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Airs on the 12th october in the us of states.
4 was infinitely better than 3. Finally caught up on all the comics too omg
I BELIEVE IN RICK GRIMES <3
Carol is seriously badass.
Who was the guy in the mask at the end? the guy Rick left in that town right at the beginning?
or maybe the one before that, living in a house somewhere on his tod with writing on the walls, he'd gone insane. can't remember if they talked him out of being insane before they left him on his tod again.
Didn't they go back to find him deliberately, see how he was getting on? He seems to have turned out ok....good mask. Guess they must have talked him round.
Is Jericho another tv programme?
set in a small town in Kansas and how it deals with a massive nuclear terrorist attack on the US that all but destroys the government and causes basic service provision to collapse. it was decent.
Rick's gutted someone who can't be bothered using the weapon they're holding in their hands
interesting to see where this goes, as the Lead Terminus Guy is in the main cast for this season.
Saw a thing with Andrew Lincoln somewhere where he said as much
so no spoilers please
Liked how it was extra-gruesome with the big zombie attack.
Series 4 was definitely the best series, this gives me high hopes that it's just going to get better.
On a par with mid-season 4 battle with the Governor. Not sure how they better it from here!
Who will turn up next? I'm hoping for Bunk or Omar.
The guy that played the boxing instructor plays essentially the same character in Tyresse and has the same wardrobe too including woolly hat. It all works nonetheless.
Maybe he'll do another fantastically rubbish accent
from the makers of The Wire
did he get bitten?
incidentally, this has probably been covered in other threads but I still don;t know. What are the rules about getting turned into a zombie quickly? how much biting does it take? what does one need to imbibe in order to change? in the 1st episode, Carol smothered herself in gore - how did she not get any in her mouth/eyes etc...and if she did, why didn't she turn?
More bite = more poison = quicker death.
Dying by any means will turn you into a zombie. Apart from ways that also kill a zombie.
Standard zombie rules innit.
I was waiting for the reveal.
Though technically he had been more than bitten in the end.
Replace Bob in the tv show with Dale in the comics
He was definitely bitten, and it's going to go a bit Pete Tong next week
if they are true to the comics
that I know what will happen next week.
hope it plays out the way it plays out in the comics though :')
and they were tracking her with the 'Glen' messages
Their arms must KILL! Get a carrier/buggy please
The lack of a babybjorn
Thought it was excellent: love how the speech by cannibal Gareth was lifted directly from the graphic novel. I hope that the situation plays out in EXACTLY the same way.
Interested in this angle with the car with the cross in the rear window that Carol and Darryl chased. Are they linked to Gabriel the dodgy pastor? They are the ones who took Beth right?
Good to see the Governor's turned his life around. Always knew he was a good egg really.
for a comparatively minor character, Bob Stookey's character arc was really well done. probably the most i've been affected by a death in the show. reminiscent of Jim's death in season 1, very dignified and comparatively peaceful (lol when you're saying this about someone who had to watch people eating his leg in front of him), everyone saying their goodbyes. goes to show how much the show has come on in terms of fleshing out characters
the scene with Gareth in the church was absolutely gut-wrenching, but even so i kind of flinched at the brutality of Rick and co when they turned the tables. Maggie, Glenn (and of course Tyreese) looked taken aback. for a show that's often been seen as a bit cartoonish it sure doesn't hold back on the violence
:D classic 'oh shiiiiiit' line
that whole 'execution' bit is implied to be much longer and nastier in the comics.
i was surprised they went there though, but then i was also surprised they went there with the beheading/tank/prison thing last season.
i guess the mention of Gareth being a main cast member was disinformation then. intrigued to see where it goes from here.
the cannibals. The group splitting up could make for a great series.
No dragging anything out, I was expecting the fine young cannibals thing to go on and fucking on but it's done already, great stuff. Exactly how it should be.
It's actually become as interesting thematically as it should be as well, the whole "who are the real monsters" undercurrents are actually being explored properly and they've got a core of actors now who are actually pulling it all off.
and she was like "Which ones are the goodies??". "Probably just the baby now" was my sage response.
One of my favourite moments was when Gareth's reflexion of the glass fell over the zombies trying to get in - making him look like one. Bit of foreshadowing/real monster underneath.
Also, when Bob went laughing mad and showed his bite.
