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Would I be an idiot to buy either one of these:
If so, which would be the less idiotic purchase?
Where's the red one gone though? That's the one I was planning on getting in a month or so.
I tried to get one about a year ago, I hear the new white version is still pretty good for the price.
Shame, carbon forks on that which you don't get on the white one, and I think the gearing was better too.
Was down to £250 quid before it went discontinued! Ridiculous bargain.
Gears are identical apart from the brand name, and on mine the shifters are better placed, but the carbon forks on the red one are a nice touch. No real difference really, you can pick both up on eBay for less than RRP quite regularly too. Pretty much the best bike you're going to get for under £500.
...but I would imagine that they would both be piles of crap. If you want an entry level road bike Halfords or Decathlon are your best bet - you will get a much better bike for not much more money.
it fell apart quite quickly.
There's a Carrera (?) road bike you can pick up from Halfords or Evans that a lot of people on here have recommended. I think it's about £330ish - but worth the extra £££
I want to get one but no way I can justify spending that much.
as things start falling apart pretty quickly
You can get a decent hybrid or a fixie for less...
(I have no idea what I'm doing)
...and over what kind of terrain? Also, what's your max budget?
Flat fenlands on cycle paths and the occasional road.
Would rather not exceed £200 and second hand is no problem.
Or, despite the flatness of the fens, a fixie. A hybrid however should do you fine. Halfords were doign a cashback deal on this one recently that brought it down to £199:
...on a decent lock as well.
Waiting for this place to have an adult bike I can snaffle for £60. Apparently they're good.
it's really nice to ride, and sturdy too.
I loved it and it has served me well for many years. Perfect bike for starting out imo
it was not a one finger job.
Please can you recommend me a road bike in the £800 region? Cheers.
it's better than royter's bike
I've got one and it's the best.
Specialized, Giant, Trek route. Find something a little more niche. As Eltham says, a Genesis Equilibrium is a good buy. Been looking at one myself. Custom from ribble? Love the look of a Ridley.
Point to consider, at that price, the gearing will be crap on major brand bikes so look for something with campagnolo Veloce/Simano Tiagra or higher.
Ribble would have been my choice but I'm kinda limited by my employer's terrible decision to use Halfords in their C2W scheme, but apparently they can also source any of these manufacturers' bikes too:
I found a Cube Peloton 2013 model at an incredible price but the Halfords T&C states that any bike purchased through a 3rd-party must be at full RRP. Bastards.
Given the choice I'd probably go for a Canyon Roadlite AL 6.0 - amazing spec for the money and they look cool as fuck. Obviously not on the Halfords scheme though.
but my sis got this through her Cycle to work scheme and is VERY happy with it (and I'm very jealous):
They're supposed to be decent. Just a bit, generic? idk.
This looks kinda nice:
but you can't get ribble so...
Doesn't look as nice, though:
Dolan, Wilier, genesis and focus. Just depends on the spec of what's on offer.
I had a Viking fixie a while ago and sold it after a couple of weeks because the bottom bracket had started falling apart - feel kind of sorry for the guy I sold it to but he was smaller than me so probably got on fine.
If you can hold on until October you can get some pretty sweet deals on 2014 models. I got a Genesis Volant 00 at half price from Rutland Cycles last year.
Doesn't seem right, but that's a bargain for sure. http://www.rutlandcycling.com/159668/products/genesis-equilibrium-00-2014-road-bike.aspx
Reckon you'd recommend it come October?
bigger than 18" wheels, last time I tried I came off and scraped my knees. In fact, I don't tihnk cycling is actually for me at all, why am I in this thread?
I tried for ages to find something decent second hand, but nothing ever turned up.
must have been looking in the wrong place or something
I can't trust frame size charts because I have stubby legs for my height and the last time I rode a bike that was too big for me I cycled into a barbed wire fence (Dutch bike, had to pedal backwards to brake, lost control, panicked, feet couldn't reach the ground to slow down).
Must've been over fifteen years ago and I've still got the scars. Chicks dig them though, so it's fine.
(and thus selling it on for £150-500) will expect you to want to hand over cash before trying it. If you go through gumtree/filter ebay results to local pick-ups only then you should have some luck. Might depend on how remote you live though.
Set up an eBay search filtering out everything more than 10 miles away, change the seller to private only, put an upper limit in the price range, and maybe put a keyword or two in if you know roughly what you're looking for. Save the search with daily emails turned on and something will come up sooner or later.
picked up a campag record equipped colnago for under £500 on ebay
any noticeable difference between £30 shimano spd pedals and more expensive shimano spd pedals? weight and build quality, that's it right?
have a better seal on the bearings and are a bit lighter.
The action is pretty much identical.
(according to the guy in the bike shop)
better seal on the bearings = build quality
bit lighter = weight
that;s it isn't it
I was drawn in by "carbon", which is probably my favourite element.
It's definitely my favourite element.
that's not a bad deal there
Marin are a decent make
My dad used to have one.
Spend the extra few quid required to get a Triban from Decathlon.
Aside from the raw value for money/bang per buck, the Decathlon warranty will shit on what you'll get on owt else at that price, and the resale value will hold much better than anything at the bottom end of the market, too - how many other bike communities are there for (not just a brand but) a range of models (and originally borne out of the love for a single model)? - http://triban3owners.freeforums.net/
i want one of the electric wheels from MIT/kickstarter
i need to remember to wear my shorts all the time too so i didn't get stuck riding a bike in trousers on a hot day
and don't want to spend money
no very little...can change a flat, mend a chain, the basics. Am all in on aesthetics though....bought a 2nd hand bicyle made by these guys for about £180 -
Possibly a false economy but I dont care. Plain British racing green frame, brooks saddle, brooks handle bar tape. I suspect true afficianados would turn their noses up at as style over substance but she rides like an absolute dream.
will put something up when I get the chance.
This is getting pretty close to being ready to ride:
but i'm about to get to work on a 198? peugeot frame with chrome forks, it's in a bit of a state so'll need painting and stuff, but i'm proper excited. going to be SS with flip-flop i think. annoying me that i can't seem to find exactly what model it is and what tubing was used. bloody peugeot.
the bar ends are pretty cute. where did you get the bars? what style brakes will you be putting on? what... crankset? hub? casette? wheels? QUESTIONS
Bars are Nitto B123
Crankset is an Andel track 48t Campag Super Record copy
Wheels are cheapo Quando hubs with Weinmann rims, will probably upgrade these when I can hold of some amberwall Vittoria Open Corsa Evo SCs.
Just ordered some Team Ti decals from New Zealand, and some white bar tape to finish it off.
why do retro bike builds always have these big doofer saddles though? just for the look? they're uncomfortable as heck
That one is an old Czech 'Favorit' one I got for £4 from a market in Poland last summer, kinda has some sentimental (urgh) value to it I guess.
Still needs a bit of work, but I love her more than I have any other.
dots, I know you were interested in buying this off me at one point (it's massive!) but it's the best ride I ever had (that's what she said etc etc etc) so I wanna stick with it for now.
No worries, I picked up a 60cm 531 Raleigh frame a couple of weeks ago on LFGSS, so waiting to swap everything over when I get a chance.
Can't see that pic at the moment (no Twitter at work), will have a look later. Glad you're enjoying it!
