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I like this new Obama strategist. Fun new angle for him.
Probably a good strategy to be fair.
we all like to think of ourselves as being above all the image crap, but when everyone else is playing the game it's too scary to step out in case no one follows and you end up losing
I think it's a pretty bold move to shift the focus away from that side of things, and it was something that was coming to define public opinion of him. Maybe it still will, but he had to do something like this to try and make it more about what he stands for than what he looks like. I think it's a very good bit of PR. Probably his first, but it's a start.
was the only option I guess, but he has to follow it through and make sure he doesn't turn it into an 'image' itself if it becomes a bit successful
Bit o'politics ladies and gents!
it's easy to be dismissive about it, but a big part of the role of the PM is to be a statesman. quite hard to get behind someone that constantly looks like a complete fanny.
I wouldn't vote for george bush either
I'm being serious though, can you imagine if prime minister miliband had to speak after a national tragedy or had to deal with the outbreak of war or something?
I can't look at the poor cunt without cringing
quivering lip serious face whenever anything bad happens?
dunno. david cameron fills me with hatred, ed miliband fills me with embarrassment. not sure which is worse.
I find it pretty tough imagining Cameron doing anything other than pathetically simpering when faced with a master orator like Obama or a scary bear-wrestler like Putin, never mind this wimp. We need someone to fight our corner.
The retiring bookworm in the corner might have the best ideas, but come the zombie apocalypse he's going to be the first one on the barbecue.
His supporters are probably the same people who think you could solve ferociously ideological conflicts in the Middle East by getting their leaders in a room and present them with some really good arguments as to why everyone should be excellent to each other.
we'll look at his funny face and realise we still have laughter
OR the implication that milliband wont hug a doggy
I hope it works
...christ, maybe since before the General Election. It's been painful watching him on TV since he seems so locked down by the PR Behemoth in charge of politics, not allowed to deviate at all.
And the result is Cameron looks suave, and old Dave is actually pretty shoddy in a sort of melting-waxen-Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-bad-guy kind of way.
Conservatives policies are pretty much blatantly evil and he looks like a mug for barely being able to mention it
I actually think the effect of barely criticising any of the Conservative 'hack society to pieces' policies has been a lot worse than any of the 'well you started it' retorts they were expecting. There comes a point you just have to suck it up and take the initiative. It's probably too late now.
Even if he doesn't agree with them
This is pretty try hard even for you
'You guys are blates evil, yo'
Imaginary arguments in your head again
It's too hot eh
I think a big part of Miliband's image problem is that he looks weak because he doesn't argue against a lot of the right wing policies the Conservatives put forward and gets caught up in pointless bickering instead. It makes Labour look as right wing as the Tories which a lot of people suspect anyway.
Many of the more insidious proposals put forward by the government. The only way this is going to change is if people vote en masse for other parties.
We should get the Greens and UKIP into spots one and two, that'd be a good craic.
Don't even vote Labour
I might if they were left wing
Labour wins where I live all the time so it doesn't matter though
I can't eat a sandwich that elegantly and maybe I don't take a great photo. My hair feels weird like straw and excuse me if my feet look like slabs of beef. Perhaps my laugh is a bit high-pitched and sorry if I sometimes eat a whole pack of luncheon meat. So I killed a monkey once and big deal if maybe my skeleton is a joke...
I'm selfish, impatient and I can't eat a bacon sandwich properly. I'm weird, I look like Wallace and I've never hugged a husky. But if you can't handle me at my worst, they're going to completely dismantle the public sector.
He was in shorts and t-shirt. I said 'hi', and he said 'hi' back.
"it literally makes no difference how much of a useless cunt I am. what are you going to do? vote for the tories? hahaha fuck you" - ed miliband
It's a bit mean he's being forced to shuffle out in front of the nation and admit his resemblance to a lump of plasticine. He was probably James Bond in his own head until today
He should go the whole way, get aardham animation to do the party political broadcasts, Wallace and G have approval ratings than any politician could dream of.
Better to look like Wallace than luncheon meat reflected in the back of a spoon.
What's he doing eating bacon sandwiches?
understanding the important issues that they are basing their voting on, then they should not vote. IF they have been flattered and are conceited in their ignorances validity then they will vote for the swarvest con man.
This is why democracy is not necessarily great, people think it will do all the work for them and all they have to do is to "vote". This is bollocks.
The very fact that there is a vein in this thread along the lines of "is the wrapping just as important as the contents?" should be indicating that democratic concepts cannot be properly applied in a childish fickle irrelevant society, in the form that it is at present.
"Percy, that is not 'democracy', what you have discovered, if it has a name, is 'idiocracy'."
true appreciation of the value of stuff (wants and needs)
hand in hand in the tendency of discussion and political argument to gravitate towards polar/binary.
This coming from our societies emphasis on competitiveness/winning as being more important in all senses (often in an arbitarily artificial sense) ....society and capitalism, bizarrely arguing that that is the way of nature (despite the fact that society demands that humans give up their right to just act as their individual nature demands....i.e. the biggest strongest group should not just take what they want.....society has removed the natural meaning of this and replaced it with an artificial arbitarily 'strong group' and allowed them to lord it over others unfairly.......whilst expecting all others to not use natural violence to try to subvert this new heirarchy.........all well and good you might say, we dont like personal violence.......except that violence against innocent people is not always illegal......it can, instead, try to be contained within predictable (and avoidable by the rich or clever voters) areas.......any paradox occuring can be glossed over by the complexity and distance of the linkages (the power structures with the resource to understand the linkages can thus increase and maintain its power (often this may not be coherent deliberation, but instead a built mechanism, that has arisen (evolved) according to the unatural arbitary artificial rules))
but I guess its difficult to see something so distant and faint, when instead you have the harsh floodlight of visual circus's of celebrity politicians, which is, admmitedly, hilarious.
what I mean is, democracies insist that you follow the rules, yet, in the last century more people were murder/death/killed than in any other......yet we congratulate ourselves on the 'progress' the human race has made.......ha fucking ha ha ha (I say we, not all of us see it like that. Me Im just a fucking monkey with a keyboard and lots of weird verbal patterns going on in my head.....i.e. Im out of my comfort zone (hence my bizarre posting probably)
Im off to PMT to play with some synths
I don't think he is much weirder looking than old blob face but both would be laughed out of American politics for lack of a strong jaw.
The horrible irony during the announcement was he was doing the whole 'Tony Blair hands' and contrived pauses while talking about how he can't compete with image based politics. He absolutely reeks of media training, they all do and that's the real problem with politicians across the board. I would have respect for him if he actually was against the grain of the horrendous, 'media trained within an inch of your life' disingenuous facade of most politicians by, maybe, being himself. But he doesn't, he tries to play the game and is just a bit more shit at it than his counterparts. Straight answers coupled with presenting your actual personality traits would be more refreshing. Someone give that a go
is such a laughably contrived shit habit.
shirley everyone can see through it now. They need a new one. Like patting your head while rubbing your belly as you speak, to show you can multitask.
I think a closed fist is probably too aggressive
Therefore, either doing the rock horns or two thumbs up is the way to go to let everyone know he's an all round cool guy
he should try the Obama thumb jab
I can't read anything about Labour's new Spin Guru without assuming that the same man responsible for getting DM to talk about looking like Wallace is the man responsible for this:
is a good strategy but he needs to convince with some statesmanlike muscle also. Not sure that Obama photo last week where he looked like he was holding in a piss did the business...
I've heard on a few occasions now that Ed Miliband isn't at all weird when you meet him - he just looks weird on TV/photos and that.