Next week though! Where is Beth.
the really long shot of the church sign. rick's scouting group leaving and the termites entering was creepier than the jump-scare i was sorta expecting.
Don't care if that seems harsh.
And dyeing it for that matter?
but he still really looks like he's cosplaying as Abraham.
First disappointing one of the season for me.
Who gives a fuck what Beth is up to? Why introduce yet another group where everything isn't as it seems and they have some kind of sinister dark side to them?
I think it would've been better interjected across several other episodes. Like, I don't know any of these characters, I don't really care that they're amoral dickbags (who isn't?) that betray and use each other. Even the thing with the doctor using Beth for his dirty work was a little wasted - it could've worked if we'd gotten to know him over a bit more than thirty five minutes.
I really like it when the show stretches out a bit and doesn't just straight adapt bits from the comics, and it's always welcome to see what's going in 'the wider world', but this was just a bit... (shrugs shoulders).
I hope TWD doesn't just become 'introduce good people, show they're bad people, show them dying'
both managed to escape and didn't, at any point, have to act like a dick to do so.
for a show so bleak and cynical it was quite welcome.
As some kind of display of how much more strong, resilient and emotionally detached she'd become.
Was quite relieved when she didn't.
Again, really glad they didn't drag the reveal with Eugene out for too long. They at least seem to have learnt that lesson.
weren't walkers were they?
I think the Eugene bit marks where I stopped reading the comics... which is good.
great stuff. really enjoying this series. The pace is great.
I think they worked much better watching them one after the other as each episode follows different groups essentially. If I'd had to wait a week after the Church Episode to have an hour of Beth, then another week wait to get on the road with Eugene I would have been disappointed but back to back it worked.
There's something bigger about the Vicar than just that 'locking the doors' sob story. I wasn't convinced that was it. I hope there is something, and I hope it is huge.
Like Abraham's anger issues and his (brief) backstory.
Like the range of reactions to the church executions (good actings in that scene I think)
Didn't enjoy the 'We're all friends and we love each other' dialogue that seemed to crop up between characters. Yawn fest. HATED the sex scene with the creepy nerd watching. Also, surely Glenn and Maggie would have heard creepy nerd confess to sabotaging the truck?
Yeah, I think I mostly just felt uncomfortable.
his little face!
than seeing his creepy eyes watching
"I like it, I'm sure they do too"
he just has a weird Serial Killer vibe going on.
Can we refer to him as this from now on.
latest episode was a bit slow, but ending made up for it.
a couple of weird cut shots back to parts.. seemingly at random.. but other than that I enjoyed.
Liked the tent zombies and seeing the big city again.
Enjoyed a bit of Darryl too. Its been too long. Think their relationship is one of the most convincing
...I thought they were going to cut from Darryl taking his face out of the airbag to show that it was a driver's side only airbag vehicle and Carol was mashed into the dashboard.
Being in the city adds some variety - was getting bored of them traipsing round the countryside. And I'm glad they saved Everybody Hates Chris.
and a weirdo community with a psycho leader who have captured some of rick's friends.
that would make a change
Of all the pointless deaths in this show I think that might have been the most kill-off-a-character-for-the-sake-of-it ones.
But that was just such a pointless bit of plotting
It should have been a sideshow, not the main event.
No other TV shows in this era of great US telly vary as much as The Walking Dead. Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's so boring.
Not every death should have some great purpose or be soaked in poignancy. People die on the toilet, falling down stairs, getting hit by golf balls etc. That should be reflected in drama too.
But that's not what this was, this was supposed to have purpose and be soaked in poignancy but wasn't in the slightest as there was just no need whatsoever for it to happen.
Rick shot one of theirs in the head in the opening minutes?
What's with the bloke at the end and the carvings on the trees?
And who it was.
chap who saved Rick in the series first episode.
Went pretty nuts, but a complete badass
They really didn't need to
enjoyed the opening bit, with rick being ruthless. was really quite surprised.
The end also surprised me.. quite liked the 'shock' of it, but really was a very stupid thing to do by her wasn't it.. overall probs best she dead.
Was wondering just before it kicked off whether or not rick et al would've got out alive or if the po po crew would've showered them with bullets..
other than that.. was a lil bit meh.. good to see Michone in action again.. been a while.
Glenn just needs to keep reminding her what a useless tool she was.
