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i'm getting me the Metro bundle
... when it starts working again
also LOL at that GTA V sale
25% off! Awesome, oh it's still £39.98, oh they've tagged on their fake currency and removed the base game from the listings so they can have a 25% off stamp next to their game without actually reducing the game.... pretty sly.
Actually kind of misleading and kind of shitty, but I guess you're getting more bang for your £39 and not actually paying more so that's fine I guess.
it's super misleading and baiting sales.
For the dark souls 3 release. See you all in, hopefully, 2016.
Literally every game this evening has been either Mage or Hunter.
To two star rank 15 this morning by playing a Flamewaker aggro mage deck.
This shit is bananas.
Struggling with it this season for some reason.
My main gripe at the moment is people playing Face Hunter in CASUAL. There is literally no benefit to doing this.
Failing horribly to cope with the load. Well done Valve.
"are you likely to play this game before the next sale?"
that's the one which fucks me up. not gonna totally wipe out my wishlist this time round.
*goes back to playing Skyrim*
but that one's not in the spirit of the Steam Sale ;)
(at first looks, it's not as good this time around as the Humble one was a month or two ago)
Doing an excellent job of over complicating buying games in the Steam Sale and still messing it up. Being in a 'Daily Deal' or 'Flash Sale' at say only 33% off (as, for example, Hotline Miami 2 currently is) does not constitute a good deal.
Is the game (or bundle) reduced by at least 75%? Then go ahead and purchase it now.
I rarely buy unless it's under a fiver or I *really* want the game. Generally speaking, it's rare that anything that's less than 18-24 months old will get a decent discount these days.
daily or flash deal though it isn't going to go any cheaper during this particular sale.
i like clicking on the game though, although fully aware like the team card game last summer it's all 100% pre determined.
have £30 in my steam wallet, tempted by hotline miami 2 maybe or tales from borderlands, but will probably just buy witcher 3 even though i don't like witcher 2.
Tales From The Borderlands has episode 3 coming out in a couple of weeks, so i'd say this is a good purchase.
it WILL go cheaper but only by a couple of quid and after all eps are out.
Probably the most fun I've had with a game in several years
this thread is for grown-ups
Not now. I was tackling my backlog! It was beginning to look less silly!
Nethertheless I bought Metro: Last Light out of the bundle, played an hour and a half and remembered I didn't like the first one and cannot be arsed with stealthing about. Anyone know what the deal is with refunds from the sale? I'd quite like to get my cash back and use it on another game I neither want nor need.
Really good game that. Had to look up one of the puzzle solutions in the end though. Fiendish stuff in places.
Must get round to playing it, just having a break post-The Fall as thematically and visually, it looked pretty similar.
Definitely worth a play through once your palette is suitably cleansed.
Untouched: Rayman Legends / The Swapper / Stealth Inc 2 / NBA2K14
Barely scratched: Bit Trip Runner 2 / NSMBU
Worth finishing properly: Bayonetta / AC:Black Flag / Nintendoland / SM3DWorld / Little Inferno / Nano Assault Neo
Still, usually come home from work and think this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHBnRk-UAAA8V0f.jpg
Even though migrating to PC has led to gaming backlog growing to the extent that your little lot, with all due respect, seems kind quaint. I have 100 games and I've finished fewer than 10. Though to be fair half of them are unfinishable or primarily multiplayer games. That still leaves a worrying amount of game, especially with another sale on.
That's my role on these boards, to be the super keen gamer who only gets to put about 40 hours of playtime in a year and so accordingly only ever owns one lacklustre console and spends most of their time wishing they had the time to tackle a 50 hour epic...
Which is why I just *know* that copy of FF12 I have on Ps2 will always remain unplayed in the loft.
Your backlog is bigger than mine was when I just had the 360. It's just these ruddy steam sales. I'll buy pretty much anything if it's more than 75% off. Doesn't matter what it is. No self control.
except maybe pillars of eternity, I'm looking forward to that.
still waiting for the internet to get sorted so i can get back into Splatoon.
Apparently, "I can't be arsed with stealth" is enough of a reason to score a refund.
With the new policy if you see anything in the sale you think you might possibly enjoy you may as well jump on it. So long as you don't play for more than 2 hours and apply within 14 days you can get your money back.
how badly smaller indie games are getting burned by that new policy.
but then remembered the biggest dickheads are just going to pirate them anyway, so...
