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If you could only play on one of these, which one would it be and why?
So yeah, PS1 vs N64.
And the answer is PS1 if I'm by myself, N64 with people (GoldenEye, Lylat Wars etc)
Unless anyone has a copy of Tomba/Tombi for PS1.
but I really miss Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone and Rayman 2.
First couple of Tomb Raiders, Tekkens, Soul Reaver, Ridge Racer, etc
it's like, I had a PS1 at the time not an N64 (though I have an N64 now) but i just can't remember what I even played other than Tony Hawk.
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they had to send letters back then
Was that it was apparantly meant to be marketted towards older gamers, specifically the raver generation.
Just enjoy the image of a bunch of pillheads going to get back to their flat at half 5 in the morning and sticking on a bit of Metal Gear Solid or something.
MATE TURN HALCYON AND ON AND ON DOWN A BIT AND TEK SOME OF THESE GLOWSTICKS OFF ME I NEED TO EQUIP TH FIRE RING TO BEAT JENOVA DEATH
If I wanted fog I'd move to Scotland
Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Mario 64, Mario Kart, Diddy King Racing, Banjo Kazooie, Lylat Wars, F-Zero X, 1080 Snowboarding, etc etc.
as far as games from that era go, it's probably aged among the worst.
but it's still fun as fuck
Easily in my top 5 games ever
i thin FF tips it just for having more games
PS1 was probably the first major console that never actually produced a solid gold classic game.
Wipeout would be the closest it got, I suppose, but every other one of the PS1's 'big' games was either better on other formats, or was a pale imitation of others on other consoles.
Gran Turismo would be a better example of a 'big' exclusive which also raised the bar for its particular genre.
in the same way as Ocarina of Time or Mario 64 or something is?
was Resident Evil 4.
though yeah, I know what you mean.
Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy 9
Gran Turismo 1/2
Parappa The Rappa
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but not game-changers in the same way that Super Mario 64, Ocarina Of Time or Goldeneye were.
Parappa The Rapper is great, and, yeah, probably up there, but along with Vib Ribbon and Bishi Bashi special, they're a bit 'slight' to be real classics.
was good, if you hadn't played a PC shooter before... taken in context alongside Quake, for example, it's terrible. Also the console exclusives on the system were incredible games such as a surprisingly good port of Diablo and Theme Hospital as well as games such as the Oddworld series. The N64 has the big hitters but overall the library is lacking in comparison.
and Goldeneye was the first game to really nail the multi-player one-screen communal FPS.
Resident Evil is basically half a game - virtually unplayable at the time, even worse today.
But they inventive and had massive influence on games in their genre due to their huge (and enduring) popularity just like GoldenEye and Ocarina did
to be a real classic you have to be great yourself, and I just thought that neither of those were. Looking back, most people would probably agree that Resident Evil was one of those style/genre over execution games, and most JRPG/FF fans would say that FF7, while popularising the form, wasn't as good as FF6, despite its prettiness.
As to whether you think the games are great that's individuals choice - I do think they're classics. I still play Resident Evil.
I think the idea FF6 is held in higher regard than FF7 might be true of people really into it though, yeah, but it's not a classic like FF7 in my eyes.
really don't understand the 'no classics' argument.
ps1 had a much broader range of games to choose from, n64 was pretty limited outside of the absolute classics. still remember going to friends' houses and playing goldeneye 4 years after it was released (partly cos it was great, and partly cos there was very little to choose from especially in the later years of its lifespan). also never really liked the nintendo control and think its problems were especially pronounced when playing games made by producers other than nintendo.
It was the sort of game you thought was great when you were 6 and had never played a video game console before.
they hold up very well. Linear as fuck but still fun and colorful with strong controls.
The original PlayStation deserves respect for what it did, making gaming more mainstream. I'd go N64 all the way but the PlayStation had some great titles too. Lesser known games like Jet Force Gemini tower over most PS games. Perfect Dark was quality the PS couldn't technically achieve? Rare aside The Ocarina Of Time is legendary for a reason but I agree FFVII maybe matches it and definitely inspired it.
Ocarina was very late '98 an whilst both must have been in development for a long time, playing Zelda first then FFVII it really struck me how OOT felt similar in the villages, etc. I'd say the influence is clear.
I loved that game, Rare were on an absolute roll back then with so many quality titles.
Also forgot to mention Sin & Punishment, which was another fantastic shooter game that wasn't well known (it was a Japan only release).
I'd take a PS2 over an N64 though, so many gems released for that console, you'll never get through them all.
made friends on my first day at school with others who had Mario 64...still my best friends till this day
it was the multiplayer aspect that nailed it for me too, endless after school sessions with 4 of us over Vipesh's house nearby, Goldeney, Smash Brothers, Perfect Dark (never played a game since with so many customisable bots!!)
Then you had all the classics up there, RARE on a barnstorming roll of classic games, the RUMBLE PAK, the EXPANSION PAK, ahh halcyon days
Funny as both on here and with most friends and people i come across N64 is a lasting childhood memory yet the PS1 trounced it in sales....can't just be fatboyslim fans
Zelda, Goldeneye, Mario 64
PS1 has the birth of a huge amount of new IPs (Tomb raider, WipEout, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Metal Gear*) , the feeling that an arcade game was now able to be replicated at home (Ridge Racer, Time Crisis, Tekken) and a sense that gaming has grown up a load, with lots of interesting new ideas.
Kinda weirdly, I think the Wii U and PS4 relationship will echo that; one will be great with your mates in a room, the other will have some superb, gritty action titles and indie ideas.