I cant get the comic out of my head.. we'll have to wait and see if they bring some bits in..
Would I enjoy reading them at this stage do you think?
a few good characters in one that aren't in the other etc.
it is following it fairly loosely though so wont spoil it for you in case they go with the comic story later on.
I'd read it.. I've enjoyed both.. and you can blast through them at a fair pace.
Only just finished s4
We're wankers not dickheads anyway.
Atlanta appears to have been bombed since season 1
It was a flashback in season 2 or something, right?
but Kirkman pretty much confirmed Jesus is gonna be on the show soon, didn't he
Really good episode though.
It was alright. at this point it is just easily watchable, stuff just happens. I'd only really object if absolutely nothing happened and the acting was terrible.
Bit too much repetition for me, although I can see what they were doing. Took me about 3/4 of the episode to realise what/where/why they were doing. I needed warming up a bit more. but that's just me.
Tyreese has been a marked man since he first appeared, he's barely made it out of a single scene alive.
Enjoyed the zombie face exploding and the truck load of torsos. people do the strangest things.
I interprated it has a stand-alone episode, that whilst not advancing the plot significantly, showed the constant prescence of death in this world.
Normally we can guess when a character is gonna die, either through extensive foreshadowing or because someone HAS to die in a season/mid season finale.
This was unexpected and was also a (not-so) cheery reintroduction to the series.
I'd watched the first two series when they came out then forgot about it a bit, watched series 3, 4 and first half of 5 over the last 3 months and had kind of an idea of who died because I'm not too concerned with spoilers. That meant that none of them had been suprising. This was my first surprise death in ages and it was sad :(
thing all the time. amazing he's lasted this long.
unrelated to Tyreese: What about Washington? Pretty sure going into a city is a terrible idea.
otherwise we won't meet the best character in the comics....
re: Tyreese. I anticipate his death in pretty much every scene. not that I want him to die though. he's nice.
Do the characters stop being monumental stupid and annoying at any point?
Do they ever stop hiring talentless hacks to play the zombies?
It is ridiculously inconsistent though
You want some thespy zombie to deliver a moving monologue or something?
Thought the hallucinations were a bit moody in last nights episode.
Some are, but most appear to have walked straight out of Shaun of the Dead.
Can't see how they'll ever kill off Rick or Daryl.
Whatever her name is...
If they kill off Daryl I'm not watching any more.
Hope Carl will too. Would also be a good plot shifter as Rick loses his motivation and reason for surviving.
Sweet judy brown eyes
I think one of Daryl or Carol will go. I think Carol is my favourite but the emotional bond between those two is too interesting to not pull apart. And ultimately, I can't see them getting rid of Daryl, so bye bye Carol.
when they introduced the priest.
otherwise they'd have to start re-using black actors soon
lingering shots on certain things and the zombie which had a W carved in to it's head - as well as all the dismembered parts. Obviously leading to something.
I really, really fucking hope that this new place is just everything is as it seems safety and niceness though. Obviously something will have to go wrong but I hope it's not from any sinister humanity.
It's weird how most of the tension from this show now comes from whether or not the writers will fuck it up rather than any of the actual in-show action.
CAN NOT WAIT!
Really enjoyed last nights, especially the flare through the eye ball
Might re-read all the comics.
bulldozing car scene was cool.
challenges to Rick over his leadership style.
first real signs of hope in the sounds of children laughing and playing.
that's not going to last is it.
Really hope they handle this storyline well, the whole "are we actually watching baddies or goodies" has been something I've really wanted the show to explore properly so hopefully this will be the case. Almost certainly gonna turn out that the leader woman is fucking her sons or something now though.
as if butter wouldn't melt.
laid it on a bit thick there. I did think she was going to kill him at first, so he got off lightly tbf.
Really liked this episode. set up a lot of tension and confusion amongst Team Rick.
Not sure how Daryl's eyes can get any squintier, but every episode they seem to manage it. they'll be completely inverted by the end of the series.