Microsoft have too many other great games to show instead. Seems a bit weird saving them for August though to me. Unless they have about 30 new games.
See that Platinum have said they have ANOTHER brand exclusive game to show at E3 this year? Exciting... wonder who'll get it?
Pretty much all of them in fact.
it's the only thing so far currently tempting me that I think my computer has the possibilty of running vaguely succesfully
UFO: Enemy Unknown/X-Com: UFO Defence is the classic original. Prob still be best for purest experience.
X-Com: Terror from the Deep is basically a tougher re-skin of the first game.
Then there was Apocalypse (similar to the first two I think), Interceptor (a space combat sim) and some other one which name I forget which is an awful 3rd person shooter, X-Com in name only.
The recent remake XCOM is also great, more streamlined for a modern audience (some say dumbed down) but still great fun to play.
My mate absolutely swears Apocalypse is the best and he's played a lot of xcom. Back then I only played them on the PSone though which it never got released on.
Anyone played Xenonauts? Supposed to be an update much more in tune with the originals. I feel guilty - I followed it's development until the shiny new version was announced and promised myself I wouldn't forget about it..
but found it much better once I switched from the semi real-time battle mode to the turn based one. That and UFO: Enemy Unknown are well worth playing from the original series. Terror From the Deep is less essential as far as I'm concerned, but just as decent as Enemy Unknown really.
Can't really judge Interceptor and Enforcer as I've never really played much in the way of Space Sims or First Person games, but Interceptor might be worth a look if you're interested in that kind of thing (although obviously it'll be dated now), whereas Enforcer is quite obviously (even to me) a bad game.
and after a reasonably boring pirate intro section it became an Office Simulator
I genuinely have no idea why everyone was so kind to it at the time.
The combat in a world post-Arkham Asylum & Dark Souls is shoddy. The missions are repetitive and very linear. The map is like some attention seeking, headache inducing ADD child screaming at you 24/7. The boat bits are kinda fine but it's hard to find decent upgrades to your boat, meaning I had to spend loads of time on land to earn dollar. The stealth sections are all awful. The stealth boat sections are totally unforgivable. The bits in the real world are fucking tedious. The rewards for scouring the map for hours is often some loose change or a shard of something shite.
Yet the weird thing is, every few months I boot up my save, do 3 missions, think 'this is ok' and quite enjoy it. It only seems to require you to use 2 buttons too, so it's handy as it's not too taxing remembering the controls.
But yeah... find the whole series (well, the first 2 and this one) a bit crap to be honest.
yeah the ass creed games are a big pile of ass
Only reason I keep going back is for the sea shanties.
Oh, and it's quite nice to find a new place - climb up dead high - then sync. Lovely old 360 graphics there - big vistas are still really lovely.
Other than that it's pretty shit and I give up after about 35 minutes.
This looks pretty great #darksoulsmodcentric
with Braid and Super Meat Boy in it. Never played either somehow, so I just grabbed it. Super Meat Boy is absolutely ridiculous, I love it!
My Steam library is starting to look like my list of books I will totally get round to reading - someday.
Steam's "waiting for players to join the game" game
though I dunno what's going on with the Sphere Grid -- Lulu is inexplicably following Wakka around. Getting right on my nerves.
I sometimes wish that it was the old-style box of text means of dialogue instead of voices. Partly cause Final Fantasy dialogue is not made to be read; and cause it's impeded me having as much fun with a naming system as I'd like. Scatological names for aeons is all well and good; but sometimes you need to summon a particular aeon and you can't remember whether Bum Face or Skidmark is yr fire aeon, and it just adds more pressure to the high-octane nature of contemporary living
quickly the point where I stopped when I were a young'un because the boss kept wiping the floor with me. In the space of about a month, and with relatively limited time for gaming.
You idiot, young me
Cause that's the bit that done me I think.
See also FF9 where I had to fight some dick boss that could absorb lightning and my only good summon was a lightning one and they had split my party up so couldn't get any others swapped in.
and also some of the names like Yu-Yon and Yu-Yevon. Hated them too. So much worse than 12
Collectors edition comes with pipboy case, which you can put your phone into, install an app, and control your in game pipboy through.
