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come on, dayshift. i'm waiting for some snark.
let down in the dumps (go for a run)
or sick ill (watch some films)
Let down (in the dumps) and hanging around
Crushed like a bug in the ground
Let down(in the dumps) and hanging around
huge amount of pain due to disabilities and illnesses, would like to go to the gym today but that's unrealistic
no money to buy something online to cheer me up
perpetual state of self-doubt
I hate to hear of the pain you have to endure. Is tere any chance your doctors can be better with pain management for you?
could you manage a walk in the fresh air?
I can't help with the money (well I maybe could a bit but you'd tlel me to fuck off) and I am terrible with self doubt so probably not much of a help, but I am sending you a big hug x
waiting to hear from my consultant which new painkiller treatment i can start (should have a letter by friday, when i go to my gp who can issue them), also waiting to join the pain clinic.
i think i'm going to do a spot of puppysitting later on so that should sort me out.
might go for a walk if i can manage it.
but I went through a bit of a shitty week (emotionally and physically) and was dog sitting at the time. I made the dog come and lie down near my stomach where the pain was and I really felt like when he was there the pain was much less (it may have been his body heat, like how people say to use a hot water bottle, but I think it was just dog healing vibes!) It made me really want a dog
get a friend to come over and bring you some cake or something
or read a good book - liek get lost in something, but something that won't make you feel worse when you stop doing that thing (reading always makes me feel better after i have read, tv or games make me feel worse afterwards)
friends are so imp[ortant, sometimes oyu need a moan and a hug,. or just a hug and not even start with teh moaning because you don't have the energy. I lvoe my freiends. they keep me grounded and stop me from being self indulgent and silly all the bloody time.
GB, maybe try that bookclub keith suggested in the other thread (about making new friends).
go for a run, or even a walk
bollocks to the former
buy yourself a small present (like a bar of chocolate)
1. watch blue planet, planet earth, Africa, shit like that
2. I read stuff like the philosophers mail
3. I phone my best friend, Maggie
4. I close my eyes and just say 'please let everything be ok'
5. Just make sure everything within my power is done 'properly' so that I can separate just feeling disorganised from real worry, so I make sure I get to work on time and try and do everything well, basically just try and do the right thing in all situations so I can narrow down that uneasy feeling of something's wrong and to avoid felling like it's all getting too much.
small actions that make you feel in control
but I nornmally go and see my family and cuddle dogs and eat well.
Sometimes I just get on the Smash Up The hoose Juice, but that makes you feel worse in the long term (if it's an emotional 'feeling awful'.
Ginger bisuts and dairylea dunkers.
A run/ bodypump.
IUnternet shopping for dresses (I've justr take receipt of four new dresses that I bought on my credit card when I was in a strange and exceptionally gloomy mood lasty Friday. I should really send them back but they are quite hot.)
Plan/ book trips away.
Watch an easygoing film.
go out and dance.
go to church (rarely but has been known to happen if I'm in a really bad place.)
to go to St Als with me and just sit and listen to the choir or light a candle I'll chum you along.
I don't think you have to be bought into the whole thing to take something out of a part of it, and it's a very welcoming place.
sounds quite good
if i need to turn it around: cbt app, drink lots of water, go for a walk
Works for me.
if all else fails, half a zopliclone and bed for ten hours of escape from it.
at your local Buddhist centre. It's really easy. You basically just focus on your breath and sit still for a while.
- Look at pictures of cute animals (this is only for very mild low times)
- Go gym and pump hard
- Go running
- See my bestie msmonipenni for cheer ups and coffee and cake and pampering
- Speak to my mum
- Go to an art gallery and just be peaceful
- Do some crafts
- scoff some ice cream in bed in my pants whilst watching trash tv
find them really calming
i like to boob-bomb the sea with ma big tatties!!!!!!!!
Shave my face/head
Have a long shower
Read long-form essays
Don't leave the house, have a long super hot bath while listening to some relaxing tunes, play computer games or watch movies and eat indulgently. It's important you think of nothing passed that day, wake up in the morning and you feel a little more prepared for it.
