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Turns out they're just NeoCon parables. :(
or state-corporate power
"What marks these dystopias out from previous ones is that, almost without exception, the bad guys are not the corporations but the state and those well-meaning liberal leftists who want to make the world a better place."
whilst she evidently did it by accident
in conclusion: you're pure evil and she's pure careless
(I've only seen hunger games)
Isnt the all encompassing state (read soviet ussr) stifling and oppressing individuals (and their individualism) and their hope to survive is that through their individualism attracting philanthropic donations from patrons (free market)
(I say soviet USSR as obviously there are individuals that are hugely privileged cw the majority......and they get this privilege by servicing the state? like in soviet ussr)
"Ya, dystopias free market the hunger games, bla blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa comment is free blaaaaaaa...."
That second film was fucking rubbish.
"A lot of stuff happened, but nothing really happened..."
IT DOESNT HAVE A THIRD ACT, IT'S NOT A FILM
Lovefilm are sending it tomorrow. I really liked the first one.
wait until the next film is out and watch them together
have this post in my head throughout the film, and then wish I'd listened to you.
the whole franchise is a pile of utter shite. I wouldn't be surprised if it was inspired by Ayn Rand. Limp literature masquerading as meaningfulness that should be burnt along with the Game Of Thrones books and 50 Shades of Grey
I don't have to be polite.
And the way that everyone reads into them as magnificent symbols and important works. The Harry Potter effect.
No they're not they're just pulp catering for misty eyed adolescents.
It's always happened. It's completely harmless. Just people reading things they like and enjoying it.
but at least it doesn't read like it was written on the back of envelope.
I don't think anyone treats them as anything more than that?
doesn't mean they can't enjoy them
and the number of column inches they receive suggests otherwise
(should add that I like Game of Thrones the TV Series but the first chapter of the first book nearly made me vomit. New meaning for the words Purple Prose)
then that is indeed sad......but then again if paradigms havn't shifted for them before these things, then they are obviously not exposed to better shifters.
sad reflection of society and the presumption of progress.
(It reflects the change in filmic scifi pre and post starwars type fx)
than never shifting at all.
so although I (possibly) agree with an aspect of what you say, I think you've said it in way that seems snobbish and elitist
aside from reasons of LBC-style snobbery, but that's probs for another thread. or seven.
that assumes that if works of fiction written for teenage girls arent basically Dostoevsky or something then they're 'trash' or 'utter shit' (the loui_tacceh effect).
Obviously the conundrum is that teenage girls will generally have no interest in reading Dostoevsky, and thus their taste/life choices are fundamentally undermined from all sides by 30 year-old men who self-style themselves as being in possession of supreme taste in terms of the type of art they consume.
Hunger games is good. It's definitely not right-wing and although I can see how you can read it that way i'd say its almost certainly a misreading. I've been reliably informed by someone who's read the books that theyre good. I'm guessing you havent.
in fact you completely misunderstand my cultural biases, you prick
said creakyknees creepily
but yeah s_h completely doesn't get where my disdain comes from - i'm only really hateful towards stuff that purports to be highbrow but does it really badly, as epitomised by that hack bastard christopher nolan
the BLADDY BATMAN GUY, m8
televisual representation of the war in Iraq and the parallel of reality television.
(which despite what she says, she clearly, clearly did)
until I actually read the thing.
I mean it just gets boring real quick.
I'm sure Battle Royale must have figured somewhere along the way.
What do the French call the Hunger Games?
Battle Royale with cheese.
as it was super-rushed, really.
I wouldn't usually point that out, but that's my favourite ever joke so I don't want it dragged through the mud.
...and then you were really *really* narked?
the actual BR-style bit of the story is really only a small part of the book. it makes the theft seem unimportant, no matter how blatant it is.
you haven't actually read the book tho have you
I don't have to be polite either
yeah, probably a bad idea that kids enjoy reading. get it banned.
I think it's good that young people read. We just need to take care to engage with them. I certainly do it with my children.
Be all "yay feminist hero!!!" without asking any broader questions.
because that would be really terrible
*not that this is the case here despite what the article says
YOU are a parody
it's an hilariously stupid misreading of the hunger games; there's been far more pissing and moaning about how the book is anti- all of these things from american rightist scumbags.
Divergent is shite, who cares.
Haven't read the thread.
Katniss comes from a depressed mining town/area, where the working classes such as her are kept in line by a brutalist police state working for the benefit of a privileged few in the fascistic Capitol. Rebellion is suppressed through planned impoverishment, and fear, borne out in the annual ritual sacrifice of children, with randomly chosen victims. Katniss' rebellion is supported and sustained by the popular will of the people.
of the US liberalist viewpoint, really, isn't it? They believe they are part of a majority who will rise up and smash the nanny state that seeks to control their freedoms. I mean I agree that it's a misreading of the Hunger Games but it's a way you could interpret them if you were an idiot, which is what the whole US Liberal / UKIP ideology is based on being.
Did you listen to the This American Life with the bit about Forrest Carter's book?
There's a bit there where the author's old proper-racist mate says how he interprets The Education of Little Tree as about liberal freedom stuff and nothing to do with hippie ideals. Kind of scary.
but I'm *pretty* sure the notion of kids being not raised by their biological parents originated with someone a bit more significant than [some Communist].
Seen the first film though. It was entertaining enough I guess.