Glad you got sorted, nice one getting a 531. I think this is even bigger than 60cm, can't remember exactly from the last time I measured it. It only really feels big getting on/off though (I'm 5'10") but when I'm riding it I don't notice the size at all.
Would appreciate - need to buy a single-speed for getting about in London. Don't really wanna spend more than £300 as I'm paranoid about it getting nicked. Anyone know anything in particular about Jamis?
Doubt there's that much to choose between cheap OTP singlespeeds, though. Just go for the one with the lightest frame and best wheels.
aren't they american? (guess could check but cba)
anyway, they aren't a no name brand
that's all i've got
No complaints here, I'd only ever ridden mountain bikes before so compared to them it's stupid fast. Bit uncomfortable if you're on it for more than 45 mins but otherwise all good, nice & easy to maintain for a bike novice like me & I rode it all through winter without it suffering too much.
But when I went to the address it was a tattoo parlour. So now I have a tattoo of a bike.
just had a reply and it's a small frame (so ideal for me)
Don't buy that, PN.
Taken my back in (bought new in early June) as the gear/chain kept slipping. The bloke in there took one look at it and said 'that isn't a new chain'. Which worried me.
I doubt he's fobbing me off as chains are cheap and it's a reputable store.
The guy kept asking me if anyone has changed the chain, which to my knowledge no one has (unless someone's been at it while i'm not looking in which case why). I told him i'd had a few problems with it at the start (gears were stuck) and that I'm new to proper bikes so might i have mishandled it to wear it down loads etc, plus i've had a plastic bag fly in it etc. Yet he was adamant that there is no way that the chain on my bike no matter what i'd done to it since i bought it four weeks ago is new.
Does this happen often? Is this a thing? Idk, just thought it was interesting (it isn't)
but yes, basically is old chains on new bikes an issue? Or is there some way that i could have basically ruined a new chain in a month?
how much riding you done on it?
was it a display model in the shop you bought it from?
have you taken it back to the shop you bought it from for the free aftercare service tune up thing?
but never for distances more than a few miles at a time. I use it for commuting mainly (about 4 miles each way) and then at weekends i've done about six/seven miles each way to go to gym/training/etc. but nothing i'd ever consider excessive.
I'm just wondering if there's something i might be doing myself, be it with how i treat the bike, that could wear a chain so fast.
(the take in today was the free aftercare service too)
it has to have been me, i'd essentially been destroying my gears slowly as while i thought my gears were broke, i just hadn't figured out how to gear them down :( was stuck on the small spoke all the time. poor chain.
Chains wearing down and slipping? Yes, but certainly not in 4 weeks. Or new bikes coming with worn chains? Probably not.
is there a reason my bum always hurts from bike seats that aren't huge?
like is the seat too low or high or something or do a have a sensitive botty?
Thank you x
Long head tubes make the geometry look all screwy. Bad luck, beanpoles.
gonna be falling over a lot I think :(
is it hard to master?
just practise somewhere first, clip in, out, in, out repeat until it feels normal
then go for it
NB you will all over at some point
They're great and fairly easy to master but I wouldn't feel comfortable weaving in and out of stop-start London traffic in them.
and its my weekend bike rather than commuter.. that said there'll be lights and junctions I need to stop at.
Im used to using toe clips and straps (although not that tight)
or cycling one footed. then on the way home switch feet.
Double-sided MTB pedals are a lot easier though. I got fed up with having traditional road pedals and not being able to feel if I was having a problem clipping in or the pedal was upside down.
because i suddenly started to find it really hard to clip out
because one of the cleats had come loose
because a couple of screws had worked their way out
but after adding copper grease to the thread of the screws before screwing 'em tight i'm happy again.
(^this is for longer recreational/training rides. not digging the idea of clipping in and out when hacking through town.)
from what ive read i may need to play about with the cleats positioning until im happy.. when ive found the sweet spot will copper grease em up and tighten them S.O.Bs right up.
Further to my post last week, I've managed to finally get my uncle's old racer back off him - I spent a fair whack doing it up a few years ago only for him to nick it back and never ride the damn thing. Expect pics to follow.
it's the third time I've posted it. Can someone comment on how pimp it looks this time please?
do you have any idea how long I deliberated over that?
Do you have any idea how long I deliberated over which bike to get through the C2W scheme (that closed (for a whole year (on friday))) for which they have no record of my application on their system and are refusing to budge to help me out?
(nice bike though, was looking at the same one myself)
I got a Cotic Escapade a couple of months ago and it's ace.
To replace my stolen bike. Is it worth the outlay?
so I didn't do loads of shopping around and there might be better value elsewhere, but for if you want a bike that'll comfortably do road/cyclocross/touring then it's fantastic.
Obviously it's not super quick, as the steel frame's heavier than carbon/aluminium and the geometry is pretty relaxed, which suites my knackered back. I don't commute on it but it seems pretty hard-wearing and is definitely a lot of fun to ride, so it'd be great for it, if you can afford to spend that much.
Could be a bit more dayglo, though.
especially the two-tone bar tape.
Looks like a good bike spec-wise though i guess
had v good reviews
i looked at cube on my c2w scheme but had to have campag so ruled it out
via nirone veloce
very comfortable frame
Worra load of bike for <£900.
*think* it is possible to try canyon's if you get hold of their sales guy - check the threads on bikeradar
you can't do them on c2w shcemes though afaik
Mostly when I went up to the TdF I suppose but more and more in London too. I assume they are mental expensive?
Well, they do sell mental expensive bikes but they're really good VFM. They're one of many companies that sell direct to their customers in order to keep prices really keen compared to some of the 'bigger' manufacturers.
Looks lovely, too.
are remarkably similar to more expensive carbon bikes from other brands
as with any mail order bike company (rose, canyon) the downside is you odon;t get to try before you buy
They're the standard Shimano Sora that were on it when I got it. How do I make the gears better? What do I need to buy?
mine are great
happy to help
and that's a very decent reduction
I'm not so sure. If it is, it was waaay overpriced to start with.
Either way, I'd still defo get a Triban from Decathlon. For the reasons stated upthread (and in threads passim). And cos the specs for that Carrera are a little hazy. Does it even have the 'flappy combined brakes and gear shift' jobbers?
but I'd just heard alright things about Carrera (for the price, which, 'honesty' of reduction or not, is a good price, imo tbh tbf)
Is that the Triban is ANOTHER £50 over budget when I'd already prefer to not spend over £200 ("save up" comments not applicable; I can afford it, I just don't want to overspend on a leisure thing).
Also I wouldn't be able to try it out first and that's not sensible with my odd leg length: height ratio.
I think Meowington bought the Halfords jobber and has since griped about it, whereas I got a B'Twin and I'm still acting as if I'm part of a Decathlon street team after a similar period of time. And the fact that there's a community built up around the range tells its own story. (I'm presuming that the same thing doesn't exist for the TdF).
You might prefer not to spend over £200 but the fact of the matter is there's a floor to what you can reasonably expect to spend on a new road bike and still end up with a decent road bike rather than a bike-shaped object. Buy cheap, buy twice. Sure, you'll find a smattering of group reviews of entry level Russ bikes that day the TdF is a reasonable option, but you'll find plenty of people willing to vouch for their Triban after a decent amount of actual use.
