know someone who would very much be up for that spare spot if it's not already spoken for.
All hail the new commissioner's reign of terr...iffic management!
Could we possibly draft this Sunday or Monday?
where we can vote on the best date. I for one will be voting next Sunday, love a good Sunday night draft. Also it's the keeper draft this Sunday isn't it?
I hope your buddy is an auditor/accountant/general calculator abuser. The fun we'll have!
But he is not one of them. The competition for the best pun team name based on the wording of FRS 102 will be fierce.
So far Captain Munnerlyn and his Magic Band (has this been done?) is in the lead. Then a big drop off before The Sean Hill Gang and The Eric Kendricks Experience. Thoughts?
if you're still looking for someone to take over the running of keeper league, i've DMed you. obvs will need to sort this soon to make sure everyone's sorted their keepers before Sunday
How do I hand over the reins? And no one has claimed ownership of BryantMckantgetskinnie (assume that's didyousayhand) so we will have a spare slot
that or clicking on my team (Borts) and there might be something there? can't check while i'm at work, sorry
go to "Manage" and then click "Designate League Owner"
Let your reign of terror commence
i'm just making a list of last year's draft to see who'll get what picks
holy crap Johnny Sacks had a great draft, Rounds 6 through 8 are obscene
I'd love it if poss.
I've declared didyousayhand and podge officially out, and have two replacements in. I have email addresses from everyone but wilykit, if anyone knows him give him a bump. Severed, I have picked your email up from an old trade offer, if you have switched from your swedish band-based address let me know.
I've sent out a doodle to democratically pick the best draft day, check your emails.
That I WILL be picking a date that I can make it, democracy or not.
Ended up with White with a shin injury and Pierre-paul who is now missing a finger lol
that he'll get some yards in the first 6 weeks while White is out.
I still don't know the rules of this game.
HERE IS THE RULE I AM IMPLEMENTING!
If you kept a player last year, his value this year is Last Year's Round -1. For example: I kept Demaryius Thomas for a 2nd rounder last year. this year, he'll cost me a first rounder. I kept Andrew Luck for a 5th rounder. this year he'll cost me a 4th rounder.
So, that's means you can't keep anyone you kept for a 1st rounder last year. So I can't keep Marshawn Lynch.
Please can you confirm your keepers by, say, Thursday night/Friday morning, so I can start sorting things on Friday. I'll try and get a list of who picks when up, taking account of trades last year etc, by Saturday. Can you all come back and check and let me know if you think something's wrong? Appreciate this is all short notice but draft is scheduled for SUNDAY as it stands, and I think there were no complains.
Oh, and tea_segall? The spare keeper slot is yours. DM me your email address.
HERE ENDETH THE KEEPER ANNOUNCEMENT
Anyone want to trade for a 5th straight up?
- Gave up Jezza Hill right before he exploded. He has a 10th round keeper value or similar.
- Gave up Travis Kelce. He has a 14th round keeper value.
- Acquired Julius Thomas. He immediately got injured and then left Denver for Jacksonville, decimating his value. Good.
- Acquired Steve Smith. Why.
- In the process gave up the 5th I needed to keep Bell.
Basically it makes the Herschel Walker trade look sensible. Can't believe I still made the final.
It's in everybody's best interests to say no to this as potentially any of us could get a chance to draft Bell?
But a 1/12 chance at getting Bell is surely worth less than a juicy juicy 6th?
Just realised that brusma has screwed me with his new rule here.
You can't keep first round players? I think this is a bit daft, to be honest, it'll mess up most people's teams and it'll make trading in-season very hard. You'll have to check you're not getting a first rounder that you can't keep. Also, I have Jamaal Charles and I like him.
I agree that a round should be knocked off generally though.
Commissioner brusma, I beg you to reconsider.
It will just complicate things more than anything. And I don't have my 1st round pick from last year so this opinion is devoid of undue influence.
It would actually be better for me. I would get one of Rodgers, Lynch, Charles or Peterson, plus my keepers. But I still think you should be able to keep 1st rounders as first rounders.
the first reason - the way i see it, players have to move up in rounds from year to year, otherwise the advantage you get from drafting/waivering well one year could last far far too long, and skew the league, risk making it a bit uncompetitive.
the other thing is, it might give the people who were worst last year even more of a prized pick, making it a bit more like the real NFL in that respect. it's going to be a snake draft, of course, with the person last last year drafting first
so, what do you do with first rounders? if there's no change to them, then in theory you can keep second and third rounders at no cost. i'm not overly keen on that, but i'm happy to take thoughts
there are other ideas i've seen out there, like "you can only keep a player for X seasons" - 3 or 4, maybe?
i'm happy to take thoughts on whether the move up a round rule thus suspended for first rounders - i appreciate it's a bit of a big change.
you can keep first rounders, but only if you didn't keep them last year?
so, if i hadn't kept Marshawn Lynch last year, i could keep him this year as a first rounder
and if i do that, i can't keep a second rounder who would move up to being a first rounder.
scenario below assumes i didn't keep Marshawn Lynch last year, but i'm keeping him this year /for the first time/ as my first round pick:
- if i kept Demaryius Thomas for a second rounder last year, i can't keep him this year as it would rise to being a first rounder, and i've already used that on Marshawn Lynch.
- if i didn't keep Demaryius Thomas last year, but I'm keeping him /for the first time/ this year having picked him in the 2nd round, i can keep him. as it's the first time he's being kept, he's the value of the round he was picked in. so he'd be a second rounder.
players only start rising in round value after you've already kept them once? so you can usually get at least two years out of anyone you pick
i think last year the rule was that if someone was picked in a round, then dropped and you snag them on waivers, their value is still the round they were picked in
i like that rule, we'll stick with it
People keep who they draft at the round they drafted them in. The draft is a fucking crapshoot anyway, so people should be rewarded for smart in season pickups.
If you want to get fancy we do a proper dynasty league.
I just think it's really idiotic.
I'd have thought that was the whole point of a keeper league. You draft for today and into the future.
If you don't get to actually keep first rounders you'd want to try draft one season wonders/old fogies there and try to get the better players in later rounds where there is more value to them. I guess it becomes a game of chicken as some will wait to get players on longer contracts as it were.
RBs have incredibly variable careers, and they're the guys who go in the first round and will be kept as keepers. That's enough risk.
Like I said if we want to get all fruity and Brusma wants to start meddling then just set up a proper dynasty league.
1. A.J. Green
WR - CIN TO The Johnny Sacks
RB - PHI TOBryant McKantgetskinnie
RB - DET TO LeCheech and LeChong
RB - BUF TO Brave New Worilds
QB - GB TO Jimmys Wang Yang
RB - SEA TO My Son Is Also Named Bortles
WR - DET TO Unnecessary Roughness
RB - KC TO Knights of Wine and Roses
RB - SD TO The Inflatable Drinking Swans
RB - TB TO Ferndale Ferrets II
RB - MIN TO The Flying Cordarrellefish
QB - NO TO Battlefield Canaries
if someone would be a 5th rounder, say, but you traded away your 5th rounder, that player would cost you a 4th rounder. them's the breaks.
So I could just give up a 3rd for Bell?
I will do this unless someone makes me an offer for a 5th rounder. Just think what you could do with those two 6ths...
so what would've cost a 5th rounder costs a 3rd. yep, that sounds good
I'm starting a coup.
I trusted you brusma...
owners should lose a round for each year a player is kept e.g. I kept Lynch as a 1st rounder last year, this year he's a second etc. That rewards long term strategizing which surely is the point of a keeper league?
And that means the draft will be on Tuesday 1 September at 8pm. Apologies to parisiangoldfish, but you could only attend one of the days so the odds were always against you.
All we need now is wilykit and severed799 to turn up.
this is the final set, because if i keep changing them it'll get too complicated, but i HAVE LISTENED. so here we go:
- keep whoever you want. no restrictions on first, second rounders, whatever.
- players still gain a round every year from the second year they're kept. as much as i like the idea of Andrew Luck being worth a tenth rounder in his peak in five years time, it's not very fair that way and encourages way overdrafting and stockpiling of young players.
- if say, you end up wanting to keep three players with first round value, you can still keep them, and they'll cost your first, second and third round picks
- a player's value is kept even if he went onto waivers and was picked up by someone else last year. if he was drafted in the third last year, he's a third this year.
therefore, i think the only change from last year to this is players gaining a round every year from the second in which they're kept. i put this in to reflect the fact rookies/2nd year players almost always start in later rounds, then rapidly (several rounds per year), shoot up if they're good. this way, they'll still represent better value than you'd get from drafting, but it won't be so ridiculously over the top as if Odell Beckham were to represent a fifteenth rounder for the next ten years.
if enough people don't like this rule, i'm happy to hand the reins back to lospolloshermanos. it just seems like such a common sense rule to me. there's still benefit for drafting young players and keeping them for rounds much later than their ADP, it's just not disproportionately rewarded
Sorry I'm late 100% okay for that time and date. Send me some deets fellas.
Just yourself, severed and tea_segall (I think) to register in the league and we're all set.
Please set your keepers today! I'll sort the draft board tomorrow and try put up a link to it so everyone can check they've got the right picks and right keepers
And tea_segall, accept the invitation and join the league, please!
I'm not confident about this season, my keepers are shite.
I've also renamed my team after a niche Vikings player who might not make the 53. #YOLO
Don't card really
didyousayhand never turned up to run Div 1. I took it over.
I had to set it up from scratch so I needed everyone's email address.
I sent an invite to what I thought was your email address. If it isn't, let me know by PM and I'll send it again.
Or if you don't want to play just say, I'll find someone else.
Don't really have the time but happy to fill the numbers if needed
If not I'll let it autodraft, someone can take over later. It'll probably win.
Draft Order: http://imgur.com/N4oH8ll,4Z56RfB
if anything looks wrong, let me know and i'll see what i can do
so that should cost me my 14th rounder?
genuinely didn't think he was drafted, cheers knights of wine and roses :)
i didn't even think anyone had HEARD of CJ Anderson last year
he looked head and shoulders better than Hillman and Ball. Obviously by the time he came good I'd given up on him...
I'm doing the keeper draft from my phone but it automatically sets it to autopick even though I was watching it. I didn't want brees or Mccoy
getting someone the Seahawks D and Gostkowski in round 5
QB: Matt Ryan, Jameis Winston
RB: Carlos Hyde, Jonathan Stewart, Darren Sproles, Tevin Coleman, Jay Ajayi
WR: Julio Jones, Julian Edelman, TY Hilton, Cecil Shorts, Davante Adams, Kenny Stills,
TE: Zac Ertz
Quite happy with that, although the RBs look a bit threadbare. Looking forward to the NFL.com thing telling me they'll go 3-11.
