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Week two, run one completed. My knees hurt. How are you all doing? Tell me about your successes and failures.
Never used it - failure
between the time I bought running shoes and the time I started running. But only a day between downloading the app and running.
Might start tomorrow. MIGHT.
Someone encourage me.
you could probs do that
failure - went to the doctor about my knee pain and was advised to find another form of exercise that wasn't running. Don't think I've mentioned it on here before.
Success: Chesterton gym has a buy one get another half price offer on and that's nearby. Back to cross trainers with me.
Failure: ended up running last night instead of going to honest burger
Amazing just how bad I get at it so quickly. First run out and I could barely go for 15 minutes.
Feeling much better about myself now that I've started again though - hope to be back up to 30 minutes daily by the end of next week.
Success - finding it v easy, it's releasing a lot of endorphins or w/e in the evening which is helping me feel not incredibly depressed (main bonus tbh), seeing funny or interesting things on a run, I got oggled by a group of women last week
Failiures - I'm not used to working up a sweat and am sorta paranoid so having a lot of showers, not really looking forward to running on wet grass tonight
Been running for years now and I get really cranky if I don't do some every few years.
seems the supportive lining in my running shorts is not that supportive after all.
not a good look.
got my 5K to about 25 mins.
took some time off for the world cup.
had a mental block and got stuck on week 3 & 4 for ages, got well despondant then something clicked. did my first 5K last night, was a proper buzz, feel well chuffed
treat yourself today, yeah?
seeing as i was killing myself with impressive amounts of cheap vodka. running has literally saved my life. praise be.
not going to bother with couch to 5k but I've got a 2 mile route that I'm going to push myself further and further round without stopping.
Once I can do that I'll extending the distance...
but I just don't know how to fit it in. I did a trial run of half a mile, I was fucking knackered at the end, wheezing and couldn't get my breath, but think I started off a bit too quickly. So I got the c25k app and haven't tried it yet. I get back from work at 5:30ish, I have a daughter so need to bath and put her to bed, cook and eat dinner then I am up early so need to go to bed around 10. I suppose the running doesn't take long but the getting changed, cooling down afterwards and showering will eat into the real world stuff I have to do.
Actually fuck it, I have loads of time to fit in a run every other day.
mrs ccb cooks on the days I'm running so:
5.30 - back from work; help with teatime; girls' bath and bed
7ish - go for a run
7.30 - back from the run, quick shower
7.40ish - sit and have dinner in front of the TV
TBH it just reduces the time I spend pissing about between the girls' bedtime and mine. And it might just stop me from suffering a stroke in my 30s.
find running a completely boring form of exercise??
I mean it should be encouraged, but i just cant for the life of me be arsed with it, very boring.
Took up mauy thai boxing instead, way more fun!
You can sort out thoughts/stuff that's happened in your day
And then you'll see something funny like a seagull stood balancing perfectly on another seagulls back and the world seems like a better place
generally I average between 25-30 minutes and I find I really need to focus to maintain my pace. Also a great time to listen to some tunes.
yes! best thread
started on c 2 5k in febuary when the weather was HORRIBLE - thought if i could do it in the cold, windy rain, then i'd keep it up. put it off for a few weeks and then just bit the bullet, brought my running stuff into work and went out. really enjoyed c25 k app - loved how easy it was really, the voice prompts are great, and i don't think it pushes you too hard really. since then i got a bit injuried which put me back a little, have upgraded all my gear to proper running shorts and tops and socks and earphones that don't fall out, and signed up to two 10k races in august and october.
up to 6.7km in 37 minutes now, and starting to build in hill runs and interval runs into my training. it's gone from something that i had to force myself to go out and do, to something that i look forward to everyday that i do it (i'm currently trying to find some nice run routes for when i got to spain on hols in a couple of weeks). going from soemone that didn't do ANY exercise at all, i'm already the fittest i've been in years and i'm pretty sure it's increased my general happiness and feelings of wellbeing. also have got quite a tan off it!
going to start doing some upper body stuff as well as it feels a little unbalanced having nice achey legs sometimes and no aches anywhere else.
this month i have run 54 km over 10hrs
I VERY MUCH RECOMMEND IT!
do genuinely feel more connected to NATURE and more in tune with the SEASONS and stuff like that
like i know what time the sun goes down so i can try and get in a sweet sunset as i'm running up some hills or something
this is a genuine yet underrated part of running. probably because it sounds a bit wanky, but it's a great feeling. Liek the time I ran down the seafront in dense fog, about 10-feet visibility, listening to Russian Circles - running up hill out of town with the fog reducing around me, sunlight starting to break though as I got higher up and further from the sea.
fuckin' magic, man.
being able to run that far to experience all that. fitness woo! nature woo!
Been running at dawn, mist coming off the hills, frost on the ground, sunlight angled across the sports fields, no-one around. Magical.
Running round the coast last week, I come round a bend and see the empty hills around the outer harbour, sun's just come up, just as Sigur Ros' Festival hits its peak.
The music on the couch-to-5k app is fucking terrible though - reminds me of Christian rock but without the Jesus stuff.
that's what mine let me do?
i've also gone from just having the iphoen on shuffle to putting together amazing running playlists.
i used to be wheezing along, half exhausted, and then Leonard bloody Cohen would come on to pep me up!
but I just downloaded the podcasts onto my iPod and did it that way.
It's good motivation to get through the weeks :)
My boyfriend started running about 8 months ago and started off EXACTLY like you. Even went running when we went to Bruges! Did his first 10k in April and loved it. Then about 2 weeks later, injured his knee pretty bad and hasn't been out since, so, c-b: LOOK AFTER YRSELF!
(Your post is really inspiring and I'm gonna start couch to 5k TOMORROW!)
you and yr boyf shoudl go out together - get him back into it!
i really don't want to get injuried - i had a little one which meant i could only go out once a week for about a month, and then took two weeks off to totally recover, and i found that hard to get back into it.
Ran sub-four-hour marathon last week. Second marathon I've run, cut my time by 23 minutes.
Ran my first 10km about 4 years ago, and have just built up since then. Feels good man.
but beer and computer games since then have taken their toll. Started the program with a view to be fit enough to do some hill walking in Morocco at the end of August, going to be doing the last run of week 2 today.
It's forgiving stuff but I'm very worried about shin splints, which became a problem back when I was banging out 3 runs a week before. It's not bad enough to stop right now but it's definitely where I'm feeling it at the end of each.
Pretty much learning to run again, after suffering from intolerable shin splints in recent years. I imagine they're the sort of thing that enrage a lot of DiSers, but I love them.
as all of their claims are bollocks..?
$3.75m to be precise.
In their early marketing material they claimed that running in Vibrams strengthens your feet and reduces your chance of injury, which they do... in the long term. BUT they require a fairly lengthy transitioning period where you learn to land on your fore/mid-foot rather than heel-striking, as most people that run in trainers do.
Basically if you go out and start running in Vibrams as you have been in your normal running shoes, you're going to injure yourself. If you actually give yourself the time to adjust and learn to run in the way that we've evolved to run prior to running shoes, you'll strengthen your feet/ankles/lower legs and reduce your chance of long term injury.
More info here: http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-scientific-case-against-vibrams-fivefinger-running-1575132888
I have my iPod in my left pocket (non-jingly - fine), tissue in my right (non-jingly - fine) and keys in my back pocket (jingly - not-fine).
Can't be doing with it.
just take that alone - no keyring or other keys.
but good point. She's away for a week next month. Might leave them under a plant pot or something.
