Spoke to somebody today who knows some of those involved and from what she says, it seems like it went-
Science man: *wears inappropriate and offensive shirt by anyone's standards*
Commentators: that is not only a horrid shirt but inappropriate for you to wear on a public platform, representing the Science People, especially given the significant equality issues faced by women in Science
Science Man: woah, I'm a bit of a geeky doofus, you should see the rest of my wardrobe! but Sorry, really sorry, that was stupid of me, I honestly never thought....
Commentators: no worries, thanks for taking it on board and being a sport about it.
Thick cunts on twitter: OMG Feminazis made the science guy cry!!!!11
xylopwn summed it up fairly neatly IMO
- introvert definition of socially unaware man wears crap shirt with women on it
- people point out it's not exactly the best choice for a man of science to be giving off that vibe
- he apologises immediately, and profusely.
- End.
But it got turned into the usual "it's PC GONE MAD I TELLS YOU" bollocks by shit newspapers and shittier facebook posters.
so it came up on my newsfeed, and the comments beneath it (don't know if they were her friends or just randoms) were horrific. One person said: "I'd go so far as to say he's the victim here", then the neckbeard below her wrote: "I would go so far as to say feminism is the same as jihad". I was heading out the door so didn't get a chance to comment myself, but have been coming up with cutting responses all day (what is the etiquette on posting on the comments of people you don't know?)
I am THAT person who pulls up friends of friends on friends' threads on FB (it's one of the reasons I don't go on fb all that much any more. I get into too much trouble.) I weighed in at the weekend when somebody said that No voters should have been banned from going to watch Scotland play Ireland, and that only Yes voters are entitled to sing Flower of Scotland (because of the lyric 'and we can still rise now and be a nation again', which I can see has some degree of logic, although it is inane to be so literal, and so stupid, and arrogant to dismiss all no voters as anti-Scottish.)
Anyway, unless they are friends of your fiancée I'd say Get Involved.
if you believe certain stats, there was a correlation between religion and voting in the referendum, with a higher % of Yes voters being catholic rather than protestant, and a similar proportion in inverse for the No voters. by that logic, tere were a lot of Scotland fans at Celtic park feeling conflicted about their irish allgiances at the weekend.
never quite thought of it that way until now, such a load of bloody nonsense sometimes, this country of mine.
where they compare debating politics in real life and on the internet, the latter resulting in an all out war with people firing weapons and yelling at each other.
Basically it's a shame people can't make points about sexism any more without things spiraling into chaos.
and would have been equally inappropriate for somebody representing a significant body of people on the world stage to wear.
It's just dead good that he was pulled up in a rational way, was open to the criticism, everyone fistbumped and went on their way, and the attendant histrionics has just been whipped up by some very silly people on social media.
but yeah by all accounts it sounds like he's dealt with it reasonably well.
I guess my point is that there must be loads of famous, influential people (not necessary scientific or academic people) who have been photographed wearing those sorts of T-shirts, with little response. More a point about how some things can be so commonplace that they can pass without comment (even if they're equally inappropriate)
between wearing something with that kind of design to work or wearing it to the beach or your local. Not that it *should* necessarily be more socially acceptable as everyday wear.
it's not just wearing it to work. it's like, this is possibly the culmination of this guy's (and those on his team's) life work. The world's eyes are on you, it's not just something you throw on to wear on a hungover Friday morning that you're hoping to slink through. This is like turning up to graduation in a bikini.
I think the woman ended up with a 1st in 'cocksucking' but had to do extra modules to make up her lacking grades in 'Anal'. She seemed very eager and I think the professors gave her full honours in the end.
I feel sorry for him, mainly because I think he was genuinely annoyed at HIMSELF for being so thoughtless and upsetting people, not because he has been pulled up about it and made to look like a bit of a dumpling. I believe he is genuinely remorseful.
the people going FUCKING FEMINAZIS about this story are simultaneously going HE'S A WONDERFUL GENIUS HOW DARE YOU TREAT HIM LIKE THIS and HE HAS NO RIGHT TO CONSIDER THE SHIRT IN RETROSPECT TO BE STUPID
Mentioned briefly
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4452793#r8371363
ah, thank you
I had missed that.
Spoke to somebody today who knows some of those involved and from what she says, it seems like it went-
Science man: *wears inappropriate and offensive shirt by anyone's standards*
Commentators: that is not only a horrid shirt but inappropriate for you to wear on a public platform, representing the Science People, especially given the significant equality issues faced by women in Science
Science Man: woah, I'm a bit of a geeky doofus, you should see the rest of my wardrobe! but Sorry, really sorry, that was stupid of me, I honestly never thought....
Commentators: no worries, thanks for taking it on board and being a sport about it.
Thick cunts on twitter: OMG Feminazis made the science guy cry!!!!11
completely this
You caudron stirring wee witch!
;)
That's: Ms
Hadron Colliding Wee Witch to you, EMO ;)
dammit
Done myself there!
<3
do you reckon you could throw a 3-pin plug with such force and accuracy
that it went straight into a socket?
done it before
twice.
fuck off
*thrice
you need to wake up and accept the fact you've never
thrown a plug in to a socket. NEVER.
You can't go on with this charade any longer.
don't make me :'(
it's for your own good
DD popped it in the feminist article share thread
xylopwn summed it up fairly neatly IMO
- introvert definition of socially unaware man wears crap shirt with women on it
- people point out it's not exactly the best choice for a man of science to be giving off that vibe
- he apologises immediately, and profusely.
- End.
But it got turned into the usual "it's PC GONE MAD I TELLS YOU" bollocks by shit newspapers and shittier facebook posters.
ah yes
and this is as backed up by science friends (with Vags) who agree with this description of the events.