QBs: Drew Brees, Phil Rivers
RBs: Shady McCoy, CJ Spiller, Latavius Murray, Devonta Freeman, Danny Woodhead, Rashad Jennings
WRs: Antonio Brown, Andre Johnson, Roddy White, Pierre Garcon
TE: Coby Fleener
Really unhappy with that; I wouldn't have touched McCoy or Brees if it hadn't been on autopick and I made a mess of the ratio of RBs/WRs/TE
QB: Newton, Kaepernick
RB: Charles, Gurley, Yeldon, Blount
WR: Bryant, Wallace, Boldin, Bowe, Johnson, Perriman, Janis
TE: Gronk, Clay
K, DEF: TBA
All over the place really. Risks up and down the team. If the rookie RBs fire, Cam runs for a load of TDs, and 2 of my dubious WRs fire I might be OK. I am not confident of this happening.
QB: Romo, Mariota
RB: Anderson, Forsett, Gordon, Abdullah, Sankey
WR: Green, Sanders, Tate, Wheaton, Kendall Wright
Pretty happy overall, some good depth across the board. Looks like I'm all in on Tennessee's O this year
Inflatable Drinking Swans have a chip on their shoulder.
QB: Luck, Foles
RB: Lynch, Bernard, Williams
WR: Thomas, Landry, Agholor, Parker, Quick, White
TE: Walker, Ebron
K: Blair Walsh Project
got some good players. weak at RB, but it's a keeper draft - that's what happens. got a few players that can be realistic waiver fodder early without too much regret so at least i don't need to hesitate in that. need a couple of those WRs/Ebron to have good years though, so i've got some kind of keeper options next year
3-11 season though, so there's that
RB: Lev Bell, Joe Randle, Lamar Miller, Duke Johnson, David Johnson
WR: Jordan Matthews, John Brown, Charles Johnson, Larry Fitz, Eddie Royal
TE: Julius Thomas
K: Dallas fella
Went all in on potential. I also got loads of Cards players despite their cruddy O-line. Also, all the Johnsons.
now that severed has departed. Preferably a disser, but anyone will do really.
And if not, why not?
and another three either give up or not turn up. See further up for why we didn't just promote three more.
If not, it's yours. And maybe even if you do, I'll get back to you.
but that draft isn't until Sunday so at least that would give us time to find someone for D2, and the D1 draft is tonight. Plus I think the spot should go to an ex-division 1 member rather than an entirely new owner
so it's just as likely i'll be scratching around just the same as a Div 1 owner would be
if it has to be someone leaving Division 2, then i'd say it should be either last year's 4th place finish, or 5th (as they at least won a playoff, albeit the one people don't care about)
but i'd rather not as i don't think i can fill a spare slot in Division 2 at all.
There are people who post about the sport but aren't in either league right? Catstro?
I'll just let it autodraft, hopefully someone will turn up mid season. Sorry lospollos, agreed it ought to be someone with history in the league but there's no easy way to pick someone now.
What would have been better would have been for all this to be sorted out weeks ago, but that was out of our hands due to didyousayhand going AWOL. Anyway, it's only one team (which will now probably win the league).
I'm going to harass him until he is.
Fidel tells me he is IN (either for Div II I guess if los is bumped up or straight into Div I). I reckon bump up los if he's former Div I, and also, the idea of fidel in a league run by brusma is just too good to miss.
lospolloshermanos, you're free to try and not get relegated from Div 1 again
PM me your email address fidel, and I'll get you invited. Draft is at 8 tonight.
I'll be autodrafting then. probably for the best tbh...
and lospollo was going in DivI?
OK, brusma can invite fidel to div 2, lospollos send me your email address and turn up 8pm sharp.
brusma do I need to leave Division 2 or will you remove me yourself?
My draft was pretty ugly.
QB: Roethlisberger, Brady
RB: Forte, Ellington, Tre Mason, Arian Foster, Jeremy Langford
WR: Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks, Amari Cooper, Phillip Dorsett, Cody Latimer
TE: Olsen, Eifert
Good for 11-3 and 2nd place apparently! Lacking depth at RB and need a reliable veteran at receiver.
I much prefer the look of this when Foster can play but am going to need a few streaky wins before then to be competitive.
Great potential with those WRs.
I'm hoping that Amari Cooper and Mike Evans become franchise type players - that'll give me a few years to snag some decent running backs.
I really don't fancy Ellington but the value of his keeper draft pick was too good to turn down. I hate it when FF makes you bet against yourself like that!
Megapumped. Did a dynasty league draft earlier in the summer so looking forward to something more straightforward
We have a full set of 12 in Div 1, with fully 6 hours left.
For any sad acts not involved who want to follow the draft proceedings, this is the league url:
Would appreciate a similar link for the additional sad acts (me) who'd like to follow the Div 2 draft.
Division 2: http://dis2.league.fantasy.nfl.com
I would swap with you in a second.
But I kinda prefer to stick with the pick I've been given, the stats on where people have won which pick from are remarkably equal.
fwiw, I'm at 10, to go with 11 in my other league, and 10 I got previously to that. Oh for a single digit pick.
Feels like having two 1st rounders.
10th means I get two top 15 players which is great. I just think this year there are 4-5 potential premium RBs, so 5 gets you one of them, and very likely to get a top draw WR on the swing around as well.
and flailing around for any RB you've even heard of after about round 2, the div 1 draft is so much more refined.
*Starts preparing for life in Div 2*
6.9%! Law of averages says I'd make it 33.3% of the time, I really must be some kind of dick.
...which is good enough for 4th.
Also enjoyed it claiming I went for an early run on Running Backs, despite opening up with Julio Jones and ODB
Picking at #7 is definitely the worst spot to be in.
The whole thing is so stupid. "You drafted 3 WRs with your first 5 picks. Here are some WRs to target in trades."
A little later than 5pm probably suits me too if that's possible.
I did a mock draft last night to see how the system works. Kinda dull doing a mock - incredible that some people do hundreds of the buggers.
I've literally talked myself out of every potential player. I might as well autodraft at this stage. Considering how much of my success (or lack of it) last year came during the season when I dumped some of the shit busts I drafted, it's silly how much emphasis goes on the draft anyway.
takes seconds rather than minutes.
Until how you see how the comparative players perform against expectations it all remains entirely academic.
Helps to know where the bargains are.
The mock drafts against people are a bit of a bust imo, as you have no idea who you're drafting against, what their standard is, and how bothered they are. Whereas that autodraft thing was pretty good at showing you rough value whilst still being a bit of a lottery.
But yeah, draft is overrated, unless you have a disaster. As long as you can get at least 1 big performer, a couple of solid players, and a decent QB, I think you'll be close enough to be competitive. So much of it is random week to week with the scoring and injuries that it's not worth getting too het up about.
Though it's nice to draft yourself to grab players you just like to support or little possible bargains late on.
I really don't mind reaching once I get to round 4 tbh, as long as I have some solid picks in already. Hate seeing players I want go off the board because I was trying to be too cute with ADPs and so on, so I fully appreciate this diminishes the chance of getting higher value
not 'so I fully'
You can replace your entire drafted roster with 'free agents' that no one else wants during the season and build a roster that is as good as any other in your league.
options further down the line (always AJ Green. Always.)
QB: Tony Romo, Philip Rivers
RB: Le'Veon Bell, Justin Forsett, David Cobb, Latavius Murray
WR: Brandin Cooks, Jeremy Maclin, Mohamed Sanu, Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Coleman*, Brandon LaFell
TE: Jason Witten
K: Mason Crosby
DEF: Philadelphia Eagles
*snagged off waivers after I originally drafted the now cut Nick Toon.
NFL.com gave me a C and predicted that I would finish 5-9 to tie for 8th place, which seems pretty harsh. I'll have to wait and see whether there's any real depth at WR or whether I just have a surfeit of mild disappointments.
QBs: Andrew Luck, Derek Carr
RBs: Lamar Miller, Bishop Sankey, Joseph Randle, Isaiah Crowell, Charles Sims
WRs: Demaryius Thomas, Sammy Watkins, Michael Floyd, Roddy White, Breshad Perriman
TE: Greg Olsen
K: Dan Carpenter
Happy enough with everything but the RBs. I really need Joseph Randle to stay the starting back in Dallas else it all falls to bits.
QBs: Stafford, Newton
RBs: Hill, Anderson, Gordon, Woodhead, Bush
WRs: Matthews, Tate, Torrey Smith, Funchess, Colston
Pretty happy overall, RBs should be solid. Missing a true number 1 receiver, but that's what happens when you prioritise RBs.
5-9 per the recap, but then my mate Dave, manager of Kung Suh Panda, got an A+ and is going 13-1 apparently, so what do they know?
He was left crying into his hanky.
He appeared in some pain,
And couldn't explain,
Quite why he'd picked Bishop Sankey.
Not enough fantasy draft related limericks going round I find.
All the best RBs are gone by then so QB seemed like the better option than WR. I went with Luck because I had him last year and I'm stupidly loyal to fantasy players who've done me well in the past.
but after a season of hatefully switching between Eli and Flacco, I'm really tempted to go for a QB super early in one of my leagues, just to see.
and you go with Luck or Rodgers (maybe Roethlisberger). Beyond those guys the QBs are more or less at the same level and you'd be better taking one of the top WRs instead.
So I guess I'll have one of Lacy, Lynch, Peterson, Charles or Bell to go at... except I don't want Lacy or Peterson because I'll have a cognitive dissonance rooting for them.
If you want him.
QBs Sam Bradford - PHI, Eli Manning - NYG
RBs Jonathan Stewart - CAR, Chris Ivory - NYJ, Arian Foster - HOU, Ronnie Hillman - DEN, C.J. Spiller - NO
WRs Julio Jones - ATL, Odell Beckham - NYG, Eddie Royal - CHI, Brian Quick - STL
TEs Delanie Walker - TEN, Tyler Eifert - CIN
K Brandon McManus - DEN
DST Miami Dolphins
Similar to Smyth2, happy with that outside of the RBs, but that could come good. Don't really like combo-ing Eli and ODB. Lots of injury prone players, hoping they overlap enough for me to get decent line ups most weeks.
Reached a couple of times for players I like, but overall seemed to come in under the rankings lists I was looking at, but I think that's true of most people, oddly enough.
He's on my bench.
I've just had to put Delanie Walker in my first time because of yet another pre-season injury.
(Less concerned from a fantasy perspective than from a Bears fan perspective)
Last report I saw of him was day-to-day, and not too concerned
He wasn't in practice because of a hip issue. I've put him on the bench for now. You're right though he is still considered a 'day to day'.
QBs - Ryan Tannehill, Carson Palmer
RBs - Eddie Lacy, Mark Ingram, Daz McFadden, Duke Johnson, Matt Jones, Andre Williams
WRs - DeAndre Hopkins, Andre Johnson, DeSean Jackson, Brandon Marshall
TE - Kyle Rudolph
K - Dallas fella
Def - Bengals (dropped already)
Feel pretty good about this. I think the only reach was Duke Johnson. With the rest I felt like I was getting value. Could be a bit thin at RB if the younguns don't pan out.