Good suggestions. I'll probably hide them though as I need two keys to get back into my flat. It simply hadn't occurred to me to do this!
I forgot, I also take a pedometer with me. It's only a cheap one but it's cool to know how many steps I've run afterwards. Might invest in a fancy one soon.
poor mrs ccb - I don't think I've ever told her about her french lover (the fucking bastard)
iphone on one of them armband things
detach the only keys i need and put them in my running shorts zip back pocket thing, also often have my debit card in that pocket as well.
have a running water bottle like this http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjamesdonaldavis.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F01%2Fbottle.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjamesdonaldavis.wordpress.com%2Fauthor%2Fjamesdonaldavis%2Fpage%2F6%2F&h=268&w=268&tbnid=_3dN772g0OHe2M%3A&zoom=1&docid=AILFs3fZvLIPWM&ei=v0OtU5HjL8eMO4ndgIgF&tbm=isch&ved=0CCMQMygCMAI&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=1000&page=1&start=0&ndsp=20
and I'll put it on achain round my neck or attach it to a hair boauble and put that round my wrist.
I want to go running tonight. I probably won't.
I've ran on and off for a few years, usually having big breaks for other stuff (yoga/gym/cycling) but now i'm back on it. Run every other day at lunch time. We've built it up and now can run 7k in 47 minutes.
I prefer to go with someone for distraction. Talking to them really helps my breathing and takes my mind off things, otherwise i get bored/hungry.
Bloody LOVE running I do.
Outdoor runs rather than on a treadmill though so I'm not sure how far they've been. I used to do 5k on a treadmill in about 25 mins and am spending the same amount of time on these runs but it's difficult to know what pace you're going at etc.
I'm on 1200 cals a day as well, it's knackering.
Walked back from work (6.5 miles) in lieu of a run yesterday and my legs ache more today than any other morning this week.
That's mental if you're also exercising.
1500 is not many calories. how long have you been doing that? Not surprised you are knackered. be careful.
Particularly given I'm trying to shed a few pounds.
Will keep my eye on it though for sure, cheers.
I maybe have a couple of days a week where I net 1500-1600 calories. mostly I net 1900, with exercise. But you're doing 1200, which is a fair bit less.
you must be shedding a lot of weight that way.
how long have you been doing this? watch out for dizziness and low blood pressure really.
Have dropped a couple of KGs in that time, feeling alright generally. Just a bit tired which is to be expected given exercise and WORLD CUP late nights innit.
Been ensuring I have one of those megajuice bastard things every day as well to make sure I'm getting proper nutrients and that.
and 2000 for women?
My worry is that on a VLC diet you will lose lean muscle mass and that overall leads to your body fat ratio being worse and your body being less efficient at burning food for energy. it's also a recipe for type 2 diabetes, just be careful Ant!
I thought just eating less and doing more exercise would be a good thing, now I'm going to be paranoid that it's harming me :D
I'll make sure I'm careful, thanks for the advice guys.
it's literally impossible to do anything to do with fitness or nutrition without 50% of people chipping in to tell you that you're definitely going to ruin your health.
you're not on a crashingly low number of calories, just a dieting amount.
let youself have a day a week where you can eat what you like though. someone said this in another dieting/exercise thread and it's pretty good advice. it won't threaten your goals and will give you something to look forward to.
PO - I thought it was men 2000, women 1800, but a quick google suggests 2500/2000. Age, BMI, and activity levels notwidthstanding.
well, I live by a net of 1900 a day, with a fair few more if I have been on a 10+k run, to replenish and build. this weekend I managed to consume nearly 6000 though. I allow myself the occasional binge.
Does it actually help you lose weight or is it just a nice motivational tool?
there might also be some nutritional and/or dietary benefits, but I don't know about those. Speaking from experience, it's all about the motivation.
1 minute high speed | 2 minutes recovery speed.
Repeat until I drop.
shame there are so many running apps, or we could have a "Let's all follow each other on Strava/Runkeeper/Nike/MapMyRun/Endemondo" love-in.
but we can't because there's too many.
(Strava ftw btw fwiw)
Though I used Runkeepr's built-in 5k training programme and it was a bit shit, told me to "warm up" for 5 minutes and I was like... jogging for a bit thinking 5 minutes has DEFFO gone now, and it had! It didn't tell me to do owt else once 5 minutes had happened. Anyway, what app(s) did use guys use SPECIFICALLY for couch to 5k training?
Not a fan of things that clip round yr ears. Anyone?
was ok - has slightly annoying pop ups at the end when it tries to make you sign up to the premium version, and if you want to change a playlist or skip a song when you are running the controls are so small you'll probably accidentally click on one of the banner ads - but it works and suited me.
i use these headphones
which work really well - havent fallen out once since i started using them -- cord gets tangled a lot tho -
you can call up their customer service team and just order some of the bits that go on the ear phones that stop the earphones falling out for about a fiver, i haven't tested it but i reckon they would fit over crappy iphone earphones, so you probably don't have to buy the 'enchancers' and the earphones really (not sure that makes any sense)
I've never had them fall out or anything. You don't need ones that say they're for running.
Then press start on the app. That's how it's worked for me on other Runkeeper programmes (not C25K though, so maybe it's different there).
I did, however, join the gym yesterday AND finally worked out what bike I'm gonna buy so hopefully will be on the way to losing my beer belly by the time I go on holiday in mid-August. *hopefully*.
Free timed 5km on a Saturday morning, really good way to motivate yourself by tracking your times and running with others all at different levels of ability (and with dogs). Got to sub 21 minutes before having to take a break due to district rugby taking over those mornings for the last year.
Taking on longer runs now and set to do a 10K at the end of the month then build to doing another half marathon which I've been saying for the past 6 years.
I have some cheap Phillips headphones that clip over the ear and they are fine other wise in winter a normal pair plus a beanie usually did the trick, not really the weather for that sort of behaviour at the moment though.
a few of my friends do it - I'll join when I am at a reasonable pace :)
it's all good.
that about 6 of my friends participate in, the results of which are published on their websites. They might not be racing, but I'd feel like I was.
I ran almost every morning when I was in Canada with my family a week ago, which was great, there's this beautiful lake near where my relatives live with a 10k trail around it through woods and shit. There was also a beach but obviously it was pretty slippery and I was too scared of fucking my knee up to run on it.
It's ridiculous how much of an impact drinking has on fitness though. Had quite a heavy day a couple of weeks ago (went to the Lord's test and we drank from 11am until the end of the England v Italy game at 1am) and I was devastatingly unfit for, like, several days.
alcohol is poison innit
off for a run now - see you in a bit
Distance m- 7.6km
Moving Time - 42:57
Pace - 5:40/km
that is my longest run so far - 10k is in sight!!!
I think the structure is key, otherwise I'd just give up after a week. Music is kind of shit on the podcasts but it's weirdly endearing.
Anyway, I keep getting this pain around my lower right leg- can't tell if it's shin splints or not. Happens after 2 or 3 mins of constant running, or extended brisk walking. Kind of like a build up of pressure and my leg feels really heavy, but it's just my right leg. Is this a shin splint?
Particularly when it's damp. No idea what it is, think it's just a muscle aching and it's one of those muscles that is really hard to stretch off properly to avoid it.
I might as well have just scrawled that in shit on a toilet cubicle wall mind you given how ill-informed I am about the subject.
I have had a couple of the songs as earworms as a result.
