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Neither me nor any of my friends in school liked or knew about comics. The closest we got to Batman was that cheesy American TV show. Now everyone seems to know the various ins and outs of X-Men and Iron Man and all that shit, and loves the films even into their 20s. I just couldn't give a shit.
but I do get why people like them. its just not for me
my answer is Radio 1
must really love the vocalisation 'oh'
comic books were /never/ mentioned by /anyone/ at my school.
the whole thing is very very odd indeed.
See also - gap years. Literally know no-one from school who went on one. No-one. Got to university and every cunt there was a year older than me and I was like 'You've been to Peru for a year? The fuck? I spent the summer working at McDonalds...'
Not quite full-on gap years. But, yeah, my summer of slogging early shifts in a sandwich factory felt anomalous.
There's room in this subthread for something about Glastonbury (or festivals in general), I reckon.
analysing promo pictures of a Batman film talking about how true it is to a specific illustrator's work. WTF!
I haven't found my lack of comics knowledge makes any difference to whether or not I enjoy a good film. The Dark Knight, for example, is a good film. Tim Burton's Batman is a good film. Iron Man is a good film. The Avengers is a good film. Batman Forever is NOT a good film, nor is Iron Man 2 or X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
Dunno why liking comics has any more bearing on it than having read the book does to seeing the adaptation of a book.
I think I was one of about five people into comics at school, and the reason was actually a pretty obvious one: all of use were 2 mins walk from the local library, which started stocking graphic novels when I was about nine.
It was a pretty good setup because it meant I could read all that stuff without having to be seen buying it in shops by the other kids at school/risk a beating etc.
And over the years I've kind of seen them as light relief to the 'real' literature and films and tv series, just something to read when my mind switches off a little. I have *always* taken stick for it. Even people who read the 'grown up graphic novels' rip out of the superhero comic fans.
And now, suddenly (well okay, past 10 years with gradual build-up), absolutely every cunt is telling me the historically significant batman story arcs and the inner politics of Marvel studios.
Ultimately it's a good thing but I'd quite like them all to take about 50 kicks to the balls/tits to retroactively apply all the bullying/abuse the nerd kids got at school.
Final note: anyone being a cunt about superhero films/comics but jizzing themselves into oblivion about GoT is fucking hilarious.
no one English called them comic books until all the Kevin Smith bellends swarmed in on our nerdy territory. They were just comics or graphic novels.
What annoys me is those people who were 'always into it' kicking off 'cos all their trendy mates are discussing who'd win out of Ant Man and Squirrel Girl over a pint in the pub. Everyone and their Mum's been into it since Reeve first pulled his undies over his pants. Most of us grew up watching Batman and X-Men animated series on a Saturday. The only difference is that it's become a bit more acceptable to discuss around women.
Now if you'd spent your formative years memorizing Warhammer character sheets or coding a text adventure version of your favourite David Eddings book on an Apple II, and that suddenly became hip I'd understand.
Films/tv series: sure. Who doesn't love Teri Hatcher/Dean Cain? Idiots that's who.
Reading comics, on the other hand, has been stigmatised forever.
PLUS the fact that you know who squirrel-girl is (unless she's been in films that I haven't seen?) betrays that you're a pretty big geek, so you're possibly trying to tell yourself it's cooler than it is :D
you're the D&D guy :D
As someone who plays M:TG and other such hobbies: accept it. You're a geek. You will never be One Of Them.
One Of Us.
might have carried a stigma among older generations as something new kids did that they didn't really understand (and hence dismissed as a waste of time like video games after it), but I don't really see that among my generation and younger. I've always seen it as almost a laddish thing to do. Someone my age might a have a stack of old Marvel comics on the rack beside their Top Gear magazines. I'm not trying to be all 'I'm a bigger geek than you', and I don't play M:TG so I've lost that one anyway, but Marvel and DC's output is shiny and alluring and hyper-commercial and has been for some time. More of a way for people who are usually left cold by fantasy and sci-fi to dip a toe into geek culture (ugh, hate that phrase) and gain a new, trendy label to slap on themselves. As someone who spent an awful lot of time as a kid in darkened rooms and getting the requisite amount of stick for that at school, I'm not having these fuckers muscling in on my hard-won 'geek' label, I tell you! Come back when you've sold that Beemer for a set of Blake's 7 figurines and memorized all the deities of the Forgotten Realms and we'll talk you set of bastards.
how old are you?