Any time I got close to any of my 'clever' picks Cobb, Bradford, Foster,l Funchess, Abdullah etc..... they went. Really frustrating.
Got caught with my pants round my ankles by the run on running backs as well. I've done a few bits in free agency so far currently I'm at
QB - Manning P, Dalton A
RB - Charles J, Jennings R, Artis- Payne C, Bell J
WR - Cobb R, Cooper A, Jackson V, Wallace M, Johnson S, Wheaton M
K - Scobee J
DEF - Rams
Predicted 5-9, which I suspect is fair.
Although I was surprised by the amount of handcuffs left on the board. I'd be so much more pleased with my squad had Gore dropped one more pick to me, and I had him instead of Stewart, but them's the breaks.
Is the Div 2 draft now 7pm on Sunday?
Qbs: Teddy Bridgewater Marcus Mariota
RBs: Gore, Abdullah, Blount, Coleman
We: Antonio Brown, Megatron, John Brown, Devante Parker
TEs Tony Gates, Fleener, Vernon Davis
not got a clue what i'm doing but whatevs!
I think I am going to stockpile all the best Kickers and then use this to my advantage to negotiate favourable trades to fill out other positions.
but I don't know what it is
Person who gets most correct earns the resentment of all other entrants.
I seem to be picking mostly away teams this week which is weird.
QB - Cam Newton, Carson Palmer
RB - D Murray, L Miller, D Freeman, R Helu
WR - A Johnson, K Allen, D Baldwin, D Funchess, V Cruz
TE - D Walker, H Miller
K - S Gostkowski
DEF - Pats
how do you find the draft grade?
QBs: Romo, Mariota
RBs: Peterson, Latavius Murray, Crowell
WRs: Beckham, Hilton, Allen Robinson, Kendall Wright, DeVante Parker, Perriman, Latimer
pretty chuffed with that. Draft Recap gave me an A, a projected 8-6 finish and 3rd overall.
i am open to trade offers...
QBs: Brees, Bradford
RBs: Lynch, Ingram, Bush, Sproles
WRs: Edelman, Sammy Watkins, John Brown, Sanu
TEs: Martellus Bennett, Charles Clay, Jared Cook
C+, 7-7, 6th overall
QB: Rodgers, Carr
RB: McCoy, Morris, Martin, Cobb, Johnson
WR: Maclin, Tate, Smith, Jones
Def: Bills, Ravens
B- 6-8 record
McCoy, Morris, Maclin, Tate and Smith are all available for trade. I'm looking for a blockbuster trade to sort out some bye issues.
QB: Rivers, Eli Manning
WR: Thomas, Hopkins, Crabtree, LaFell (whoops!)
RB: Randle, Hyde, McFadden, Williams
TE: Gronk, Ladarius Green
Grade: A, 8-6 record, finish 3rd
*looks around, grins knowingly*
LAFELL OVER WITH THAT PICK, EH EH EH EH
I think it was the point I realised I had to pick more than five players
QB: Brady, Cutler
RB: J Stewart, TJ Yeldon, J Bell, R Jennings
WR: Megatron, J Jones, Amari Cooper, Stills, Brandon Coleman
TE: Eifert, Seferian-Jenkins
Grade B - projected 6-8 record
Felt like I got a bit left out of the top RB game down at 12, so I just went big on 3 of my favourite WR options instead. Long old wait between picks, and saw lots of planned options disappear in between, but could have been a lot worse.
My limited knowledge failed me past the first 20 WRs or so so was scrambling around. Also had bye concerns.
you can't start a TE in the flex spot, so you've got 3 TEs competing for one spot
"TE's for sale, anyone want a TE?!"
You can pick up a decent WR via waivers (or as a free agent)
he means Jared Cook
QB: Big Ben
RB: LeVeon Bell, Ameer Abdullah, Ryan Matthews, Tre Mason, Shane Vereen
WR: AJ Green, Mike Evans, Brandon Marshall, Anquan Boldin, Philip Dorsett
TE: Jordan Cameron, Antonio Gates
K: Dan Carpenter
Grade A, projected 8 - 6, 3rd place.
Feel like there's a lot of potential but bit worried about the RBs until Bell returns. Quite pleased to pick up Gates late on.
am I doing fantasy right
then dropped him after a couple of underwhelming weeks, when he was promptly picked up (I think by brusma?) and went on to score six touchdowns a game, while I struggled on with Eli and Jo Flacco, picking whichever one sucked most each week. So expect to see the same thing this year.
QB: Wilson, Bradford
RB: Murray, Crowell, Mathews, McFadden, Gray
WR: Jeffery, Maclin, Robinson, Green-Beckham, Strong
B, 7-7, Top 5
Bit weak at RB and wish I hadn't taken Russell Wilson when I did
And NFL.com think it was bad.
2-12, C- bad.
QBs Luck, Bridgewater
RBs Gore, Ivory, Gurley & Woodhead
WRs A Brown, Landry, Agholor, Green-Beckham
TEs Witten, Ebron
DEF Chiefs & Packers
I went for upside in Ebron, DGB & Gurley, but my RBs are the problem. I was seduced by Luck in the second when in most drafts I've been happy to wait on Big Ben and was screwed from there on.
In the other draft I did yesterday I waited until rd9 to even look at QB and got Evil Tony Romo. Managed to pick up Jamaal Charles & Alf Morris and Demarius & AJ Green in the first 4 rounds.
Where I'm predicted 12-2. A+!
QBs Peyton, Bridgewater
RBs Gore, Ivory, Martin, Blue
WRs Megatron, Odell, Decker, Baldwin
TEs Witten, Heath Miller
DEF Chiefs, Eagles
Quite a lot of cross over. I obviously see value in some places where others don't!
RB: CJ Anderson, Forsett, Foster, T Coleman, Hillman, Gray
WR: Bryant, J Mathews, Fitzgerald, VJax, Charles Johnson
A+, 13-1, 1st
Pretty satisfied with every position. It's bound to all go wrong.
QB: Tannehill, Stafford
RB: Lacey, Gordon, D Johnson, K Davis
WR: Jefferey, R White, Bryant, Bowe, Decker
TE: Graham, Ertz
A, 10-4, 2nd
nfl.com tells me I have the strongest roster of RBs in the league. My draft position meant that I had no chance of getting one of the star WRs.
We did ours a few weeks before you and I've lost 4 players in pre-season.
and I don't even support the pats.
why do you arseholes do this again?
I would imagine he was drafted pretty early in most leagues so in terms of value you had to sacrifice getting another top RB or WR in order to get Gronk.
Someone with Jimmy Graham in his team.
By having Gronk you essentially have another number 1 WR on your team rather than a TE. He's so much better (and has a bigger role in his offense) than any of the other TEs available that it's a significant advantage over your opposition at that position. The difference between the RB1s/WR1s and the RB2s/WR2s is nowhere near as pronounced as the difference between Gronk and all other TEs.
They could have conceivably got DeMarco Murray in the 2nd, in which case $$$.
Kelly could end up trolling fantasy owners with his RBs the same Belichick does.
Two injury prone backs, both really quite good, so you don't mind rolling with Mathews, keeping them both fresh will make them more productive and less likely to get injured. Then there's Sproles as well! No idea how their salary cap allows for it all
Graham has a big ceiling, but could end up with half the production you used to expect of him at the saints. If you have Gronk, you have around a WR1 (I think he's a bit more volatile week to week though), and you can hoover up various WR2/3s who will be so much more productive than the majority of the other TEs. Plus you're way more likely to pick up (or have one of your bench prospects become) an RB2 or WR2 later in the season than a noticeable TE. I don't think I'd take him ahead of the consensus top 5 RBs or Brown, but I'd probably have taken him at 7 (dropped to me at 11 in my other league), definitely at 9 in a 12man (cos you'd get a WR or RB1 on the wrap around)
The Graham comment was tongue in cheek to indicate that I was hoping Gronk wouldn't be a ticket to success. I do think that Graham's production could pickup at the Seahawks as he had a slight downturn with the Saints last year.
The difference between RB1s/WR1s and RB2s/WR2s actually is that pronounced however, if you get someone like Graham, Olsen or Kelce at TE. Gronk is worth an early pick - it just isn't quite the slamdunk you suggest.
in rounds 2-3, but I think that's relatively easily done. Obviously, I haven't put my money where my mouth is because I could have had Gronk at 1-4 in the DiS Div I draft. Can't quit those top RBs though, and I do think Lacy will have a monster year.
I liked him over Bell and Peterson for this year. Looking at your team(s) we both have Duke Johnson as well - I'm optimistic that he will emerge as the leading RB in Cleveland.
I was DELIGHTED that my oppo has both big ben and Antonio Brown, so that last second TD gave him something like 11.5 points *sigh*. It'd be just my luck to get a 3TD gronk and still lose.
Welcome back, fantasy! It's been a while.
Gronk, Charles and some other guys, filler basically. I'll need both to go ballistic all season long to do anything. So far so good!
Resounding shock win against the pundits' title favourites even with another 60 points left on the bench.
I'll be awaiting your trade offers for either of The New Gronkowskis (Seferian-Jenkins, Eifert) any moment now. Elite RB still sought.
Parisiengoldfish's autodraft monsters outscore any other team in the top flight
And all 4 won this week. I'm quite tempted to just call it for the season right there, never going to top that.
I've tried to add guys who were definitely not on other teams and it's still made me wait? Also I'm now afraid I've generated tons of garbage waivers, is there an easy way to check?
My waiver ranking of 1 has now been dropped to 11 based on league position even though I'd requested it before the games were done. All quite mysterious and annoying.
Fair enough really, rationale is that you don't really need it as much as the guy who finished 12th - which to be fair may be because one of his best players got hurt early in a game (kinda like Ellington this week). Waiver order only lasts until Sunday afternoon, before the games, then you can pick up free agents (as noted below), but if you have to wait for waiver wire players, because someone dropped them recently, then you'll have to wait until the morning indicated (depends on league), if it's after the monday games, the waiver wire will have been updated.
Also if you use your waiver wire, you drop down to bottom of waiver wire (and gradually get bumped up by people using the waiver wire after you). So sometimes it's not worth throwing out a waiver for the sake of it, can be worth waiting for either a better player/injury update, or for the player you were targeting to hit free agency (bit of a risk, just depends how much you reckon people will want that player!)
That's a lot clearer than the official Help section guidance which I found yesterday after about 20 mins of lookng for it.
the help sections are so indecipherable on the main websites. I asked a whole bunch of questions first few weeks last year to a couple of people in my league, was really appreciated, really helped figure it out.
My remaining question with waivers - if someone else pulls rank and nabs a player you were after, is there any kind of notification before the deadline or is it best to line up some alternatives just in case?
So in my example below, play-owner B wouldn't know if he was going to get James Jones, hence why he puts Brian Quick in twice, best to line up alternatives to ensure you get someone. Unclaimed waiver players go straight to free agent, so can be instantly picked up, and players being dropped by teams go to a one day waiver wire, with the same process as before.
