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...this probably means Boris thinks that the Tories will lose the next election, doesn't it? That's good news for some of us.
you think Boris would be less popular than DC with the general public?
But what I mean is having him as a big player for soundbites in the press as an MP will do a lot of good for the Tory situation.
If he gets elected and the Tories win in 2015 then they will be absolutely RIDDLED with mutiny-tastic headlines. Boris being the ringleader of it all. Osbourne/May in there as well.
Still sticking to my hunches and thinking Sajid Javid will get a tilt too. Osbourne might fall on his sword for him y'know.
He'd be a less popular prime minister, probably, but until he's been in office, he'll still be able to ride that wave of people liking his schtick.
Boris wouldn't seek to be an MP at this election if he was confident of the Tories `winning` again. Reason being DC would be locked in until 2020 doubtlessly so he'd have little chance of leading the party in the near future.
Yeah. That actually rings true doesn't it. Good point GOML
All that stuff about Gordon Brown not having a mandate was just usual party political bullshit, based on tenuous stuff about Blair saying he'd do a full term.
Hypocrisy is the soul of politics.
And she had to make massive waves to be deposed. Cameron won't need much to be seen as not good enough.
having failed to win a majority in what some believed to be favourable conditions.
a regicide this close to an election would be electoral suicide- plus those who hate cameron are probably thinking it's worth waiting till a loss in May to get rid of him.
I mean he's terminally useless etc, but a Boris campaign will make the election a less depressing snorefest.
He's not as smart as some people think he is, but he's far from a bumbling fool. He's got some really nasty political ideas.
Not sure he'll get the necessary votes from the party to win a leadership election, given this.
All depends on their desperation for power, I suppose.
I don't think he has the constituency amongst MPs
Also - if Miliband's as useless as the Tories think he is as PM then they shouldn't need to have someone as unavowedly populist to beat him in 2020. In theory.
Boris will need to rely on a fat slab of internal desperation to be elected leader I think. And even then I think he'll give himself enough rope to hang himself with his popularity with the public. He is ill-disciplined and short-tempered and I'd say a few months on the campaign trail would break him.
funnily enough was just searching for something else and found this thread from the time of the mayoral election.
don't think marckee got a hard enough time for this: "in a similar way to Harriet Harman, would have been an absolute gift to papers such as the Standard, Metro and Mail (being female, successful, very patronising, and a little bit shrill)."
"Notice how I used the word 'and' in there.
It's the combination of all the factors together."
(yet i got called "infuriating" by lbc and he questions my intelligence)
marckee should really apologise
"was just searching for something else and found this thread"
"I've always said I want my star players on the pitch"
@David_Cameron ma maw could punch your cunt in man.
Ems @GayRoller2000 2h
@David_Cameron is this a fucking joke? I thought I was reading the parody account for a moment. You total cock juggling thundercunt.
of me interviewing Boris ahead of the Olympics?
I LOOK LIKE HIS LOVECHILD
Me: " Whats the best thing about London, Boris?"
Bozza: "All the beautiful women"
He fabricated sources at The Times and was fired for it. He is on tape laughing at a friend and supporter telling him he was going to physically hurt a political opponent. He was very lucky not to be prosecuted for breaching electoral law when he won the first Mayoralty election [he was 'loaned' huge office space beside the London Eye by a property developer with planning applications outstanding, which Boris, when elected, pushed through using his executive override-of-planning-authority/GLA powers]. He slandered some of the dead cyclists killed last year in London, claiming some of them went through red lights [they didn't], in order to deflect attention from his having done very little to improve cycling safety in London, a city wherein cycling is both vital and growing ever-popular. He has done nothing substantial to oppose the bedroom tax, which is about socially re-engineering London to push out the poor to a Parisien-style doughnut of sink estates. He bought redundant, unlicensed water cannon using £1M of tax-payers' money as a purely political gesture. Lastly, if you care about what it indicates about general character/honesty, he is a serial philanderer who has repeatedly lied to the press and his wife about affairs and a lovechild. In short, he is not a teddy bear. He has been shown to be dishonest, unscrupulous and negligent in the exercise of his duties.
But a general question for everyone: does someone having an affair/ being a serial philanderer make them unfit to hold public office or not?
but if someone can repeatedly lie to and fuck over his wife, i'm not convinced they won't lie to and fuck over the country.
it does tend to imply a lack of moral fibre which i'd like my politicians to have
Don't think it makes any difference.
It also depends on whether they've treated people like shit.
none of those things seem to be particularly significant to distinguish himself from my concept of a tory
That's the unusual bit
I know that should be a trivial thing cw general political awfulness, but it does help to distinguish him from other politically awful (yet dull) politicians
People think because he's a buffoon and a clown, he somehow speaks for disdain for politicians - both the entitled, posh Tory kind and the careerist liberal variety - so a vote for him seems sort of anti-politics and rebellious despite it actually being a vote for a massive neoliberal toff.
Much like Farage he APPEARS to offer honest (if crude) opinions, unlike poiticians who only do phoney media-friendly soundbites. But much like Farage he would do nothing but increase the gap between rich and poor. An elitist posing as populist.
what do they purport to stand for?
A huge intersectional network of Western capitalist policies from the 1980's onwards influenced by some pretty shit philosophy and enforced by the gun worldwide to varying effect which has pretty much ensured everything being shit everywhere right now.
Some good explanations in here too:
People are just idiots if they think he's some non-media trained savvy comedic clown who doesn't fucking know what he's doing.