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Ways in which the EU is terrible for Britain

sharp_yet_blunt [Edit] [Delete] 25 replies 11:50, 3 November '14

what you got? Cant fathom why so many people have built up this massive aversion to it. Is it all just immigration?

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  • Anti-monopoly laws

    Erm...not needing a visa to go to Europe, can't think of many others. Did a couple of years of EU law at uni and still struggle to remember what it is they actually do.

    Steved | 3 Nov '14, 11:52 | X
    • Oh hang on, this thread's for bad stuff they do

      I can't think of any, mostly because I can't remember but I have a sneaking suspicion that they're a pretty benign bunch.

      Steved @Steved | 3 Nov '14, 11:55 | X
  • french guy in st pancras looked at me funny once

    fidel_catstro | 3 Nov '14, 11:54 | X
  • Those pesky human rights laws

    Can't believe we've managed to find ourselves in a place where the majority agree that humans having rights enshrined in law is definitely A Bad Thing.

    colossalhorse | 3 Nov '14, 11:55 | X
    Epimer and NickDS this'd this
    • The weirdest thing about that is

      if you ask the British public about each right individually, they're overwhelmingly in favour of them all: http://www.comres.co.uk/poll/541/liberty-human-rights-poll-october-2011.htm

      But if you bundle them up under the phrase "Human Rights" they turn against them: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130224/Human-rights-laws-charter-criminals-say-75-Britons.html

      It's a really incredible example of how poisonous tabloid rhetoric can be.

      umlaut_ampersand @colossalhorse | 3 Nov '14, 12:00 | X
  • They tried to ban abnormally curved bananas.

    That cant be good can it,

    olson | 3 Nov '14, 11:58 | X
    • or bent cucumbers.

      olson @olson | 3 Nov '14, 12:15 | X
  • Directly responsible for Nigel Farage in his current human guise

    nebbie | 3 Nov '14, 11:58 | X
  • not my opinion but dont they usually say

    that Britain is propping up other poorer nations. So being prosperous doesn't benefit Britain as much as it should.
    Also we have to follow EU laws & regs, when we should be following our laws & regs.
    Plus the way the EU works is very expensive and there should be a cheaper alternative to do what theyre currently doing.
    And they took our jobs.

    Matt_was_taken | 3 Nov '14, 11:58 | X
    • "We should be following our laws & regs"

      *Citation needed.

      There are two reasons why life in the UK is increasingly governed by laws set within the EU (all of which will have the approval -direct or tacit - of our the UK government at the time anyway), and these are standardisation of things like Health & Safety and consumer and worker protection (which actually protects jobs in the countries with a higher standard of living, reducing differences in labour costs), and the fact that our parliament has become so enthralled to the neo-liberal narrative that it has become paralysed and unable to enact progressive legislation on things like environmental standards.

      marckee @Matt_was_taken | 3 Nov '14, 12:07 | X
  • something about THEM deciding OUR LAWS

    ??

    noise_ramones | 3 Nov '14, 12:00 | X
    • FUCK 'EM AND THEIR (OUR) LAW

      p_a_u_l @noise_ramones | 3 Nov '14, 12:01 | X
      Matt_was_taken this'd this
  • This is where I struggle a bit

    The lazy media narrative of blaming everything on the EU is silly and all, but what SPECIFICALLY do they hate so much about it?

    As far as I can see, migration to and from the EU is financially beneficial for the UK...

    valenci | 3 Nov '14, 12:00 | X
  • TTIP

    marckee | 3 Nov '14, 12:01 | X
    j0hn, TheWza, p_a_u_l, and umlaut_ampersand this'd this
    • Without a doubt

      cant help but feel the UK outside the EU would come up with an even worse agreement with the devil.

      sharp_yet_blunt @marckee | 3 Nov '14, 12:16 | X
      • Oh, I don't dispute that.

        It's the secrecy that's infuriating. If it wasn't there, I doubt public opinion in Europe would allow it to be carried.

        marckee @sharp_yet_blunt | 3 Nov '14, 12:24 | X
  • The European Arrest Warrant can be pretty fucking dodgy:

    http://www.fairtrials.org/publications/policy-and-campaigns/a-letter-from-frank-symeou-on-the-european-arrest-warrant/

    umlaut_ampersand | 3 Nov '14, 12:02 | X
  • TTIP

    alcxxk | 3 Nov '14, 12:04 | X
  • TITP

    justanothersheeldz | 3 Nov '14, 12:12 | X
  • TITS

    sadpunk | 3 Nov '14, 12:28 | X
    • What are you talking about?

      Without the EU there wouldn't have been Eurotrash.

      marckee @sadpunk | 3 Nov '14, 12:30 | X
  • TTIP: ITT

    TheWza | 3 Nov '14, 12:39 | X
  • The EU impose volume caps on portable music players

    which means I was recently forced to import one from Japan that had adequate volume available for listening to music.

    Needless hassle, nanny-state laws, and my £260 went to Japan instead of the UK economy.

    Fuzzy_Dunlop | 3 Nov '14, 12:52 | X
    • Your ears must be fucked.

      marckee @Fuzzy_Dunlop | 3 Nov '14, 12:55 | X
      colinzealuk and monoshono this'd this
  • The EU is really just an economic institution

    As such it'll never be able to actually change anything for the better, or if it does it'll just be a happy coincidence that it complies with globalisation and capital.
    Its not as if more democratic institutions could do any better tbf, if the UK had more autonomy it would've been all TTIP'd with america long ago IMO.

    RFWare | 3 Nov '14, 12:58 | X
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