It happened a few times that I'd have a complicated list of waivers, where I'm first of all trying to swap out one particular guy. So like:
1 - Dean for Gary
2 - Dean for Paul
3 - Joe for Paul
4 - Dean for Vince
5 - Joe for Vince
6 - Ricki Otto for Vince
Where I'm basically saying I want to get rid of Dean the most, and I want to recruit Gary the most. I also want to recruit certain players more than I want to get rid of certain players (which isn't always the case).
That's exactly what I was trying to work out. Desparate to sign Ricki Otto or Deviant Freeman before the next round.
And just to confirm, when it's your 'go', it'll keep trying each waiver in the order you set, until it reaches a request with both players available. Then it'll do that waiver, and move on to the next owner's waivers etc. Only when it loops back round to you will it resume your requests, from where it got to.
It's not a huge deal to lose position though, I just wouldn't waste it on a frivolous add
there's a list of your waiver claims at the top. You can change the order or delete them from there.
So if I've been convinced I was trying to add free agents I was probably just... Not?
and each player is instead subjected to the waiver process, whereby you put in a claim for a player you like and at the deadline (determined by the league commissioner - it's the same time every week) the team owner with the highest waiver priority (based on ranking; the worst team gets first priority like in the draft) get's that player if they've made a claim.
around 48 hours after they were dropped.
You only get one waiver at a time right? But if it fails, it automatically tries for another one? So:
Player A is 1st in waivers, Player B 2nd, Player C 3rd
Player A - wants to waiver Ellington and get James Jones, no more waivers
Player B - wants to (in order) waiver Brian Quick for James Jones, Brian Quick for Cole Beasley, and Peyton Manning for Mariota
Player C - wants to waiver Deviant Freeman for Mariota
Player A obviously gets Jones, and I assume B gets Beasley but C gets Mariota?
This computer is so aggressive with autocorrecting, still not used to it after years of Windows XP
once an owner (calling them this to distinguish them from players) has a successful waiver claim they move to the back of the waiver priority line, so owner B would only get Mariota if no-one else claimed him.
And Deviant Freeman is his name from now on, cheers.
But I would also say that the waiver date for each player is displayed next to them when browsing the lists. Other than when players are released from a team it will be on the Wednesday after all the games have been finished when they are processed so just make sure you make your claims by each Tuesday.
I wouldn't openly discuss which players you are after on here for obvious reasons.
Forte and Ryan definitely kept me afloat. I've got some serious issues on my bench though. I need to pick up some new players.
Three solid poundings and one (my realitysportsonline multi year dynasty league - basically champ manager for fantasy) which I won by 0,4 pts
Looking for a replacement for Julius Thomas. Or should I keep hold of Thomas?
My bench looks abysmal at the moment so I need to swap out Charles Sims and Reggi Bush.
Whilst probably (possibly?) the better talent Thomas is injured for a bit, in a terrible O
Eifert is a good redzone threat, in a good O, who's already shown he's capable of putting up 20+ pts - obviously won't happen every week, but that's pretty good upside
Also James Jones for Kenny Stills.
I'll be playing the numbers and advice this season. It's fun though, despite my team being cursed for injuries.
Still looking for 2 running backs for my bench to replace Stills and Sims.
Whilst my A+ keeper team lost, since the three guys I kept, Peyton, Megatron & Beckham scored about 15 points between them.
In non-DiS leagues, I lost to my TV in the league I care about and won in a league I didn't really want to enter this year.
Why are people cutting players rather than just waiting for them to switch out as they get other players in?
I think it's one of your fellow rookies living and learning in week 1. You only need to wait for waivers to clear tomorrow morning.
I can think of a crafty reason for doing it, but they may just not know how everything works in the fantasy game.
That is certainly what I've ended up doing as other people in my league have dropped good players.
If so, I guess in theory if you'd really decided you didn't want a player regardless, setting them free might make an opponent marginally less likely to take another player you were interested in?
Probably someone just clicking the wrong button though.
My theory followed similar logic to yours in that it might tempt others into holding off on using their waiver picks until then. I think still learning how the game works is more likely though.
they yeah, it's cos i'm a moron and don't really get it.
this thread has been really useful though.
I don't think it matters that much whether or not you know what you are doing anyway.
I have Tate, T. Williams, Mike Wallace and OBJ at WR. Ellington Ellington'd himself this weekend.
It is very tempting...
Its debatable whether Abdullah will be that productive. Bell still seems more plausible as the Lions RB for goal line situations which would limit TDs for Abdullah. Cobb should be one of your star players over the season so I think the price for getting Abdullah is too high.
Ingram, Spiller, Hillman, Ellington and C. Johnson.
But the dude who owns him knows that and is asking silly money for him.
I'm not so keen on having multiple RBs from the same team, but aside from that Abdullah doesn't seem to improve your RBs as much as losing Cobb would weaken your WRs.
I stand by my belief that Tate for Abdullah would represent a fairer trade. Given that the other person is making the offer I would ask for a better offer.
plus that Lions backfield is a spider's nest of potential
Don't forget to make your Survivor picks!
Just looking forward to seeing how Dean does in the big AFC West game tonight.
Eddy Lacy's injury means that team might be fucked however.
I've had a horror start in keeper but Lev Bell is back so I'm expecting everything to be fine from now on.
managed a healthy win this week despite my RB1-RB2 combining for all of 4.8 points, and my WR2, Mike "Dickhead" Evans, earning a big fat zero ("I'm ready to play coach! Just put me in!"). Turns out Big Ben and the Broncos D can go a long way. Oh, AND I have Lev Bell on my bench ready for action.... So now is the time it falls apart.
Im my non-DiS league, I'm getting slaughtered, a pretty decent bunch of players but literally all sucking at once. Such is fantasy.
Only need four more all season now to match my official projection!
I have a bunch of middling to good running backs (Yeldon, Lewis, Blount, Matt Jones) and I would be interested in swapping one (or two if you like) for some half decent WRs.
All genuine suggestions considered, address to the front office of Knights of Wine and Roses, 1 Gronkowski Way, New Gronk City, Gronklahoma.
I really want Matt Jones though.
1) Hold Me Closer, Kameron Chancellor (realitysportsonline) - Relevant, includes my favourite player and ELTON JOHN.
2) Marky Mark & The Fumbly Butt (espn) - finest ever punning performance from me, but it's starting to date
3) IK Said Knock Me Out (DiS League 1) - topical but not all that great
4) The Inflatable Drinking Swans - Requires advanced J. Manziel studies to fully grasp the humour.
Was quite happy with this, a reference to Detroit safety's comments about God's plan for Jordy Nelson getting injured - I liked the weird theological debates it sparked, and also the name works on another level as Sunday is the day when Quin schools people with his picks.
2. Wapping Dockers (NFL)
Nothing clever about it really, I just live in Wapping and I figure if there were an NFL team here they'd be called the Dockers. It kind of sounds like it should be a Spoonerism too, but it isn't.
also the name has so many levels. It's like an onion
Think I'm struggling to divide attention between two to be honest, though I'll do my best this season - no idea how people manage four or five or however many.
I really like the espn league, it was my first one which helps, but I also really like 0.5 pt PPR.
I think 2 is enough for me. I could be tempted by a third this year, but I think that's mainly because I got picks 10 and 11 in those, so my teams are very similar (both have Julio, Ivory+backup, and Stewart+backup). Enjoyed it last year when I only had one player in both, and he wasn't a cornerstone (like my flex or WR2 or something)
It's getting to that annoying point where I am wishing someone would score to win me one matchup whilst simultaneously wishing he wouldn't so that I don't lose another.
We do need some more trades to go down this year, been very quiet on that front.
B) big old email list with bants and shabs
C) we meet up for breakfast before the October NFL games (ok, three of us did)
D) Trade deadline day madness last year was incredible. One person ended up with 9 new players.
I think it's just I don't come on DiS anymore so much and so I miss out on the fun.
Let's be honest, that song is awesome. And Adam Thielen is everyone's favourite homegrown Vikings special teamer. It just works.
2. Whitley Bay Pigeons
Not that great. The Pigeons was always the name of my Madden franchise and it seemed apt to use it when I started playing fantasy. Since the relocation however, it doesn't really make much sense - this is more of a seagull town. Might have to have a rethink.
My current fave, nicked from some classic Homer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QMmkImPyZ0
2. Chip's Multicultural Clubhouse. As with all topical names, seemed amusing to me at the time but gets less so by the second. Was tempted to go with a considerably less PC version but decided that it was a bit too much and would have been vetoed by nfl.com anyway, and rightly so.
3. Knights of Wine and Roses. Based on Japandroids lyrics, otherwise pointless.
Was originally 'The Funchess Started', then I had a change of heart. Kind of have buyer's regret now, thinking I should've stuck with it.
Forte Shades of Jay (espn)
Apt (as ever). So depressingly apt.
Requires local knowledge of upper islington.
Thought about 'password is taco' though
Not sure what got changed but I have now lost by 0.08 points. #GoodellOut
Hill and Anderson. I am dissatisfied with the results of this so far.
losing games despite scoring 100+ points. if this carries on i might just give myself promotion at the end of the season in a fit of pique
mainly to balance out that in the other league I play in I'm 0 - 3 with some horrendous bad luck.
My other teams are riddled with injuries, unexpected underperformance and opponents having a spectacular week at the wrong time, but my DiS team keeps on plodding on to 3 and 0.
with the second highest total score in the league this year
and this week i'm playing the current highest scorer. fml
make me an offer for Demaryius Thomas. i'm looking for a legitimate RB2 with good keeper value, or an RB3 if the pick trade is right
The Thielens are 1-2, and rightly so. They stink. I need to get trading.
my team seems to have some reasonable strength, but I don't know how to add some quality to it. 0-2 and looking like the Div 2 whipping boys already.
You could be 0-3
Just call me a genius
2-1 in one of them as I left Eli on the bench in favour of Romo last week :(
I suspect part of the problem is not actually knowing who owns which team.
Can we do a single subthread where everyone sticks their username to a team? I'll start...
Div 1 - IK Said Knock Me Out
Keeper - The Inflatable Drinking Swans
My Son Is Also Named Bortles (Keeper)
Keeper Knights of Wine and Roses
Road to the Eurozone (which features several - I think - Dissers) - Glover Quin's Sunday School
Glover Quin: Medicine Woman
is beyond me
Get your Top Gun references in order, son.
Someone give me like three wrs for blount pls
It's a deal if so.
Nice one. Link me up to his banned profile and I'll get the trade sorted.
Keeper - Sean Spence None The Richer
and you racked up like 138 points in keeper this week?
I owe Devonta Freeman big time; I came so close to leaving him on the bench for Danny Woodhead too
but I left him on the bench in another league. Alongside Maclin, Steve Smith and Fitzgerald.
