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don't get your political news from buzzfeed ffs
Personally think this should be cause for a by-election. We vote for candidates. But we vote for them under the banner of their party. If he thinks he can retain his seat under the UKIP banner, let's have a by-election. Bet he wouldn't.
there is going to be a by-election
(updated after you posted)
they had to wait until they found the perfect photo
you can't do that surely?
From the sound of things this bloke is so back bench he's in danger of falling off. Best of luck to him in his quest to SmAsH tHe SyStEm, but this seems more of a political curio than any indication of meaningful change.
a by-election with the incumbent standing under the UKIP banner in possibly the most favourable seat in the country is a big deal - I know I've said UKIP wouldn't win any seats at the next general election, but this is genuinely winnable for them.
But seeing as he's essentially just hopped the fence I'm not too excited just yet.
him jumping ship in and of itself isn't of any real importance - he's not the first and won't be the last. The circumstances and way in which he's done it does make it pretty important though... just imagine, Farage can potentially go to Thanet (which was previously seen as their best shot of getting into the Commons) and show them proof that UKIP *can* get elected.
Likewise, I'd suggest if they can't get an MP elected in these conditions then it'll give the impression of the UKIP bubble having burst - they'd be likely to go backwards faster between now and the next election.
He's resigning to force a by-election, in which he'll stand as a UKIP candidate.
but not that he'd stand in a by-election.
We had to wait until 11.20 to get confirmation from marckee.
fucking hell. I unreservedly apologise.
If you can't trust Buzzfeed's Deputy Editor to get the facts straight on breaking political news, who can you trust, eh?
he's resigning as an MP to stand under the UKIP banner in a by-election.
Stay strong sadness my friend. I know who to look to for breaking news on DiS.
It's good to know who your friends are in times of need.
one wants to be first with the news, the other doesn't mind being a bit slower, but at least makes a vague effort to make sure it's right first. :)
there's going to be a by-election
He got 53% of the vote standing as a Conservative candidate. Labour got 25%. Could be an interesting three-way battle if he splits his vote.
he stood as a Conservative candidate with the backing of UKIP, who didn't field a candidate to oppose him. So his vote can really only go down, although that is quite a majority.
he's playing in le tournoi
Basically done for maximum damage to Cameron.
Fair play to the lad for taking it to the people of his constituency though.
They don't actually resign but are appointed to a sinecure position (normally the chiltern hundreds) by the chancellor which forces them to relinquish their office. A writ for a by election can't actually be issued until it meets again (1st September iirc).
Who should apologise now?
So I doubt George Osbourne has carried out all the formalities required for him to no longer be an MP. Have I out smartarsed marckee?
Cameron wasn't told in advance, so it's unlikely that the formalities involved in the offer and acceptance of his resignation from the party will take place before he can retake his seat in parliament.
if he is now in UKIP
So he is a member of UKIP. And an MP.
The offer and acceptance of the Chiltern Hundreds/Manor of Northstead don't have to wait until then.
And even if it did, the Commons isn't sitting anyway, so they still won't have a UKIP MP in it.
you're still legally (and otherwise) an MP during the recess. If he has indeed joined UKIP (which takes about a minute and doesn't require his boss or the Conservative party to be notified) then he's in UKIP and an MP. A UKIP MP if you will.
he's still technically a Tory MP.
(it has ramifications for lots of other technical things that mean it has to be formally signed off)
He hadn't (and still hasn't) submitted a formal resignation offer.
Crown Steward and Bailiff of the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham
or Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead
Pretty exciting job titles.
(which can also take effect immediately)
is probably cause for immediate withdrawal of it anyway.
Obvs UKIP don't have any other MPs/no whip so he wouldn't need to do anything extra to be a UKIP MP.
at the moment the Parliament website is still listing him as a Conservative. That may be because it's difficult to update, or may be because there some procedural stuff that needs to happen. Reading the clusterfuck of a thread up above, I doubt anyone knows for sure.
you can share the title of Most Pernickety Boremonger OK?
and Most Pernickety Boremonger of the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham.
Love that Bob Spink is trending on twitter.
IIRC he later tried to say that he never actually joined UKIP
although he didn't do badly - came a comfortable second.
what do they think?
really wouldn't surprise me at all if someone from UKIP got elected in Essex
Despite sort of despairing that people hate each other so much as to vote UKIP, I for one welcome a cataclysmic splitting of the Right.
That I envisage nothing but brutal revolution by the decades end
will actually work out to the Tories' benefit because a lot of UKIP waverers will be wanting to vote for him. Could be a big factor in stopping votes going from Tory to UKIP that.
This is based on my opinion, not any polling.
what do they stand for (apart from out of Europe)?
Farage says that's all they are, but other UKIPpers say they are more than that?
Whats the latest official take on them?
that is mostly about sovereignty and borders, but with some simple 'creep', mostly in cherrypicked no-brainy popularist stances.
What I would expect really :D
that's actually quite subtley funny, well done the guardian.
erm, hang on, that is a spoof isn't it?
they're basically just another neoliberal party, usual shit about "cutting red tape" and "making it easier to do business"
(except when it comes to the labour market)
(and the housing market, where they would actually make it harder to build)
it was also hilariously contradictative at times, eg they talked about improving public transportation but also abolishing parking controls and fees in town centres
Brilliant. We'll end up having a by-election contested by the Tories, UKIP, Real UKIP HateTheEuro4Life *and* the Monster Raving Loony Party at this rate...
don't deserve to be lumped in with that lot.
Not irretrievable if they manage to talk him down, but it does demonstrate the challenges UKIP still face in scaling themselves up to look a professional party.
Sick a bit in my mouth.
Still good to see Dishface turn a tenser shade of beetroot.