Because I've never met anyone ever with comics next to a stack of Top Gears.
Or cars in general for that matter.
cars and Top gear as amongst the most boring in society i literally have nothing in common with these people ever.
cos in the late 90's reading comics (ie Marvel etc) was certainly not laddy but seen as massively nerdy that even close friend who weren't into it would laugh at.
that the whole thing is a symbiotic marketing masterpiece by Hollywood and Marvel/DC. Much more of a tie-in consumption vibe to it all than an organic rise in popularity of a once niche interest.
Like, the cool stuff. I was more interested in Beano and Gerry Anderson comics if I was buying, but I'm glad they did now
I grew up in the 80s, I remember the very bad Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk and batman TV shows were very popular, superman films too obviously. The very good batman and xmen 90s cartoons were also popular.
I was very into comics, even used to go to the local comic shop at weekends and helped them sort stuff. Forbidden planet was my only reason to go to London.
You lot were probably too busy with pointless stuff like sport to appreciate comics.
my dad and his pals are really into their comics and a lot of people my age and younger.
have started going to Comic Con and stuff because they like some X-Men films or something. Find that weird.
^this rhythm of three answers just made me snigger on the train.
COMIC. BOOK FILMS
- the great injustice of the universe
- the hmrc website
- why birds suddenly appear every time you are near
but when they get so big the lobes flap out sideways and the skin looks like a calamari, that is too far.
The other thread reminded me what a tin ear I have for that film.
Also, drum and bass. Too fast.
drum and bass: hip-hop x 2. just ignore every second beat innit.
I'm slightly better at jungle but it's still too quick to really take in.
Some nice LTJ-style liquid d&b can be a joy, though.
People filming themselves playing games and putting it on youtube. Just...what.
I know some people that will quite happily spend an hour at a time watching videos of someone else playing Minecraft. Now, I don't personally like Minecraft, but they do. I don't understand why you'd want to watch someone else play it instead of playing it yourself.
I don't even like Minecraft but I am so jealous. Not much security in it though.
made more sense because then the people who took part could watch bits of the race back again, plus they found it amusing when I got unnecessarily angry and swore at the game/them/myself for being shit.
I then did it on metal gear solid ground zeroes cos I thought i'd see what it was like and it was a bit pointless, so I haven't bothered since. would love to play games and record it for a living though, but don't see how i'm going to earn enough to make a living off playing Mario kart badly and shouting OH FOR FUCKS SAKE when I get hit by a blue shell an inch from the finish line.
i can't imagine being that i) afraid of life, or ii) wedded to a strangely narrow take on international socialism which rests on westminster being willing to overhaul itself when it can barely manage to review constituency boundaries and failed to do anything about fptp.
"Where's the money gonna come from."
"We'll not have access to Great Ormond Street."
"If you go abroad, you'll be fucked at the first minor hiccup."
"My daughter will become a foreigner."
"The oil will all be gone in three years time."
"Alicsammon will be president 4eva."
I could go on. I could add links. But you get the point.
I got introduced to a chap the other night who was so similar to you i was convinced it was you, but it wasn't you, was it?
a) Because the United Kingdom and European Union aren't wholly analogous, and
b) A no vote to what? We don't actually know what this EU referendum will actually be on, and what it will actually have as it's question (that's assuming it ever actually happens).
will actually mean on 18th September though? It seems to me that there has been scant negotiation of the actual terms of separation thus far. I find it oddly premature timing for a presumably irrevocable(?) referendum.
To use a deal-lawyer analogy (indulge me - I hardly ever talk about that sort of thing, not being PO), it would be like my asking a client to sign a document to bind itself irrevocably into a deal the terms of which hadn't yet been negotiated and where the negotiations were my responsibility rather than my client's. Utterly barking.
If the "yes" vote wins, what happens if the terms of the separation deal turn out to be balls for Scotland? Tough shit?
I find it deeply worrying
will actually mean on 18th September though?
Seeing as no-one came forward when the offer of a second question was available, you might have thought it meant no change to the status quo. Except, the No side seem to be at pains to move away from that position. Depending on who you listen to (be it, Better Together, Vote No Borders, United with Labour, Cons, Lab, LD, UKIP...) a no vote will mean fewer powers/devo nano/devo min/devo max/loads more powers... remain in the EU/renegotiate with the EU/pull out of the EU.
The "safety" of a no vote is one of the biggest fallacies of the whole campaign.