Highway to the Eurozone - Forte Shades of Jay
Div 1 - Burfict Strangers (who contrived to lose this week despite the 60 points AJ Green and Steve Smith scored)
Keeper- Jimmys Wang Yang
I'd hoped to scrape a 1-1 record through the first two weeks and count on him coming back dominant. Losing Tony Romo was a blow but Tyrod Taylor has been a find, and I'm sitting on Drew Brees hoping that he comes back in maybe week 5 and starts to show some form (who was it that dropped Brees? Did you have a decent backup?) I'm very tempted to bin off Philip Rivers, he's been shitsville.
Also I'm still really thin at WR, the Jeremy Maclin experiment has been disappointing and Brandin Cooks has been nothing like the player I expected. Unless he steps up I really don't have a WR1 option.
I have WRs in both keeper and div 1 which I would be willing to trade.
Not sure what kind of slim pickings I'd have to offer up to the block, that is an issue. I'd part with Justin Forsett but I'm aware that isn't as tempting a proposition as it would have been at the start of the season
and we'll see what if we can't do business.
I've already had changes made to other teams, but nothing in the DiS league.
Reply to my extremely generous offer you fuck
What was the offer?! My team are fucking awful why would you want any of them?
cant decided over Bradford or Brees for QB this week.
- threw well last week
- Saints secondary is shite
- another weeks recovery
- better QB
- projected to do better
They are fairly useful prior to the season commencing as a guide for the draft, but once the season starts the weekly projected scores are close to worthless. They seem to still be derived from the preseason expectations and fail to reflect how the season is actually progressing.
The Saints D is weaker against the pass than the Eagles D, but the Eagles D is even better against the rush so the Saints may be forced to throw more often, particularly as they are on the road. You can make a good case for either of them so I would just go with your gut instinct.
good tips, thanks.
Or at least they used to be.
Not even joking.
i'll take trade offers for all my early-round draft picks this year, i want early-ish round picks
I'll take reasonable WR offers for either Drew Brees or Philip Rivers
As I'm currently forced to play Smokin Jay Cutler this week. Unfortunately my WRs are even more of a shambles than my QBs.
It's all about keeper this year, Div 1 is so last year.
Speaking of keeper, anyone want Charles Clay? He's wasted sat on my bench as gronk backup.
But I can't really spare any of my WRs either. I deeply regret thinking Andrew Luck would carry my team this year.
But simply can't lose anyone worth having. Pretty sure the Strangers have been practicing on a minefield this season...
WR or RB. Anything to improve this piece of garbage
I know he's out for a bit, but you know, he still ain't bad. Looking for an RB.
Just 5 left standing after yer man Cutler claims four of us.
Newerwave still leading the way with two lives intact. Good work!
It has not worked out at all.
I'm still probably going to win 3 of my 4 matchups (Starting Stevie Johnson and Karlos Williams in Keeper was too much for even me to overcome)
Check out my bench in Highway to the Eurozone. LOL
I resisted the urge to have an early game dig at you for starting Karlos Williams, glad I didn't now.
And raise you no QB points on the bench, plus I still somehow won.
Matt Ryan let me down, I should have put Flacco in.
Sometimes the urge may seem overpowering, but you must resist.
Should I be swapping him out for another QB? To be honest, he's done a pretty good job on my bench. He seems to be scoring OK.
When you're not looking, he's waggling his arse at you, sticking his tongue out and giving you the finger. When you look over, he'll be standing there doing nothing.
And so it is with Flacco. When you're not playing him, he'll inexplicably run two touchdowns in and rack up loads of yards on your bench. If you put him in, he'll stand there doing nothing.
Flacco getting two rushing TDs inflated his points this week and Ryan had a quiet game. Flacco isn't that bad but he doesn't have much to work with in terms of receivers at the moment, so I wouldn't go with him unless Ryan has a much trickier match-up that week.
That's in both the Keeper League and Div II.
Had a shocker so far. Missed both drafts as I moved house and couldn't get internet and now this. Apologies all, will try and get back on it now.
In both leagues. That must be it.
All offers considered.
Big Ben seems to recovering well and could be back for Week 8. Alex Smith isn't that bad in the meantime.
people like McCown are racking up 30. I know Smith is probably more reliable, but I don't trust him not to wimp right out.
Look for favourable matchups among the free agent QBs, like McCown had with Baltimore this week, as well.
Make me an offer
Who wants one. looking at you Steved.
Say Helu, Wave Goodbye
A starting WR would be nice.
League manager is in Australia.
Kill me now.
When I already have Brees and Matt Ryan.
Just a bad trade really, not completely terrible, but one I REALLY don't want to do. Murder request for comic effect only, please be clear that I will not appreciate it if you turn up on my doorstep with a balaclava and a rusty knife.
if you're going to offer me a trade, there has to be something in it for me. I don't want a trade where I downgrade at two positions out of two.
Maybe you should update your trading block then B-man...
don't need to trade unless someone's got some desperate need and a willingness to trade a top-drawer QB
just in case someone plays fair)
if the trade didn't involve me, but i saw another trade between two teams where one got 2015 Peyton Manning and Josh Hill, and the other got Tyrod Taylor and Adrian Peterson, i'd veto the trade and consider kicking both owners out for cheating
whatever. same still applies.
Still holding out hope!
He's an upgrade on Watkins any day of the week.
you should offer him plus an RB2 for Peterson plus Tyrod Taylor. i might accept
That's me and if I trade away Brady now then I might just lose the warm glow I still have from consciously waiting to pick him up as the 8th QB drafted.
But my Division 1 team is going to need a fucking miracle of a turnaround to rescue this shit show of a season. 5 weeks in and my highest scoring player is Blake Bortles. And I've only had him for 1 week.
Everybody Ertz is officially in re-building mode. Everyone is on the block.
my team is Newton, Peterson, Murray, Beckham, Hilton, Robinson, Kelce, Tucker, Panthers D.
i just shouldn't lose to a guy starting Woodhead, Dwayne Allen, Brian Hoyer and Ted fucking Ginn. it just shouldn't happen. it's factually incorrect. might delete both the DiS leagues in protest
You haven't even lost yet you big cry baby.
-> Edit Team Owners
-> Select "Essex Elite Eels"
-> Remove Owner
I'd rather eradicate my team from history than continue to embarrass myself like this: http://i.imgur.com/qS2Ddsy.jpg
normally even that shower of shite would be enough to challenge my team, a veritable "Who's That?" of the NFL. Unfortunately for you there is no more terrifying player to face in fantasy football than the player you just traded away. See Miller, L.
People are crediting Dan Campbell for turning the Dolphins around but in reality it was me trading away Lamar Miller that did it.
Might just cut Isaiah Crowell on principle. 9 yards on 8 carries is an absolute disgrace. Even Trent Richardson would be disappointed with those numbers.
9 yards is 9 more than Richardson will be getting.
Jordan Matthews just isn't cutting it. Make me an offer, ya turds.
not overly interested in players, want a big big haul of draft picks
What an absolute dumpster fire we've been
(Although bizarrely I'm 7 from 7 on my other picks where I chose different teams to my DiS entries. Not really sure what the end game is there tbh...)
A Josh McCown super game could see everyone eliminated again.
Going big early, not playing it cautious.
I will display the trophy proudly.
I'm definitely in for the second go round of it. Just watch me pick wrong the first week!
i'd be on a W8 streak....
That's got to be a record.
so take your bellyaching
that was cool
that I've won a game by decimal points.
I've had it the other way and it sucks, but today I am happy for it
Todd Gurley for Dez Bryant, instead of Jamaal Charles, will quite possibly haunt me for as long as the DiS keeper league runs.
I'll... I'll cope now... *weeps into towel*.
earlier this season for trading himself into a position of having Bell, Charles and Foster ready to run over the league.
I was ready to give up on this year in the keeper, but then I remembered I got to the final sans Adrian Peterson last year. It can be done*! (If anyone fancies trading me an RB1 let me know)
*This was mainly due to the play of Bell :'(.*
I'm now convinced the Socks have a proper RB curse =(
but yeah, probably.
though we're still topping 100 pretty easily each week ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The entire league to pick from, and 6 out of 20 of us STILL got eliminated (5 going with the falcons, 1 with the Jets). I pick still as yet unresolved, 7 folks haven't picked - there could be just 6 people going through after tonight.
We have this NFL business NAILED.
that given the choice of any team, ANY TEAM AT ALL, I have picked a loser three times from 6. Next time I will just go through them in alphabetical order.
I keep gettinggetting emails
Your WRs are unreal.
Got Hopkins in the 4th round. As usual I'm struggling to stay afloat in the DiS leagues, and absolutely pasting the yanks. 8-0 this one is. Having done this every year for the last 4-5 years I can definitively say that Americans don't know how to play their own game, and DiS is where the competition is.
It seems like one of them has gone through but none of mine have. It's 10am ffs!
Whereas anyone who wasn't is now a free agent. It's a bit weird though.
Wasted a waiver claim on a fill-in WR for this week who is actually on a bye. Good, good.
is sometimes check the player list just before waivers are about to be processed, and what you'll see is...a few players have, say "W (Nov 3)" next to their name, and the rest say FA. the FA are the ones no-one's put in a request for, the W's, people have. so you can see which players people have put in W requests for, though you don't know who the people are
risky game to play though, since waivers are processed at different times each week it seems
Since some other cunt picked up DeAngelo Williams, there is nothing there for the taking, and with me needing a replacement for Bell, I am open to trade offers...
HAd three RBs wiped out this week, so also open to offers. As always, will throw in a banning of my trade partner's choice.
I'd be willing to part with Chris Johnson or Darren McFadden
DM me and let me know who you fancy off the Happy Socks roster...
Bid up on Mike Evans.
Do either of you have a preference between the two RBs? I guess Johnson's bye week doesn't help much, but he's clearly the better long term option.
McFadden the clear lead back in Dallas now though since Randle has been cut.
sale of the centruty, etc.
And crabtree is one of those players I just don't rate.
How about Hurns or Thomas?
I bloody love Hurns but given how fucked we are I'm happy with that trade. Mind if I consult with my co-manager on johnson/mcfadden?
Do I still get the ban thrown in?
HYG, if you don't beat this offer, fidel is coming for your ban button.
interesting choice of target, I like it.
I've sent the request.
HYG's off to the farm.
Feels kinda... nice.
now i just have to forget who the other guy was before a piano lands on McFadden on his next touch
I also lost Bell this week and having failed to grab Williams or Langford off waivers I'm having to start Zac Stacy as RB2.
Also, losing Steve Smith for the season was a kick in both balls, considering I traded Drew Brees away for him like two weeks ago and he scored all of the points this week. I was feeling so fucking smug about that trade as well, seeing as I had three strong QBs on my roster at the time.
Div 1 - Chip's Multicultural Clubhouse. Terrible really, draft was basically a bust top to bottom. Traded and waivered myself to a vaguely half decent squad, but basically doing a Villa and hoping to finish fourth from bottom.
