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one of the former Soviet Republics?
doesn't know enough about them.
I don't think DD was being serious either.
how many ways those two things are different. I can do it if you really need me to. Or you can spend a few moments trying to work it out for yourself. Which would you prefer?
It's just disappointing that you feel ok making biphobic jokes, really.
By many definitions of the word, I could easily be described as bisexual myself. I choose to identify as gay to make my life easier, but close friends understand I do have a degree of sexual attraction to women. Nowhere the level I do for men, but enough that a lot of people would class me as bisexual.
Making comments lampooning ridiculous attitudes to bisexuality isn't really the same thing as 'making biphobic jokes'. The intended target of the joke in all the above comments is people who might believe things like that. It's quite a common format of joking about serious issues.
Anyone who regularly reads DiS knows both DD and I are actively involved in LGBT rights. So it's probably safe to assume the tone of the above exchange isn't genuinely biphobic.
In the thread you link to, the object of the joke (certainly from the posters in the thread) seemed very clearly to me to be that teenage 'putting the word gay in front of things is funny' stuff that I know from my own personal experience and the experiences of many of my gay, lesbian and bisexual friends can have pretty far-reaching consequences in terms of normalising the idea that homosexuality is inherently funny. With the benefit of hindsight, I think that kind of pervasive homophobic subtext when I was growing up was a big part of why I found it so hard to come to terms with my sexuality. So when people make comments that strike me very much as being that kind of 'hur hur hur' anti-gay stuff, and you get to know it when you heard it when it has such a big impact on you, I may take it a little more personally than others and get a bit offended.
If anyone took offence at my comments above, I apologise. Rest assured it was coming from a place of bisexual solidarity.
I'm loathe to pick apart some off-hand comments in such a way, but there you are. Hope that clears things up for you.
if my post in that thread offended you I would like to apologise
It was the general tone rather than any specific posts. I probably make lots of similar comments without realising how they might feel to people directly affected. Appreciate the gesture though. :)
i thought the twitter thing he quite reasonably didn't like, as a gay person, was a comment on how it shouldn't be 'gay marriage'. like people don't go out for a 'gay meal' or like be like yeah me and my partner were just enjoying a 'gay kiss' or something.
can you not understand why it can sometimes be kinda annoying when straight people co-opt stuff that only really works when it's lgbt people doing it? given that until recently, it was completely acceptable to use the word gay pejoratively, i don't think it's really at all unreasonable for gay people to be a bit iffy about a bunch of straight people using the word in new and 'subversive' ways. anyway i'm not really sure what you think you're doing looking up what he's said previously about something totally different. can only imagine you were butting in on the conversation to make yourself feel superior, as you do with feminism.
and lol obviously bisexual guys are no more or less likely to pee sitting down. sorry for any other bi people who have experienced oppression from people mistakenly assuming you pee sitting down.
the rest of you have been splendid x
but I'm going to take this as a compliment nonetheless
certain only a tiny minority of people on dis are out as lgbt/queer.
read back the thread you've just had a go at pegfeet over and he highlights that its the way the twitter account is being used (including on dis) that he doesnt like:
It's still going to be used for that. See: this thread. "
about going for cheap laughs by slamming groups he's not part of. It's lovely that your bisexual I guess, but I'm not sure that means you're free to give whoever a pass on this. That's the exact MO of #notyourshield, pretty gross tbqh.
(also: please don't start following me round this site pulling my pigtails again, it was embarrassing enough the first time.)
:DDDD most patronizing thing i've read on here in quite a while.
when have i even suggested that i get to "give whoever a pass on this". i'm not defending pegfeet's "joke" about being scared of bi people. i'm taking issue with you being unfair and snarky towards one of the few out lgbt people on this site, about an lgbt issue.
and if you don't like being embarrassed you should stop going about co-opting other people's liberation struggles just to get one up on other people.
'and lol obviously bisexual guys are no more or less likely to pee sitting down. sorry for any other bi people who have experienced oppression from people mistakenly assuming you pee sitting down. '
You could argue that to any intelligent, open minded person it's obvious, just like it's obvious that gay marriage isn't causing floods or is a gateway to incest or beastiality, that doesn't make the statement less offensive?
have made jokes about causing floods over the past few months. Nobody has taken any offence, because it's obviously a joke. As DD is bisexual, there's really no difference.
I also put:
I'd also like to point out that my original post was intended as more tongue in cheek than a serious 'calling someone out for biphobia'.
