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Can't say I'm surprised to see this happening. So many parents I've met at work behave like passive-aggressive dickheads with nothing better to do with themselves when it involves their kids.
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unless the invite had terms and conditions of attendance? And even then that can't be binding or anyone could send invites to people and charge them for not turning up.
Yes, I know I've over-thinking this and it's just someone with far too much time on her hands who probably hates her life.
In the absence of contrary terms being made known to you, the clear implication when you issue an invitation to a party is that it will be free to you, whether you go or not.
If I was the parent of the boy I would pay it rather than embarrass myself in the press and the small claims court though.
I have some sympathy for the parents of the child whose party it was- these kind of things can cost a small fortune and if, as they claim, they had made their contact details known, it was downright rude of the parents of the non-attender just to be no-shows.
not to rsvp the non-attendance - although they say they didn't have contact details so maybe it was more a mistake than rudeness?
There would have been some way of them getting in touch with the party holders. I don't buy that at all.
yeah that smells of shite
I sympathise with the parents that wanted money for the party too, but they've gone about it like dicks. if she'd just phoned or whatever, fine I'd send them some money.
but after getting an invoince? fucking no danger. I'd tell her to take it to court just to fuck her off.
That the kid is probably a massive twat so therefore deserves people not turning up to their birthday party
your honour, may I present Exhibit A: the kid's a wee dick
I know you're joking, but it makes my heart sink to hear children described like this. At this age, if they are twatty, it is usually only because they are the (innocent) product of their twatty parents and know no better.
Would be dead funny if this was just some obnoxious little shit who demanded a skiing party at five and then organised the invoice and his parent's were both absolutely sound and couldn't work out why he was such a little knobhead though.
The invoice is hilarious. I think if it was one or two no-shows I woudl 100% let it slide, with mental notwe in fuiutre years to say something on the incitatoni like 'if you are unable to attend, please can you let us know 24 hours in advance so that we may offer the place to another child, or cancel the place and avoid late cancellation fees'.
If there were a handful of no-shows, I think I'd be tempted to call the parents to let them know that as a result of them and five others not turning up without warning, you were forced to cover the cost of their places, which came to nearly a hundred quid all in, and their unexpected absence caused a huge amount of disappointment to the birthday boy. Leave it up to their consciences to decide how best to recompense or apologise (you kind of feel that a bunch of chocs sent into school on the Monday with a sorry note would have avoided all of this). However, some people have absolutely no manners and sending them an invoice to coerce them into a course of action that they should be offering anyway is just silly, as they are hardly going to respond courteously to that either.
Because no one would conclude that there was ever an intention to create legal relations so it doesn't even get to the point of considering what the terms might be.
gonna start invoicing people for not ^thissing my posts
Doesn't seem right somehow.
great country album title
gonna start invoicing people for not ^thissing my posts
japes | 19 Jan '15, 10:32 | ^ This | Reply
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after all, a this from me really lets you know that you've "arrived" at DiS
accept invitations and don't have the decency to contact you when their kids can't come or, as in this case, just change their mind.
Not sure I'd invoice them for it though.
Kind of think fair enough actually, not just a birthday party but a dry ski trip. Bit rude way if going about it but it was a bit rude of the other kids parents not to cancel (no contact details is a cop out) on balance in with the invoices on this
It's going back a few years since i've received a formal invitation to a birthday party, but there's always a space for a contact number on the invite:
If the parents of the birthday boy have gone to the extreme of an invoice, I'd imagine that the absent lad received a formal invite, ergo his parents are talking shite re: no contact details.
Glad not to know any of them.
hibster is Derek Nash.
Spoilt little bastard
but haven't shown people the invite or their RSVP.
You'd have to put more spin on it than that to make the invoicees look like the biggest pricks. And the fact the invoice has the order listed as 'verbal' tells you all you need to know about the RSVP.
looks like (or has been made out to like like) it has been issued by the ski centre, which is oodd.
I think the lesson here is that skiing is for twats and people shouldn't have children.