There are many strands to the Yes side, but none are under the illusion that Yes = milk d honey overnight.
Sorry, but I can't indulge your deal-lawyer analogy. This is politics, not business. But, for what it's worth (which is questionable), there's the Edinburgh Agreement.
People say "I need to see the figures", "I need more information", "The debate so far doesn't tell us anything". It's all nonsense. There's more information two clicks away than most people know what to do with. And the mythical A4 sheet of impartial info will never exist.
So, as ever with politics, you have to weigh up what you've got, what you could have, and how likely it is that you'll end up with it.
Sure, the Yes side could be accused of being a little optimistic by leaning towards slightly more favourable projections. I accept that, and I factor it in to my thinking.
But with the amount of times that the No side has been proven to be logically wrong and to have knowingly and brazenly lied about so many of their assertions, the no vote remains a Thing I Don't Get.
They're gonna kick you out
All you're voting for is whether or not salmond has a mandate to go and negotiate with cameron on 19th september (it will actually not be until the following week as the resulkts won't come out until teh weekend.)
A yes result does not mean we wake up on 19th sept to an independent scotland. And salmond and cameron might never reach an agreement on terms, although with the democratic mandate to negotiat secession, there is arguably an obligation to reach a settlementy.
i think it's exciting.
I wasn't personally offended :)
Note to self: must try harder. ;-)
Good work wza, I enjoyed it.
I get that you have a strong point of view on a yes/no referendum. But utterly failing to comprehend the opposite side and belittling them is a lot of things, none of them good and definitely don't include "convincing anyone that for or you to think this so strongly must mean your side is 100% correct"
Oh, the irony.
Every single No argument and scare story has been demolished as outright lying, hollow threats, or pure illogical. If you're bothered about proving otherwise (rather than commenting on whether posts are beneath me) the floor is yours.
How about starting by explaining why the No side pumps out stories like the ones I posted at 10:10. Or maybe you could explain the gaping flaws in my 13:50 summary?
With 100 days to go - what better time to start a thread with the positive case for the Union?
Lee Mack's appeal
Comic Book Movies, agreed
People who hate immigration/immigrants
People who bring their babies into work, apparantly
It just seems like hackneyed jokes dragged from the 70's with no real insight or humor, just a pithy pun and nudge wink to the camera.
I find his show excruciating and his every man 'hey, i'm just a normal guy' shtick completely fake and bland. He also seems like a blank avatar you might get at the start of an rpg game or something in the same vein as most politicians these days. I suppose his white breadness might be a clue to his popularity but I just don't get it and I don't want to so bleehhhhhh.
I really enjoyed it, it was all super daft and very funny. As my sister represented at the time we met him afterwards for a beer and he was a genuinely lovely chap who came across just as daft and funny off stage.
and Not Going Out, it's simple fun.
its brainless and some of the jokes are terrible, but there's something about it. I like how Lee Mack seems like he's have a proper good time though
but Not Going Out is really dreadful and so pained. Can predict all the punchlines 10 seconds before they happen, and you can tell that he writes those first and works backwards. Full of such weird and unnatural dialogue as a result. Can't get on board with it.
I want to, I really do...but I don't.
also, Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's awkward, not funny.
It's a LOUD NOISE and a BAD SMELL that comes out of your BUM!
What more do you want?! COME ON!
point proved, I guess.
We must be soulmates.
it wasn't me but i'm now the prime suspect. this is bullshit. i'm being set up
airports, stadiums, countries etc that you have been to.
You never know when you might need to cash in a few to like a mainstream film or a Coldplay song or something.
on an iPad.
I reckon the fall of the Roman Empire was like this
...or that he was watching it on an ipad?
so all three
a video on my mate's phone because "We don't have an entertainment license."
The start can be exciting, cause they might crash, the rest is just utter tedium.
then switch the channel.
through the chicane, amazing…”
despite what sky/bbc might want you to think. you do get the odd race where there are lots of close battles, few crashes, maybe a random midfield driver miles further forward than he should be. throw in a bit of rain, that usually makes things fun too.
off the top of my head though, this year Bahrain was good, rest I can't even remember well enough to say if they were boring or not, so they were probably boring. Monaco was ok I guess.
what with the increased rental prices in city centres and the huge rise in online fantasy gaming. Also paint costs £2.40 a pot now. WHAT??? WHAT THE FUCK????