* Yeah I know there were REALLY old ones, but I'm overlooking that
see you in the toilets.
No Mercy!!! How has nobody mentioned this yet? Easily the best wrestling game ever made.
like wrestling in a vat of treacle
not sure there's ever been a properly great wrestling game. There are wrestling games that are good as far as the usual format for wrestling games go, but I think there's got to be a better way to do them.
yep. had no mercy and then played raw and the difference in speed was incredible
For some reason I rented that game having never seen any actual wrestling, then became obsessed with it and had to buy it, still have seen probably less than 10 actual wrestling programmes in my life.
That, and the WCW games that preceded it, took up soooo many hours of my life. Great, great times.
as the yardstick to measure the genre against. And I had a lot of fun playing it and still do even now. It is kinda slow but it has more of a sim feel that the zany mash every button & hope for the best the more recent wrestling games do.
Although granted fire pro on GBA was amazingly fun
64 days of N64 games reviewed in 64 words.
my mate had a 'chipped' PS1. We had the best of times.
plus all the above mentions.
N64 > all other consoles at the time. Last truly great Nintendo console unfortunately.
people who love the N64 but don't have time for the Gamecube - it refined/improved a bunch of classics, made some great additions (timesplitters, metroid, animal crossing, pikmin) and allowed you to play GBA games on the big screen (Advance Wars, Mario Kart Advance, Yoshi's Island, etc).
Can only assume it's nostalgia from those that were at school or university at the time and have fond memories of particular classics like Goldeneye - just don't think that the N64 games would stand up to Gamecube if you put them side by side today.
Can you provide some examples of this? In many cases the Gamecube sequels did not match the corresponding N64 game(s) - Mario, Zelda, Wave Race, 1080, Star Fox, Mario Tennis etc. In terms of flagship Nintendo titles the N64 had the upper hand.
Animal Crossing came out on the N64 by the way, but was a Japan only release.
and i'm hampered by not really having played the N64 that much, so probably just being needlessy defensive/nostalgic for the Gamecube instead of the N64.
I found N64 games to generally be a bit ugly, which was largely addressed in GC iterations. So I recognise that OoT is basically a better game, but I think it's fair to say that Twilight Princess was a worthy refinement. Similar scenario with Goldeneye/Timesplitters 2.
Was mainly taking issue with the last great Nintendo console comment - I think that the Gamecube's unfairly maligned as a letdown, when it had much greater competition for people's time and fond memories from the Dreamcast, PS2 and XBox than the SNES/N64 did.
If you were to sit me down today with a choice of all the gaming available from the N64 or everything you could play on the Gamecube (including GBA), I think there's an argument to be made. It's not so much that I think the Gamecube's miles ahead of the N64, more that I disagree with the opposite.
007 Nightfire, Super Monkey Ball, Smash Bros Melee, Metroids, Rogue Squadron, Twin Snakes - classics.
Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, Double Dash, Starfox etc might not have been classics as far as the franchises go but were all solid enough games really.
Dunno what you're talking about with the GBA thing (never did that), but makes me intrigued.
Same with Mario Kart Advance - we didn't even have access to multiplayer, would take it in turns on the different cups and chasing ghost runs on the time trials, trying to get star ratings. Had an incredible/infuriating 'whoa' moment when we saw a two-star rating and realised we had to be getting even better times to make it to three-stars.
Yoshi's Island was ace too - basically, there were a bunch of great SNES/GBA games that you could now play on a full screen and with the Gamecube pad. Was gutted when I realised that the disc you need to use the adaptor had been nicked when we got burgled.
Don't know if it would be worth setting up these days, with later generation consoles and emulators available, but yeah, has added up to make the Gamecube my favourite console.
Suda's finest moment. Miles better on the GC to PS2 also.
weren't system exclusives, even if they came out on the console first, or if the best versions of that game were on the Gamecube.
I'm thinking of stuff like Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7, Ikaruga (I thought that the GC version was slightly better than the DC one), Soul Calibur II, Beyond Good & Evil, Super Monkey Ball, Lego Star Wars, Skies Of Arcadia Legends etc. They all had their finest outings on the GC, but people could play them elsewhere.
But I still think that there are a lot of IPs that reached their peaks on the Gamecube, such as F Zero GX, Animal Crossing, Pikmin 2, Metroid Prime, Donkey Konga, Paper Mario, and if Mario Sunshine was only the second best Mario game, or if Wind Waker wasn't one of the best Zeldas, that still put them up within the top 20 games of all time.
The Gamecube probably had a stronger third party lineup of games than the N64, with more cross platform games in particular. In no way could the Gamecube be considered a failure in terms of the overall catalogue of games. None of their own flagship titles were less than very good.
Mario Sunshine was never the second best Mario platform game though.
but it does mean that it doesn't necessarily get regarded as a classic console these days.
I do think that the Gamecube is up there with the Dreamcast in terms of just how many truly brilliant games were released for it.
The N64 heralded the move from a 2D to a 3D perspective and therefore represented a significant step forward from the SNES. The Gamecube brought more subtle advancements in comparison, so it is perceived as being less important.
that would have justified a GC purchase on it's own.
Never did finish it :(
The magic system was ace.
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plus it introduced me to drum & bass
I had a lot of time for ISS 64 though and it's weird slow motion football aesthetic though. It was like playing a sunday league football simulation where everyone is a bit tubby and hungover.
and having elaborately curling arrows to indicate free kicks.