I'm getting cramps round my knees at the moment. A dull ache rather than a shooting pain. My legs feel pretty wobbly after last night's run :/
anticipating pain later
my run went fine. think i might finally do a measured 5k this weekend and see how i fare.
like the nike+ one or something that we could all use to do ourselves a wee DiS running community thing?
we tried that one fitocracy thing but it didn't really work out huh
it's a bit weird, it doesn't actually do anything. I can't stop logging my exercise in to it though, but it achieves nothing.
like I said up there ^ somewhere, be good if we were all on Strava or summat so we could friend each other and check out each others runs. too many options though.
I'd be crazy to move from a website with 10 years of running logged on it. :/
I did this route and back again running/jogging a few lunch times:
Bear in mind there's some big hill action in the middle there:
That was 2006 I guess. Nuts to running, frankly.
But has anyone used one of those slendertone belt things? Do they work?
just keep eating less and exercising more, you'll get there.
Corporate Challenge next week...just realised that although i'm reasonably active i've not ran 5.6k in probably over a year. Should be ok but gonna have a test run at the gym today to see how the leg is. Might go run outside actually. hmm.
Good luck though!
it's every year, to me (and I'm sure everyone else participating) it's just a free-to-enter run. though yeah, event name is a bit ugh, though obviously as a DIRTY EVIL finance journo it'll be full of people i should say hello to.
Sums up the current situation on the level of proof available for/against pretty nicely
Just got an email headsup for the sale on at run4it.com which looks reasonable and I think there's one on at Decathlon, too.
so I went cycling last night instead. lovely sunny evening cycling down some country lanes
did the C2C a couple of years ago....much fun, however, running these last few months has shifted my flab much more than cycling ever did
just got back from my runs!
this thread is ace - lets keep it going forever - about one person in my real life has an interest in my new found love of running about, so it is nice to share here
GO TEAM DIS RUNNERS
Just went for the first run I've been on since 2011, when I had a running period for about 3 months then moved and nothing happened.
What are recommendations in terms of running apps then? The ones that log your maps and times etc? There was a small discussion earlier but I could to understand it. I have Strava on my phone as it's the only one is heard of, what are the advantages/disadvantages of them? Or are they all kid of the same? Which has the most users here and in real life?
does the job for me.
the gps tracking on it can be really shonky - but that's the only negative. it can be a bit of a big negative at times though. Oh, also the calorie measurements are way too high. may or may not be of interest to you. I had to reduce my weight from 70kg to 50 to get it to create (what I estimate to be) a much more accurate calorie burn.
Get the bad out the way first.
there's a load of Premium stuff that seems like it would be pretty cool, but it's £35 a year which seems a bit much for unnecessary extras. if I win the lottery I'll try it out.
here's my profile, if you want to have a poke about: http://www.strava.com/athletes/3446547
(I think you should be able to see lots of stuff). also - add me if you've already got it
I also have Nike, which is good and fun - but if I hadn't logged 3 years worth of running on it before I got Strava I would just use Strava.
I haven;t used anything else.
There ends my comparative study of running apps.
it's the only thing i use - tho i am a bit of a novice
look at how cool i am here
Added you both.
shall we keep it?
get your Strava profiles sorted!
it keeps crashing mid-run =(
SWITCH SWITCH SWITCH SWITCH!
I have a Garmin Forerunner 405 which automatically uploads my runs to here:
Then via this site: http://www.copymysports.com/ I imported all my old data to Runkeeper & Strava (Strava only goes back 3 months) and set it up to automatically synchronise between the accounts.
Then when that whole Fitocracy thing kicked off after new years, I synched it with Runkeeper: http://runkeeper.com/apps/fitocracy/4445
So now I get all of those sites automatically updated and can use whatever stat shit they have built in without thinking about it.
There's all sorts of migration / synchronisation stuff out there. Seems to be that Runkeeper is the best one to have as your golden source since it works so well synchronising with other apps.
You got a particular example? I don't mind taking a look.
I'm using Strava and my lady is using map my run, I'd quite like to have some sort of equal ground that we can use. I don't like using Map my run and she has a lot of stored runs, but some nice comparison thing would be lovely (NOT IN A COMPETITIVE WAY).
which may be an even simpler way than what I mentioned above, but doesn't include mapmyrun and doesn't have automatic synchronisation unless you pay.
www.syncmetrics.com has got synchronisation with Garmin Connect, Map My Fitness, Strava, Runkeeper etc. haven't used it personally, but looks like just what you need (may my run is part of map my fitness, right?).
I'll have a look at this tonight. Thank you baby xx
i think there's something wrong with my lungs though. also i always worry im gonna have a heart attack.
It starts you off MEGA gently.
that sounds kind of annoying. i just used runner's world's beginners schedule and listened to music.
"warm up by walking briskly for 5 mins"
then after 5 mins it'll say RUN etc etc. It's not annoying, it tells you exactly when to run and when to walk. The one I downloaded even turns yr music app down slightly when someone's talking so you can hear it then back up again when they're done.
just did my best 5k effort!
Distance - 5.0km
time - 25:24
pace - 5:06/km
i did my 5th 5K last night...havent been timing myself tho.
my left heel bluddy kills today though.
4 miles in 30 mins back home, opposed to the usual 3 in ~25 round highgate hills.
Calves are soooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrre...
Buutttt....i've had to get an inhaler as the hayfever is KILLING ME and i pretty much die an hour after I get back from the run :(
we are all doing awesome!
self/group appreciation of runners' velociraptor calves
I've not even been back at it that long and they're getting monstrous
gonna get a replacement this month and see if that helps...
i feel your pain
tell me about it. My legs are really lean and not bulky (yet), but I've had so many comments about my muscle definiton in the last two weeks since I upped my trianing. Inclduing A PARTNER at my firm who asked me where I was gong the other day and I said 'running then bodypump' and he said 'well you don';t get calves like tahht fomr sititing at your desk eating monster munch, do you?'. completely innocently meant but made me think because i'd rather my calvbes were unremarkable thanks. And a random last night stopped me in the street to ask me if I dqanced because my calves looked like a dnacer's. Is this meant to be flattering? i'd just rathe people didn't comment at all and now i'm para that I need to switch back to just yoga, which kept me lean and fit and nobody ever commented about my legs. PARA SKETCH.
also I am running but have totally failed to stop eatingdrinking like a killer whale, so my things are about bursting out of my jeans. quite like it tbqh
(I feel like my shoudlers and back are an upside down triangle) but i am lifting quite a lot of weights and I really needed to gain some weigh so that is good What if I start getting a big vein in the back of my calves, arrrgh, I would actually top myself.
(My friend last night told me look like Jet from gladiators but better tits and hair. THanks stacey.)
only been at it for 4 / 5 months tho
get yr speed on.
it sounds like a bit of a bother tbh
FARTLEK FRIDAY! FARTLEK FRIDAY!
not liking this rain tho really
In the rain. Not actually a professional athlete, not trainign for anything, so why do I make myself do this?
five sprint intervals. (sprintervals, if you will....but I won't). 3 of them below 3min/km. not for very long though, 300-500 meters.
I feel sick now.
pretty rainy out there - very very wet
i'm doing about 100 meter sprints, might mix it up next week and try some longer, slightly slower intervals, still not sure i'm doing them right really
I don't think the idea is to burn out doing them though, it's fitting in repetitions that yields results
Going for one tonight and it's going to kill me. So disheartening.
you will love it!