As the guy doing the presentation pretty much says, it might be a gimmick, but it's very very cool.
because it's been made on a slightly shiner version of the same broken engine. I can't say that bothers me in the slightest. I think I'd get a bit freaked out if the NPCs didn't skate around like they're on ice, or if the game didn't break every hour or so.
Also I kinda want the pip-boy. I don't care how silly it is or that I'm a grown man.
Dishonored guys sounded really nervous when they were about to do their reveal, bless em.
Bethesda really nailed it. i kinda wish they'd kept Fallout 4 quiet until E3 and then have Todd Howard come on at the end like he did and do the Fallout 4 thing, reveal the release date and do a mic drop at the end.
Dipped into 3 for 2 hours whilst a hungover mate slept it off and could see I'd love it. Fallout mobile game out now too and looks really good!
Doom looked like a pre-rendered scene to me rather than in-game but the vibe was really brutal, industrial and hellish. Really nailed the original's aesthetic.
that's actually in-game. :-D i heard some of the post-show chat in my insomniac state.
hope it doesn't get too repetitive. it looks like it might head that way.
the mod tool looks pretty user friendly.
Saw a videogame journalist say that it wasn't on twitter and a few things looked odd, like the delay and examination when you pick up weapons and the head movement when you first hear the monster noise. Looks really impressive (though I struggled to see what the hell was going on at times, hence why I sucked at Quake in general I guess)
Man could sell a shit sandwich, and frequently does.
The Nintendo World Championships were also pretty fun. Only stayed awake until Round 3 but a new 3DS title got announced that seemed to involve shooting a big, death ball into a goal using Metroid Primes' controls (didn't really look my bag) and lots of people being insanely good at Super Metroid and the original Zelda.
Loads of new Smash Bros content unveiled too including a quite brilliantly animated Streetfighter Ryu crossover. Quite steep to buy it all mind: http://www.polygon.com/e3-2015/2015/6/14/8778053/super-smash-bros-roy-update-e3-2015
Mario Maker also got shown off but it's now called Super Mario Maker and looks really fucking good actually. Didn't really care for it before... http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/15/8780523/super-mario-maker-bros-e3-world-1-1-nintendo-world-championship-gameplay
Enjoyed 'John Numbers' and 'Cosmo'
Basically, WipEout on Wii U. So I'm made up, as long as it handles well.
Given that the previously released screenshots were higher resolution (PC) images rather than at actual Wii U resolution, this trailer doesn't provide much further assurance in representing the final game.
Thought the same thing though myself.
and this weekend in the flat to myself. Gonna buy the Witcher 3 and Scholar of the First Sin. Can this week fuck off now please?
more or less everything on my wishlist is half price apart from the pre-orders
determined to be strong and not to buy anything. i can do this.
and i watched some of the nintendo world championships stream
Finally completed FTL on Normal and feel well chuffed.
I cannot do this.
My mate has done it loads. On normal I've only ever gotten to the mothership once and got totally rinsed immediately.
Oh man - I don't need to go back to playing this...
so you don't take too much damage when you're exploring, and then getting the teleporter and some rockmen/mantis. Killing enemy crew rather than destroying their ship gets you loads more scrap to spend, plus the flagship's weapons are in sealed rooms so you can teleport in, destroy them, and they don't get repaired.
Was using the Type B Kestrel btw - starts with loads of weapons and crew.
And you still need quite a lot of jamminess for random events...
took ages to get going but now it's in the swing of it, I'm enjoying it. Super different to the other games in the series though.
Started as a Khajit, obvs, but when the EU server was down yesterday afternoon I joined the US server and started over as a Nord. Game just seems massive. Met a random who seems to be on a lot of the time I am, so we've helped each other do a few of the more challenging bits, which is nice.
Maybe you should join a guild or start one?
I've been looking for one but every time I find one that looks interesting or adheres to what I need i.e server etc they have the worst PSN name. The last one was called h0m0hurriace.
Started Fallout New Vegas. Didn't realise it was basically Skyrim in the desert, which means I can dig it
Vaporised a dude in a fight yesterday and was like yeah take that motherfucker
Anyway, got standard RPG oh god I've got my starting stats wrong I'm going to ruin the game for myself woe
it gets better as it goes along, instead of steadily losing your interest.
if it's losing my interest steadily, it's so steady as to be almost non-existent
Intense Training perk is your friend for stats. NV is a bit meaner with stats than Fallout 3 though as you only get to choose one every 2 (or 3? i forget) times you level up.