Keeper - Knight of Wine and Roses. Top scoring team so far, but only good for 4-4 as we have most points against too. Grrr. Lost Charles and Allen to IR, and traded away Gurley like an idiot, but still in the hunt, more or less.
Elsewhere: I have two other teams collectively 14-2, but I don't really care about them.
A decent draft but lost Romo early, which had the knock-on effect of neutering Witten. Lucked out with a strong RB group in Bell, Forsett and Latavius Murray but having now lost Bell, what was a decent, potentially competitive team suddenly seems mid-table fodder. No real stand out WR, unless Brandin Cooks has finally got going for good, but again lucked out in picking up the Broncos D who have turned out to be phenomenal. Saved my match up more than once.
Was 2nd, currently 5th (lost a tight game week with a ridiculous fuck up of dropping my 2nd string kicker midway through the game weekend and was soundly beaten this week), expect to drop a couple of places by season's end.
Horrific wasteland at RB, solid at WR despite drafting them 4th and 5th, QBs turned out fine with Rivers and Manning. Stumbled into the Pats when initially stream D, so pretty happy with that.
Admittedly, most of them are not established starters at this point.
I lined up four on the waivers, got two
added ol' christine as a handcuff for McFadden before the trade went through, just in case anyone nicked him for the lulz
then traded for McFadden
But I lost Hyde, McFadden and Reggie Bush more or less all at once, and none of my others were starters. terrible times. Might still boot Hyde yet.
RB was supposed to be my team's strength after the draft, but none of my initial picks have worked out for various reasons. A 12 team fantasy league makes a huge difference from being in a 10 team fantasy league in terms of finding enough regular starters for your roster.
Div 2 - Peckham Spitfires (4-4)
Somehow managed to nab Gurley, so all is looking good. Well, not quite all. Andrew Luck has been benched for Blake Bortles on more than one occasion. Antonio Brown has been sorely missing Ben, but all in all I think I'm set for a push for those play-off spots and as long as I don't finish 1st, I should get promoted!
Keeper - Unnecessary Roughness (3-5)
Forgot to drop Peyton from my keepers pre-draft so he cost me a 4th rounder, but Beckham as a 15th put me in a nice position. Megatron underperforming so far.
3rd in the league in scoring but had second most points against me. I just think it's too far to get back so going to see if I can find any keeper gems ready for next season.
Currently top at 6-2 (albeit a little streakily) but Arian Foster and Matt Forte going down has seriously blunted my running game to the point I'm currently trading for LeSean McCoy who alongside Chris Johnson is going to have to carry me home.
Elsewhere I'm happy with Brady, Roethlisberger at QB, I seem to have picked the wrong one out of Olsen and Eifert at TE every week, my young receiving core of Amari Cooper, Mike Evans and Brandin Cooks are getting better as the season goes on.
Think we'll make the playoffs but won't have enough to win it
Currently 4-4 and 6th. Drafted poorly here and I was 2 RB's short before Jamaal Charles went down. Wasted too many weeks playing Manning ahead of Dalton at QB. Jimmy Graham has been a bust so much so that I'm now trading him for an RB3 and going to trust Ben Watson at TE. Randall Cobb has been a massive disappointment as well. Basically my top 4 picks have all been busts.
How am I 4-4? Dalton, the Rams D and the shrewd pick ups of Chris Johnson and Stefon Diggs.
Will be happy to avoid relegation here.
I expect the Seahawks to iron out their redzone issues and Graham should start to reap some rewards.
He was the only trade bait I had and I only have 1 fit RB tho.
It was a stupid draft pick regardless, he was never going to repeat his New Orleans numbers in Seattle.
But it wasn't a stupid draft pick (unless you took him very early) as Seattle were short of offensive players, leaving little competition for Graham in the passing game. Having to adjust to a new offense, along with Seattle's general struggles this season, has limited his production so far but I would expect things to improve in the longer term.
Plenty of the rest of you left him alone.
Keeper - My Son Is Also Named Bortles
3-5, and lucky to be. tanking hard, have made some atrocious trades, and am desperate to get some picks for next year. my team is an absolute dumpster fire, from Luck at QB, to Kamar Aiken being my WR1. pre-season gamble late picks aren't paying off, Nelson Agholor's already gone, DeVante Parker and Kevin White we'll just have to see. only Eric Ebron looks to have any late round keeper value. if anyone wants to offer a 1st or 2nd rounder for Marshawn Lynch, please offer away. this team will not win another game this season whatever i do
Div 2 - Put A Gronk On It
3-5, but i'm not entirely sure how. in a position of strength everywhere, with three happily startable RBs (Peterson, Murray, Yeldon), three startable WRs (Beckham, Hilton, Robinson), Kelce at TE...i just don't know where it's gone wrong this year.
check yr DMs
Going pretty well despite an ongoing Christine Michael obsession nearly causing me to lose Carson Palmer early doors. Eddie Lacy was my first pick, which hasn't gone well but I'm still backing him to get going. I also picked Andre Johnson in the 4th round. However, picking Hopkins and Marshall, as well as some good FA pickups, has made up for it. My depth at RB is bueno, Duke Johnson was my RB5 before I traded him. Probably slightly fortunate to be 3rd based on points scored but you can only beat what's in front of you.
More Than A Thielen, Keeper, 5-3. 3rd.
Again, slightly fortunate to be in this position taking into account points scored. Weathered the Bell suspension only to have him fuck his knee. The aforementioned obsession caused me to drop Larry Fitzgerald prior to the season. Unbelievable. Still, the depth looks OK here, and certain players who were under-performing early are rounding into form. I'm not hugely confident in this team but they might be good for a play-off run, even without Bell. Shipping out Joe Randle for Demaryious Thomas has proven to be a masterstroke.
Any time there's even the slightest stir from either of us, he gets all excited and starts miaowing frantically, before eventually settling back down and admitting defeat when absolutely nothing happens and we carry on sleeping. This repeats at 15 minute intervals.
What I think I'm saying is, you are a cat and Christine Michael is breakfast.
Also, you should be flat out arrested for the Randle/Thomas trade.
I am so over Christine Michael now btw, he had his chance.
5-3, 4th, but with most points in league. I think that's partially because I don't really have many reliable players, just explosive ones (Julio, ODB, Ivory, Eifert), so I have weeks where I roll in with 80, and then weeks like last week where I got 143. Decent team, would be close to elite if Foster wasn't out for the season, but the majority of people have suffered through injury tbf.
ESPN league (Forte Shades of Jay)
5-3, 2nd. Same story, most points in league, but average W-L. I'd rather lose with big points than scrape a win as long as I'm still in the mix though. Similar team, Julio, Ivory, but with Gronk, Landry and Broncos D (1/2pt PPR).
QBs are a problem for me in both divs. Eli is going well, but he's boom or bust. There's always a problem position, but think I'll try and pick a better QB earlier, like round 6, next year.
this, looking back, is the fifth week you've started a player who is either on a bye, inactive, or on IR. unfortunately that means i'm going to have to give you the boot
THERE IS A VACANCY FOR A NEW MANAGER IN DIVISION 2
Is it even available to people in the UK? Against my better judgement it has started to seem quite appealing.
google "daily fantasy scam" and save yourself
Doesn't stop gambling being occasionally fun for adults who are not idiots.
they're having to declare that daily fantasy is gambling to operate in the UK
having had to declare that it isn't gambling to operate in the US
I can't see how it can possibly not be gambling. Money changes hands? Element of luck and relying on things totally outside of your control? Got to be gambling, shurely?
it's only gambling if you assume the person with the best hand always wins.
(NB Fantasy is definitely gambling, anyone who's ever played it knows what a ridiculous crapshoot the whole thing is).
Poker is skewed more towards skill, and Fantasy is skewed more towards chance.
Matt Forrrtteeeeeeee, NOOOOOOOO.
That is going to ruin my team. Someone has already picked up the second string from the bears in my league as well. :'(
That said, I managed to pull together a passable winning team this week. Tyler Efiet was my savour.
And considering he's pretty much the only Charger's receiving option left, AND they're playing the Bears, who knows!
Bears though - I'm not making any assumptions...
I am about 20 behind already though. I'd happily settle for a 9-0 Bears win though (although my oppo has Bennett. And, weirdly enough, Jimmy Graham. All the tight ends)
Had a 20 odd point lead in my Dis game, his last two players to go... Dez and Eagles D. Goddamnit.
get it right
on the cards for tonight. I have Cutler :(.
So started him in 3 leagues. 0.1 trebled is 0.3. Cheers Ron.
Which they pretty much are at this stage
But let's hope they do release some terrible 90s pop. Ideally whilst one of them has curtains.
pretty happy if he wants to take fully over from Lacy from now on, though...
(why did I bench Sammy Watkins?????)
As #1 takes on #3 and #2 takes on #4.
For my part I'm a bit worried that the Socks have become overinvested in the Pats/Giants game becoming a shootout, and I'm not totally sold in that replacement kicker. Looks like this one could take until Tuesday morning to be decided, which will be great and not at all gruelling or tortuous...
predicted of them post-draft, anything else from here on in is just a bonus... Does that mean the players are playing with a unique sense of freedom that will enable them to perform their best? That's certainly one way of looking at it...
Only needed 4.8 points from my kicker and Malcom Floyd. Naturally both got injured. Have now lost (deep breath) Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Forte, Steve Smith, Vincent Jackson, Malcom Floyd, Ladarius Green and Nick Folk at some stage or another to injury. If it weren't for Drew Brees, Julian Edelman and Gary "Barnburner" Barnidge we'd have sunk without trace.
Bye week for Brees and Barnidge too. Whatever's below bare bones is what I'm down to.
2nd place is 6-4, 11th place is 4-6.
Debut season as well.
but in my infinite genius, I had picked up Kirk "YOU LIKE THAT!" Cousins as my interim replacement. *Kisses fingers*
Of course, I still lost, but that was some comfort.
I'm willing to listen to offers for TE1s Tyler Eifert or Delanie Walker, figure it's time to upgrade at RB or WR rather than have an excellent backup in case of injury.
Scored less than my utterly pathetic 41.98 in Div 1 this week. I lost by nearly 100 points.
It's been a long time coming, this team's been running on fumes since Jamaal Charles got injured.
Was it you who grabbed Winston too? Gutsy, I almost took Stafford but chickened out...
Massive game for the Socks this week, up against Sheeldz' unstoppable juggernaut for some playoff security. I'll be watching Los camp for most of it so that should reduce the stress somewhat...
I'm still enjoying your revolving carousel of RBs - it's got to the point where I am slightly disappointed if I log in and don't see another RB transaction for your team.
I still think it's a ballsy move.
And yeah, I like to keep those guys hungry, u know? Remind em what they're working for.
Apparently he is looking 'hungry' again - I think he knows that he needs to step up if he wants to regain my trust. Hopefully he can retake the lead role from Starks soon.
I hope Division 2 is a nice warm place.
Hang your heads in shame.