Hey, all of you, how good is brisk walking as exercise? I've been walking back from the office (six miles) a few times a week and am finding myself a lot more achey the following day than I am after a run. Is that normal?
i'm pretty uninformed so take this with a pinch of salt, but i guess you are using different muscles / parts of muscles when you walk than when you run, so it sounds fine and normal to me.
and then a bit of hill work and then sack it off entirely till Tuesday.
Did 7k the other night (reasonably fast and hilly too) and not a single twinge from my iliotibial band, and that was without my orthotics, so I wonder if I'm just cured??? Or if I just don;t feel pain anymore. I like feeling pain, need more pain.
I have some ridiculous blisters from some heels i wore the other day so i'm not sure how well i'll get on actually.
Got back up to doing 30+ minutes on Tuesday so my runs are feeling worth the effort. Can start pushing to improve my speed now.
Got some new routes around where I live which has made a big difference too - I kept doing the same 2 routes all the time and was getting really bored.
is the options of routes. It's a very liberating feeling.
Try to go every two days. Still starting out so we'll see how it goes. One day I might be a fitty.
- one marathon
- two half marathons
- two 10ks
In a bit of a lull right now as there's lots of sport on telly (plus it's nicer in summer to sit around and drink), down to two runs per week, but I'll get back into it post-world cup. One more half marathon lined up at present, might try and find some more 10ks to do as I find them pretty easy, plus they make for good markers + motivators for doing longer distances. Would be nice to do some more marathons next year now that I know how to train well for them.
Plateaued at doing 2/3 11-12k runs a week, need some incentive to up my distance. Although it's not till April.
Setback last week as I went off visiting folks instead of running and was drinking/smoking a lot more than usual
Really enjoying it so far though, the progress/levelling up stimulates the compulsive part of my brain I think. And it's still giving me helpful good feels for the rest of the evening that I mentioned upthread.
is it week five that you do the first continuous run?
that's a landmark!
I might've been able to do it from the start (shit style) but it's nice to feel like I'm levelling up!
Plus doing some other basic excersise is actually making a noticeable difference to my body, so that's good.
all the cool kids use it
then someone told me i'd lost loads of weight
WHAT A DAY
something is BOUND to go wrong soon. I reckon i'll get ill.
THIS IS A JOKE - DO NOT TAKE SERIOUSLY
buying trainers - is there a specific type/brand to go for? presuming converse aren't passable...
also (girls advice please) sports bras - anything specific to look for?
probs worth going to a special run shop and having them check out your gait. if you've got fallen arches or something you'll run funny and could get injured so they will recommend you shoes that will support you properly. i'm a bit of a novice so it might all be balls, but everyone i know recommended i get some proper shoes from a proper run shop before i started
might do that then, although I could just start cycling instead seems less equipment needy
do like the idea of running - how much are these special run shop trainers? on average like
anywhere between £30 - £150?
I wouldn't shit myself about this too much if you're just starting. don't run in converse ffs though
you don't wanna be running in shit trainers, get shin splints, be put off etc.
i spent loads on mine as an incentive to do it
but then i didn't actually use them for about 2 yrs - it's hard to know if you are going to take to it i guess
and shoes so shit they'll ruin you, esp when you're at max running 15k a week. I think it's become a bit of a "thing" that people feel they have to recommend, but I've only used that kind of shoe once, and really there was v little difference between them and any other shoe I've run in. I've also known a couple of people who've gotten recommendations and suddenly found themselves having problems, so *shrug*
I guess in the end I find it pretty hard to believe that everyone who can't afford that sort of top level gear is doomed to horrible injuries, etc.
I use a Panache sports bra and its the best one i've had. I've tried shock absober brand before but it wasn't as good as Panache..mainly cause they are DD+ (waheyyy!). But a lot of people I know just use a regular bra and a sports bra/tight crop top over the top. Just find whatever is comfortable!
mine are dd+ too, and definitely need some proper structured support :)
does everyone here have enormous waps?
but its well worth the money. think they're only about £36! GOOD LUCK x
I've been thinking about taking up running as I don't want to be a big lump when the season starts again.
I don't mind doing the odd organised 10K, but really hate running for running's sake on a regular basis as I find it so boring (same goes for going to the gym and just about all other types of exercise).
What do people do to enjoy it (NB, I really don't like listening to music when I run)?
Might just up my swimming to compensate instead, to be honest (did a mile last night before dinner).
hard to say anything smarter than that, really - I like how it feels when I run, I like how it's quite meditative (though that took work), I like how I feel afterward.
Interesting thing to try and explain, really.
though it'd be nice if I could change this.
i don't really do anything to enjoy running, i just like it i guess
listening to awesome music
running nice routes - along the sea, up hills past sheep as the sunsets (things like that)
gamifying the experience through apps like strava that gives you little achievements for beating your previous times etc
setting goals so that i'm constantly being challenged
varying my routine (one 5k seafront run ( each week trying to get a better time), one long run with hills, one fartlek session each week)
things liek that i guess
But then again i'm pretty spoilt. I run from Blackfriars to Lambeth bridge/vauxhaul bridge in my lunch break so its a lovely view and run. I also have a partner to go with which makes it a hell of a lot easier and more motivation.
I don't listen to music because I have someone to run with that I can chat to. We pretty much talk the whole time to distract each other.
I just feel AMAZING after. Like I can't really explain it but every single time I am shocked and amazed at how fit i am and how much I can run...and that novelty never really wears off because I always push myself a little bit more and gain more every time. Its weird.
"I just feel AMAZING after. Like I can't really explain it but every single time I am shocked and amazed at how fit i am and how much I can run...and that novelty never really wears off because I always push myself a little bit more and gain more every time. Its weird."
so much this!
bloody love going for a longish run in winter, and coming back and crashing out so the freezing outside of your body is slowly warmed back up by the hot, exercised inside.
my ankles feel a bit fat and stiff and my shins are a bit splinty. Trying to do 100k in a month, just for the sake of it. Seems like a good distance target. Done 63 so far, but I may have injured myself in the process. Turns out it might be a bit more of a challenge than simply doing the distance.
25 mins or so I think but I wasn't properly timing it.
Did 5k yesterday and took a walk for a bit in the middle just to be cautious. Next time, I'M COMING TO GET YOU, 5K!
rather than just running till my breath fails, so I'm actually exercising and not just trying to be able to run.
Have lost 6kg in 3 weeks.
I haven't got scales, but generally, I fit better in my clothes. Have been eating well recently too. HIGH5
Going to aim to lose 4 more kg then I'll go back to eating a normal amount and running and hopefully will just stay the same weight forever.
it does start to get easier too
Had a month of so with lots of holidays and boozing and I really couldn't be bothered. But started running home from work which is 6.5k, three times a week. Still pretty fucking hard in this heat but I can't believe what good it does to my mood after only a few runs. I've just been focussing on completing the run for now but will probably start to push on time soon (running in the region of 5:20/km currently)
for first time in a while (world cup!) set off too early and suffered in the last half.
doing it again tonight but a bit hungover so will be happy to just get round
Its keeping my mood from going full meltdown
started at the start of week 2; was tough. I hope I do finally get to the end of this.
keep the faith!
I'm doing lots of stretching but every time I go running I have to guess what part of my lower body will hurt like fuck...
which i didn't really rest enough, and kept on re-injurying myself as i went back out. had a month of one run a week where i kept on fucking it up, and then a total rest for two weeks. and i've been fine since then (fingers crossed)
you might just be going a bit hard, or maybe over-striding?
the main injury was on the muscles on the outside of the knee.
