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How do we solve a problem like Mesut, eh?
but i'm assuming Ozil was completely anonymous and Arsenal fans defended him praising his 'movement' and how he 'gets into little pockets of space' etc and then they lost and they all turned on Wenger
to that poor 60000 supporters for going to watch that. Dreadful.
Arsenal fans dont deserve that, the amount of money we have to pay to watch em, that as a return simply aint good enough. Arrogant,over confident, no passion. They need to pull their socks up and go on a run now.
- My Arsenal supporting mate lays the smackdown on last night's performance
We're writing them off and that, but they could still do that, win the FA Cup, retain the North London Shield and of course they've got the We Beat Man City trophy as well, admittedly shared with Boro, Newcastle, Stoke, about half of the country actually.
is an Arsenal fan, albeit of the long-distance variety, and woke me up in the small hours wailing & gnashing her teeth at the result. Must be infuriating to support a team like that. At least with Coventry we're shit, we've always been shit, and the only way we're going to change is by becoming even more shit. You know where you stand with Cov. But Arsenal, jesus, just when you thought they'd finally seen the light and turned into the kind of pragmatic outfit that can grind out wins at the Etihad & Selhurst Park, they go & do this. Monaco may be the form side of Ligue 1 at the moment but they're still shite in Champs League terms.
They're pretty decent away in Europe, and their billionaire oligarch owner might be mates with Monaco's billionaire oligarch owner or something.
...but Mesut, though...what a stinker!
But yes, can see them winning in Monaco - half-empty stadium with little in the way of home advantage or an intimidating crowd, & Wenger will get a warm welcome.
to act as rehab for anonymous megabucks no. 10s and give Ozil, Mata and di Maria some time on the ball to rebuild their confidence. Maybe stick Harry Kane upfront so they don't get hammered every week though otherwise it might be counter-productive.
it's going to be Boro, Derby and probably Norwich, isn't it?
Bournemouth are unlikely to be strong enough to make it in the Premier League - stadium capacity of 12,000 and lacking the resources to survive. Would still be amazing if they picked up a play-off place, though.
lower capacity and worse ground, would probably be non-league/liquidated were it not for our owner having an extremely large pile of beer tokens. new stadium should help us, make some money out of selling off Griffin Park, hopefully better attendances, make more money there and actually be sustainable.
still think it'd be amazing/hilarious if we both went up, would be a good scrap to see if either of us can avoid breaking Derby's record of uselessness, and us playing each other would be the worst Premier League fixture ever.
other play-off Norwich vs Ipswich. The Dream
topped off with some abject stupidity. After those couple of seasons when Arsenal were playing catch-up to just scrape the top four, last season was such a good change of pace. Then signing Sanchez felt like the momentum would keep going, but they've regressed so much this season. Plenty of reasons/excuses for it, some of which are even reasonable, but still massively frustrating.
They're going to choke against United in the FA Cup now :(
We're in decent form generally, third in the league, big Cup game coming up so no need to go nuclear just yet. The irritating (and utterly predictable) thing about last night was the collective brainfartery that descended as soon as something bad happened.
Missing a few chances, looking a bit laboured and conceding a fluke can happen to anybody, what compounds it is that we immediately panicked and all semblance of shape and discipline went out of the window, despite having an hour left, at home, plus a whole second leg, against a vastly less experienced side. Really weird how naïve we can still be.
but it's just a disappointment after last season as I really thought they'd push on. And, City aside, still flailing like dickheads in matches of any stature.
It's not unfixable or end of days, still giving me the hump though.
Which is weird being as our whole purpose these days seems to be qualifying for the Champion's League, but I do struggle to care that much once we're there, beyond enjoying big occasions when we play sides like Bayern or Barca.
DIDN'T WANT TO WIN IT ANYWAY
what's gonna happen to wenger when he goes?