By this reckoning I'm owed £39 for my son's second birthday and at least a ton from my wedding.
only 3,899 turned up.
it;s brilliant. how despondant, wistful...tired....and yet, the corners of his mouth could turn into a smile at any time. Great stuff.
no idea what the kid is thinking. could be holding in a wee.
to move his woolly hat off the stair post before the press came round taking photos
Just realised she is perched on the stairs to keep out of shot
I love photos of aggrieved families, holding up and pointing to the offending item, and "sadfacing" for all they are worth.
ordered to pay woman £200 compensation after slashing her car tyres"
Well that escalated quickly.
as to the nuances of this fucking sorry affair here- http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/year-old-Plymouth-boy-gets-missing-school-friend/story-25884528-detail/story.html
There's so much bulshit in this. the parents clearly had her contact details at one point so they have either binned or lost the invitation.
Aldo, having accepted the party invitation, why then give the child the option on the day to decide which event he wanted to go to - and if they gave the option on the day, then surely they hadn't, as implied, been actively trying to contact party host to say they couldn't come as they/he hadn't decided yet whether he was going.
The lad looks like a wee imp as well.
"Mr Nash’s partner, who doesn’t want to be named, has been in contact with the mum via Facebook hoping to resolve the situation."
He is definitely, definitely getting a bollocking when she sees this has gone mainstream
over a day at the ski slope.
my grandparents die rather than throwing myself down a ski slope followed by a happy meal.
It was bollocks
I know you're joking, but it makes my heart sink to hear children described like this. At this age, if they are imp-like, it is usually only because they are the (innocent) product of their impy parents and know no better.
imp = cute
twat = bad
Things like this are what sway me back to not having kids... having to deal with both of these types of parents from both sides. Although I'd never say my child was going to something and then bail on it without good excuse.
Hell is other parents etc. etc.
The birthday was at a ski slope thingy - which I can only assume was a '£15 per head' deal, as the Dad in the pic agreed verbally that his son would attend the Mum obviously paid for the kid to go. He didn't go, they didn't give warning, £15 down the drain. I get why Mum is pissed, but tpo go this far is a bit much. A simple "I paid for your kid and it would have been nice for you to have let me know" conversation would have sufficed. Both are dicks.
go play football then get a happy meal you try-hard dickhead
My lad went to a birthday party at Tamworth Snowdome over Christmas and I got to go tobogganing for nowt. It was great.
but what kind of spoilt brat kid dingies a party where you get to go skiing?
I would have been all over that, was lucky if I got to go to the pictures on my birthday.
first time: the night before I wanted to look GREAT so me and my sister did my hair and used gel and stuff cause i had never done that before. I built a head holder out of cusions to make sure that i didn't mess up my hair by moving in my sleep but i did and it was a waste of time. don't remember the party.
second time I went and wore jeans that didn't really let you move very well and i just fell over and got carpet burns. dry ski slops are rubbish. nothing else to add.
those parents in cornwall should charge the plymouth parents a pound by being made to use the bridge though
Apparently the toboggan run thing is quite fun but the slope is crap. Nothing says fun birthday like a fake ski slope overlooking the A38.
Yeah the toboggans pretty good. I was watching YouTube vids of it last week so this news story is a nice surprise
'This is not the first time Alex has not turned up to a party that he has been invited to, either'
'This is not the first time t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶i̶t̶ Alex has not turned up to a party that he has been invited to, either'
why the fuck am I reading this
I also love
Hi Julie, whose party is Alex supposed to have gone to? "
Oh right, that's a child you drop off at school? thought it was a dog, barely even register it mate.
is it ok to publish all these children's full names over this bullshit?
must be a helluva slow news day if this is all over the place. although plenty parents love to get stuck in to things like this.
And that someone has a fucking great job.
the more depressing it gets really. Shame as initially it was quite funny, but it seems like a petty situation got out of hand. I shall look forward to these playground politics in future.
There was a lot of twattishness, but an invoice for £16 put in a schoolbag out-twats the rest by miles. Having a ski slope party for a 5 year old is fairly close behind actually.
I wouldn't have to work again
I could quit my job as a party planner
that the entire nation is discussing a disagreement between two parent about a birthday party, and not just stopping at how weird the invoice is but calmly weighing up both sides.
It probably says something about the internet, or about the global village, or about the state of Britain. No point in trying to work it out- I'm sure a columnist will explain it to me in the weekend papers
now I think every single minor detail has been discussed somewhere in inane detail, plus any possible permutation of how they got in such a situation and what can happen next.