My aim is to just do the run for the length required even if I'm not going very fast...
Too hot. Went to HIIT training last night anyway. Friday is the next big one. Aiming for about 8.5k!
time was just over an hour but I didn't really do any training and it was an early start & long drive to get there so I'm pretty pleased. Mostly just glad I finished it to be honest, it was muggy as hell! Great route though, I'd recommend it for anyone looking next year.
off to do 9km
let's see how this goes
fuck you 9k!
Distance - 9.1km
Moving Time - 49:46
Pace - 5:29/km
pretty hot out there
WELL DONE EVERYONE!!!
So much running. Kudos and sexier waists all round.
This weather is amazing for it, especially here in Brighton by the sea. except for the wind. Poor Budget will be doing half his 9k into a 10mph wind. doesn't sound like much, but it increases the effort a lot.
Don't fail us Budget.
p.s. Everyone who is not on Strava get on Strava and join the club!
and record a truly horrible, too-hot too-slow time =D
exciting. I am excited for you.
Seems a bit silly otherwise.
But I've been using Runkeeper for a while and vainly don't want to lose my sum totals and comparisons. Is it much better?
does anyone do supplementary stuff for running at the gym?
atm I'm doing that quads machine type thing, 8x8x8 on about 50kg trying to build up slowly. meant to keep things balanced and save your knees.
and press-ups/sit up/lunges/burpeees/squats etc stuff. I do it at home, k-bells are good for that. Good weights exercise without the need for a gym.
12 and 16kg kettlebell weights circuits are quite sufficient load bearing exercises to supplement my running - stop me being too scrawny, even out all the leg exercise. I haven't been doing myuch at all recently, but when I fit 2 sessions in a week (of 10-12 exercises 3 times) it makes big improvements to my running speed and stamina. Not to mention the tidy muscle definition.
but just started doing press ups and sit ups at home, if i stick with that i'll branch out to pull ups and squats and stuff
GONNA GET WELL BUFF AND RIPPED INNIT
do you mugs take water with you on, say, a 30 min run?
I can't be arsed, am I going to die?
so annoying carrying anything when you run
wearing a bag = :@@@
like, if I do a half-marathon, will it require a bumbag full of stuff for the journey? I don't really want to wear a bumbag.
I didn;t used to liek carryign a water bottle, but got used to it pretty quick when the benefits made themselves clear. I know a few people who run without water, but I couldn't do it.
I'm starting to run home from work with a full backpack on the odd occassion to see if I can get used to it.
I make such a fuss. Leave everything behind at work, carry nothing but water. have to have spare clothes at work for when I arrive, lunch already sorted. hate running with a backpack. Granted, the ones I have may not be suitable for running - the chafing and bouncing/banging into my back is horrendously distracting. Could learn to live with it though I suppose, but I have a good system now, albiet a very fussy one.
Can never get three runs in a week if I don't run to/from work so I have to do all this.
The weight of the bag isn't really an isssue, it;s just the bobbing about. Drives me nuts.
especially for a 30 minute run in this heat. you will vapourise.
less dramatically, you will probably have a horribly dry mouth, pounding head, lose focus, sack it off and go home early.
even if you only mouth rinse, it will keep you going.
over that i would carry water.
this is pretty much how I felt.
as Goatmeat says above though be wary if it's dead dead hot.
make sure you have some water before going out and you'll be fine.
If you're doing longer distances, then yes, but if you are well hydrated, you should be fine?
I am clearly much more fussy/delicate than I thought. Can't even leave the house without a bottle, let alone run.
yes i do take water - i didn't for a while, and but then - in the lunch runs, i was getting a really dry horrible mouth at about 4 km, so yeah - love a bit of liquids me
about not eating the breakfast bit of my new diet today. Circuits at lunch, had to stop after one circuit as i was dizzy. swam instead. Ate a bigger lunch tho so i can do a decent spin on the wattbike later. Here's to shedding the blub!
Can't get under 48mins for my 10k which is really irking me.
SLOW at about 55mins.
SO HOT. Almost died. Didn't take water (don't like carrying anything)
get a doughnut or horseshoe bottle.
Would be perfect if it could just find its GPS signal faster and more consistently
http://www.t3.com/features/best-running-watch may help
it's good - same as maosm though, does seem to take a while to kick in.
cheapie 5 quid jobber with a stopwatch function (ie any watch)
phone for gps tracking.
as much as I like checking the pace/distance/time on my watch the voiceover updates from the running app are quite adequate. it's a bit excessive. Just set 1k or 500m updates and that will be enough to keep you informed/on target.
I did 4.26 miles last night.
How about YOU convert THAT for a change?!
I blame the hot weather and a hangover.
Absolutely love the shit rap song at the start of the first five minute pull.
but then sort of sacked most of the rest of the run off - running fast (ish) totally kills me!
was hoping to get below 12 minutes, but it's a good start. fartleks are paying off. need to build my stamina at speed now.
after I get my 100km in a month...looking unlikely now. got about 9 free days left to do 34km.
another dream dies.
But I fuckin' did it. Well done to everyone who did.
I have earned a lot of cold beer.
everyone who did this at three in the afternoon has my undying respect. Frankly I'm now a bit afraid of you.
It's pretty frustrating because I'm trying not to put too much pressure on it, which is working, but it means I'm going pretty slowly and I reckon i could go a lot faster.
I should really take it to some kind of doctor. Hey ho.
Also I'm a pretty amateur runner because:
I run on grass. I thought this was supposed to be better for your knees/legs.
My trainers are about 3 years old and falling apart.
My gait is probably awful and I haven't checked my breathing technique.
My shorts seem to be really loose and almost falling down.
To be honest I kind of relish being a degenerate runner.
It means your gait is terrible, which means your fucking up your legs.
not sure of how to approach it
More helpfully, have you tried, eg:
1) running at 80-90% for 90 secs - 2 mins
2) pause for 30 secs - 1 min
3) repeat 1) and 2) three more times
4) pause for two or three minutes
5) repeat 1) and 2) for more times
If you have access to a track or, similar set distance, replace step 1) with a lap. There are recommended run v pause ratios out there if you want to be specific.
Run (80-90%) 30 secs - Walk 30 secs - Run 1 min - Walk 30 secs - Run 1 min 30 secs - Walk 30 secs - Run 2 mins - Walk 30 secs - Run 2 mins 30 secs - Walk 30 secs - Run 3 mins - Walk 30 secs - Run 2 mins 30 secs - Walk 30 secs - Run 2 mins - Walk 30 secs - Run 1 min 30 secs - Walk 30 secs - Run 1 min - Walk 30 - secs - Run 30 secs
The size of the steps and the overall size of the pyramid can be varied to suit (eg increase or reduce pauses depending on ability or comfort, or increase or reduce the lengthiest run at the top of the pyramid depending on goals or available time).
Those two should up your natural pace.
If you're not already doing so, some longer than 10 km runs (say, an hour and a quarter, or so) should help with stamina.
I feel like a total chris_is_cool, now, so feel free to ignore the above, but look up some proper info on repetitions and pyramids.
*5) repeat 1) and 2) for more times, obv.
just once a week - Fartlek Friday.
recently my my weeks have involved a long 10k+ run with some bastard hills, a fartlek session, a full tilt 3k and a 5-7k to test out the gains made from 10k stamina and fartlek speed.
It is working.
