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Australasia's not a thing is it?
If so, that's great banter!
but only if it contains the whole of Asia as well...like Eurasia.
How does Oceania figure into all of this?
A little something to make me sweeter
Name of the continent it's a part of?
The region it sits within is Australasia
a continent is a kind of region...and it's the name of that kind of region I'm after. We've already established upthread that Australasia isn't the correct term, but it might be used to refer to a larger region incorporating Asia as well. The country in question is Australia. So basically I'm looking for the name of the region which is bigger than the single nation of Australia but smaller than Australasia.
what's the continent?
although this is obviously not a 'continent' if you take continent to mean 'continental land mass', but the fact that there is the term 'continental land masss' implies that some people think that the qualifier of 'land mass' is required.
Alas, language is not a precise art, as different people mean different things by the same word, so here it is up to your definition of the word continent, and people will have differing meanings to it.
Of course it could make more sense and more easily defined exactly, if we considered tecktonic plates (o meat, like neil off inbetweeners), but then it would be more difficult for most people.
Australasia and Oceana...which one is it?
I mean I've already ruled out Australasia upthread, but if you disagree with that you're welcome to explain why.
the issue is really an entyomological one, due to australia having some of the most poisonous insects
Or, more formally, 'Straya, mate!'
when you don't know the answer to a simple question.
both the name of the country and the continent the country is part of. Like When MJ done Thriller the album and Thriller the song. It's all Thriller.
but it's fairly common to name an album after one of its tracks.
Countries and continents are mutually exclusive ideas, however, and I know for sure Australia is a country. There are other countries in the region which I thought might be in the same continent as Australia but you're saying that Australia is a country and a continent, which doesn't seem to make any sense at all. What continent's New Zealand in for example?
as horror looks you right between the eyes, you're paralysed!
Come on, that's basic primary school geography!
on Red Amber Green
still that makes it today's most popular thread on drownedinsound.com, aside from the day thread and quiz.
What other options are there?
is in Oceania.
so how can a continent be in a continent? And how can a country (Australia) be a continent?
so everyone who's posted in it.
they do not have precise meaning.
As their meaning varies according to usage.
Only in things like law of contract are some words and phrases determined to have a precise meaning and interpretation and contract law admits that a lot of wording is meaningless if it is not precise and certain, and subsequently disregards some wording from some contracts as being uninforcable as the wording is too vague or its meaning is too subjective.
Things like the OED attempt to provide definitions, and this can be used as an 'agreed basis for delimitation' in some enclosed sphere of activity (like games)......BUT the OED does not own the definition of the meaning of words, it is more of a catalogue of usage....it can be used to provide clarity when two parties agree its use in arbitration, but it does not provide all valid usage.
Humans own language after all, not keepers of the scrolls.
As I said, humans can often agree to use the keepers of the scrolls as arbitrators.
I notice much confusion arise from this sort of thing.
Myself, as a 'watcher of the trees'(witch), come into conflict with 'the keepers of the scrolls/stones'(druids etc) on occassions over definitions and 'certainties that are recorded(yet not certain)'.
is in the geographical classification demarcation of 'Australia and Oceana'
the constituant islands that make up Australasia are also in 'Australia and Oceana'
bom bom (thanks raantaals)
Creakyknees on the other hand is going on about "Australasia and Oceana", which I don't think is right.
in that he might agree that it is a question of etymologly that is not precisely defined anywhere that is agreed by everyone, that there is no definitive ruling on this, that it is variable and it is best to be sensitive an politic on this, that the definition of continent may mean huge land mass in some circumstances, and yet also does not always mean this as it also can include islands, and so it is sometimes just a grouping.
Its interesting to look at the Euro notes and notice that the map of Europe includes French Guyana.
The names of the continents are used to refer to both physicality and political aspects, and these do not precisely mesh.
The precise way you could do physical geography would be to use tectonic plates, but that would confuse most people.
where/what exactly are 'the podes'
but often it gets included in Asia which pisses off the Aussies
and different sources are used by different people/countries.
A continent is not strictly defined......obviously you have hit on the manner in which its apparent definitions seem to be at odds (or inconsistant).
There is no 'go to' reference which strictly defines.
e.g. the UN would be aware of the political sensitivity of attempting to define (for example) The Marshall Islands or Samoa as being in 'Australia' and would refer to it being in Oceana or 'Australia and Oceana'.......however in the 'good-ole-USof A' the CIA have no qualms about classifying them in Australia.
(actually the UN divides the world up into about 20 smaller regions for comparrisons, they recognise that the term 'continent' is a bit iffy.....but given the way that people speak is different from statistical analysis subdivisions, they would encourage sensitivity of words)
Small island countries that want their identities would mostly self refer as being part of oceana, and it would seem to make little verbal descriptive meaning sense to refer to the large land mass of australia as 'oceana'.
Therefore (given that mostly 7 continents are referred to (rather than 8)
it would seem most politic to refer to australia and samoa as both being in 'Australia and Oceana'
- "No mayte...that's...eurgh..."
for instance, what would you say about Greenland?
Politically it is in Europe (like French Guyana)
when its not appropriate.
'Classification' should be a human tool and aid, not our master.
Those that insist otherwise are going down a Nazi-ish path
I'll stick with that.
If in doubt, consult FIFA.
India 2 - 2 Greenland
"Australia and Oceana"
Somebody has already told you the answer, and given rational detail behind that and the issues that make it the most controversial of continents.
Now go and make a cup of tea.
Maybe you can tell me what Oceana, a UK chain of nightclubs, has to do with this?