I like the idea of a bitchy Mum clique who *hate* this kid and his parent's "sort" but he had to be invited as he is classmates. Maybe room had to be made by excluding another child (with parents even classier and bitchier - part of some local committee or another) Then the utter GALL of him not to turn up! And despite bickering at the ski slope AND asking to speak to the so called "manager" they still had to pay £15.95. So it is completely reasonable to put an invoice in his bag for this sum. Expect from now one there to be glares and them to be ostracised entirely, while the Dad chuckles to himself about how fucking stupid this whole thing is.
Top read story on BBC news ffs.
this thread has made me laugh a lot
a better social life than you.
was a big enough dick to pretend to sympathise with the parents who sent the letter.
from the pov of sadfaced dad's partner-http://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/2sngcw/a_mother_sent_an_invoice_to_my_son_for_not/
this has taken up the majority of my day
Especially when I've got no work to do.
(super camp, pithy and slightly pantomimey daytime tv show on ITV, for the unitiated. I am so annoyed that rinder beat me to the pitch.)
read that Mumsnet thread about it though. Bloody hell.
I have to
pure carcrash rubbernecking
So much anger from both sides.
Is this what having kids does to people?
can a DiSer go in and fuck shit up plz?
Such reasonable and carefully thought-out posts
I have just realised/discovered/been told that the other kids who went to the party wouldn't have paid. All day I've assumed that everyone paid. I was thinking, "if you have a party where everyone has to pay, you don't just RSVP, you get the money upfront"
Mrs Meat tells me this is not the case.
Wow. So this mental Invoice Mum really is off the chain insane. Suck it up, bint!
and possibly money on drinks / snacks also by this kid not turning up. I would love it if instead of 10 kids at a dry ski slope (5 year olds!) I only had to deal with 9. Ideally more like 2-3. Which are my own. And ideally not on a dry ski slope, maybe a local park.
I always factored in that there may be no-shows, thus I never overbooked and if someone didnt turn up and I had booked something else then there would be one of the invitees siblings that might also be able to join in.......But I tried to never overbook.....If I hadnt booked enough places, I always found that it was possible to add on 1 or two extras at the venue at the time.....when booking the venue you can establish with them that the exact numbers may vary by one or two....check then.
Not being able to attend a party.......fine
Not telling the people who invited you to such a 'venue based' party = non attendee parents being unthoughtful and a bit of a dick.
Issuing bill for said party = a bit more of a dick (unless the non attendees are serial non attendees and have just wound you up to the point where you want to make a point to the parents in which case fair enough, everyone has a breaking point after all)
bit of a storm in a teacup really.
Id be interested to know how poor/rich both sets of parents are really.......dependant on that, it could be that either or both sets of parents are extreme dicks for the escalation that has involved their children (although providing them with interesting humourous anecdotes when they are much older and have got over it)
because they merely stumbled across it. Sadfaced dad went to them about it, behind his partner's back and much to her horror it seems.
Invoice mum sounds passive aggressive and petty, sadfaced dad doesn't seem terribly bright. it terrifies me that either of these emotionally immature people are put in charge of raising children. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.
like i say, both sides are bit of dicks cos of involving children like that (I mean presumably the children were freinds, maybe they still are, but both parental sides have jeopardised that now)
When I said the 'press got hold of it' I wasnt trying to say that they were being nefarious, I thought that a parent had gone to media.....I was more using that more as a reference to the escalatory dramastorm that results of that.
Yeah of course they should have thought of the children, its a matter between the parents, they should have dealt with it between themselves.
that I definitely would or probably have done in the past, casually agreed to go to a party or do something with my boy then never given it another thought.
I think this type of organisational aptitude might be a male thing, although I accept probably #notallmen
my rule is ALWAYS defer to Mrs Meat when making arrangements. sometimes I forget.
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I would like to add something to that (for disers who are parents)
Whenever you go to a laser quest type thing for childs party, request the venue do something to slightly assist the birthday child (like dont register hits on their shoulder or weapon sensors....the idea isnt to make them winning inevitable, but you definately dont want them coming last) I would request this for any children for their first time(or who erent very good at it) whose birthday it was.
(the good thing about being thoughtful like this is that it also makes you feel like a superior parent/benign god)
this is up there with finding out about santa
but you're old enough now
(I wouldnt bother with groups of experianced lazer questers,,,,they can take the truth, also they might notice the lack of shoulder or weopon hits on the score sheets...)