If i'm ill then i drink lots of my special ginger,lemon and honey tea. And soak in the tub. And get lots of fresh air
If i feel awful due to stress/heartache well i suppose that depends, sometimes i disappear on my own to clear my head or surround myself with friends to keep my mind occupied
Aye, it depends
and stagger around singing along really badly to Tom Waits songs until I fall unconscious.
...nah, I can't back that up.
Small change is the best twatted-on-red-wine album though. My neighbours must hate me.
Don't really get properly down that much but I am absolutely riddled with self-doubt about most stuff (probably self-loathing tbh) and... it's just become like a constant so, I just plough on.
Whether or not that's the best strategy, I don't know.
Or if I dont have access to the internet lie on the floor
i am actually feeling really shit at the moment. here are some things that are helpful, to me:
+ binge drinking
+ doing maths and/or logic puzzles and/or tetris (basically some kind of mindless task where i can just carry out a routine)
+ listening to xiu xiu
Sleeping all day
Thrashing about on my guitar
And apparantly living in a tent indoors
When I was first diagnosed with crohn's I got very depressed, and it didn't help that I was in a lot of pain with it. I was eventually put on medication that helped with that, but finding the few friends and family members who I knew I could talk to and be open about what I was feeling really helped with it.
Other than that, doing things I know I would enjoy and making sure I had a slight regime helped me get through the day and I would always make a plan for something to look forward to - seeing friends and going to a movie, going for a walk, hanging out watching shit, video games etc.
It didn't solve itself overnight but it made everything easier until I had the medication and could get back to the gym and get my fitness back and do more active things too.
Really hope you feel better. x
there are lots of life things i'm generally v. unhappy about at the moment, and i'm lacking any sort of self-confidence and getting stressed about a lot of stuff which is a bit of a vicious cycle, because, as i'm sure you'll know, stress causes flares.
crohns runs in the family and i've had problems with my digestive system my whole life - it's just sort of been put down to inflammation due to other diseases or ibs. it's recently been suggested that i have colitis, though.
i used to feel healthier if i could manage to go to the gym but i had some awful steroid weight gain recently, and paired with the lack of confidence and as well as pain and generally feeling exhausted stops me getting there in the first place (2 mile walk or 1 mile and a bus).
tests and digestive system analysis is constantly being put on the back-burner by my doctor and consultant as i already have multiple autoimmune diseases alongside fibromyalgia and neurological problems, and the anxiety disorder i've had since i was in primary school.
everything is played off as a symptom of something else, but, along with the lupus (that i had symptoms of from being 2), it's the thing that i've had trouble with for the longest.
there are a few things i could be doing for myself definitely need to get into eating at the same time every day, been wanting to get into meal planning to make things easier for myself.
feel like a bit of a wreck, every couple of weeks i'm at hospital for tests or monitoring for something unrelated to my digestive system and i definitely think that is what knocks my confidence the most after my anxiety. just feel like i'm being ignored, and i've spent all of my life with abdominal/stomach pain and cramps and i'm sick of it.
probably being a big baby but every few weeks i have a day where everything just gets a bit too much because i bottle things up and i feel completely drained. hate it because the last thing i want in life is to be a victim.
thanks, really appreciate it. (and everyone elses' replies, obvs). x
It sounds lke you ahve a lot of competing and overlapping heaslth problems and it must be hard to treat one without triugvgering another, and to know which to priorities etc. Hopefully your doctors are doing some 'joined up thinking' in relation to your treatment (I hate that expression, but i can't think how else to way it- holistic?). I wonder if the lupus is kind of the big bugger tat overshadows everythign else- because your poor immune system must really struggl,e to keep up.
I think small manageeable steps which can help change your wellbeing (such as meal planning) could make you feel much more in control and this will hopefully give you some confidence back.
Maybe something you've already tried but have you tried cutting out gluten, been reading recently how all kinds of physical/neurological conditions have been linked to reacting badly to gluten.
I had a really similar thing, I went into a pretty horrible spiral of self loathing at the time of my crohn's diagnosis, and it wasn't a short term thing either, unfortunately. Which did have the knock on of making things worse.
I was also on a huge amount of steroids for about 6 months and I ballooned in weight as well. in time I was able to get back in the gym but at first it was so difficult. I used to just make myself play football as it was something I could force myself to do because I enjoyed it, even if I wasn't feeling 100% (or even close) If there is something you can do and enjoy that is mildly active, that might be the best route back to exercise, and you can do it more gently.