(there's an extra 10% off the listed price ;) )
All fair points, ta.
that seat would hurt my bum but all bums are unique
But does anyone else have an opinion on that yellow and black thinger?
but other than that, have you been and had a ride of one? see for your self.. does it fit you? feel good after 5 minutes riding about?
I haven't tried it (maybe this weekend) but I don't think I'll be able to try the triban anywhere.
and dont get the carrera either.
have a look for a 2nd hand one..?
Struggling to find anything with a 20" frame that's not a fixie.
or places you can get to.
have you tried searching by the metric equivalent aswell (maybe me being obvious..)
Doesn't take long, plus I get the joy of seeing listings like "GOOD bike" (shit, all these other chumps are only advertising bikes - I'd be an idiot to not go for the only GOOD one!) and the £850 adventure bouncy castle that would totally fit in back garden.
bikes that gets reccomended in any budget road bike thread you'll see.
So it's decent for the money certainly. I prefer the B'Twin Triban 3 from Decathlon though.
Also, ignore the discount they put on the carrera - it is literally never on sale full price.
Also, Halfords have a reputation for their store staff being very bad at putting them together for you.
it's had good reviews - but the non limited one may be cheaper
pretty annoying that the criterium de dauphin basically does my commute once a year and it's the road leading up to the madeleine, so basically every pro and serious cyclist ever has done it, somehow they are a lot faster than me.
what do you need? can you use it (reliably) with your phone? Data connection or just gps? Who am I? You're not my mother.
before setting of you hit a button to start recording an acitivty. it then uses gps to map your route. I wear headphones so it gives you split times (I have it set up for every KM when running, turned off for cycling)
end of run you swipe to unlock then touch to finish run. it then syncs with its database, gives you a map of your route, along with your overall time, splits, pace, segments, climb/descent. go pro and you can hook it up to a heart monitor.
only had it fail on my once, this week, where it lost the start of my run and announced Id done 2KM in 1 minute or something silly :/
Doesn't need a data connection, just GPS and a slight death wish if you want to get some Top 10s.
there's a segment near me that I've consistently ended up top 10 in (at best, acouple of times, or at least thereabouts on other occasions). Out of 900+. That's without making a concerted effort, just putting in an averagely decent amount of grunt. Sure, it's early on in the yearly Glasgow to Edinburgh cycle route, so you'd expect a load of relatively sedate times that are easily beaten. But my usual placing for just about every other segment is nestled somewhere ~half way down the rankings, even on segments where I've consciously been digging in. Is it conceivable that the gradient/length of this particular incline just suits my bike/body combo?
http://app.strava.com/segments/5259593 — Bartiebeith Rd climb to the lights (8th, with my occasional riding pals at 1st and 4th, who are both zippier than me, but nothing heroic - maybe it's just not a very popular segment with people who are proper good)
Similarly, this http://app.strava.com/segments/5355471 — Lochend Rd Climb (24th)
(Can't see what it is on the app, either, so don't know what it is in comparison)
look at the top times ffs - 15%+ gradient, 33km/h, I barely do that on the flat. (i'm at just under 14km h)
To calculate wattage. Unless you have the cash to splash out on a power meter, and you are a cat 1 rider, it ain't worth a jot worrying about your watt output.
Amy thoughts on my uncharacteristically competent showing on those segments?
But similarly, could be that you've found a level on that segment. Looking at the segment times I set with the app compared to those with the Garmin, I'd say the former (sorry)
gonna clock a time with my watch next time I'm out that way.
so, are the segment rankings kind of a sham, then?
But I have been speaking from anecdotal experience in using the app compared to using a gps computer. As I said I've had a kom taken away for the app having intermittent and too weak gps. This has never happened with the Garmin.
But, it could just have been an issue with my phone and it could be working fine for you.
cheers for yer thoughts.
To the S3 mini. The app just wouldn't work. In the end i took the plunge and forked out on a garmin 500. Easily one of the best cycling purchases I've made. The app has issues with losing data or GPS signal every so often and so rides or segment times can occasionally be skewed. Had a KOM taken off of me for weak GPS signal.
only had the bike about 6 weeks and already seem to have spent the same amount i paid for it in accessories and kit!
The no mans land section
Perhaps I'm sitting too far forward
Is that between the legs and doesn't have a load of fat for protection cause that's the bit
is this on long rides or just out and about?
you should be sitting on your ischial tuberosities mate
for people looking at cheaper bikes
Mekk are anew company that have been garnering good reviews in the budget range
the pinerolo is under £400 and has carbon forks
worth a look
I built mine: 753 frame, full 105 groupset for just under £400. It takes time and effort but you learn and get more for your money if you're getting bits second hand or calling in favours from friends who work in bike shops (which helps)
Were "time" and "effort".
bake your own bread
build your own pc
brew your own beer
construct your own house
you're 100% correct, though
I've just got me C2W LoC sent to me.
What would happen if I changed the value in Photoshop and went to Halfords and picked up a bike worth considerably more than the one I ordered?
I could easily change it though. There's no barcode or anything on it.
that says my name and the value I have chosen.
Otherwise you could also just use the letter several times.
Also, if you're locked into the Halfords scheme then Harry Halls and Bicycle Doctor both take them.
only 3 left, more than half price.
Closest I can find online is £450 new but I might be way off with my model numbers.
But have no idea what the cost would be for a decent/equivalent one, which is why I'm asking.
Bought the Carerra TDF from Halfords for £200 new in the end. The 54 cm frame is *just* doable, with the seat low.
I'm picking it up on Monday and riding it home, so if I never post again after Monday afternoon you know what's happened.
thought you were tall?
I'm 5'10" on a good day with a 30" inside leg.
(add it to the spreadsheet)
Because the lad on the till at Halfords couldn't count.
Been lusting after this for a while.
I'm moving my ride to Grayson Perry's house to Sunday now.
they have some nice looking bikes
not one that looks like it's an energy drink
i looked at cube before settling for orbea as easier to find, well reviewed bikes
105 equipped as well, nice (although i am strictly campag)
of the year for me today
nobody hurt, other guys front wheel buckled, my bike seemed ok.
ruined my time though - was on for a good one today
glad you're okay
going round a bend on the river path no a downhill bit, guy coming the other way just stopped in the middle of the path, i swerved whilst breaking to avoid him, clipped his front wheel as i stopped sending us both down. i went over the front wheel & ended up tangled up in cables & stuff for a bit
more embarassing than anything else
bloke was nice about it. left em thinking if this was 2 cars there would be shouting, but it was really friendly, both just making sure other person was ok
i've never gone over the handlebars of any bike but i know it's only a matter of time
both times in collisions, both when was slowing down & momentum meant that i did a rear wheel wheelie & just kept going - probs need to feather the front brake a bit more
The Triban 3 is back, £199, in my size.
Thats a heavy bike
Very hard not to with reviews like these
and with an entire forum dedicated to its kind of cult status
you get what you pay for. No doubt it's a decent bike for the money. I'm a bit out of my depth when talking about cheaper bikes. Now if we were talking about £3k carbon jobbies, I'd be a bit more help.
ah no wonder you can cycle like 10,000 miles at a time!
I could totally do that if I had a £3k carbon bike. totally.
