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Read number two and weep, Balonz!!
Well, what do you think about this? Rubbish, innit?
maybe it didnt come up cos everyone they surveyed was already one
what is with that website design. We all grew out of HTML frames in 1998.
"discover" as the first tab on a page is useless. and why put "ents".
then a little drop down for all the sections
Maybe its a thing.
Ha ha ha. Quality journalism.
I'd assume that most of that 54% think that librarians just sit around reading all day, and haven't noticed the massive job cuts in public, special (and presumably academic) libraries in the last few years?
think it's a given that when someone says they want to be a librarian, it means they want to be employed as a librarian, not an unemployed person with a librarian qualification. same with author. obviously 99.9999% of people who spend some time writing a book fail to finish or publish it
the big phases of academic support staff cuts were quite short lived and a year or two ago
Some places are still trying to cut academic support staff quite heavily. Depending on the implementation of the cuts, it might not be so much the case in more centralised areas such as libraries though, but more departments and stuff.
I thought the Conservative-led government had closed every single library that ever existed?
I suppose that in itself doesn't preclude people from wanting to become librarians though...
You all basically want to be me.
(Are there any actual authors here?)
Don't think so, mate.
(this is a dictation joke)
just lol at their realistic desire.
or free text? I reckon it was a list.
that top one is amazing. Author?! all those people reading 60 hades of grey now thinking of documenting their love lives. brilliant. don't bother, yeah?
People where asked which jobs would you like to do from a list, and 60% of people said they'd like to do an author's job, 54% a librarian's etc...
Still, better than being a librarian, which is basically now just helping people fill in online forms. Thanks, Cameron.
but then I think "no".
who want to be librarians will be jumping at the chance to volunteer in order to maintain existing services during the next round of cuts. Because that's worked ever so well up to this point. (no it hasn't)
you will probably never have job security beyond the next two years (and you'll be lucky to get that) in an environment where nepotism and bullying are par for the course. And you'll have to train for peanuts in that environment to get the right to even be considered for those jobs.
obviously when someone says they want to have this or that career, they mean they want to be successful in that career, or they'd already be doing it
a successful career academic has all those problems. This probably applies to writing to some extent as well: the current state of things seems to be that becoming what people think of as a 'successful' author (like, let's say, getting a book deal) isn't particularly great either.
Admittedly, both areas have an ultra-minority of success that might be driving these perceptions: heads of department in academia, JK Rowling in writing.
"would you like to be a penniless struggling author?"
that people think that a reasonable measure of 'success' in these jobs would make them happy. If you asked one of the people who said they'd like to be an academic if they'd still want to if they couldn't be one of the top 2% in the field, I'm pretty confident that they still would.
Might as well have put 'king'.
Hamster cage designer
cos even a really successful cleaner doesn't have the appeal of sitting in dreaming spire wearing tweed and mulling over the meaning of it all in between rousing good will hunting inspirational montages
I feel like all this conversation has come back to saying wot i said at the start? The absurdity of people citing 'academic' as a good job that even vaguely resembling the nice image you mentioned. And the even greater absurdity of that being above F1 driver or olympic athlete or movie star; the very definitions of which place you at the top of your profession. So that the wistful idea of academia is even more attractive than being an actual movie star.
That's interesting to me because people always ask me if I want to go back to academia one day, and I ask it to myself quite a lot: and I think, no, I don't, because even when you're doing well in academia it's usually still really horrible.
how anyone who'd, say, been to uni could ever want to be an academic is far beyond me
The gap between how you perceive what you desire and how you experience/enjoy things on a minute by minute level, is vast.
She seems to enjoy it very much, with the exception of working through edits.
any authors want to come out of the woodwork?
C'mon, you couldn't work out I was a librarian when I mentioned special libraries? ;-)
*shakes hands with fellow desirable job holder*
so I'll pretend to be all indignant.
"Architecture students are like virgins
with an itch they cannot scratch,
Never build a building till you're 50
what kind of life is that?"
And got paid 50 quid for it. Does that mean I'm an author? I'm also writing my second novel but the first one didn't get published so not sure that counts.
and that includes talking about it to people.
with a man/woman who works in Legoland, making all the little models. Obviously, that is hands down the best job there is? That was his/her entire job role, make Lego stuff. Dream job by anybody's standards. I'd have to go to work in one in like Sweden or Canada though, there's no fucking way I'm moving to Slough.
In the non-pie-in-the-sky sector, being train driver looks like a good time, high-speed one, mind. I'm not driving a dickhead local train.
For fuck's sake.
and I'm sure being a librarian is a pretty cushty gig and head librarians can earn decent money, but why the fuck would loads of people aspire to be librarians. It must be dull as hell. My job is almost certainly even more dull, but at no point did I think 'Oh I'd love to build stuff in a database and do data modelling'
As I said above, I suspect a lot of people are picturing being a librarian as 'getting paid to sit round reading books all day'. (I studied with someone who was doing his degree so he could get a job in a library and spend his time writing a novel).
That said, while it's dull a lot of the time, when it's good it's really interesting: I've got friends working out how to preserve digital content and make it available in the future; I'm a reference librarian and I've worked on some really interesting research topics, including helping people with legal problems.
but I just want to say how awful i100 really is