My situation is nowhere near as severe as yours, and while I've always had slight issues with things, I'm very lucky not to have those other things that you have to deal with, so I can only imagine the feeling of it getting on top of you.
I got a lot of crohn's/colitis cook books, kept a food diary and located my trigger foods (wistful sigh over my loss of apples, cider, spicy curry, high cellulose veg such as sweetcorn and other things) and for quite a long time I was on nutritional meal replacement shakes for 90% of my food (or healthy soups) so that my intestines were under minimal pressure as they healed. It worked for me but again it is different for everyone.
It took me about 6-8 months to be diagnosed, including three lower endoscopies. I was even rushed to A&E one night with intense pain, but I was sent home being told I had wind (seriously).
As a result I did have to have some therapy, as the depression coupled with a severe health anxiety that came out of nowhere (including nonsensical things like having a cold for a long time and being terrified it was HIV or something, even when that wouldn't make any sense). Never used to be worried about anything like that, and I'm getting better, but I do get worried every time something isn't right, even when it used to just be something I might shrug off.
Honestly, if there is anything I can do to help, or you want to talk about anything or think I could be of any use whatsoever, please send me a PM or something - I'm not sure what help I can be, but I would do my best.
You are definitely not being a baby. 'Invisible' diseases are poorly understood and stigmatised. It is very difficult, but you can take control of it, it will just take time and be small things at first.
- a hot shower
- go through all my stuff and make things/get ideas
- go for a walk/cycle (if im feeling up to it)
- nettle tea
And make seure that they can all be done in abut 5 mins or, preferably, fewer. Thanks.
Probably won't help in the longer term, though.
1) it's cathartic mixing stuff together
2) you get something tasty to eat
3) you can give some away / have people over for tea and cake
If this is dietary based illness, I didn't mean to cause offence
i've just made a free from cake-for-one in the microwave.
was perfectly passable as a cake although it was a bit dry.
offered to bake for my mam this morning but she said no :(
Drink/drug myself into oblivion
watch It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia (if bad) or Castle (if really bad)
listen to Nick Cave (wallow mode)
go to pub
email my ex
go to gym/sauna/Jacuzzi
drink vegetable juice
lie in bed in darkened room (this slots in above in several places)
Sorry things aren't great for you at the moment.
partly because songs like hero by mariah keep coming on shuffle
maybe leave the house and go for a long walk or bike ride and listen to some music. bike needs fixing, though, as do my outdoors headphones (the other ones are too unwieldy for outside use).
I thought that was just something characters in books and films do.
(no one has said SSP)
It's rarely the answer of course but often when feeling bad/down/whatever i go out of my way to get fucking wasted be it drink or drugs.
but i maange to put this minor issue behind me when OI start drinking and i soon forget because WOW I FEEL A BIT BETTER oh but now i feel a bit angry and sad and I'm crying and i have to be up for work in 4 hours, great. It's remembering those last few feelings- and not just getting drunk again- that is so hard for many people to do.
A random list of things that help
Looking at the details a lot of my answers won't help, but here's the edited version that might.
- a bath
- shouty/singy to dumb music
- listening to my fave music on top of a hill howling into the wind
- digging up songs that i haven't listened to in ages but love
- cooking an easy but tasty dinner, bit of pasta with wine sauce.
- go on the internet to agony aunt style forums and find people with all sorts of bad hands, and send them encouragement
- make iced tea (so easy!)
But if properly depressed and fuked up... well then take a day off and take a train to Carnoustie... and wander along the sea shore staring into the chasm of your mind with your headphones on... and waiting for the mind to come back and force you back to your daily life with something that helps you walk though the shit purposefully.
I love carnoustie!
I had a bit of a 24 hour breakdown when I was a trainee solicitor and took a random Tuesday off as an imporomptu holiday (to be fair i hadn't had a day off- incuding weekends- since i'd started the job 5 months previously) and I got up early on my day off and took the early train to oban. I read milan kundera on the way there, smoked about 20 fags on the beach and drank some Blue Wkd and watched the ferries coming in and out. bought a stuffed scottie dog for my dog. Wrote my sister's uni essay on kundera on the way back.