NB. Current bike was bought for basically pootling around locally, it's not a proper road bike. But after doing London - Brighton and LOVING it (despite the crowds) and doing a few longer rides I seem to want something a bit more appropriate and being on a (very tight) budget this seems to fit what I want.
but it depends slightly on your concept of 'longer rides', which is very relative of course. Up to 50-60km you'll probably be alright, but much more than that and it's weight will start to be a factor (especially if the road tilts upwards!).
But if that's your budget it's probably worth a punt, and I doubt you'd manage to find anything better even second hand.
When you do fancy that longer ride though just let me know!
Just pick up your new bike over the weekend and come on that.
116km on my currently significantly heavier than that above bike on Sunday and didn't feel like it affected me too much though I found hills were atrocious, mainly because of the really shitty gear ratios (52-38 chainset and 11-23 cassette, fuuuck. Hilariously my boyfriend has a 8 speed Charge Grater and got up Ditchling Beacon without breaking a sweat, the utter git). Been reading a lot this morning about upgrading various parts on the Triban and seen some people who've managed to get it to about 8.5kg.
I'm not sure even I will notice the difference of any weight at this point in my cycling life, but £199 with a carbon fork, part Sora groupset has GOT to be worth a punt. If I don't get on with it I will have literally lost very little.
"Been reading a lot this morning about upgrading various parts...".
Good work on your boyfriend's part though! He seems to have the build for it. I've failed Ditchling Beacon twice, though they were both on my old bike - haven't tried it on the new one yet.
When are you picking it up though? Very welcome to join me on the ride on Sunday to test it out.
but: "Your estimated delivery date 27-Jun-2015"
youll start thinking that the triban needs upgrading. And the next thing you know is you've just dropped £3k on a carbon bike! But seriously, You'll never be satisfied with what you have. Something always needs replacing, or at least you think it does.
We should go for a ride sometime.
I have a friend in 'the industry' and he informs me that, for example, cervelo offer the R3 in white and the R5 in black, the reason being that a white paint job requires a different, heavier carbon layup than a black one does. This means they can justify the higher price tag for the R5 partially by claiming the weight savings in comparison to a R3.
I'm not a total rivendell/grant peterson acolyte or anything, though I do only have steel bikes. The idea that quality is directly proportional to value is stupid though, clearly.
I mean its obviously nice to have nice things. If I had the cash I probably would buy a flashy bike (probably one of those Ridleys, if you're asking), but I think as a general rule unless you're riding a top end bike because someone is paying you to, you don't 'need' to have it.
The idea that you can't ride over 60k on an 11kg bike is laughable.
Im thinking more along the lines of spend a little more will help in the long run. A £20 pair of shorts is going to be outperformed by a £40 pair, which in turn, will be outperformed by a £60. But you hit a ceiling. Im almost positive that my £75 pairs of Santini shorts are more comfortable than my £160 rapha shorts.
I'm more than well aware about the tricks they use to get you spend more. The R2 is the same frame as the R3, just with a different carbon fork and £800 cheaper. And weight does make a difference over longer distances. My CX bike is a nightmare to ride over 100km whereas, two weeks ago, I rode 312km on my carbon bike (not top end btw) and felt good enough to maybe ride another 100km more.
Though there's a middle ground between a piece of shit halfords bike and a s-works venge where anything is probably going to do the job for most people to varying degrees of comfort/enjoyment.
The new Btwin 540 looks great, incidentally, for £600. Especially if it ever goes on sale.
most people find a level where they're happy. I have an 8yr old Time carbon frame that I know will keep going for years , campag neutron wheels that are bombproof, campag chorus gruppo and I'm in a place where I know I won't need to upgrade anything. Not high end bits, but more than good enough for what I need. Whereas my old campag centaur gruppo and entry level campag wheels weren't good and I knew they needed upgrading.
It's all about spending what you can afford. Companies try all the smoke and mirror techniques to get you to spend more than you need to, and idiots pay over the top as they have the money. You need to be strict with yourself.
Ever wanted to have a ti frame? I'm very tempted.
If I had unlimited money id get some bespoke custom built ti bike, cross bike with 1 x 11 SRAM, vintage French randonneur, bamboo fat bike etc
and, by far the best looking bike was a ti lightspeed. Would've loved to have a ride on it. Really swayed my opinion of what a comfortable bike could be.
Got my Triban 5A (the black one w/ blue bits, Sora groupset, £400) a couple of years ago and it's great.
I did 125 km on it last weekend. No probs. Wore eight quid Aldi cycle shorts. No probs. Maybe* didn't look as classy as the kid decked out head to toe in Rapha, but meh. There were a dozen of us and I was comfortably at the head of the pack ahead of fat knackers on bikes costing five times what mine did.
read this: http://road.cc/content/blog/154721-can-you-race-450-bike
*my classy jersey: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/foska-marmite-road-cycling-jersey/rp-prod77347
Love that jersey. Was thinking at the weekend that cycling jerseys are about the most practical clothing in existence for EVERYTHING. Quick-drying, sweat-wicking, POCKETS TO HOLD EVERYTHING, I mean come on, what more do you want?
Incidentally I bought some £4.99 Muddy Fox shorts from Sports Direct recently and though they don't wash well, they've not fallen apart and have been quite comfy (though I've since bought some Altura baggies which are alright, though less comfy even with the padding). That + free jersey courtesy of my sister's work = bargainacious cycling times.
nah, not really
though been out on a few longish rides and realising i don't have the right tools for the job i actually want to do doesn't help
Must pluck up the courage myself some time, although apparently I'm going to have to ditch my 12.3kg bike first, otherwise it seems I'm destined to die of exhaustion along the way.
My current bike is 12kg, the flats, most uphills and downhill were absolutely fine. In fact I found the downhills absolutely terrifying in places, I felt like I was going a hundred miles an hour (actually 52km/h).
Also there was an amazing array of all types of bikes and riders. I said somewhere above that my boyfriend (who's almost marathon-fit, granted) did it on his Charge Grater which is basically a city bike with 8 gears, nothing "road" about it at all and is heavier than mine, and managed to get up every hill with ease. I also passed plenty of lyrca wankers on the hills I did manage.
london brighton ride
Did 7.30 this year and the first hour was quite crowded, though didn't have any trouble with people being idiots myself (though the amount of people who couldn't clip in properly was hilarious). If you're super-serious about cycling and want to go mega fast then it probably isn't for you, but if you don't mind the people (I quite liked the atmosphere) and don't want to sort the route yourself, it's ideal.
but not sure about the route out of london. Looking at route from the south coast, up to london via leith hill, down to brighton and back. About 160 miles I think.
If I want to shave 3kg off the weight I'm dragging up a hill the cost-effective answer isn't a £1K bike, it's for me to ride my current bike a bit more often :-).
It's interesting, the idea of group-riding doesn't appeal to me much. If anything solitude is one of the things I like best about cycling. Also not too bothered about speed or times, or indeed unduly bothered about occasionally having to walk the thing up hills. More interested in just going to different places.
far cheaper to lose weight on the cyclist
but the Triban 3 (specifically the model above when it still had the carbon fork) is the equal of probably a 400 quid bike. Was Decathlon's way of making a splash in the UK - it isn't a Tesco special.
I put this in the wrong place. whoops.
I won't be keeping it
you will have to change your Strava name to niki on a triban
and you happen to want the size 48, then I'm about to sell my girlfriend's one*.