Got my 5k time down from 22 to 20 minutes, and 10k time to 50 to 45 minutes. Should/could probably be making better progress, but some is better than none.
swears by this book: http://www.runnersworld.com/race-training/run-less-run-faster
it is called Run Less, Run Faster, but still involves 3 runs a week, so no idea how many times the people it is aimed at have been running.
it's possible that a single word answer would have gone a long way towards hunting at where to find improvements: HILLS.
Kinda came from nowhere as I wasn't particularly straining for a particularly fast time, but it means that the long held 45 min 10k dream is back in the frame. Sure, it was only a ~4k ~18 min run, but I only need to string two and a half of those together and it's mission accomplished.
Gonna have to give credit to the basic hill training I've done over the last two weeks.
slightly disappointed with it, but in the boiling heat it wasn't so bad. I was with the 40 minute man til over halfway and then faded massively on the last 4k.
Probably aim to do it in under 40 next year I expect
hungover and in humid conditions.
I bought these yesterday:
Yes, in BRIGHT PINK. They're a bit see-through. Oh god what have I done.
and this woman came up to me and she was like YOU KNOW THE BRIGHT COLOURS ARE HALF PRICE???? I said yeah but can I bring myself to wear them?? Her response: OF COURSE! IT'S EMPOWERING!!!!!
I've been conned.
my running kit is uniformly black & white, but then I got this top and it might have put me at the start of a slippery slope:
(still no idea how I justified the price to myself but nvrmnd)
They ride up and (teamed up with the matching vest) it's all a bit more skimpy than I'd planned for. Got my pb pace in 'em on the first wear, though, so the local townsfolk are just gonna have to put up with it.
noone really derserves to see that, but sometimes I have no choice.
It was quite a poor bit of decision making given the temperature/humidity compounded all the more by playing football yesterday. I ache.
7.3k in 31:40. that's the hills and speed training paying off.
There was no hot water in the shower, but I still got out sweating. It's hot out there.
Done 73 of my 100km this month, but only 10 days to go. I may not fail after all....?
(aside from playing football on Sunday instead)
Have increased the distance slightly every night and have felt okay doing them. Why the fuck am I still the exact same weight as I was a fortnight ago!?
so you could be trimmer (did you measure your waist before? are your clothes baggier?) and healthier, but at your natural weight
But I dropped 6kg in the first few weeks of doing this and just haven't been able to shift any more subsequently, it's a bit galling.
shouldnt really focus on just weight loss.
you know youre healthier.. youre running further.. getting slimmer.
no doubt you will look better naked etc.
Will be tough to shift these next 4kgs though I can tell.
the initial bloat is easy to get shut of and then you get to a stage I think where it's probably more about diet. I just bloody love beer and bread though.
exercise'll make you stronger and fitter but it's never helped dropped weight without watching what goes in my gob.
Aside: my thighs are now too big for half my jeans and I LOVE IT
Don't drink at all
WTF!!!! That's crazy low, I'm surprised you even have enough energy to go running.
Yeah not sure why you're not shedding the pounds.
you'll have the odd plateau.
and keep in touch with how you're feeling, that's a v low amount of calories, so be a bit careful.
Just want to blitz it as quickly as possible really, get down to a decent weight and then just maintain it.
Sure you're a babe fella just go for steady loss and dim the lights when you get jiggy for a bit.
I'd maybe suggest upping your calorie intake to around 1900 as you're obviously not getting something that your metabolism needs.
What's in this 1200 calories?
2x toast for breakfast (wholemeal granary shit)
Lunch: A prawn based noodle salad, popped crisps and a weight watchers snack
Dinner: Usually an omelette or some cereal or something
Have also been having a apple, carrot, celery, cucumber, ginger and kale juice most evenings as well
That actually all sounds delicious.
Fucking boring though
give up interesting, and by interesting I mean carb based, evening meals.
is extreme hunger causing you to sleep-eat?
Got that sassy little tune from the last run in my head. The one that sounds a little bit like Misteeq with some random "WOAHHHH"s in the background
if you can run in this heat youll be laughing come autumn :)
This morning was fine - went out before work, 6.15ish. Was gorgeous.
Quickest in ages then almost collapsed because of the heat. Summer running is proper shit.
Can't go running before that even in winter. Miss getting wrapped up in the winter and going out in the cold. Best time for running.
the house for a run, after cooking and eating dinner and sitting down to chill out for a bit, that's it for me.
normally starving and the idea of running for an hour on a hungry belly is pretty much torture.
I've been leaving at around 2030 or so, the heat and hunger would make it impossible to go earlier
run + shower = best sleeping aid you will ever own.
7am clifftop run in a North Cornwall. 10k in 56 minutes. Slow for me, but some of it was vertical and I had to use my hands to get around precarious boulders and foot-width paths. Downhill involved jumping over rocks and cracks in the path. Loads of animals and birds around, sun coming up, mist still hanging between the cliffs. Finished with a bit around the beach, making sure the soft sand finished off what the hills had spared. Wonderful stuff.
about one of the guys representing England in the marathon at the Commonwealth Games: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/get-inspired/27994073
amazing! That's like a DiSer going on to run for England in 6 years!
including my own shit version of the 5-2 diet (basically there's no way i could eat under 500 kcals a day and not collapse) and im going to try couch to 5k. but i really struggle with stuff like this and find it hard to not turn it into an unhealthy obsession.
I got off cigarettes and getting obsessed with running is the only thing that holds me back from going back to them. Great bug to catch.
Get on the C25K roller coaster!
You have to take a day's rest between each run so it's not like you'd be going out running twice a day immediately or anything.
when you have a poke around Strava, you come across people like this and get everything put into a whole new perspective:
Did anyone else find the step from week 3 to 4 a bit of a fucking killer?
If you can do those two five minutes you can do anything, relatively speaking.
I was as exhausted finishing today's run as I was finishing week 1 run 1... and I got through that
Was going for my normal run in the searing heat which probably wasn't a good idea anyway and I'd only had a bowl of Sultana Bran all day. Came over a bit faint about 3k in and my heart was absolutely racing (way more than it normally would be), cut it short at that point. Wasn't fun.
you should probably, like, rein this in a bit
Wasn't thinking it through at all.
1200 calories would leave most people feeling light headed without tying in hour long runs. Get an extra 500 calories in there and you'll be reet.
I always have a snack 1-2 hours before a run
got back from hols yesterday
did some nice (slow-ish as was running with a friend) hilly runs in spain, and lots of swimming, and then a fast hilly run yesterday in lewes, will be interesting to see how that week has affected me.
going to try to do my first 10k tomorrow - and then i've got my 10k race in about 3 weeks
bit worried about it as it has an elevation gain of 140 M over 10k, and my previous highest gain is 117 m over 3.6 k
going to try a really hilly route on Saturday to try and up my confidence with that
only ran four times this year and twice this month but I keep having to stop and walk for a bit which I never used to do. Gonna aim for running at least once a week and hopefully I'll be able to do my usual 4-5 mile route without stopping and can then build up from there. Was pretty pleased that I beat all girls on a strava segment yesterday.
fourth out of four last week, get in
Tweaked my knee fucking awfully (in bed LOL but that's another story or something) and I was paranoid about going back too early.
Seems like a good decision because I absolutely nailed a 25 minute run, lovely weather for it too, pleasantly warm but not searing. Feel awesome now.
I think I am faster than I thought.
Pasta earlier in the day helped me out, did 6k pretty comfortably. Good stuff.
