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Well? Plane lovers, help us out
explaining his plan for world domination in meticulous detail, I believe.
did you know that black boxes aren't actually black? they are usually brightly coloured so they can be more easily found!
you're in real trouble when I work it out son
Just merely a little toy of emma bunton singing the sundays covers over and over
Why don't they make the whole plane out of the same stuff???
i suspect these particular ones may be black, things tend to be when hit with an exocet.
It was the french what supplied the rebels?
(mind you the french are also suspected to have form when it comes to downing civilian airliners)
Fidel, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash.
ride on time to quell public unrest
Or another, smaller black box.
It should rule out mechanical failure and pilot error it may (though it's unlikely) include voice transcripts from before or after a missile struck.
Who would have had time to TRANSCRIBE the voice recordings and put them in the black box?
would imagine the post missile strike transcript would be fairly brief
some passengers, at least, were alive and conscious for a time as the plane fell from the sky.
Not a pleasant thought, but it does leave the possibility that something was said.
you dry bunch of fucks.
described under the black box section here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28439862
also, they've just shot down ukranian fighter jets apparently, doesn't look like things are calming down :(
in someone elses airspace and on a regular flightpath.
So basically what we can conclude that the big 'powers' with itchy fingers, do have a probability to shoot down civilin airliners.
although I guess it might rule out anything untoward happening in the cockpit (conversatoins, drop in altitude) which might indicate collusoin with those on the ground.
It has to be ruled out.
but when you consider that in a murder invetsigatoin, the fiurst thing the police do is find out where the wife or husband of the deceassed was at the time of the crime- and then they look at children and parents and siblings of deceased--- it is often those closest.
(of cours in this case it seems pretty clear it's a total fanny on the ground that has made a mistake, but then that could easily enough be a convenient constuct too.)
Holy crap, what's Putin doing on the wing! Shit! He's getting into the engines
if anythign (more likely just 'chitter chatter, can't wait to land this beast and then hit the brothels of kuala lumPHOWWOAR' and then BANG *nothing*
but you abnsolutely must rule out any kind of incvovement of those flying the aircraft,
Durrr, do you geeks know nothing about anything?
It will be interesting to see what the black (yellow0 boxes yeild. if the sound of the explosion is captured then the noise can give a clue as to where the missile struck based on the sound recorded on the CVR and pattren of noise. The fligjht recorder will show everthing needed to provide vital information about the condition of the aircraft including altitude /airspeed/ direction/ engine thrust data and loads more. the black (yellow) box might not tell us a hige amount on its own it but with the other details revelaed as the investigatoin goes on the truth will emerge.
by an inexpereinced tridgger happy RUSSIAN.
Both Ukraine and Russia have the SA-11 Surface to Air Missile (SAM) system. At its heart of the SA-11 is the ‘Fire Dome’ radar used to detect hostile aircraft and to guide missiles to their targets. This radar can detect aircraft at a range of 17 nautical miles and at up to 72,100 feet, twice the altitude that MH17 was reportedly flying when it was hit.
Crucially, the radar is equipped with an Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) system. The IFF is designed to ensure that the missile system’s operator never shoots down friendly or innocent civilian aircraft by mistake. It receives electronic signals transmitted by an aircraft’s transponder containing details of its identity and its altitude, known in aviation jargon as a ‘squawk’. This information is displayed next to the aircraft’s ‘blip’ on the radar screen to identify it.
If the IFF was, for any reason, not working then it would not have been possible for the operator to determine the identity of the aircraft that they are seeing. Instead their screen would be covered with blips, but no information on what these blips represents. The operator could shoot a missile, but they would have no real idea of what they were shooting at. To deploy a surface-to-air missile system without a working IFF is to court disaster; not least because you may shoot down one of your own aircraft by mistake.
Presuming that the IFF was functioning, an experienced radar operator would understand that the IFF information on their screens accompanying these blips represented airliners. They would also know that the flight patterns of the blips on their screens were consistent with airliners flying predictable courses, at predictable altitudes along busy air corridors.
Put simply, to the trained operator, a radar screen provides a wealth of detailed information of what is flying above them. To the inexperienced operator, it is nothing more than an array of illuminated dots annotated with letters and numbers.
Was an inexperienced radar operator on a hair trigger responsible for shooting down MH17? Did they launch a missile at what they thought was a large military aircraft without understanding that they were shooting at an airliner?
If the IFF was not working, why was the missile system even deployed? Did Russian-backed forces not realise that this would bring a very significant risk of shooting down an innocent aircraft?
If the SA-11 operator did not understand what they were shooting at, or if the SA-11 was deployed without a working IFF, then those responsible are guilty of supreme criminal negligence. However, if they knew what they were shooting at, then they are guilty of mass murder.
But nothing can derail the banter bus.
only umlaut, japes, chintzy, EMO, MITS, S_a_d, Epimer, zxcvbnm, TheRottweiler, marckee, Steved, harru and inside-outside should feel ashamed.
what did marckee do?
I regret NOTHING.
save it for the threesomes thread, sister
I was talking about black boxes in general
You're the fucking monster here m8
I didn't watch it but someone commented to effect that there is some pure-moker shit out there it seems. Great. :-/
A tragedy like this with the political implications and the as yet lack of evidence is every false flag conspiracy nut's wet dream
incident from 1983, that touched on this:
but yeah, this isn't unprecedented.