*she is aware of this.
recommend me a good helmet. Not one of those catlike helmets though with the creepy holes.
my dad just bought a Met Stradivarius which seems decent. Personally I like Bell helmets (calm down).
went on a bike ride down the thames barrier and back, didn't even feel it the next day yolo
I've never even seen the Thames Barrier. Is it cool?
On my route home there are roadworks with traffic lights, reducing flow to a single lane.
It's a 7% gradient uphill, a few hundred metres long. There's no way I can get through it quick enough before it goes green at the other side and cars start coming towards me on an already narrow road..
What do I do, who has right of way?
There is no really viable alternative route.
i take cycling up the hill with traffic coming towards you is making you feel pretty vulnerable? is there some kind of council / authority you can mention it to?
Complain to the council. They probably won't do anything, but at least you'll have put it out there.
Rule number one on a bike: be safe. If there is no safe way to cycle up the road then don't do it. Do anything else instead.
Then when the lights change and the cars start coming towards you pull in until they have passed you? Then cycle again?
If there's a pavement on your side of the road then I think you could justify using that too, as long as it's not too busy, you don't ride above brisk walking pace and you keep your eyes open.
Left hand side is completely dug up and a massive hole.
I reckon if I power up at about 16km/h I can make it. Oh yeah, there's a nice 10%+gradient bit in the preceding 200metres so it'll be a doddle.
Defo complain to the council
If not, it should be!
I'm looking to head to Europe for 10 days cycling. I'd prefer it to be pretty flat and scenic (NOT Holland then) cods I'll have paniers and don't fancy going up too many long steep hills.
Average about 60-70 miles per day...
Any ideas? Anyone done the Velodessey route from Northern France, down the west coast to the Spanish border?
yes, I'll be fishing too.
Apparently it's a very busy route, but I'll look into it in more detail!
much of Germany and BELGIUM are all pretty flat too.
has windmills and lots of nice breweries, what more could you want?
I guess I could do a tour of all the Coca Cola factories in Europe!
tbh it all sounds lovely
which includes riding through northern France, Belgium and Holland. It'll be my first time riding in Europe, but looking at the profile it's a little bit hilly between London and Dover, but once you get to the mainland pretty much everywhere on the route it flat.
We're stopping off to watch the Tour de France Grand Depart in Utrecht on Saturday day, and then seeing Kraftwerk in the evening.
Just not entirely sure i'm fit enough!
London to Gibraltar using a bit of the velodessey. Not going until September so can't let you know what it'll be like. There are a ton of voie verte routes to get down that way as well
Something like Copenhagen, Roskilde, Helsingborg, Malmo and back to Copenhagen with some detours? Don't know if the landscape will be too different from Holland, though.
but the countryside is mostly pretty boring.
really should know this, and can't seem to find a definitive answer, but if the threading and shell size are the same, can i replace a cup and cone bb with a cartridge?
Thinking about getting the Triban 500SE this weekend as my first road bike, unless there's anywhere else I'd be better spending my money?
You could spend a bit more and get a Verenti or Ribble entry bike with a Shimano drivetrain, the Verenti defence with Sora is £365 with the wiggle promotion this weekend.
can I just say that this is something I have never ever done......apparently it is a thing, my son (soon to finish at leeds uni) says there is a middle aged bloke that infamously does this in Leeds
Spent a large part of yesterday replacing my bottom bracket which included ANGLE GRINDING the old one out because it was stuck so fast but now I feel quite a sense of achievement at having done a proper bike repair job. Forgot to check my derailleur lined up with the crank though so now don't have access to any of my lower gears until the workshop's open again...
Just for getting to the train station in the morning and leaving locked up there during the day.
I'd consider a fixie, but I'd very likely do myself a massive injury.
What's your budget?
Realistically it's going to be sat outside a train station all day in a place with high bike crime so I shouldn't go nuts. The smart thing would be to buy second hand at least.
What would you recommend at the lower budget end?
ones for under £300, which I assume is waaaay more than you were thinking of?
ie the Fuji Track Comp, beautiful bit of kit:
Was thinking of maybe half that though :D
If that's not realistic I'll just get some pile of crap from gumtree and run it into the ground, but I thought it might be nice to have something fun to whizz to the station on in the morning.
but in London they seem to be ridiculously expensive, mostly vintage-looking old road bikes that someone's converted. I'm led to believe it's actually quite easy to do yourself and it would probably be quite rewarding if you did.
too many of the lower end helmets are mushrooms and I don't have £100 to spare for a helmet.
Do I need a new helmet, sexybum? Had it 8 (ish?) years and I've not fallen off a bike or dropped it or anything but that web page about replacing helmets suggests that they only have a life of about 8 years before they start getting compromised or something :/
I just wanted something a bit lighter, airier, less mushroom-y
Why do all b'twin bikes come with massive utterly shite lights? Gave them to my pal last night who didn't have any :') also their mechanics are super nice but I felt like I knew more about bikes than they did. The quick release levers on both brakes weren't secure which meant they were super tight. Idiots.
Also obvs need to lose the wheel reflectors and the bell, but other than that I am well happy.
(Wiggle do some cheapy well-reviewed "touring" style ones)
I'm going on a "steady" ride with a local club (they're not super serious) on Sunday morning and I CANNOT WAIT
I know a few people who got them so they could use them with and without cycling shoes, and they all ended up never using them without cycling shoes.
the lighting in that picture is well weird
(nice bike though pnickers)
probably cost more than the bike. Silly old nickers.
What do you wear out on shorter rides?
I'm not ready to go full Lycra wanker yet, but my white t-shirt + cheap high vis cycling jacket combo this weekend was a sweaty disgusting mess.
Is there some kind of middle ground?
Also are you JUST riding or stopping off anywhere?
If you're just riding, a proper jersey (or any kind of sporty top, but bike jerseys have those handy pockets) will help with the sweaty disgusting mess (and doesn't really look shit off of a bike, at least, I don't think so). Padded shorts for longer rides, otherwise just any pair of shorts or anything you find comfortable on your legs tbh.
Not really stopping anywhere.
I've got padded shorts and they're a bloody godsend, so that's covered.
How about these?http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb-active-short-sleeve-base-layers/
Would prefer something higher vis but beggars/choosers etc.
(it's mean for running but who cares)
Personally I'd get the bike equivalent but they don't seem to do a mens one at Wiggle, they're all a bit expensive. If there's a Decathlon near you they're doing mens red jerseys for £4.99 at the moment: http://www.decathlon.co.uk/320-short-sleeve-cycling-jersey-red-white-id_8327980.html
No Decathlon nearby but I'll look out for something similar to that.
they often have stuff relevant to your needs. padded but casual (rather than tight lycra) shorts, etc.
There's an Aldi just round the corner, too.
they've got one next Monday.
Got a jersey and padded shorts for £8 or so each. They're a bit full Lycra (well, polyester) wanker, but the shorts will fit under my current baggy cycling ones and the jersey made a huge difference on yesterday's ride. I didn't even realise I was a sweaty mess until I got home and took it off. Great stuff.
Also bought matching gloves to complete the wanker look (£3.49) and a cycling computer that unironically brags about being "ALDI quality" and was £6. It was useful to monitor my speed, and was so cheap that I don't care if it flies off the next time I hit a speed bump.
