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bit late but. thoughts?
whole approach to drug and alcohol policy is fucking mental. I agree that some of these legal highs are fucking terrifying- worst experience of my life was as a result of a blue pill I bought for £4.99 from the dr herman shop in Manchester. I tripped balls for four days and had such bad muscle spasming I thought I might be having a stroke. end up paralysed.
However, if the proper nice drugs were legal there would be no need for these crazy planmt food thigns. Legalisatoin would, over time, drive away the underground activity that surrounds drug supply at present, and which is linked to all aspects of organised crime (money laundering, people tracking, prostitution, some other).
Legalise and tax drugs and regulate their availability so it's not sold to kids. And then let people get on with their lives and make their own choices.
Drugs exist and are potenially dangerous so instead of putting their control into the hands of criminals they should take responsibly for them.
Sell them in government run shops/chemist things (like they do with alcohol in Sweden) and make sure people know the risks/how much to take etc etc. Then tax it.
Of course it'll never happen - remember '24 hour' drinking? Everyone will be pissed all the time! No one will go to work! It'll be Saturday night market town atmosphere 24/7!
be made for any vice though? Where do 'you' draw the line?
Your appearance must be *this* ironic to enter
Would've been better.
It seems so obviously the correct thing to do. I assume it's something to do with money like all policy that goes against logic is.
of the right press wing would lose their shit over everyone becoming 'junkies' and just being high all the time.
Because that would happen. For sure.
and it will stop any kids I have from doing it, I'm either for it or don't give a shit. The fact that I can't decide between the two means probably the latter
They're not going to go down to some dreadlocked chump's herbal high shop and buy a load of bath salts that are shit anyway. I don't give a shit if they want to have some actual drugs that are good and have a proven track record of being good. I've never gone to my dealer and said 'U got any plant food m8? I want to snort something totally shit" - He's probably mixed it in with the coke already
that tey won't disappear just because they've been made illegal, they have their own market now and being 'not illegal yet' isn't their main selling point, although it probably is their USP. Some people genuinmely dig these stupid thigns and kids will still try them.
But otherwise I get what you're saying.
If my kids want to try drugs that's fine- I'm not black and white about this stuff and we all cajole our nervous systm into reacting to chemicals every single day when we have a cup of coffee, a glass of wine, a fa, a piece of chocolate. Granted that taking half an eckie is a bit of a step up fro that, but I don't think it's morally wrong in itself to want tamper with your brain chemistry in your leisure time, so long as you and those around you/ who erly on you are safe.
I think that by maing things illegal it's much harder as a parent to say- look, this is a thing you might want to do one day, and that's ok, but here are some rules about how you do it, which will keep you safe and allow me to sleep at night.
I would not condone my child breaking the law, so for as long as drugs remain illegal, that conversation up there^ will not happen and my kids will probably take drugs in a skip with junkies as result whle telling me they're at Stuart's house doing homework. Because fear of parental disapproval does not deter kids- they do what they want. ok some might be more obedient than others, curious than other etc. But you know what I mean. It would be better to be able to categorise this stuff with alcohol and smoking so when you have the chat with your kids about the risks of these, you can also deal with the bad drugs.
Oh it's all a bit hard.
You say this as though it's an inevitability when it really isn't.
not 'inevitably' you dimbo.
The thing is:
1. boring old mummy saying it's naughty is not going to deter the kind of rapscallions I am likely to produce ;
2. ultimately I'd rather have a slightly naughty kid who takes the odd toke or a line here and there, drinks too much every so often, than raise some complete trevor with vaginitis.
making drugs illegal will definitely stop everyone from taking them
I would be tempted, never touched them so far (apart from weed obvs).
as it stands I'm an addict and can't be trusted with it. If I bought an 8th I'd cane it in one night and then have it every day after that until I was able to break off from it, say by going on holiday. Same for the mrs.
If it was available in single use form, ie. you didn't have to buy a job lot each time, then I'd be much more inclined to consume it in this way. Its like if every time you wanted a pint of beer you had to buy 10 of them, and if you didn't drink them in time they'd go flat. (I'm aware weed doesn't go 'flat' but it does dry out and go rank)
a wee bit.
I would LOVE it if you could buy coke by the line in bars, or half an eckie at the subclub, or £3 for a finger dab into a bag of mandy, mmmmmm.
I don't even do the Ds any more, partly because you need to buy in bulk and I just don't have a lifestyle that requires lots of them, nor do I have a job where I can risk having them sitting around at home.
So I will just continue to dream of this utopia where cigarette girls with pin curls and hotpants come round and you can gaze at their lovely bosoms as they cut you out a line of gak on their tray and then you can get your face right in close to their bosom when you lean in to take your line off their tray.
NOW if it is ever legalised, that's my bar idea, right there.
cigarettes are legal, I've dabbled with them prob even less that drugs. Just cos something's legal doesn't mean everyone will suddenly start taking them.
as a glamorous lifestyle accessory in the past to try and get people to smoke, either through advertising or in films etc.
(Unless I'm completely missing your point)
*legal system collapses*
good luck to the legal team drafting this statue.
The Psychoactive Substances Bill applied to "any substance intended for human consumption that is capable of producing a psychoactive effect", the government said.
So that will be nutmeg off the menu now guys?
did they explicitly name all the exceptions?
alcohol tobacco caffeine sugar
they're more or less a response to the criminalization of the more well known alternatives it surely makes sense to legalize and monitor those than 1) try and monitor new drugs entering the market 2) ban all drugs.