I'm on a 5 game losing streak and have lost my starting QB (in week 2), now my 1st and 2nd RBs and the one trade I made resulted in me losing Steve Smith the very same week.
I mean, look at them. Rivers: 5.92. Tavon Austin: 0.10. only Kamar Aiken and Theo Riddick got near 10 points, and I benched the pair of them.
Can the League Manager please take some pity on me and adjust my waiver order? I'm currently 12th and my team is full of useless dicks who I am now completely unable to replace with any of the other useless dicks stinking up the waiver wire. I have thoroughly shit the bed.
The fantasy equivalent of that 9-6 Browns v Ravens horrorshow a couple of years back. Think AJ Green was my only non-injured, non bye week player of starting caliber. Jacob Tamme, Lance Moore and Tony Romo will all be unceremoniously returned to the waivers.
Started Emmanuel Sanders and left Rawls on the bench. gnah
Even after my clever QB streaming tactics. Injuries are hurting all over. It's like the killing fields out there.
SHADOWY LEAGUE FIGURES
the commish has started pulling strings
nothing to do with me. i held off last week because he was playing me, and there were no takers for the spare team, and lo and behold some players were swapped in/out and stuff. so it's being managed sporadically. he'd have been kicked if there were alternatives, ditto Sheffield Seahawks who left a spot completely empty against me, last time i looked.
in a general sense, it's looking unlikely there'll be a meaningful Division 2 next year. we've got a maximum of 10 active managers now, so any more dropouts and it's less than 10, which is...well, it's not ideal is it?
one team on 9-2 (fidel I think) and then four all on 7-4 after this round of matches. Tight.
and sticking with four-point phil
That's the real quiz.
He seems like a bloody delight. Runs a fantasy league with his girlfriend, they write weekly reports and have a trophy made from a plastic oscar a fan gave him with "al mas sexy" engraved on it nailed to a dog bowl. Admitted to making last minute roster changes on set. Seems like a dude.
you can look at the standings by Overall, Breakdown, Coach or True.
The first is the league standings as per the fixture list, the second is ranking (I think) how many you would have won versus everyone in the league in every week, the third is (I think) ranked based on how far off optimal team selection you were each week, and the last is an aggregate of them all.
I knew American sports fans loved their stats, but I didn't realise it was quite that much...
I'll check into this and endorse whichever one makes me look best, obviously
I've got both Walker and Eifert going down a storm, but due to this league's rules, I can't play both TEs. They're both pretty great - Eifert is a touchdown machine, Walker gets 80+ yards a game, and a few touchdowns (to quote 'Jon Gruden' "I love Delanie Walker. When that guy catches the ball he turns into a runner, man. Wow. Walker to a runner. You can't make this stuff up").
Anyway, yeah. Ideally package either up with a QB or RB or my WR3 to upgrade one of those.
That said I didn't know I could put both on in my league so I've done that and pulled Draugn. Now I just need to sort out my WR situation.
But occasionally go to Walker when I think it's a better option (e.g. I did this week, which I think was the right call, even though 2 of Eifert's catches were TDs). I'm in an OK spot now, especially after byes, but sure would have been nice to have been able to play 2 TEs over the last 2-3 weeks.
Playoff situation in Div 1 is starting to coalesce, realistically it's only my team, NFM, who might drop out. One more solid week from each of those top 4 teams would probably seal it (Chip's Multiculturals have a reasonable chance of getting in on points scored though tbf).
Tighter at the other end though, bottom three to go down (assuming Div II carries on), and up to 6th place is just a bad week off dropping in.
Eifert hasn't been consistent the last few weeks though but then it's pretty rare from what I've seen unless you're a QB to be really consistent (I'm new to this though).
Yeah, wish I'd known. I've had Ingram in that slot and Walker would have been better in there after losing Forte *CRY*
one TD away from losing by 0.02 points D=
Don't think it's a situation I can trade my way out of either. It's a solid team, but with a lack of 'league winners'. No-one is going to give up one of them at this point (if you do fancy giving one up then let me know).
Looking for advice re: ESPN fantasy vs NFL.com
One of our American participants in a league I run wants me to move our league over to ESPN.
Sounds like hassle. I have to set everything up all over again. Everyone will need to set up accounts there and it's hard enough getting the three old chaps in the league to log in properly to nfl.com.
Are there any real benefits to ESPN or should I tell him to do one?
but that's probably just because I'm used to the NFl.com one.
Still, tell him to do one anyway.
Really prefer the ESPN setup, especially the mobile app, but i think it's what your used to.
I think they're both terrible for adding waiver requests though, have to start over again each time you add one
This one! Like to think if I had played him, he would have stunk, and I'd rather take the real life win...
over Golden Tate (7 receptions, 50 yards, 1 TD). Starting to think my Div 1 team is just cursed and my relegation is all but guaranteed.
I think last night went pretty well for me - the Ghost Team seemed to pick up very few points given how many players they had on - but they've still got Rawls to play...
My Div 1 team has the second highest total this week, and has lost. It also has close to the most points scored in the league, and I'll be 5-7. What the hell?
I've done you a MASSIVE favour in our league (by me, i mean Sammy Watkins)
although it doesn't matter too much since I'm already in the playoffs. My big Gronk trade has backfired immediately though.
Unless Duke Johnson scores 60+ points tonight, all my fantasy teams have won in the same week for the first time ever. So proud.
You might sneak a winning record by the end of the season that way.
is to rack up close to the highest total score in the division, but end up 8-6 and miss out on the playoffs because of luck. it's because i'm the only competent commish, and NFL players know this and have to act accordingly, while still giving me hope that my superior ability will see me up one day
to get the best possible waiver position before the playoffs?
(despite picking Eli over Rivers yesterday I haven't actually already started this, honest...)
Been down to my last life since Week 5 - never felt so alive.
still got the highest points total with only one person within 35 points of me
i should just give myself the title and promotion right now, shouldn't i?
Every player on your bench outscored the player selected in their place on your team. Promote this man now.
the team that was Jerry's Rice Krispies is now without a manager
if anyone's interested, let me know, if not then i'll burn them to- er, i mean take over and do the minimum til the season ends
Just claimed 2nd place
Div 2 on the otherhand... When I do things for Div 2, my head must go to mush, cos it's so bad.
I'm sure we've done this a million times, sorry...
With the Dragon Dragon icon
I'll chuck you one of my receivers for a halfway decent RB2 option. Tavon Austin, Jeremy Maclin, Kamar Aiken, Michael Crabtree or Brandin Cooks.
THERE ARE NO RUNNING BACKS. I have David Cobb on my roster as my only alternate. An alternate for Theo Riddick, no less. Ah well, I guess I'm stuck with him as an object lesson in why you shouldn't believe fantasy football pundits about The Next Big Thing.
Oh god I'm going to end up trying to get Isiah Crowell, aren't I.
Little fact for you.
I miss it every year.
Considering that Roethlisberger is concussed again and Romo's done for the year I'd prefer not to be starting Brees against Carolina in this week's relegation showdown.
9 teams are 7-6 or 6-7.
worse than the NFC East
Nobody is as bad as the NFC East
Need to beat Everybody Ertz for a .500 season record.
10-3 and loving it in keeper (awaits inevitable playoff collapse.)
That McCoy/ Eifert trade in keeper worked out well for me, hope shady keeps up this form into the playoffs.
But can Put A Gronk On It grab the Essex Elite Eels by the ankle and drag them out of contention? (or at least into a tie break I'm too lazy to work out)
Not a clue what the tie-break procedure is though tbh...
Still top of the True Rankings! True #1!
Then presumably points scored.
I need to beat you by 60 points and hope Put a Gronk on it lose.
it's going to be the second year in a row i've won my last five to go 8-6 and finish fifth
be nice to win the Revenge Bowl against Jerry's Rice Krispies before we do though
Well, I have Charcandrick West to unl... oh, he is losing touches at Kansas. I guess I will go with...oh, I have no fit good options at RB.
(I'm only motivated because I lost last time due to an extremely memorable stupid decision on my own part)
What was your stupid mistake the last time?
turned out to be the first Blount Game of the season and he picked up like 30 points.
I've been scraping by on ugly wins for the last couple weeks, so who knows...
monday-wednesday - all fantasy writers decide "this is a Blount game". Hurrah!
thurs-sunday: fantasy writes need to keep producing column inches - "actually, this is not a blount game after all!" oh no, I shall bench him. horrible decision.
and altered his game plan accordingly during the week.
I've had to play him whatever people have said
I erroneously assumed it was points. In which case, I believe Darlington Steamers can complete their dramatic late push by winning if Kung Suh Panda also loses (Div 1)
that I changed it to points scored, which seems the fairest method, but apparently not. Better not do it now, people have done calculations. Unless it turns out I'm getting relegated due to head to head.
I will change it to points scored for next year though unless people complain.
Top 4 in Div 2 go into the playoffs, winning semi-finalists are up, and winner of the 3rd place playoff goes up. I think that's how we do it anyway.
Traditionally the regular season Champ is the team to miss out on promotion.
but if it looks like we're going to be down to a 10 or fewer person Div 2 next year because of people not taking part, we should discuss it more. especially if we dip below 10 next year. just not enough people wanting to take part because people are leaving DiS but no-one's joining.
but we end up diluting the number of Dissers. We'll have to wait and see I think, Severed799 always used to play so perhaps he'll come back. Maybe just one division with 14 or 16!
Bit shitty for someone to suffer twice for a bad week due to injury or whatever (the initial loss in the W-L record and then the head-to-head record).
Next two weeks for a combined score semi final, then the two weeks after that for a combined score final. I think I'd prefer this next week for semi final, then next two weeks combined for final, then not play in week 17, which seems to be an unfair week to finish on as a bunch of teams let their better players sit out, or they try younger players out etc.
has 6 teams going through to the playoffs, but it's a 14 team league. Top 2 get a bye, while the other 4 go through the play off round
I have only started this year playing in a 10 team and a 12 team league, and it makes for a noticeable difference in the quality of 'available' players each week. That may in part be due to the injury crisis at RB this season though.
Do you prefer the simplicity of the standard nfl.com roster and scoring rules, or would you rather tailor your league setup towards having a more in depth experience?
10 team is fine but isn't as rewarding to me. And I've joined a local 8 man league this year and there's just a never-ending stream of good players available. I have picked up Ivory, Mcfadden, Freeman, Rivers, Fitzgerald and narrowly missed getting Cam, all from waivers.
too many available good players in 10, makes it easier to plan with waivers, trading, etc. with a 12 team some teams are always going to be done over towards the end of the season because they've been poorly managed. not so pronounced with 10
standard rules tend to work well too. we experimented in Div 2 with points for return yards last year and it was kinda pointless. wonder whether more penalties/points for interceptions and fumbles might be interesting, or whether it'll just mean more people draft game manager QBs for the yawns. PPR always looks quite interesting too, fwiw, though it just places a premium on check-down running backs
Defense points could be made more interesting as you suggest. How about Defense scoring points for yards against as well as points conceded? Would it be more interesting to shake the roster composition up? For example, have 2 QBs and let the flex player be any position other than QB.
far too many times this season.
would've made targeting Gronk and Jimmy in early rounds an interesting tactic
2QBs though, i don't like. someone's going to end up starting Matt Cassel and Blaine Gabbert, and i don't hate anyone enough to want that inflicted on them. even you
And I don't think 2QBs would be the way to go, but I'd be open to trying it.