Not to mention
People on Twitter mentioning it and getting the usual 'lol ugly bitch you should be raped' responses
hate that
it's so disproportionate as a response, and sign of a really slow brain.
They should send HIM to the comet.
and do a performance of their classic album 'Love Metal' in full
A Facebook friend liked a news story about this,
so it came up on my newsfeed, and the comments beneath it (don't know if they were her friends or just randoms) were horrific. One person said: "I'd go so far as to say he's the victim here", then the neckbeard below her wrote: "I would go so far as to say feminism is the same as jihad". I was heading out the door so didn't get a chance to comment myself, but have been coming up with cutting responses all day (what is the etiquette on posting on the comments of people you don't know?)
oh don't hold back
I am THAT person who pulls up friends of friends on friends' threads on FB (it's one of the reasons I don't go on fb all that much any more. I get into too much trouble.) I weighed in at the weekend when somebody said that No voters should have been banned from going to watch Scotland play Ireland, and that only Yes voters are entitled to sing Flower of Scotland (because of the lyric 'and we can still rise now and be a nation again', which I can see has some degree of logic, although it is inane to be so literal, and so stupid, and arrogant to dismiss all no voters as anti-Scottish.)
Anyway, unless they are friends of your fiancée I'd say Get Involved.
also
if you believe certain stats, there was a correlation between religion and voting in the referendum, with a higher % of Yes voters being catholic rather than protestant, and a similar proportion in inverse for the No voters. by that logic, tere were a lot of Scotland fans at Celtic park feeling conflicted about their irish allgiances at the weekend.
never quite thought of it that way until now, such a load of bloody nonsense sometimes, this country of mine.
Love how much this has riled :D
Do enjoy seeing a rilee giving their riposte SIGNIFICANTLY more thought than the riler gave their initial bants.
I'm a Yes-voting
Scotland-supporting half Irish celtic fan as well!!!
Didn't realise you voted Yes.
At least
one of my votes was Yes :)
I absolutely ripped someone in the boozer on Saturday
who assumed that as a lifelong tim I'd have been supporting ireland on Friday night, small-minded arsewipes
I like these powder-keg sexism threads
Can we have some more personal score-settling sub threads like in that one last week?
the entire thing kind of reminds me of that red vs. blue episode
where they compare debating politics in real life and on the internet, the latter resulting in an all out war with people firing weapons and yelling at each other.
Basically it's a shame people can't make points about sexism any more without things spiraling into chaos.
Those t-shirts people wear with instagrammy-filtered pictures of glamour models on them
they're ten-a-penny aren't they?
I mean, they're shit and sexist, but the only real difference between them and this guy's shirt is that this guy's shirt is louder.
of course
and would have been equally inappropriate for somebody representing a significant body of people on the world stage to wear.
It's just dead good that he was pulled up in a rational way, was open to the criticism, everyone fistbumped and went on their way, and the attendant histrionics has just been whipped up by some very silly people on social media.
I didn't know about the story until this thread
but yeah by all accounts it sounds like he's dealt with it reasonably well.
I guess my point is that there must be loads of famous, influential people (not necessary scientific or academic people) who have been photographed wearing those sorts of T-shirts, with little response. More a point about how some things can be so commonplace that they can pass without comment (even if they're equally inappropriate)
Well... I do think there's a difference (no matter how small)
between wearing something with that kind of design to work or wearing it to the beach or your local. Not that it *should* necessarily be more socially acceptable as everyday wear.
I was more thinking of, say
Actors or TV presenters being photographed / interviewed in such shirts.
yeah
it's not just wearing it to work. it's like, this is possibly the culmination of this guy's (and those on his team's) life work. The world's eyes are on you, it's not just something you throw on to wear on a hungover Friday morning that you're hoping to slink through. This is like turning up to graduation in a bikini.
(guess who turned up to graduation in a bikini)
I saw a video like that once
I think the woman ended up with a 1st in 'cocksucking' but had to do extra modules to make up her lacking grades in 'Anal'. She seemed very eager and I think the professors gave her full honours in the end.
Surprised xylopwn could keep you in a headlock for that long tbh
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4455988#r8356657
Hmmmm, tenuous
I'll allow it, just.
yeah fair point
Man in the pub was really riled about this
Felt really sorry for the guy as he was obviously well upset about it and its pretty much ruined his lifes work.
He'll be crying all the way to
Buckingham Palace to get his knighthood though
oh yeah
I feel sorry for him, mainly because I think he was genuinely annoyed at HIMSELF for being so thoughtless and upsetting people, not because he has been pulled up about it and made to look like a bit of a dumpling. I believe he is genuinely remorseful.
i was browsing primark at the weekend
there were loads of sexist shirts with models on them. mental.
also, what's the deal with the fucking t shirts with random photos of places on the west coast? who the fuck would wear a tee shirt like that
What
like Carlisle?
gourock, wemyss bay, oban, inverary etc
not seen these yet
but given that those towns are my weekend stomping ground, I WANT (for my old boy.) Where have you seen these?
:D
Everyone's spellcheck has gone mental i think
It's a sexy shirt not a sexist one.
my gash
was more gish than gush, I have to say.
alright Billy Corgan
Can't believe the content of this thread
on International Men's Day of all days!
srs point
the people going FUCKING FEMINAZIS about this story are simultaneously going HE'S A WONDERFUL GENIUS HOW DARE YOU TREAT HIM LIKE THIS and HE HAS NO RIGHT TO CONSIDER THE SHIRT IN RETROSPECT TO BE STUPID
it appears
that the right to be up in arms/ outraged only applies one-way.
Easier to count the non-shitcunts on here nowadays.
someeeeone has some cartoon babe shirts?
*non-shirtcunts