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On a scale of 1 to 10, how annoyed are you by this:
imagine cornwall will be quite annoyed though
I swear I already knew about this... Maybe I'm getting mixed up with Youngs or some other big brewers.
Don't really care, and you know nobody else does when you see it sold in clear bottles in the refrigerated section in Sainers.
been on the cards since coors bought it. shit beer as well
Solid, tasty session ale. Used to drink gallons of it. Then, something changed and it didn't taste so good. I then found out it got bought by Coors.
Either way, it definitely changed some time around 5 years ago. Shame.
Was in Uni at Exeter between 07-10 and you used to find doombar in pubs. was always tasty, reliable and cheap and I never really noticed it that much outside of the southwest. Now it's everywhere and real gash,
like when a once-edgy band do a shitty MOR record and go multi-platinum.
It seems to be the standard token "real ale" now for the kind of pubs that generally only sell Carling and Worthingtons.
In fact that's probably true of mass produced beer in general because of the requirements of huge production. Speckled Hen and Newcastle Brown are both viewed in a similar way from what I've seen.
Not sure how Guiness has managed to run all its production out of the original location and keep its product so satisfactory, actually. Maybe they could teach other beer manufacturers something?
The issue in pubs is invariably how they're kept, how old they are etc. Lots of things don't travel well (Pedigree is notorious for this) to begin with, then if they're served badly, they'll be shoddy.
Guinness is sort of disguised by the fact its pumped full of nitrogen and served icy cold.
Its ubiquity is a consequence of its robustness.
The landlord of The Fox on Paul Street told me you are able to throw it around without issue. Treat it really badly and it will always taste the same. The other beers on draught (An Otter brewery product and Sussex Best) were far more temperamental and reacted much badly to mishandling.
because it always tasted like vinegar.
but it's not like they're particularly much cheaper than less mainstream ales that do that same thing with a better taste. I'm not sure any of the dislike of Doom Bar shown here is *that* strong. I would imagine all of us would order a pint of Doom Bar (or Door Bar if you prefer) if the other options were Fosters and Carling or whatever.
But Speckled Hen and Newcastle Brown are both viewed as a lesser choice by your average ale drinker.
Looking at ratebeer:
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Kind of meaningless without all the other ones above them, though. If most people would buy another bottle over OSH then my point stands.
Which it isn't.
The fact that OSH is not the best beer in the world is irrelevant.
but I can see why you thought that.
I wasn't comparing the three directly, I was putting them into a group of 'lesser picked' ales.
In my example of " I would imagine all of us would order a pint of Doom Bar (or Door Bar if you prefer) if the other options were Fosters and Carling or whatever", I wasnn't allow for OSH or NBA to be an option.
I'm simply saying that I imagine the negative vibe to the beer in this thread is in comparison to really good ales.
(I'm really quite hungover / possibly still drunk).
I think anyone who actively likes beer and doesn't just drink it out of habit would prefer to have something new/different/local where available.
Probably more to do with the pubs that serve it than the product but there's truth in the old adage about it tasting better in Dublin...
Go to Stoke Newington and have a Guinness in the Auld Shillelagh. Tastes completely different to any Guinness in any other gaff in the capital. Remarkable.
and it's basically the least-friendly (non-twat) pub in the area. Well actually the Defoe may now eclipse it under the newer staff.
It's a bit narrow so annoying to get served when busy but I just duck out the back.
It's also a bit lacking in choice if you don't want to order a Guinness.
absolutely no point going there if you're not going to drink Guinness.
The guys and gals that run the place are top notch people
Also the best pint of Guinness I've had anywhere, including many, many pubs in Dublin.
I always feel oddly uncomfortable there.
Possibly because I only really drink Guinness when there's bugger all ales on in a pub.
First pubs don't have enough gas in the taps which means it isn't thick enough. When you order Guinness in Ireland the taps fucking hiss with the pressure.
Secondly, people don't push forward on the tap to top it once it's settled meaning more gas goes in and the head is too big
it in a package supply deal, so it'll be their standard draft alongside exactly Carling and Worthingtons which are also MC brands.
can't remember the last time I saw Worthingtons in a pub
with John Smiths as the default 'ale'.
And Newcastle Brown Ale isn't brewed in Newcastle, and Fosters isn't made in Australia.
(That's a lie, but St Austell is the big family brewer there).
I love a Proper Job.
thought by many to be brewed in [ENGLAND] it is in fact brewed in [ENGLAND]
interesting (?) ale fact: Burton traditionally had the best water for brewing in the UK, and when breweries treat their water for brewing, it is still referred to as 'Burtonising' the water.
St Pancras station was re-designed in part to make it easier for all of the casks of beer coming down from the Trent on the old Midland Mainline too. In fact I think that under the station the supporting beams are still the same (designed exactly to be 2/3 casks wide for storing thousands of casks beneath the station).
has the best water for ale and brewing. I think that's why thornbridge beer is so good and why I can never quite get on with London craft.
there's something a bit savoury to it. I feel ashamed to admit it because my family is from Burton and various members worked in the breweries, but I don't reaaaalllllly like it all that much (though some Burton beers are amazing, obviously - Burton Bridge Brewery, an indie in the town, makes amazing ales).
running a beer brewing course, and the guy who runs it actually adds a bit of salt to the water before using it to brew as he reckons it makes it taste better. I might have to take a trip to Burton and taste some water.
Think that might be a Courage as well...have to look that up
Ordinarily I get to Sourced at St Pancras but not sure I'll have enough time as I have a train at 1:43
Also a nice one just around the corner from the station called the Bree Louise that has a lot of ales on, and is a more traditional pub (as opposed to the tap, which is a funny, tiny building, good for standing outside though if the weather's good).
the Euston Tap is literally in the old station gatehouse 20 seconds from the station, and is amazing. Directly opposite is the Cider Tap if that's more your thing.
dunno? there's an m&s isnt there?
but at sourced you can get beavertown and shizz like that
I know about the pubs I work around the corner. I thought the fact that I referenced another shop would have been enough
and have never heard of sourced
assuming their licence allows
was an odd name for a pub.
Not a fan though.
As ominpresent bottled ales go I prefer a Newccy Brown anyday. Which I suppose is brewed in Luton or something.
when scottish & newcastle were bought by heineken loads of people up here stopped drinking brown ale in protest.
to get annoyed that the water is from the Midlands rather than Cornwall. Just imagine.
Stupid pasty eating CUNTS
Aston Martin not from right dealership shocker
ipad bought from Tesco shocker
Very drinkable. There's a time and a place for more complicated beers, but sometimes it just hits the spot.