I have nothing but respect for DD's attitude and not shying away from calling out problematic posts seen here, as well.
and I have nothing but respect for DD and the way she doesn't shy away from pointing out problematic posts and general issues here, and I am sure elsewhere.
to think they would know it was obviously absurd?
either way, i'm sorry to anyone who has ever experienced biphobia and was offended by it or thinks it promotes biphobia.
to anyone who doesnt have first hand knowledge about it, and was offended, i hope you consider that humour is a really important tool for dealing with how shit some stuff in society is. and it's quite important that oppressed groups like women, lgbtq people, poeple of colour, disabled people etc. have the freedom to make their own humour, even if it doesnt please everyone all the time.
it's one of the better ones.
knowing the context and your character (loosely) I was not being entirely serious myself, I only followed up with that second point because I found it an interesting way of dismissing it and that to me was more problematic than the actual post itself, if that makes sense - even though I agree RE: humour as a freedom and coping mechanism.
though, what I'm finding recently - and actually called someone out for it, is when people use the humour as an insult - as in when a girl says to a guy they run like a girl. What are your views on this? Genuine question. (not sure if I have made any sense)
Only 48% of people fuck on their wedding night nowadays
nobody has managed to put a saddle on this untameable bronco.
*starts search for new job*
chances are it's not going to be your first time with each other and by the time you've got round to getting married the novelties probably worn off by then.
A whole exhausting day of cake and booze isn't exactly conducive to a night of steamy hot passion.
Would've had it down at around 20%
or Fuck First
Then get married.
a gap built into the day where the couple are able to have some time to themselves (i.e., bone). My mates went to a wedding in Alabama where the couple had this, apparently it was very odd, everyone was nudging and winking and saying how they'd see the couple at dinner... sounds well creepy.
are all potentially going to be at your wedding. And you're off to go have sex and they know it...bit weird.
But don't think it's really necessary to watch it on the night of your wedding.
didn't Theo once buy - then start a thread on - those little platforms that align your colon correctly when sitting on the toilet?
Although no one who thought it for longer than a few years as a kid.
I told them all to never never ever tell anyone they thought this. This guy is a complete idiot.
It's not like you ever tend to watch other men on the toilet and you never discuss it, so it would be possible to get that impression for a bit. I find the idea of someone getting beyond the age of, say, 15, and not working it out very very dubious.
Remember the original "do you wipe your bum standing or sitting down thread"?
that about 50% of 'news' these days is people reporting stuff that they've read on Reddit.
No sources, no research. Literally just rehashing crap that people write for shits and giggles on a forum.
just books :(
"Guy thinks girl is coming on to him after getting slices of apple with jam on."
Somehow missed this.
The "Reddit>Twitter>Guardian>Facebook>Daily Mail>Metro>e-mails-from-your-parents" news cycle is just replacing the nudge-nudge deals struck in boozers between hacks and publicists where there wasn't the right to reply or any way of establishing a story's veracity. At least the internet offers that.
"Some girl you don't care about did something that isn't true!" style stories back in the day? I don't remember them... apart from in the Sport.
It opened up and the woman in it was urinating in the sink, horrible like, she shouted out 'Why dinnae ye tak ah focking picture, it lahst longer yah conts' There was a tourist couple who were either too scared or stupid to know she was joking and started taking picture with one of those long lensed cameras. This made the woman start laughing and she started doing all these weird 'porno' poses with her lady bit. I got off the train so not sure how it ended.
Can't we just stop and appreciate how grim it would be to do this
I mean my lower layer is pretty much fair game for whatever needs expelling
getting offended at someone saying bisexual people pee sitting down
(apparently anyway) until it was pointed out this was wrong at 18 or so. It did make me think though that from the time you are toilet trained, you essentially are left to fend for yourself in toilets. It is done in private ane then not talked about from such an early age, I can't remember anyone wiping my arse for example, so we have all formed our own methods. I am surprised this isn't more common, or people sit straddling the toilet facing the cistern or something.
surely the thought process is:
1. To fulfil this bodily function with the facilities provided I need to sit down.
2. There is a seat.
3. Comfort and successful operation achieved.
by the number of warnings / jokes / debates about tolilet seat putting down or leaving up.
An example is the jokes about men not putting the toilet seat down. I used to think that women wanted men to put the whole lot down, as in the lid and all, presumably for some kind of hygiene or aesthetic reason. I could kind of understand that. The reality was that they wanted just the seat put down to make it convenient for them to take a piss! Now that is taking the piss, fuck that.
and assumed in that scenario we are talking about standard western toilets.
I've PMd you a question
you realise that you have no idea how other people go about these things. They should be taught in schools.
In NZ primary schools there's a module called "Life Skills" that is taught along with maths and science et al. which occasionally throws up some weird stuff. Like the spectacle of our teacher standing up in front of the class to demonstrate wiping her arse while repeating the mantra FRONT.... TO BACK! FRONT.... TO BACK! FRONT.... TO BACK!
Obviously the entire class exploded with laughter and spent the rest of the day chanting the same thing over and over.