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And there are no options but to sit next to a stranger. How do you decide which stranger to sit next to?
go for the one who has their bag on the seat
or whoever is smallest/taking up the least room
can't stand sitting next to move-the-fuck-over bros
Why? You have a choice over sitting next to someone who is not fussed or someone who may be uncomfortable or have good reason to have their bag on the seat, and you go for the one that causes the mist unhappiness?
what a shit game that was
On your lap or by your feet then
what if you can't put things on your lap because it's heavy and you ARE DISABLED and do not want to infringe your already compromised personal space by taking up floor space
people who ask people to move their bags when there are plenty of seats unoccupied by bags are simply inconsiderate and selfish
do you think everyone on a bus/train is disabled because you are?
it's still inconsiderate and selfish
they could be, how do you know? there are invisible disbilities, and not all disabled people have wheelchairs (personally i use other living aids such as walking sticks).
there's literally no reason to do it regardless. that person doesn't want someone sitting next to them, as they've politely indicated by occupying space.
i bet you don't even realise fully how annoyed and uncomfortable you make people feel yet still relish the thought of people getting riled up by having someone sit next to them for no reason
and still dont want someone sitting near you..?
i never travel without a bag because i have to carry medication etc. so it's never been a problem for me
What point are you trying to make here, that a disabled person without a bag would not be able to use this strategy means that no disabled person would?
that if i chose to sit next to someone who doesnt have a bag on the seat next to them.. i could be causing them discomfort..
Well you might be that's ok because you have no way of knowing, if someone has put their bags there it is a signal that might have those reasons so rather than seek these people out assuming they are selfish just don't assume anything and just sit somewhere else.
yeah of course it is, people often use bags to signal 'please sit somewhere else' most of the time they will not have a good reason for this, but you don't know there reason and sometimes it will be totally valid. given your original post suggests there are other seats, just sit in the other seats why risk it? what benefit is there in pissing someone off, especially if they do have a good reason for it?
also a lot of the discomfort in question is that of having to put their bag on their lap, so if there's no bag there's less discomfort
9 times out if 10 it might be because the person is being inconsiderate, but for the sake of that 1 time they are not just sit in the empty seat, as the point is you have no way of knowing.
or pot kettle black here
define disabled, though? like i said above, there are invisible disabilities. the disabled seats are often fully occupied. there is sometimes no way of telling, you pricks
needing personal space due to physical health conditions, mental health conditions and learning disabilities?
in addition to disability (both as a keeping people away strategy or simple difficulty moving the bags) there are lots of reasons; perhaps you have valuables you want to keep an eye on, perhaps you have been beaten up or harassed in a similar situation before and want to keep people away. but really even having a mild preference to not have someone sit next to you is a good enough reason if there are plenty of other free seats.
yep. there are loads more free seats. why be an absolute arsehole?
i always put my bags down in order to occupy space because i'm disabled and more often than not already uncomfortable enough as it is sitting in the seats. i do not want someone sitting next to me for reasons of pain, comfort and stress/anxiety, especially if they just swing their legs out to the aisle when i need to get off and don't give me enough space and i end up so much worse off.
presume disabled people are in the diasbled seats downstairs
i sit in those seats
sometimes they're taken
sometimes i sit in them on a near-empty bus and put my bags down and people still try to sit next to me
when they say.. could you move you bag so i can sit down.. you say no sorry im disabled and would prefer you sit elsewhere.. not hard is it...
yeah it is for people actually, cause of a number of issues (identity, anxiety, unwanted attention/conversation/pity and shaming/humiliation)
if people stopped trying to occupy spaces that they're not wanted in then the world would be such an easier place
ask people to move their bags because of said issues (anxiety etc)? They've paid for a seat and are entitled to it just as much as you are.
Fwiw I think if the train/bus is empty then fine, go ahead.
this scenario is about someone specifically singling out the person with bags when there are plenty of other seats out of some kind of weird sense of justice
you're the one who has created this very specific strange scenario..
frankly the bag person should feel lucky that its me sitting next to them and not the other people getting on the bus at the next stop
So what was your go for the one with the bag next to them on the seat :) comment? To me that implies singling out someone who doesn't want you there and the smiley indicates taking pleasure in, together implies you think they deserve it.
It probably was a joke but it definitely expresses a real opinion, if not of mwt themselves certainly others
I like how he replied to me about sitting next to them.. yet Yeismaduck has suggested shooting all the disabled people and gets away without a response :'D
There is no real need to repeat the points under ducks late post when it is covered up here
Im helping them, saving them from the other bus wankers.
Im not one of these people who sit with their legs well apart (despite being well endowed), I don't listen to annoyingly loud music, I don't just swivel to let you get out.
You're lucky its me who is sitting next to you, Im happy to help you.
- morpheus (1999)
It's completely beyond me why a person over the age of about 25 would ever have to get on a bus or a train. Why wouldn't you just drive, or if you didn't drive but you're a grown-up on a grown-up's salary, get a taxi? Self-respect and personal space is more important, surely.
and a taxi would be prohibitively expensive. Cycling however is an option, but would probably take just as long once the faff is sorted out.