You need to fuel your runs. Glad to hear you are eating a bit more. Was a bit worried about you for a moment back there.
when I was in my own world thinking about stuff, a car beeped it's horn really loudly next to me then laughed when I looked at them. They kept doing it to everyone else they passed down the road as well. #japes #nottheDiSer
Longest I've ever run. Felt pretty sore this morning.
but my friends phone died so we have no idea how long it took us but felt AMAZING. Prob about 48 mins or something along those lines.
I've been STARVING though. I can't eat enough food!!
Not sure I'm happy with that. Then running solo for 2 weeks whilst my buddy is on holibobs. SCARED.
can people shout at me for motivation
was going up some pretty steep hills and had to stop for a 5 minute rest at 5k - and then managed another 4.7k before knocking it on the head, still an overall 9.7 km with an elevation gain of 181m is not too bad i don't think. think i need to pace myself a bit better over hilly sections
was on holiday last week, so was doing short hilly runs in spain, and i'm doing a nice 5k along the seafront tomorrow lunch time, will be interesting to see if doing a week of hills pays off on the flats at all. WATCH THIS SPACE!
but still a relative running noob.
3 weeks in, and I've got up to 2 miles without stopping (but completely done in after that) and finding it a bit tough to push myself further - any tips?
even if it's only by a bit
I'm on week 4 of C25K and I'm on about two miles' running now. so you're not doing too badly.
Don't feel you have to do it all flat out. Run a couple of minutes at a much slower pace, get yourself together then go at it again. That's all C25K does for you, but in very strict style.
Also just go for a flat out top speed mile every now and then. Speed play will work wonders for your stamina.
first one back was pretty brutal, hopefully gonna do a decent one today.
109km in July. Probably won't go out tomorrow, so that's the final score. Was aiming for 100. Finished it with a lovely but difficult 10k back up the Rumps Point in Polzeath, the opposite direction to my first run earlier in the week. So many farmland gates to open and close added so many precious seconds to my time, but I am not fussed about that. The hills were the hard part. Next week I will be back to the flat of Brighton seafront. So, same as Chris Budget, interested to see what effect two weeks running over all these hills will have on my regular times.
I also started on Runtastic's press and push up apps, done a couple of sessions of each, starting from level 2. Push ups are much harder than sit up, my arms are wrecked.
Has not been an especially relaxing holiday, but it's what I wanted to do with it and I feel great for it.
Might need to buy some more shoes after this. So much loose-rock hills and sandy surf have taken their toll.
ad well one on acheiving your goal.. thats very very good.
ma0sm does more without even trying. I had to try, but I did it. Woo!
Those apps are to increase the number of reps you can do in one go. It counts your reps for you, press ups by pressing your nose to the screen (easy) sit ups by holding the phone to your chest (awkward, but I use my heart monitor strap to hold it which makes it no problem).
Gives you a number of reps to do, counts your rest period down then starts you off again. Seems pretty handy so far. Had then for chin ups and squats too, and all the apps linkup with all your progress visible in each one which is nice and tidy. Is also full of stats and badges if you like those kinds of things.
I tend to do press and sit ups with all my runs, but not to make progress with them. Using these apps to get more out of them than just a warm up.
Check them out, give them a go!
only on level one tho as i am a wimp
well done on the 100k! that's awesome!
completed my first 10km on saturday!
Distance - 10.0km
Moving Time - 58:59
Pace - 5:53/km
Elevation - 175m
well hilly route so i'm pleased with that (especially after my failure to complete it last tuesday)
going for a 5km at lunch today - hoping to beat my prs, bit tired tho so it might not go too well
we shall see
STILL LOVING IT!
here's my exciting route
after all those Cornish hills. Started a bit too fast, was a little over-excited and totally burnt out for the final km so it was a bit of a sorry finish. Forgot to have my pre-run power snack, which I swear by, so I am blaming the lack of staminising (?) nuts for the flagging finale.
Final score; 5km, 21:52.
Good to be back on the seafront, but I am sad to be away from holiday. loved that place. also, work is 100% shit.
5km - 24:19!!!!!!!!!
that beats my previous pr by about ONE WHOLE MINUTE!
FUCK YOU WIND!
ISSUE THOUGH. I've started to get chafing. My sports bra is rubbing below my boobs, in the middle. So much so that its cut it a little and is sore and a bit bleedy. WHAT DO I DO. I've bought a new sports bra though but is this just something you get when you run? Various things rubbing?
but in terms of general chafing have you tried using coco butter or something like that?
cause now its broken skin and just keeps getting worse every time I do exercise/run.
I'm not a coco salesman honest, I just used to have a lot of eczema when I was younger and it helped a lot (and still does actually).
I swear by it to avoid joggers nipple and the like in wet weather.
IT HURTS SO BAD. Scabbed up and everything :( will be going to boots to get bandages so i can do interval training today
when I do sit-ups. will get me some of this bodyglide. it;s
quite expensive though - it better work!
I want to get back to something approaching my peak. Out again tomorrow for a recovery run. It'll be painfully slow.
how many hours a day did he run? I'm going to say 12, which is a pace of 12 min/mile / 7 min/km (I think, if I calculated it right). That is fast!
Of course, I did just make all that up, but still. that is insane.
getting out of bed?
getting your kit on?
leaving the house?
noo i did actually run, just got severe old man legs and gave up about halfway through what i usually run
just can't do it in the morning, maaaan
I am not sure there is really much point to it, but for £4 I'll give it a look.....will report back.
(sounds insincere, isn't insincere)
Anyone fancy a challenge?
Loser losing app more like (for losers)
fancy a challenge?
Or are you scared? BUCUUUUUUUCK! BUCK BUCK BUUUUUUUUCK!
get on Strava!!!
hope you're ready!
you lot are fast!
seems a shame to spoil it with any more runs
a few IRL people using it. can you just run like three of these things at once?
cna't be arsed manually updating any of these things, but might be possible soonish http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/10/nikefuel-integration-myfitnesspal-runkeeper-strava/
just realised what you mean
that my shoulders and arms started getting sore just from lack of oxygen D=
Did make it too the top though.
Then tried to do it again but only got 1/3 of the way up.
Nice to have a goal I guess!
christ, such a jock these days
I reckon it's gonna be treadmill runs for me from here on in, the new flat hasn't got anywhere particularly pleasant to run around, shame really as I was getting into a good routine at my old place.
er, can anyone actually back up my halfarsed intuition that running on a treadmill is much less taxing than running outside? tvm
I'll be aiming to do a lot longer though
I find outside running easier as I tend to push myself a lot harder on a treadmill. Being able to turn up the pace and run outside of your comfort zone is easier and pretty good for conditioning. Convinced it's a million times better for your knees too over long distances.
Dull as shit though.
just lifting your legs and whipping them forward
rather than having to drive yourself forward off the ground though?
It's exactly the same motion as outside. The only difference is there is no variance in weather or incline in the road. Accepted logic is 1% incline is exactly the same. I generally run a 10k at 48m outside but push myself to around 45m in the gym so definitely is easier to go faster but not in terms of effort just in terms of being able to see your split times and have a machine up your pace.
while you just flail on top, innit.
Which is why I do 2-3 sessions on a treadmill and one outside. Pretty much injury free now.
Outside running is definitely way more fun though. Treadmills are a chore.
so it is easier because that's why it doesn't shred your knees?
or it isn't because that isn't how physics work mate?
you have to exert forward momentum on a treadmill, or you get pulled off the back. The effort you have to exert to keep up with the pseed of the treadmill (ie, runnign pace) is the same effort you'd have to exert outside on the road to achieve the same pace.
if you try jumping straight up and landing and jumping up again, you'd still get whipped off the back, you have to push yourself forward to stay on.