Seems to work ok. Only tricky point is that the sensor and the magnet (I assume) you fit to the spokes have to pass within millimetres of each other for it to work, which is a little fiddly.
but completely buggered mounting it and just can't be fucked with it now so am looking for a wireless one, might have a look in Aldi then
But, y'know, for the price of two slices of toast it's got to be worth a punt.
just bought my first pair of cycling shorts. I look forward to not mashing the penus to death. haven't tried them out yet, updates to follow.
still need some kind of jersey.
well, they're kind of stealth cycle shorts. you're meant to wear them under normal ones so hopefully no one will know I'm a lycra wanker
These t-shirts from UniQlo are great for any kind of excercise, under a tenner each: http://www.uniqlo.com/uk/store/goods/133158
Oh sweet padded shorts, how I miss thee. Nearly cried when I went over some uneven monoblock.
Just the three more miles to go later. My poor bruised perineum.
or just ride it enough that your arse cheeks mold to it
Tend to say "it's alright for the price, but that's the least comfortable saddle I've ever sat on"
swap it out for a charge spoon
you can thank me later
You may receive a formal thank you letter from my bum in the next few weeks.
Quite a lot of fun, as it turns out. Still getting my confidence up but enjoying it so far.
Bit annoyed it's all MENS stuff, though, dicks.
Stick them down the front of the men's shorts, job's a good 'un.
I used Lidl gloves - £3.50, no complaints. used them for a fair while afterwards too (until I lost them). Might make a trip to the Peckham store tomorrow.
£5.99 MuddyFox shorts from Sports Direct do leave a little something to be desired.
Probably have very little life in them left tbh
Shimano ones. Complete game-changer.
but most of the stuff has been a complete waste of time. actually can't think of anything actually good I've had.
buy cheap buy twice.
(agreeing with Sam doesn't mean I don't think he's a prick)
has to be worth a punt?
Installed it last night, works fine, is actually quite impressive what you get for £6.99. Even tells you the temperature AND lights up.
Gonna test it tonight I think.
speed (+ max speed, average speed)
time (+ total time, + stopwatch)
calories burned / fat burner (wtf, don't even know what this is tbh)
temperature (again, wtf, why this needs to be on it I dunno)
also has a cool animation when you're accelerating / decelerating
some other things I'm not sure of
has power saving mode after 5 minutes
obvs it's missing cadence but what the hell do you expect for £7
big plus point was I could mount it on my stem. tonight i'll see how accurate it is vs strava
Vulpine have a sale on:
Got a gilet, a rain jacket and one of their merino jerseys. They're pretty good but I think it's *slightly* overpriced. Might be worth it if stuff's on sale though.
Unfortunately, teaming up with Chris Hoy has ruined their brand.
so the headphones will only cost £263.
Victor & Liberty have matched the price of most of the Vulpine sale and might have a wider range of sizes left, fyi.
You can sponsor me if you like: www.justgiving.com/graysoniow
ten spot is bit steep for throwing to an internet random (so you're lucky you caught me when i was drunk). can you dial that down a bit?
But thanks for actually clicking, Wizzer :D
Gonna step up the sponsorship drive at work this week, just had the forms and charity's t-shirt delivered
But, as I say, I was drunk at the time. :-D Enjoy!
climbed the Col du Tourmalet the other day and the first MTF of Le tour, La Pierre St Martin last week. The Tourmalet was one of the toughest, but enjoyable experiences I've ever had on a bike. It was so, so hot. Around 1hr 40 mins climbing (19.4km @ 7.5% average) and 20 mins ish descending. If you ever get the chance to go to the Pyrenees or the Alps cycling, do it.
but think the redux heading is a bit of a misnomer now
Seriously though, that's amazing. I met a girl a couple of weeks who's family home is at the bottom of the climb. She said her dad still rides up it (slowly) even though he's in his late 70s!
I'm beyond useless at climbing, but the Tourmalet and d'Huez are two i'd love to (and hopefully will) have a crack at at some point!
Nah was a Rapha full kit wanker
Literally haven't got a clue how hard it's going to be. Planning on crawling up it the first time and trying to better my time later that week. Any tips for alpine ascents?
theres a very good book called Mountain High by Daniel Friebe. Gives a little history and then stats and maps of the climb. Helps to visualise it in your head so you can measure your effort easier. Take a rucksack, a small one, for water, especially if it's hot. Might not look pro, but climbing for 90 mins in 30c heat sucks if you only have two bidons. Maybe a bit of food as well. Think how you're getting to the climb, driving or riding. If driving, park a bit away, so you can warm up a little. If cycling, take food and find a quieter route to the foot of the climb if possible. Roads in the Alps can be quite busy.
Alpine ascents tend to be longer and shallower than Pyrenean climbs. Take your time, enjoy it, stop to take photos and have fun. Maybe use the second time up to push yourself. Your mind will know what to expect second time round.
Bought a copy of that book. I'm staying in Bourg D'Oisans and the idea is to try and do the Alpe D'Huez, Col de Galibier and Croix de Fer in a week. Might be a bit much, but if I bail out I can sit in the hot tub drinking wine for the last few days.
Will report back!
so hopefully that'll be good. I'm new to cycling any kind of longer distances, so this is all exciting to me.
(to the tune from the Charmin advert)
This is a question for those of you who plan rides using some kind of website or application or device: how do you do this? Do you have a Garmin (/other device) to tell you where to go? What's the best way to plan routes so you're not going along awful roads unsuitable for bikes? Or do you tag along to club rides (/similar)?
Thank you for your time x
I have a Garmin which I pre-programme routes into (you can use it on the fly like a car sat nav, but it sometimes sends you down roads which legally you might be allowed on, but you don't really want to ride down - A roads and stuff like that). It then just shows you a map and tells you when turn left or right etc.
Strava also has some kind of algorithm which will give you routes between two points based on the roads most ridden by cyclists which use the app which means they should be ok, but it might not always be the most direct route. You can then transfer these to your Garmin.
When planning routes I often use the google street view man to check out any roads I think might be a little bit iffy from the map.
most cycling clubs will upload their routes to the Garmin website and make them publicly accessible. When I used to live in Islington I used to ride loads of Islington Cycling Club's routes but separately from the club.
If you just find your local cycling club and have a google you'll probably find a load of routes that start from roughly where you live and you can be pretty sure they'll all be suitable for bikes.
All solid advice tbh.
Got a birthday coming up and thinking about a Garmin y'see.
I'm going for a ride on Sunday if you're around?
I know we discussed next weekend (which I can still do) but I might be a little more time limited then so the distance will need to be shorter.
Strava have a very good route mapping tool on their website. Type in a start and end address and it'll plot a route using either most popular routes or safest depending on what you want. You can also use a start address and plot your own route to somewhere. Gives you mileage, estimated time, elevation ect... You'll be able to save it to you Strava profile page ( it'll show up on your profile under routes). I find it a good tool to help explore further afield areas. If you have a garmin (edge 510 or better) you can save the route to it and use it like a sat nav.
I guess my main concern is battery life while using a smartphone for a prolonged period. But hey ho.
but then transfer the route to my Garmin - the battery life is much better, and having a smartphone strapped to your handlebars ruins the aesthetic of the bike (and is totally not aero, obvs).