There's going to be a fergie-esque shadow hanging over the club, you can't imagine him just swanning off to Martinique and sitting on the beach. If he moves upstairs he'll get in the way of however tries to take over, I don't believe he has any sort of protege lined up to continue in his method (steve bould??), so whoever comes in will have to change things alot.
get a big name in and they presumably won't want him hanging around, go for a lesser name with a #ideology and he'll always be held up to wenger.
why is danny mills hurtling out of the sea?
also look at the size of the #thighs on person in the background on the right
or have any say on who replaces him, which I think is probably for the best in the short term.
Long term would be nice to think he could have some sort of honorary role; whatever you think of him as a manager it's a massive amount of knowledge and contacts to let walk away, especially considering there's fuck all football knowledge on the current board.
Now we don't have to get spanked by one of the big boys in the next round.
Ozil was nowhere near our worst player last night. Collective lame-ness.
I'd watch that actually.
but his record in Europe is actually pretty awful isn't it? Gets a lot of praise from qualifying from the group year-on-year, but I can't remember the last time they impressively qualified in the knockout rounds, or looked remotely likely to get a result over one of the bigger clubs. Which I suppose is excusable enough each year but cumulatively it's just so predictable and futile them even being in the competition, when clubs of a similar size or much smaller are achieving much better things. Even worse when you consider the investments on Ozil and Sanchez.
Correct me if i'm wrong but seems like Arsenal under Wenger massively underachieved when they actually were one of the top sides in Europe too, iirc.
There's such emphasis on top 4 every year for Arsenal, but when they have such little impact on the competition it makes you think the best thing for them would be to not even be in champions league and improve domestically, or actually have a realistic chance of winning something if they were in the europa league. Change of seeding should finally sort that out tbh, bit of a joke that they've been seeded for so long
probably made this same post the last 3 years.
If you take last night as an anomaly (time will tell on that I guess), I think Arsenal generally perform to their level in Europe and domestically - consistently qualify, generally beat the teams we should beat, struggle against better sides etc.
The problem is that just maintaining that status quo starts to get a bit tiresome after a while and what looked like achievement when we were skint and now looks just about ok will very soon look like under performing if we don't kick on now that we've cracked open the WARCHEST. If that happens then I guess questions about whether Wenger's methods, judgement etc. start to look more legitimate
the initial ball through beats about 4 guys at once after Per gets turned so easily, Berbatov literally strolls up to the penalty area unchallenged, and then when he gets his shot away it beats three defenders all hilariously half-arsedly flinging themselves in a vague area the ball might cross.
and to top it all off, IT WAS DIMITAR BERBATOV
amazing scenes :'D
Out of his feet and to the right slightly, close enough so he didn't have to sprint, far enough so the defenders were never going to get the block in.
Then waits until the last possible split second to fire home.
- 'how did you manage to make yourselves look So good and make Arsenal so ordinary?'
- 'because we ARE good.'
Kick-off's at 6, so need to make sure you're all suitably reverent by then.
because I am far from confident.
Arsenal to win the away leg 2-0 to give them a 'moral victory'?
Russell Crowe yet?
in other far more exciting news, sex in the centre circle. lovely stuff
Right in her valley. or something
we're not that sort of club
Mentally preparing myself for all hope to be extinguished after conceding 5 in the opening 20 mins.
Also the caption by the guardian contains a great typo... 'Dunin' Donuts' anybody?
Literally nobody outside of the club could've known what those torches meant.
Ba kind of ruins it when you realise he was trying to turn, not set up Arseland.
They better not be focusing on the league
dunno what we'll actually do when english teams only get three champions league spots.
Thumb in a Suit will be playing a 2-4-1-3 by then.
Chelsea and Everton will save the coefficient this year
A gruelling 120 minute away game in Europe with less than 3 days to prepare for their next game. That's a real stroke of luck for whoever Liverpool are playing this weekend. Anyone know who it is?
You need to provide some fresh material for me to work with!
Bunch of diving cunts. I think I'd rather the sheep went up. Surrounding the ref for every decision, penalty appeals right the way down to throw-ins on half way. Embarassing.