This is a very unscientific explanation, but I think it works. There is a lot of research on treadmill running.
whereas outside its not. AND you're pushing yourself forward where the treadmill is doing a lot of work to make you move along.
I DONT KNOW
i only use treadmills for interval training
A new PB milestone for the Club!
anyone want to draw something for it?
that grey flag makes me sick in my mouth.
Can't you just use balonz or something? Anything's better than the grey flag.
suggest a different one though, if you want. might just make everyone Admins in that club
by getting too excited/competitive about this
(i like strava for cycling, with the sections and comparisons etc. but still unsure about betraying sports tracker for my running. don't really dig the idea of comparing sections of my runs with other recorded times - i'm all about comparing my overall pace with previous runs of similar distance/location. hmmm. guess i'll just have to give it a whirl. the 'club' aspect ought to be a good motivator.)
I wasn't too bothered at first but they're a good way of making you push yourself hard through the middle of a longer run just to see if you can beat yourself over that little bit - and once you start getting a whiff of the top 10 you might really put your head down.
Makes them seem utterly pointless. And that's ignoring the woman who apparently managed 0.2 miles in 3 seconds across Blackfriars Bridge.
Just going for 30/40 minute runs from now on. More straightforward and a bit tougher tbh.
My knees are beginning to hurt though, probably need less generic shoes.
ten quid says they hurt like a cunt tomorrow tho.
can I log a run from a saved route just on the website then?
can I now add that to my activity log?
i don't think so - routes are, i think, just for mapping out future runs, so you can work out distances and stuff
it's annoyingly bike-centric... what does it do that's better than the others? (genuine question)
not like you to plow into something like this without extensive research first!
also - sick hill!
final aim is to just be able to do a half hour up and down it.
Helps for if the GPS fuck up or if you don't have a fancy phone. I don't think most others have the same competitive emphasis strava does?
I used to use run keeper and it meant I could just run with a Casio watch and then bang my time for whatever route in. It did feel like less hassle.
Love all the personal bests I can get at different distances
to run 25k in the next week starting from today or tomorrow but would like to try and do a challenge with me on it (don't even know if you can do this on strava)
(everyone who already runs this or more is excluded obv)
gonna make a nike+ account tonight mebbe
can't see anything on strava that lets you do this (can anyone help?)
As soon as you get nike plus search for me!
and you too catstro
Those are some real stats...
that's why i can't give up my Nike app and go exclusive with Strava
do i get a prize?
Up for that. I use Nike & Strava together. don;t like the voiceovers in Strava, Nike ones are much more useful, also, can;t give up all my Nike stats....so yeah,we can challenge. never done one before, not sure how they work. Strava is deffo missing good running challenges. In that club thing we can organise a group run, but it has to e in one place. would be much better to be able to set a day and distance and see who gets the best time over it, set an altitude gain challenge for the week - who can get over 500m, or something like that. they have all those for bike challenges as standard, running ones are always how far and 10k and half marathon and that's it. bit boring really.
do you win this thing by reaching 15miles first, or just by doing 15 miles in a week?
er, not that I care or anything
alright, yer on.
It's annoying that it doesn't let you start from when you set the challenge, you have to pick 'tomorrow', so I challenged Goatmeat early this morning, but my run this morning doesn't count and now I'm gonna be behind if he's resting today say and running tomorrow. But I suppose that's all part of it.
This week shall we just see if we can do the miles because I haven't ran that much in one week before and I don't want to fuck up.
but not since March at least
might do something a bit different tomorrow though
without getting cripplingly lost? I've been writing down directions in advance and still ending up at completely the opposite end of the bastard place to where I thought I'd be.
I've avoided the heath for that very reason (though I'd be coming at it from the other side?) Maybe soon we'll have good enough wearables to stop us getting lost...
For a half-marathon mountain run. Should be good. I can run the distance no problem, but I've only ever run on flat courses so the hills will be a challenge.
Only a strava club - get on it!
My ipod has a built in nike+ app so the effort involved in joining this would be 0. I have no interest in Strava as the effort levels would be greater than 0.
i can't get the calibration to work on my nike + app
i might turn it on when i go for my run today and see if a longer period of moving around does anything
Did a couple of treadmill runs recently and calibrated it at the end which seemed to have sorted it out.
no cycling bullshit for a start
it was fine
and whilst every other site has some sort of automatic synchronisation that means you can just have one update and the rest update automatically, Nike's the only one that doesn't have this working.
http://www.syncmetrics.com/ supposedly has it, but it doesn't work.
i never knew sprains could be so annoying...broke the 5 K barrier, much joy, then get a fucking sprain. depressing. hopefully start back on it in the next day or 2 . ugh.
what's your handle?
my handle - i think, is just my name
i don't think so
i have a picture of a scarecrow as my profile pic
Love you forever.
i will do some challenges on it with you lot in a couple of weeks tho (after my 10k) race - so will keep it for that
just got my 1km pb (4.10 /km) - but stupid strava didn't register it as a personal best
silly old strava
Here's a good challenge for us. I tried to write this, but it didn't turn out so great. maybe bvecasue it was only 1km worth of line (2km total distance though :|
It also took f.o.r.e.v.e.r.!
A crown to whoever can do it better.
this is amazing <3
thanks. seriously though, someone should do this better. It would probably be better over a bigger distance, but I didn't want to go that far. running home after work.
Incidentally - are me an Casoolare the only ones challenging each other in this Nike challenge? what happened to the rest of youze?
both of us, I think.
the Friends table thing on the homepage of the app is a bit silly - it always says "It's a dead heat!".....even when someone has done 3km more than me. Not sure what it's talking about there.
Not really a runner, but willing to give it a try if it's alreet.
i wasn't really a runner, in fact i wasn't a runner at all. started couch to 5 k in February , and now i run three times a week, last week i ran 24 km overall
i don't think i'd be running if i hadn't been eased into it with c25k
i was hooked by week 5 i think!
I'm not sure what I should be setting my sights for next.
Generally, LONGER and FASTER is the obvious step, but what's a good way to create and manage goals? How do I get to be the new ma0sm?
but what i actually did / do is
run one 5k each week along the same route, each week trying to increase my time by a little bit.
run one speedplay run each week - about 2.5 - 3.5 km, or one hill session
run one longer run each week at a slightly slower pace, starting at 5.5km, then increasing by .5km - 1km each week
it's a good point at which to start differentiating between a weekly long run, speedwork and general running.
I think I need to get a bit more organised.
What is a fartlek when it's not following through.
it literally means SpeedPlay.
It's basically a run where you keep switching speeds. Rather than doing defined intervals of 400m, you might run fast to the postbox, slow down until you've crossed the next junction, speed up a little until you go around the corner and so on. Essentially it's speedwork without any hard and fast rules.
sign up to a 10k race for an extra bit of motivation!
as your fast 5k training days. they were probably the one thing that helped my improve my speed last year. This year it's been all about Strava.
ran five miles (slowly) this morning
kicking E-C's arse round the block right now bd
It's great because the first two runs of the week are essentially about making you feel good about yourself. Isn't this lovely? Ten minute bursts are so easy for you now, aren't they. Now run for 25 minutes non-stop. Reminder: Running is pain, running is suffering.
Feels good. Next week: the same, but faster.
there we go.