What did we think?
Personally, very solid and exactly what I expected on the whole. Halo seems to have morphed into CoD, Gears remastered and 4 seemed very, very dark. Rare showed off a cartoon Black Flag game and retro collection (sans Goldeneye). Several new cgi trailers. Dark Souls 3 confirmed. Tomb Raider footage was gorgeous but not very interactive.
Backwards compability introduced for 100 games. Lots of partnering up too with Valve (to do Beta demos I think?) and Oculus (free Xboxone controller with every one!).
Holo lens thing with Minecraft in 3D was properly amazing. Do you need that thing though, Oculus and a Kinect? Hmmm...
Some nice indie fun too. Ashen looked lovely.
Lots to look forward to, not much from what we saw gameplay wise to get truly excited about, I'd say. Rather more of the same with better graphics.
Goodbye social life. Perfect Dark, Conker's Bad Fur Day AND Jet Force Gemini? Will literally feel like a 10 year old again.
Rarely manage to go back to old games now and enjoy them, especially early 3D ones. 2D ones get away with it more.
Pele story hour is so hideously illguided
And then Battlefront looked like a Star Wars fans wet dream.
Good games on the whole but presented awfully
Obsidian's name on that trailer
If you like multiplayer, co-op gaming via headsets. Sadly I don't.
The Last Guardian? Coming soon(ish).
FF7? 20th Anniversary full remake under way.
Shenmue 3? Sony backed Kick starter hits goal in about 4 minutes.
I mean, it was inevitable and a long time coming, but FUCK! I'm giddy
I'm still absolutely amazed that they're actually happening. Shenmue FFS! Gobsmacked.
This as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXLZvsSmBIs
That was nuts. Daughter was awake in the other room so caught bits. Felt like if Microsoft's was about getting the XboxOne immediately back on track, Sony's was about getting the lapsed, older gamers and ensuring PS4s dominance in 18 months time. Microsoft talked to the head, Sony the heart.
Despite not much of it being up my street, the MS lineup for 2015 is really strong whereas Sony's is barren. However they cleverly used nostalgia and sharing a Kickstarter campaign to hide this.
Dreams and that cell shaded last human survivor title also looked really progressive and intriguing. Feels like Sony is trying to move the concept of gaming on to me, whereas MS's mission is more of the same.
Therefore I'll be getting a PS4 when there's a price drop or must have game beyond Bloodborne.
Follow that Nintendo... (Half Life 3 exclusive Wii U release?!)
but I don't think they're all that interested in moving gaming on. Forgive the obviousness of this statement: they're just interested in making money and have been quite clever in pitching themselves in contrast to MS' relentless bombastic dudebro approach to things. It's just good marketing.
Both had good conferences to be fair - but then the devs have had some time to work with the consoles and bring their first big true next gen releases to fruition. Given the materials at their disposal this years e3 was an open goal for them.
Can't say either convinced me to buy a console but if I were to get either on the basis of yesterday it'd definitely be a PS4. Gotta hand it to Sony - pulling that holy trinity of The Last Guardian, FFVII and Shenmue 3 out of the bag was inspired. They were a Half Life 3 away from straight up winning gaming.
Still not sure the imminent gaming landscape is making me want either console. MS because I find their franchises a bit dull. Sony because Bloodborne aside, everything third-party is either too big to commit to or not my bag either.
Suspect I'll get a PS4 around Christmas if SW Battlefront and Fallout 4 get great reviews or when The Last Guardian / Uncharted 4 / Tomb Raider / No Mans Sky / Firewatch / Dark Souls 3 all have release dates confirmed. Wow, 2016 looks like a GREAT year for gaming.
that's...pretty sexy. Unless you really like your big shooty-bang games (or have friends on xbox live I guess) there's only one choice at this point.
I'm trying not to think about SW Battlefront. On paper Dice does Battlefield is an unbelievable prospect. EA Dice however...EA will no doubt try and pump the audience dry with endless map packs with extra shiny weapons that unbalance the game and generally ruin everything.
they're releasing the Creation Kit in early 2006.