The look and style that Carol has currently given herself works perfectly against the fact that she has no problem in killing whoever gets in her way. Remember when she shot the young girl in the back of the head in the episode called The Grove because she killed her own sister; one of the best episodes ever.
and she didn't do it that coldly. she didn;t question having to do it, but it was harder for her than any other of the killings she has/might do. that was a really horrible, rivetting episode.
her naive act is great. love the way her face drops when she leaves conversations. reminds me of me :D
it overall being a consistently superb series. Another brilliant episode that comes to mind (involving Carol) was the episode when they break open the barn full of zombies in series 2. The angry and hate as they're shot was brilliantly handled. After nearly all the zombies are shot in the head; Carol's small meek daughter emerges last from the barn where Rick has to do the inevitable. Another stunning episode that left me cold and amazed.
I went to see The Terminator at The BFI last year where a guest speak was talking about the plot and script. A woman called Gale Anne Hurd who's a film producer and screenwriter writes/produces The Walking Dead. Looking her up on Wikipedia, she was once marries to Brian De Palma and has a very impressive CV. Worth looking her up.
errors in that post. I hate reading a reply that I've posted that makes me look like I have the grammatical skills of a five year old.
was producer on Aliens, The Abyss as well as the Terminators. this she was married to James Cameron, was she not? strong credentials.
yeah, that barn episode from series 2 was also very powerful stuff. inevitable, but really well....executed.....so it didn't matter.
not this she....my turn for the typos.
The fact that BMS hasn't watched the good James Cameron movies enough to know her name makes me very sad.
BMS1 I sentence you to watch Aliens and Terminator 2 through 90 times each.
sadistic, brutal stuff. done with it, horrible show.
Haven't seen it. Better not look at this thread again till I have.
what really bothers me about it is it felt like, as brutal and horrifying as that death was, the writers were almost doing it as a meta joke. eg..
- supporting character killed in a revolving door (heh)
- giving him a saccharine, heartwarming scene in the same episode, just so predictable and pathetic, to the point where it completely mocks that earlier scene, and not in an existential sense but in a stupid sense
- that bit in the van where a loud song is playing and just as the lyrics go 'get ready to die', the camera is on him. lol!
i know someone will come along and say the source material is even more brutal and graphic, but it doesn't mean the tv show can't be criticised for these things, especially when everything that surrounds the brutality is so weak and half-assed
and offering some swift justice, I hope horrible things happen to that guy.
As before season 5 started the actor had announced he had a long standing role on another show, so it's just been a countdown to his death
I couldn't catch key words in either sentence. From loser to loser or from the dying loser to Glen.
I missed that. Enjoyed that last episode.
in that they broke their own rules and caused the others to die previously - not the opposite which they had previously led them to believe.
This is interesting though (if very slight) and doesn't offer anything you couldn't already know from watching the show.
I don't think it's true though.
A whole lot less intrigued by Rick going nuts and Michonne turning heel/face.
Have a feeling a 'main' character is going....
I'm going for Maggie, she's fucked.
is going to go out like Billy in Predator.
Everything going good with him, got to turn bad soon
I wanna say Michonne. Don't want her to go though
the signature of a psychopath by the looks of it.
thought this was a pretty tense episode. another where not much really happens, except a tightening of stomach muscles in anticipation.
Didn't think Rick raging was that big a deal. He should have easily beat that doctor, Rick living wild for a couple of years, vs the doctor in cosy seclusion. Shouldn't have ended up rolling round the street.
I'm having trouble keeping up with who wants to stay or leave though.
How does Carol make baking pasta look so threatening?
Not keen on how they call pasta bake a casserole, looked a bit dry too
But nothing really at the approximate point they've adapted up to.
Having said that I am hugely excited for next week/ next season, as Alexandria is probably the best story arc in the comics.
Pretty good finale I thought....
Got pretty tense towards the end I thought, but that might just be my anxiety.
Favourite character is still Gabriel obvs.
Thought the level of fuckwittery displayed by the guy on the gate was somewhat hard to swallow. I know that they're not as experienced/tough/whatever as Rick's crew but they wouldn't have lasted five minutes without a more fundamental understanding of how to keep the dead/living out of their compound.
bar a couple of episodes where they just walked around for a bit.
the end then, did rick shoot the doctor or the architect?
the Doctor cut (accidentally perhaps) the Architect's throat.
architect so he wouldn't turn? like they do with all they're dead friends.
Of course. Very good question.
but it does leave them with a juicy dangler to flip it to the Architect.
Presuming doc cos they'll play out Morgan giving a "whats become of you? this is the right path." story to Rick
He is such a shit actor.
Was never like this in The Wire iirc?
hope he dies