Back to work the next day right as rain again. I think train journeys are great, epsecially the west highland line.
going to small towns for a day trip, especially by the sea.
Scotland fixes me. It's where I go to bare my soul and heal my hurts.
I know that sounds a bit extreme but I know a few people who did this - they couldn't afford it and had to take out loans etc but their rationale was that getting healthy was all that mattered to them...
when you are dealing with systemtic conditions that might required that you see multiple specialists.
My feeling is that the consultants in the NHS will be perfectly well equipped to deal with this, but it'll be the coordination of a treatment plan cross the disciplines (and the fucking bureacracy involved) that is the headache that could be cut out by going private. the health service IS really stretched and it's shame that to be treated propely a lot of sick people have to aggressively chase for the right kind of treatment.
why don't you just be a life coach for incredibly minted people? you're really good at this stuff.
I would consider doing is Life Coaching for exectuioves who are trying to manage burn-out, so it's really funny (lovely/ reassuring that you should say this 9and I've lookedinto it!)
I've also just had a really good annual review at work (which I had been so worried abnout, I was violentally sick half teh morning) and a salary increase has bene promised and so I guess I will stay here a bit longer *looks at golden handcuffs*- except I will actually try to save some money with a view to this business idea in a few years time :)
I suppose this would be better for more simplistic cases.
I spent the first 25 years of my life racked by self-doubt. In all spheres of my life. Spare you the gore.
Not prescribing a magic pill. I lived in country x for a year, saw crazy shit, didn't speak their language, learned to teach. Gah, details don't matter. Now I dunnae give much of a damn about other's perceptions at all. Can summon confidence and swagger when I need it at the flick of a finger.
What's the point: Throw yourself into a hobby/challenge/new pursuit- go to evening school with a group of old biddies and learn to cook. Join a morris dancing group for a month. Stick a pin in an Atlas and take your next holiday backpacking there for a week with no research.
Tell someone on the subway that you think their t-shirt is cool and that no you're not chatting them up, but just wanted them to know.
Confidence is little meaningless victories that remind you you do not have to exist within a narrow rut. And that colour in life is the result of your action.
Proselytising...sorry, that be the caipirinha. Ignore.
if it's tramadol, you probably wont get so down because it has SSRI secondary action (and feels gud). If you're already on SSRIs then disregard this.
that are pulling your mood down.
To that, this is my list,
- allow yourself a day off (today I go do this fun thing and worry about nothing and nobody, and do whatever I like)
- plans, little achievable steps that may contribute to alleviating my worries... an appointment, an eating plan, a spring clean, seeking advice from this individual
- talking to a friend
- hearing somebody else's problems
- misinterpreting/misrelating lyrics to lay forth my pains
- celebrate the random: what beautiful things can i find in the world today, however small or random, be they details on my commute or a youtube video or a picture i like (i like looking on google for topographical maps of pacific islands or pictures of lochs and fjords)
No matter how low I'm feeling, getting smashed always helps (but it's only a temporary relief and probably not good for you, but were only young once). Another thing is forum posting. Typing to anonymous people on Drowned in Sound has helped me cope a bit through a crap half-year (isn't that why we're all here?), although I find The Student Room and the music board are better places to reside if you want to say something funny and not get bitten.
Also play games like The Sims and 8 pool.
Track 1 - Good Times - lyrics:
"I've been having a horrible time, pulling myself together
I've been closing my eyes to find the old familiar failure
I've been having a horrible time, pulling myself together
I've been closing my eyes to find why all good things should fall apart"
dunno why but the entire album makes me feel better when i'm in a sad (or worse) place
Just kind of shudder and absorb it
Or I try and work out the reasons I'm feeling bad, think of all the possible reasons until I strike the one that's bothering me, sometimes it will turn out to be something unimportant but by that point I'll have moved on to all the other things if just been thinking about and have a good old dwell
Try and focus hard on other things
Try to focus in what is making me sad and just feel it, in the hope my brain will become bored and force me to become more positive.
Get trashed, though this is very rare as I don't want getting fucked to become a crux but it can actually be a positive thing if you're with friends and/or out doing something fun.