I play 1/2pt PPR in the other league, and I think it's really good - I don't think it impacts RBs all that much tbh, at least not in my experience. It boosts some people like Vereen or Spiller (in theory) from a flex to an RB2, but it just shuffles the big dogs around - like you bump up Bell and Charles a bit - rather than completely redefining who is top tier and who is secondary.
It DOES, however, make go-to slot receivers and TEs way more valuable, basically adding a whole bunch of players into relevance, which I like.
tackles for loss, like an extra 1/4 pt, but not sure if this would make good Ds ridiculously overpowered, or the whole thing inconsistent and unpredictable (due to game flow). I do think it'd be nicer for Ds to get a bit more respect though, rather than just being picked up in the last 3 rounds.
Some people even resort to streaming QBs - should TD passes get 6 points rather than 4 points in order to give QBs more importance as well?
But when a QB goes OFF, it'd make them ridiculous. I think the balance at the moment is decent enough - they tend to be the most valuable players, but not by so much that you can't beat someone if your QB fails and theirs doesn't.
Not so much 2 QBs, or increasing the value of TDs. If people are flexing QBs, it doesn't matter if TDs are worth 4, 6 or 8, you pick the one who you think will get most of them.
Anyway, as commish of Div 1 I will be open to any and all ideas next year, I'll try and get it set up early so we can confer.
You would look to grab one of the best QBs in the earlier rounds rather than waiting until the middle of the draft. The rush (pun intended) to grab RBs at the beginning of the draft just led to disappointment for many people.
I spend a lot more time thinking about my 10 team line-ups though, than a 12 team though. The amount of dung players you end up with in a 12 team means your line-up just kind of picks itself.
This weekend in one team I made a last minute change and started Todd Gurley ahead of Alan Robinson. I kicked myself. Rarely ever have options like that to kick myself over in 12 team.
My injury decimated Div 1 squad was hauled to safety by the marvel that is Gary Barnidge after propping up the division for most of the year.
My keeper team finally succumbed to the mid-table piefight after undeservedly hovering in the playoffs for far too long. Finishing .500 is a huge improvement on last year but feels slightly less special seeing as pretty much everyone did it.
Six 7-7 teams, all but two teams in the 6-8 win range. #parity
Think 7-7 is an OK finish for my lads, they never recovered from losing Le'Veon Bell. The Div I boys are fresh off a pasting from Odell Beckham. Their reward? A playoff rematch! Praying for a tweaked hammy here.
which is bizarre. Hopefully Gronk will carry me to the title and not get a career ending knee injury. Either could realistically happen.
7th place in Div 1, my only remaining interest is in Kung Suh Panda, who's owner I work with. If someone could absolutely batter them that would be much appreciated.
plus our stable of outrageous WRs will batter him into submission
league I've ever seen. Really happy about getting through to the playoffs in 3rd position. Time to concentrate on the playoff run now
Odb vs Josh Norman, Eli vs Panthers D, Stewart a little injured so going to be rested for the Panthers, Julio due a massive game but can't see that happening with Matty Melt's form, Eifert possibly out, Marv Jones relying on a second string QB, Walker vs the NE D.
Basically pinning my hopes on the Jets getting ahead early and getting lots of ground yards from Ivory and a few interceptions from desperation throws by Cassel.
but finished 10th. Mainly because everyone scored so many points against them.
but that's the way the game is designed. It's going to happen to someone each year, although perhaps not as extremely as that.
I was second on that. 89-65 for the season.
But I'm not.
Rode a three win streak to sneak my way into the keeper playoffs with a 7-7 record, I'm ready to go 2010 Seattle on y'all. Or maybe 2007/11 New York Giants.
If it wasn't you it'd be someone else.
Pretty begrudging of your auto draftees smashing div 1 though *tears up spreadsheet, fires imaginary scouting staff*.
Maximum. adapt to survive is the name of the game
Fancy my chances, especially given my 12-2 record.
Had a ridiculous shootout in my first leg of the ESPN league playoffs. NO RBs, NO QUARTER.
to not drop obvious starters that can be picked up by playoff teams, as it seems like it skews things a bit in favour of those with a better waiver priority
but i dunno whether that's necessary. do we want that, especially keepers? it's a useful time of year to pick up players on waivers we might want next year. what do we think? should people eliminated from playoffs try to avoid dropping obvious starters?
so no dropping starters, keepers! this extends to kickers and defenses. backups and starters injured for at least the next two weeks only
I think it only did once, back in the first season, and whoever it was got such a beating that it never happened again.
brusma - as commissioner you can put dropped players straight back in the original team. That's what will be happening in Div 1 if the need arises.
i'll give them all a look when they go through
eliminated teams can still drop players to pick up potential keepers, fyi. but yeah, make sure they're not going to be potentially influencing match outcomes. thanks!
There's always a target surely? Whether that's finishing as high up in your playoff bracket as possible or just not finishing bottom of the league.
they're done for the year now
Weird that they can (or would want to) drop or pick up players at all then
if you don't have to worry about winning games, you can get the players on IR, etc. think of it as a little extra help for the poor performance, given having an early 1st round pick isn't necessarily a huge deal in keeper
but that's my business and not yours
Won the keeper league but the real work starts now!
Can someone post a link to Div 2, I'd like to have a look.
fidel romped to a 12-2 record with a nine game winning streak. however, he's up against the other form team - me - who recorded a five game winning streak to go from 3-6 to 8-6 and pip umlaut_ampersand and spit-fire to the last playoff spot
justanothersheeldz and hip_young_gunslinger both recorded 9-5 records and battle for the other final slot
you might say we were just...
*puts on sunglasses*
Anyone still alive in the game?
the poor prick who replaced Hyde and got injured on the first play
...probably some more I've forgotten?
were Bell, Lynch, Charles, Peterson and Lacey. Two lost to season enders, one injured for most of the season, one benched for being shit and out of condition. Only Peterson really panned out, and he's been useless some weeks.
Maybe I'll go Zero RB next year...
Jordy Nelson before we even started, Jamaal Charles, Keenan Allen, Dion Lewis, and this week Rawls and Blount. Ronnie Hillman is my RB1 heading into the playoffs.
But it's just been that sort of season, everyone has more or less the same story. Rawls wouldn't have had much value to me unless Lynch went down, an injury hurts someone and helps someone else.
hell, at rb1
Gonna be tight I think.
I manage to squeak through in the Div 1 where I benched all the wrong players and then I get beaten in keeper where I put up pretty much the best points total I could feasibly have done because Brandin Cooks had himself a day against Detroit in a meaningless monday night game...
Which is certainly possible
fuck you, fidel
If it's any consolation I'm now just looking mournfully back and forth between the words "Roethlisberger" and "baltimore" over and over
And a fine job he's doing of it so far.
My crack keeper league squad of Cam, Gronk and.... well, just Cam and Gronk really, are going to mash your boys into a chunky paste, not unlike horseradish sauce.
Cam and Gronk must be worth 50 points.
I'm sweating on a few decisions
- Roethlisberger or Brady. Based on matchup, it might be the week to bench Brady or am I'm loyal to the guy that got me here.
- Shady, who has been brilliant these last few weeks looks like he's going to be injured. Haven't got much in reserve at RB (who has?!?!)
- Will Carolina start resting Olsen (who is a little banged up) now they have secured HFA?
- Which defense do I stream instead of the Jets? (who play New England)
Rest assured though - we're coming for you.
says he has torn his MCL, and he is week to week. One or other of those statements must be wrong, so best (worst) of luck with that.
He's not playing is he?
Which means (pending waivers) Fozzy Whitaker is coming for you.
Fozzy Whitaker went for 2 yards on 2 attempts in the last game - Cameron Artis-Payne took over Jonathan Stewart's workload.
My other options are Stephen Jackson or Arian Foster.
Hence the 'pending waivers.'
Cameron Artis-Payne (or possibly Alfred Blue) is coming for you.
The rushing 'attacks' contesting the final tells it's own tale of woe.
I had Jamaal Charles, Todd Gurley and Dion Lewis tearing it up for me for a brief, glorious period of time earlier this season.
here's hoping we get what we all want: Ben Roethlisberger's legs to explode the second he sets a foot on the field.
Looks like the shrapnel took out my kicker?
Didn't really mean this D=
an absolute travesty. Both teams have less than 60, looks like the occasion got to them. It will come down to Reuben Randle vs the Bengals D, which encapsulates the complete futility/brilliance of fantasy quite neatly.
What a week to score by some distance my lowest total of the season.
Teddy Bridgeovertroubledwater - wilykit
Everybody Ertz - Smyth2
Waka Flacco Flame - lospolloshermanos
Happy Socks - fidel
Wapping Dockers - h_y_g
Put a Gronk On It - brusma
And a belated well done to parisiangoldfish, Div 1 champ this year.
OBJ's non-ejection in week 15 basically cost me the title.
So if it's any consolation...
Hit by horrendous amounts of injuries in the last couple of weeks, couldn't really cope along with Ivory reduced in role and ODB out. One small crumb was that ol' parisiangldfish had ODB in the other league, so that was partially to blame for the smoking he got (not bitter)
I had the most total points in both leagues I'm in, and won neither (definitely not bitter).
but I'm winning the DiS picks league. Does it normally carry on into the postseason?
Also worth mentioning (not really) that I'm 18th out of 1773 in the Around the NFL group, ahead of Kevin Patra and his rocking body. I'm 465th overall. And all after forgetting about the thanksgiving games!
Playoff challenge group anyone?
I'll set it up and invite Div 2 & Keeper. (sorry for the duplication those in both)
Anyone else, Group name and password are both 'DiS'
Pick anyone you want. What happens if someone loses and is out, can you bring someone else in - and who?
It is just like the Perfect Challenge game where you pick any players you want each week, which is a great game, but with the exception that the scores are multiplied for players you retain each week. So if you keep the same player all through the playoffs they get double points the second week, then treble points the following week, and quadruple points in the Superbowl.
It essentially turns the game into predict which two teams will get to the Superbowl and fill your selections using players from those two teams. If you fail to predict those two teams correctly you have no chance of winning overall.
I hate the Playoff Challenge so much. It ruins everything that was good about the Perfect Challenge.
I won the DiS picks league last year, and by the postseason stage it was all pretty much over. The good thing in the postseason is that the 'bonus' points for getting so many correct picks each week are no longer on offer so there is no way that you will be caught.
I didn't bother playing that game this season in part due to the fact that there is a high drop out rate of other people in the DiS league.