I have one of these:
Works pretty well as far as mounts go but not totally ideal so don't really use it, especially as I have a lil wireless computer on the stem already.
The number of people I saw looking super-pro but with awful handbar mounts for phones at RideLondon was insane.
i really don't see the need for a GPS computer with mapping capabilities. One of the joys of riding a bike is to enjoy new surroundings. I just follow the signs to somewhere that looks familiar and ride. I have the Strava routes as back up in case I'm unsure where I am, or come across an unsigned junction.
if you get stuck or feel lost, have a look at the route. I've never used it as a sat nav thingy. More as a map with a route marked on it.
Don't be afraid to explore and get lost, you have a phone with a map app, use it.
What's wrong with a Raleigh Lizard, eh?
look at this beaut
gonna join the super cool clipless gang I think.
anybody got any decent spd shoe recommendations?
a mate is giving me a shot of his cheapo racer over the weekend, and it's already got clipless pedals on it. but I don't have any shooooz
any budget with the shoes?
shimano m424s afaik
dunno really. was wanting to get a cheapo pair to start off with to see if it's for me.
nothing much under £40. Shimano shoes are fine for entry level.
i've just moved to somewhere right on a cycle route to my work so i want to get into this bike wanking thing. however, on days when i do early or late shifts i get a taxi either to or from work, thus leaving me bikeless for the journey in the other direction. my question for you: would it be worth my while getting a folding bike in order to be able to take it with me in a taxi one way and cycle the other? or are folding bikes a pile o shite? which ones are ok and not very expensive because i'm not yet sure if i want to commit to the bike wanking thing fully?
I don't know anything about foldy bikes so don't listen to me BUT
the only ones that aren't shit are really expensive.
what counts as shit in the context of bikes? all i really need is something that will get me to work alive and not fall apart immediately
How about ditch the taxi and cycle both ways when you're working early or late?
Really quiet roads and properly wakes you up before you get to work. The weather can be the absolute worst sometimes though.
and the cycle would be at least half an hour/40 mins i reckon. get tae fuck am i cycling to work in the dark at twenty past five in the morning when i could have a nice fast cosy taxi for free
also not that keen on cycling at night as i'm scared of roads and there's no lighting on the cycle path and also i live in a slightly dodgy area
is the bike wanker consensus that a decent value folding bike doesn't exist, then? the route is pretty flat and smooth...
(which start at something like £700 iirc)
why are bikes so abhorrently expensive?
what would be the main issue with cheaper ones? just that'd they'd break down really quickly or what?
I expect: heavy, terrible to ride, difficult to unfold / fold up.
This might be useful for you?
Honestly I would just cycle all the time instead of getting a folding bike.
Cycling home in the afternoon is a lot quicker than public transport for me, so that's another plus for not getting a taxi in.
No ideas on folding bikes. If it's a flat route, stick to a singlespeed for simplicity/fewer things to go wrong. Make sure you get something with eyelets for mudguards though.
my new job means I can cycle to work. It's about 8 miles / 50 minutes in total and I'm gonna have to change into smart clothes when I get there (booooooooooooo).
Questions for y'all who get to work by bike:
• backpack or panniers?
• do you shower before or after?
• wet weather gear?
use the backpack I have to begin with, buy panniers and that if I think I'd prefer
will probably still shower before work as otherwise I'll have the hair / towel drying issue to deal with and in my experience I don't get *that* sweaty cycling
probably won't cycle when it rains loads
Also are there any other cycling to work things I've not thought of? I asked about secure bike parking but my new employer is unsure, hoping they'll get back to me about that
always take your bike lights with you, even in summer. nothing quite like an impromptu trip to the pub followed by cycling home in the dark with no lights.
Have ridden 10 miles a day to work for almost 11 years with a backpack. So that's my choice. Panniers, would need to check if your triban has racking eyelets or not on the front fork and rear dropout.
Shower before as I have no shower facilities at work.
Wet weather gear. Not really worth it imo for 8 miles. If they fit on your bike (ie, you have the clearance on the tyres and forks and the eyelets again, although you can get clip on ones) mudguards are great. And overshoes are essential as well. That's all I have. Just use old kit when it's wet.
Triban has racking eyelets but I'll just use a backpack for now. I'll still be cycling at weekends without the need for a bag so would hate to have to keep taking it off and on again, so that's an issue too.
You'll appreciate those more than anything else on wet days.
But my racer has no way of attaching any mudguards on so would be the only option if I wanted to put any on.
- if it's only 4 miles each way you shouldn't be getting sweaty
- nah, just bring a change of cycling gear on wet days (unless your office has a radiator)
you'll be needing a shower then I imagine
panniers are good if you don't want a sweaty back, but they are quite heavy so will slow you down
"if it's only 4 miles each way you shouldn't be getting sweaty"
...if it's pancake flat and you're doing 10km/h in <10°C, then maybe. But in reality: as if.
more than a couple of items of clothing, I'd get panniers. 50 mins with any weight on your back will take it's toll.
I use a backpack but I keep shoes and shit at work. Also my commute is <30mins now.
but some sealskin socks would be nice.
so I'm a fulltime wanker now.
and to just buy a bunch of dresses and tights so that'll be all I'll have to take, so it's probably fine bag-wise.
you'll REALLY appreciate it if you get a puncture on the way in.
And you hate the environment anyway so win/win!
Get a pump. Can't freeze your hand with a pump.
I'm quite prepared bike-wise, it's just the practicalities I'm thinking about.
and you get a cute little sleeve to protect your hands.
Way expensive for what they are.
CO2 also has the risk of over-inflating or running out of air.
if it runs out before it's full (never has) add a few manual pumps.
a second lock you can just leave at work as well. Those things are heavy.
Mine just lives on the work cycle rack now.
why haven't I thought of doing that
I just leave my locked to the bike rack outside work as I don't need it when I get home.
hate people who leave their lock on the racks. worst is people who have one of those massive chains. entitled manbaby dickheads
I could leave it in my desk though
worst case scenario - you annoy someone like Royter
then the locks are there for good!
like jackets and shoes get left at work. Things that do need to be changed daily (shirt etc) you can just use a backpack for. Or if i'm super organised i'll get the tube in on Friday with a week's worth of ironed shirts so I can ride in every day the following (bar Friday) and not have to carry anything - making me more aero.
Don't use panniers as they'll make you look like a dick and are totally not aero. They can only be used when touring, which a commute isn't.
And *definitely* don't wear 'wet weather gear' when it's raining. It's shameful and ugly and not aero. I leave a small towel at work and wear minimal clothing (sexy). If it's raining you're going to get wet so no point trying to fight it. Skin is easier to dry than clothes once you get to the other end (so bare legs are better than trousers/leggings etc, especially when shaved, which is more aero) and the fewer clothes you're wearing, the fewer wet items you need to deal with at the other end.
could really go a mint aero rn
I'm still trying to figure out the best way of doing it. have just been backpacking it for the past couple of weeks, but sometimes need to haul too much stuff so thinking about getting panniers. sweaty back is not nice.
don't get sweaty enough to *have to* get a shower at work. so baby wipes and a towel are doing me fine at the moment.
just a dress and my lunch.