Mods made on PC will be compatible with the Xbone. They're also 'trying' to bring it to PS4.
Mods on consoles. WITCHCRAFT.
is the perfect way to solve all the problems they created with the botched ending of Mass Effect 3.
I know some people don't like linier cinematic games but I love them and rather a tightly scripted exciting experience than a dull open world where you can go and clean your teeth whenever you want for no reason.
It looked great full, properly channelling Indiana Jones with that chase sequence.
"well there's a section i'll fail at least 10 times in a row"
Literally buying a PS4 today (which I was already planning on doing in fairness) best bundles atm y'all?
2017 I think? To coincide with the 20 year anniversary. Suspect it's a timed release too from the conference rather than an exclusive.
Actually rewatching some of it today, Sony were very cunning but almost everything they showed was more up my street than what MS are up to. Used lots of great developers to paint a picture of PS4 being amazing but resorted to some timed exclusives, way off projects and a sneaky Kickstarter thing ($2 million goal? Needs more like $200 surely?!).
But hey, The Last Guardian footage alone is enough to make my day. Looks wonderful. Never played Shenmue so not sure if it'll EVER live up to the hopes that fanbase has. Personally not too fussed about a FF7 remake either.
Think that trailer was trying to set expectations with the bit about 'The reunion at hand may bring joy, it may bring fear, but let us embrace whatever it brings'. Wonder how much they'll update it? Art style will have to change (looks a bit Deus Ex and human realistic rather than silly and stylised at the moment), but will the turn based combat and sense of humour go too? Some interesting arguments ahead!
When it comes to exclusives.
but an appalling abuse of Kickstarter by Sony there - if they want the publicity of a PS4 exclusive, they can afford to drop an extra $2m of their own money into the game.
Didn't the original cost $50 million waaaaaaayyyy back when? Sets unrealistic expectations of how much a AAA title costs a developer. Sure it'll end up getting closer to that figure than 2 though by the end.
May have needed the two million from kickstarter to show level of interest and reduce risk of investment
"broken all kickstarter records" will look good on the advertising.
Some of the stretch goals seem odd - another million for subtitles? Surely that should be standard?
can't beat their trailers though.
Should keep me going till Fallout 4, Uncharted 4 etc come out but just in-case what are some good dip-in/dip-out games for it that are currently out?
Get a PS+ account for the freebies every month too
seen loads of reviews saying it is but the fact they're selling Xbox Live basically half price worries me...
Rainbow 6 brings back Terrorist Hunt
Ghost Recon loses stupid future tech
No Man's Sky is No Man's Sky
Fallout 4 has a dog you can command to pick things up for you
That did look properly awesome. Almost awesome enough to make me want to buy a headset, befriend 3 people who'd be interested in this sorta thing and stay up until 3am playing it.
I've got one regular friend who is on a lot and into games like this. I need 2 more.
Good time to lay an egg so you can switch your attention to your next console.
No Project Guard, Devil's Third slipping out quietly, no Retro Studios title, Starfox not looking too finished, no Garage projects unveiled or a Zelda tease.
After Mario Maker, Xenoblade and Yoshi's Yarn, that's your lot.
What a shame. Great little machine :(
Looked a bit barren to me? Also wasn't too sure on the art style. Bits on walkers a bit dull too.
Liked that Starfox was always on rails, kept up the momentum and sense of frenzy. See that it was made by Platinum Games too. Without wanting to go over old ground yet again, can't help feeling that Treasure would have done it better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl_s5LkZ700
They should probably hold any good Wii U games left still in development back as launch titles for the next console - unless of course they have finally thought of some meaningful way of actually using the Gamepad in a game.
will get 9/10's for ambition but still looks really dull to me. If every planet is just a barren wasteland with slightly different colour schemes and no real story it doesn't strike me as being much fun. They gave a glimpse of space fights but if you don't really care what side wins you will just end up flying past them like when the factions are fighting in far cry 4 or whatever. Just becomes dull.
