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this'll be irritating as fuck
I've got no ability to take cringe at all, QT is like being bummed to death with a thousand red hot knives
it's been pish for years now though, it's a bit of a joke really, int it?!
Especially as I thought that said Reg Hollis for a minute...
and work have given me two bottles of wine cause it's my last day of the year. Might just sit in front of this and get smashed.
I'm not sure I can trust myself not to watch this
where they discuss immigration.
none of the questions were about immigration, and Farage just had to sit there?
than the absolute hell of sitting through the programme itself.
But seriously... Dimbleby is proper shit.
then someone in the crowd started yelling at someone else in the crowd, switched over.
Russell Brand seemed really, really ill prepared. If Farage clowns you, it's probably time to reassess. Some complete idiots in the audience too. Not sure why I sat through it tbh.
It seemed that he had tried desperately to prepare, but in the end it was beyond him.
e.g. when Dimbleby threw to him for the first response on the grammar school question and he basically had to say he didn't really know what they were and started mumbling about tuition fees instead.
was yet an another example of avoiding the major education issues (of which tuition fees are one) and instead focussing on something very minor - albeit relevant to Kent.
one of his replies and was feeling embarrised on his behalf, but when he finished it got the biggest most heartfelt cheer from the audiance of the night.....so what do I know.
I think that Farage enjoyed himself best (I actually laughed when he commented to brand....."you should stand for parliament, you've got a lot a lot of support, and what lovely people they are" because he was referring to a dyed haired shouty interupty woman (not saying shes wrong....but she looked wrong and rude to a lot ofother people) Farage knows his market place and he is skilled at maximising his potential.
After Farage, Brand (despite my having to curl my toes at some ofit) came out best (along with the Times writer woman)
the labour mp woman came near the bottom, but the tory mp woman was at the bottom, as all she did was stick to the party line and boringly re-iterate how there were some fine dedicated politicians (when the major point of the night was, that the public are disillusioned with lab/lib/con party behaviour......i.e. she did not adress this at all)
Best person of the night though was a person in the audiance who said that the most depressing thing is that everything they are going to say is entirely predictable........and then the panel and audiance proceeded to prove him right as they trotted out an entirely predictable panto.........wemight well have shouted out "oh no it isnt" or "Itsbehind you"
Brand, when pressed, immediately did a U-turn on telling people to not vote. He was so far out of his depth that Farage just seemed, well, exactly like he wants to - the only sane "normal bloke" there. And of course that is why he is doing so well. His whole thing is built on pointing out what we all know which is that the mainstream parties are all the same, then sitting back and letting thick people conclude that he must therefore be the answer.
I think Farage is the only one who understands this fully, and no doubt punched the air in triumph afterwards, I could see last night, how he captures ordinary (thick? sounds horrible (although I use it too) people, who are teetering cos other stuff seems shitter to them..
Brand is not yet sophisticated enough to deal with questioners, like the young lad who tried to say that 'with immigration it is the poor people at the bottom who are suffering' but he said it in a way that made you think he honestly wasnt particularly racist, just that he was unable to see how it is part of a whole and that the immigrants/jobs issue is only the bit that he can see....Brand (being an emotional person) was trying to express empathy with the guy, but was not able to convince him otherwise (he was miles from it)...this is because Brand is not experianced or seasoned as a politician and he probably doesnt want to be.
The other thing is that Brand and Farage are so much more famous the other panelists, and the two women mps obviousy hate that those two were there (I think the times woman seemed to actually have the most background knowledge of all the panellists and so wasnt threatened by them) whereas the mps political discussion games rules were under threat and they both ended up looking quite lightweight. Bizarrely the following AndrewNeils program had more debate than question time
*cant remember if he actually ever posted here or just knows lots of people who did/do
It's pointless trying to call him out. Better to just speak utterly plainly. In theory, Labour should be able to put their 'we're internationalists' angle front and centre and seize the high moral ground (which they tried, unconvincingly, during the independence referendum), but they're too busy chasing soft Tory voters rather than engaging lost Labour votes and never-have-voteds. It's a fucking pathetic sight to behold.
but his intentions always seem good. He ought to step back from the "don't vote" thing and use his status more to do the kind of damage it dealt Farage last night. The Pound Shop Enoch Powell jibe was a nice blow, you could see on Farage's face he didn't like it. Brand is a showman and it's weird that folk forget this. He represents his generation, damage and all oddly well.