I'll leave deodorant + other stuff like that at work as well. I've cycled the route I'll take enough to know that I'll probably be okay without a shower, especially if I'm changing into clean clothes at the other end.
in the garage doing "bike maintenance" kids.
and if you're a total fanny :-
A couple of those disposable decorators gloves in your saddle bag, so if you do need to do any emergency maintenance/tyre changes/dropped chain you can keep your hands clean.
anyway bike grease is fucking difficult to get off isn't it
Doesn't need to be slathered in lube. It's not that hard to get rid of when on your hands.
I'm gonna blame London's filthy roads for the dirt.
or maybe the tyres then gloves are a good addition to your pack.
Full kit wanker ALWAYS
Gonna take the route from mine through to Peckham, then onto London Bridge and up through.
On the plus side though you get all your hill out of the way in one go.
is slightly shit but it'll do
really good for doing a big shop
fills me with pity
for all that bread
you've been done mate, just leave it
see if you can squeeze a small bottle of beer in your pannier bag tonight to drown your sorrows
I blame this thread for jynxing me.
embarrassing how long it took though, out of practice.
picking up my super cool spd shoes later. will probably fall over in traffic and die.
wish me luck.
in the open like the park.
that way if you do topple you can lean on the cars.
yeah, was thinking I should definitely wear them on the ride home without practicing or setting them up properly first. in for a penny and all that.
oh by the way, adjust them so they are as tight as possible. When you get more experienced you can loosen them off a bit.
didn't pay to get clipped in for them just to come undone, gonna tighten the fuck out of them
thought they came with cleats but they only come with cleat nuts (?) so I can't play with them until tomorrow :(
You have to by pedals, which are supplied with cleats, or the cleats themselves. Shoes won't come with cleats
also bought some mud guards that didn't fit. what a complete disaster.
A note: when I first attached my cleats, the screws/bolts seemed to have a habit of coming loose. Actually lost a couple toward the end of one ride and had difficulty unclipping the loose clear from the pedal, which was slightly unnerving. Solution: a dab of copper grease onto the thread of the screw/bolt.
Scared *and* excited. Might go to Herne Hill for a bit of practice first?
In reality, just entered the ballot for ride London 2016. bd
Aldi will be selling Garmin Edge 500 computers for £79 on Thursday. Absolute bargain.
i have some mitts which are fine but for the first half of my journey this morning i thought my fingers were gonna fall off (not really, but possibly had a little trouble using brakes).
what are my options for when it gets REALLY cold?
Can pick them up pretty cheap atm. Can get them for different levels of cold. You'd be alright with normal ones.
my current ones are the best I've had in terms of warmth, waterproofness and not losing too much control - some gloves really don't feel safe for road bikes. Got to go to a meeting now but I'll find what they were called. They're sealskin anyway.
might get em.
had them. too baggy. like your fingers lose sensitivity on the levers.
bit pricey but I have bought loads of gloves and these were the best.
I bought them in an actual shop on a spur of the moment thing. That'll learn me.
too much pressure.
I will say that akin to ALL cycling stuff - the stitching has come away on the piping.
(can't remember) which do the trick untill the dead of winter. might get some undergloves this year.
Which do the job given that London very rarely gets properly cold. Would imagine folk in the frozen north might need something a little more fleecey.
Which route are you taking into work pn - are you cycling along Old Kent Road or going the back route through Bermondsey?
Forest Hill to Peckham via Honor Oak, all the way down past Peckham Rye, behind the library through the canal path then on through Bermondsey, yep. Actually quite a nice route with lots of cyclists, it doesn't feel unsafe at all until motorbikes come up behind you and weave everywhere (bastards). Still haven't worked out the best route back given part of that road where you go underneath the trains is one way, hmmm.
If I see you I'll say hi!
On the route back, you mean the bit where you go underneath London Bridge station and Bermondsey Street is one way at the top end? If so, it's annoying as you used to be able to go through one of the other tunnels but it's now closed due to the station improvement work. I take Tooley Street down to Tower Bridge Road, take a right, go for about a mile and then left at the crossroads down at Bermondsey High Street onto Grange Road.
I'll be on a red Triban 3, with an incredibly loud stripey jersey on.
than going all round the houses, so cheers for this 👍
I was going to start a new bike wanker thread about winter clothes last night. but I didn't.
I'm needing waterproof gloves too. Really wanted to like those sealskinz ones but tried them on in the shop and they were too bulky. I prefer to be able to move my fingers about easily than be warm.
Wore an Aldi base layer this morning, worked a charm apart from it has a well high neck which I don't like, might get some cheapo Decathlon ones instead. Obvs I am still in shorts on the bottom half as my legs don't feel any cold apparently.
bought these http://www.endurasport.com/products/?ProductID=180&initcode=E0095
from Aldi's latest batch of kit. Three fingers externally, but five inside, if ya follow. Hasn't been cold enough for me to properly test them yet, though. Will try to remember to report back.
We got a Strava group?
will do at lunch?
my photoshop / similar skills are non-existent
I'm slightly hesitant to join this as I've got folk from work on my strava and don't want any sort of connection to here.
sack them off then
I can change the name to something less wankery.
I'm Gray LS (VCV)
Anyone else? (can't be arsed to access the full site on my phone)
More of a runner over the winter and don't tend to log my cycle commutes on there but joined anyway.
wza iza in
now I'm fully kitted out with some new pedals and shoes and a lovely Kask helmet :D
i'm thinking of getting a bike for general fitness (running is shit isn't it) & cycling about for a laugh at the weekend.
I live near Brighton which has quite a lot of nice areas to cycle around - the downs etc. My question is what sort of bike would be best? I thought a hybrid as they're a compromise no? Dunno if i should just get a second hand road bike though?
Ideally looking to spend no more than £350-£400, if anyone has got any recommendations that'd be great
Whatever Triban is around £300-400 at the moment (500SE?). I regret not going full road bike dickhead sooner
Otherwise, hybrid I'd recommend this only cos my boyfriend has one and he loves it
cheers for the recommendation, that bike seems to have a lot of good reviews and is pretty affordable, nice one
(occasionally pops up on their website, I got mine for an unbelievable £199) and I am so pleased with it. There's an entire forum built around the cult of the Triban (Google it) and from what I gather people keep them for ages and upgrade bits slowly over time once they get into riding and know what's what which is what I intend to do with mine.
it's completely overwhelming knowing what to look for, so something decent to start with but able to upgrade once i know what i'm doing sounds perfect
Most bikes are essentially the same
Will give you a better understanding of what to look for
type of bike totally depends on what you'll be using it for. A hybrid might be good if you're riding 20 miles at a slowish pace once a week, but IMO, you'd be better off with a road bike (especially when thinking about the terrain you'd be riding over). More positions for your hands, better options with regards to the type of rides you can do. You'll need to decide if it's something that you might get sucked into and enjoy.
might look into road bikes more then, thanks for the advice
I'm thinking of getting some studded tyres for my winter bike for full all-year-round cycling action.
Yeah, I *am* pretty hard.
but not MTB ones obviously
yes I get that a lot.
Cyclo-cross tyres are a good shout. Brilliant tyres on all terrains
I mean we'll have to wait for some ice so could be a while.
And I need to buy them. And fit them. Urrrgh I hate fitting tyres when it's cold. Hmmmm....
They're twice the weight of normal CX tyres, too.