Could be like Watch Dogs where that initial reveal promised so much but the prolonged hype and final amount of variety can just never deliver what your brain hoped it would.
is even if it turns out a bit rubs, the idea of it is still achievable and the potential for a brilliant game of its ilk is there.
all I could think was 'oh fuck off'
when it's that big it seems like the whole endevour is going to be entirely futile. fuck off mate.
still think it's probably going to be amazing. yeah, I can't make up my mind
Miyazaki is at the helm and directly responsible for world building ("Areas are interconnected just like in the first Dark Souls. Having an interconnected map is my favorite.”) No more mysterious elevators to sky lava. Also it's not the last in the Souls series as rumoured but now he's president of From Souls releases will slow so as not to cheapen things. And rumours are the lore in this one connects more directly to Dark Souls 1. On the demo there were references to the Lord of Cinder seen about the place..
Basically he said everything I wanted to hear. I love that man. I love him so much.
for a proper sequel to Rollercoaster Tycoon 3*.
* It's called something else as they don't own the rights, but since they released the last good game in the series it might as well be treated as the true sequel.
in Driver: San Fransico and The Fall. I've been impressed with my restraint thus far.
What has everyone else been buying?
Might purchase Toybox Turbos (£2.99) for some Micro Machines based nostalgia, but waiting for better reductions on some games.
do ps3/4s make good bluray players? Or are they about as good as ps2 were at DVDs?
they are good
I signed it , honestly i refuse to just fucking let them ignore us and not listen to their gaming audience. I REFUSE to let them walk all over us and pretend this was a good idea, this is a travesty to the metroid series and NOBODY asked for this , EVERYONE wanted ANYTHING but a FUCKING SOCCER METROID GAME AND SAMUS ISNT EVEN IN IT. This is disguting so yeah i signed it and im happy i did becuase maybe now they’ll finally listen to us.
I was beginning to think they were? What with bringing mature titles like Bayonetta 2 and Devils Third out. A western release of Mother / Earthbound. DLC done right. Metroid Prime Trilogy release on eShop due to shortages. Majoras Mask remaster.
I'm not sure that its a case of not listening, more that they had some crappy game and stuck the Metroid tag on it to flog it to fill a gap. Its why they glossed over it at E3 in 20 seconds.
is only a mini-game within the main game and this is the most 'liked' reason for signing.
Last Guardian: Was really exciting back in 2009, but as a result of the arty/indie game boom since it was first shown, it looked kind of bland? And the kids voice annoyed me a great deal. I'll still buy it day one but I have my doubts. DOOOOGOOOO HOOOOHOOO imagine playing this game for hours on end yelling that.
Battlefront: Looks excellent, really pretty and even though I like vanilla Battlefield with the default modernwarfare skin I'm sure I'll enjoy the atmosphere of this one a lot more.
Final Fantasy VII: Not a single shit was given this day, it's going to be a modern Final Fantasy game with nostalgia attatched to it. I guess it doesn't help that I think Final Fantasy VII was the beginning of the end for the franchise with 9 being the only good polygon based game in the series. I'm sure it'll sell like gangbusters though and I'll reserve judgement until some gameplay is shown in 2017
Xbox One has backwards compatibility: Quite a big deal if I'm honest with you, especially if it means they can bundle the old games of a franchise with new releases which they've shown they're whiling to do with the clancy games.
PS4 Vs Xbone exclusives: SO now it turns out Shemue 3 does have Sony's involvement (re my point that they probably had funding for the thing but just needed to show proof of demand) the exclusive defect doesn't seem so bad. But in terms of true exclusives (IE no PC release) I still think Xbone is pulling ahead of the PS4... at least in 2015. Also PS4 isn't getting Cuphead at all! On that note Cuphead looks rad
Fallout 4 looked great: I had my doubts about fallout 4, about how much of a 'sequel' they'd make it and so far it looks like they've added quite a lot and have honed in on the sandbox side of things further, the environment seemed a lot more diverse and the new crafting/building mechanic looks neat. I am very excited.
No Man's Sky: I think this going to be great in certain contexts... in the type of game you play frequently but in very short bursts, it'll probably excel as a podcast game but I don't think it's going to be the endless time dump that we initially hoped it would be.
Hololens: Hololens looked really cool, that Minecraft demo blew my mind, especially with how accurate and responsive the head tracking was. The general mood after the Halo tech demo was incredibly positive as well with people saying 'it looked like an actual window with depth, it didn't feel imposed on the wall' which makes me think this could be a better solution to a 'Virtual' home theater than the Oculas demo that Xbox were showing off.