Cause when I go cycling I have to wrap it around my waist like a belt, and my testicles have to be strapped to my midriff. Takes bleeding ages
then getting to work and out of my cycling stuff. Plus my gargantuan balls. Just the balls, the rest is of a normal size.
where are you going?
that will be £400 please
has taken the objection to his position in this thread on board with maturity, consideration and absolutely no defensiveness whatsoever. Good job, Matt.
fotties on soon so get any other responses in quick please
I hate people who leave their bags on the seat when the bus is clearly filling up, they should be shot or thrown out of the top deck. But if the are plenty of seats who gives a shit. It's bad etiquette to sit next to tall people before shorter people
Someone clearly didn't read the rest of the thread first.
...looks least likely to try and engage with conversation.
definitely, why would you not?
as if you'd sit next to an ugly cunt
don't move when you ask to sit in an unoccupied window seat, they just swing their legs round and expect you to swing past
likewise people who do the same when you say "hi I need to get out"
rude bastards is what they are.
Whatever it is, I make sure it's awkward. Hate these people.
gave them the arse both times
legs. Seems to be a 'thing' to open one's legs to olympic athlete split levels with some men.
I say men specifically because men seem to sit with their legs wide open, like 'swwinnng! Here, I present to you....my package.'
Being honest though, I really prefer to have no-one sat next to me. Unless it's someone with a dog and then I'm like 'Yes, come at me bro!'
them balls have to sit somewhere
Least likely to smell (via looking at them)
Least likely to cough on me
Small so doesn't eat into my seat space
oh fuck it...the reality is: least likely to talk to me
And I'm sitting in the middle of two seats on this train. Gutted, other people on the train.
Some one just sat next to me. Fuck you Bromley south.
Always encroaching on people's personal space
my car smelled like coffee this morning and no coffee has ever been consumed in there or by me ever
Hints of jasmine
I bet his penis is magnificent
usually female, legs together, all over to one side, looking out of the window. They are basically saying "I will keep to my side". I return the favour by keeping over to my side. Failing that, the weediest looking bloke. Next option is people with bags next to them, they obviously don't want anyone there for various reasons (I do this also), but they can move if needed. After that, hard looking blokes with their legs spread taking up room, then crazy tramps, then gangs of teenage twats.
A man of about 50 or so was absolutely hammered and despite sitting next to the train toilet, got up and threw up in the bins by the doors (you know the little tiny ones that are always overflowing) his head was right in it amongst all the rotting banana peels and that. Fucking state. It wasn't even nine o'clock on a fucking Tuesday. Grim.
Preferably someone asleep or engrossed in an iPad or something. Never someone reading the paper, they think they're entitled to extra space so they can open up the whole paper and read it 😡
it's warm enough to cycle to work again (or at least the roads are less icy / dangerous) = no more buses for me until December.
There is a definite pecking order which will be different for everyone to an extent. Number 1 is 'need' - if you need to sit down you'll sit next to anyone. If you are picking and choosing my choice is made the further I walk down the bus thinking generally I should have sat down already. When on the inside practically no one says excuse me when they get up, they just barge past. Packed buses are soul destroying experiences.
I take them to task over their action in a loud voice, bringing everyone's attention to the scenario before taking out a hammer, bludgeoning them to death and then setting fire to their corpse.
After that I'm not really fussed where I sit.
When I'm released from psychiatric hospital I find out where they were buried and I dance on their grave until I pass out from exhaustion.
i just sit in the best located seat ie the nearest, or the upstairs front of the bus, or the seat that's not a priority seat, or the one that's easiest to get off the vehicle from or the one that allows me space for what im carrying
One night I was taking the bus home slightly 'refreshed' when this insanely hot girl came on and sat right next to me, even though there were tons of free seats elsewhere with no one sitting on them.
This kind of behaviour truly plays havoc with the male mind...
She probably gave no thought to it whatsoever, simply sat on the first seat she saw after climbing up the stairs, whereas I sat there contemplating my life and considering whether or not I would be able to leave my partner and kids for this person, a decision which would seriously affect the rest of my days.
You blew it big style.
She doesn't want kids, just a lot of dirty, dirty, dirty sex.
Next time one of your kids comes up to you with snot all over its face just remember what could have been.
It makes them feel safe.
Next to: someone who isn't huge, and who can play Candy Crush without having to have their elbows by their side.
Opposite: someone who knows how to sit up straight and doesn't put their bag on the floor.
If I'm in the mood for annoying then target number one will be anyone with their feet on the seat, followed by anyone with a pet bag next to them.
A while back a "bag on the seat" situation escalated down the carriage from me. The only thing I recall hearing during the hilarious row was when the bloke trying to sit down shouted, in a heavy Northern Irish accent "This seat isn't for a bag. It's for an ARSE!" which was funny on a couple of levels.
should there be better provision on trains / buses for people that (for whatever reason) need a bit of extra space? I know that there are "priority seats" on most trains for people with reduced mobility, and usually there is a carriage or two suitable for a wheelchair user, but is this enough? No idea how many people would benefit from improved provision, or would be put off from travelling on public transport because of the conditions.
Personally I wouldn't ask someone to move their bag unless there were no other seats, but if there was no choice I'd usually ask if I could sit there.
usually one person sits on either side, then someone sits in the middle. Few people try and sit cramped up making it a fivesome even on packed buses. It can backfire though, getting out can be a bastard then.