Although tbf you can prise my Sunset Yellow from my cold, dead hands.
the people who work there look like they are having the time of their fucking lives. I bet they can't believe they have a job doing their hobby every day, they even seem to delight in showing noobs how to play games. Compare that to a lot of the nobs who work in guitar shops.
at the front. Bumped into him accidentally
I'd just prefer it if they didn't.
For example, at Le Tournoi.
just using an iPad as a camera full stop, but then I kind of do get it if you don't have anything else instead. but I walked past a group of tourists today and five of them were using iPads as cameras and they just looked ridiculous.
like he filmed us walking out of the hall on his ipad. I think he deleted it afterwards cause it was such bad quality (duh).
They can just fuck right off really.
it makes me unreasonably angry.
Something so insanely relaxing about it, not sure what.
where the drinks are served in jam jars
WTF are you trying to prove!
ALSO...people calling their alcohol Moonshine.
Doesn't Evil Eye in York do that?
i bet harrogate does it too
Big fire-y plans
* it's not saving, in fact it's the opposite, as the money is just sitting in the jar not earning any interest and depleting in value.
if they leave it in the jar forever then yeah
if they count it all up every so often and take it down the bank then put it in savings/spend it on games, fair enough.
both methods are a pointless waste of time and effort. even more so when the schmuck takes their change to one of those change machines that takes a cut. utterly pointless false economy.
especially when NatWest (or at least my local one anyway) has a machine that you just pour your coins into and it counts them and puts the money in your account. don't even need to count them out and put them in bags anymore.
not sure what else you're supposed to do with a load of 1ps or 2ps - not going to spend them in a shop or spend five minutes shoving them in a vending machine, and not going to carry them around to never use them.
if you wouldn't have otherwise saved the money. The issue of interest is secondary.
Carrying loads of shrapnel around is rubbish. Having a few tens of pounds pop up every now and then that you hadn't factored into your budgeting is nice. It's a very simple concept.
People whose idea of a fun night out, particularly on a weekend, is lazing about indoors and channel-hopping.
Marijuana. It's not a fun drug in my opinion, just makes you relaxed and sleepy, which I think is boring.
People who don't drink.
Why everyone at secondary school is such a prat.
People who don't like Radiohead.
accepted the request, now that "people you might know" is just people I went to school with. all appear to still be idiots, just half of them have beards now.
The above post has made it 99% likely
When did I arrive?
I think you need to be out earlier than that for it to count as staying on rather than going out.
Verdict: oh, cuntby
I mean when the objective between a group of pals is to have "fun" on a... "night".
I can understand if people are broke but some people do seem to relish every opportunity that someone has a "free house", when usually it involves everyone slowly slurping rank Carlsberg, while watching Katy Perry et al on MTV et al. I'd rather be having an ale bender at the pub but to each his own.
Oh and the Radiohead was a joke, it's difficult to detect tonality on here. Maybe I should've put a :) or something afterwatds.
I remember that.
without also being a fan of its source material.
I hated the script, and I thought the concept was tosh, but I pressed on regardless and made the film
"Now everyone seems to know the various ins and outs of X-Men and Iron Man".
That didn't just come from watching a couple of superhero popcorn flicks.
There's a buy-in factor going on.
People liked the films, wanted to find out more and got the comics. Don't see what your problem with this. Happens with loads of things.
films being an entry point to comics. It's an impressive piece of mass marketing.
I hate you.
and then the day after a heavy night they complain about being sick. When you say it's a hangover they say:"No, I don't suffer from hangovers"
as though the boxers fight every weekend or something like football
All over the place in Leicester. I observed one whilst on a break and he seemed to visit a lot of houses.
Strange place, Leicester.
Well why don't you go upside down in the plane? I know we are attached to the earth with gravity, but come on. Someone explain this plane shit to me please.
it would be 100+ reply-er.
Well done DiS
Most of these are basically 'I don't get why other people have a different personality to me', bit arrogant. Except sports, sports have no merit.
Mostly those drawings of mustaches on clothes or cups or some shit. I feel like I'm missing a massive inside joke, but I don't think the joke is any deeper than "haha... mustache...."
but I'm a bit busy right now so, y'know... must dash.
even just being around those people makes me do overtime on worrying about things that might happen and doing things to mitigate risks.
^ Why people like cake so much. I don't get cake, it's crumbly as fuck, it gets your fingers messy and it doesn't taste all that good.
try using a cake fork and ice cream
I thought it was weird enough for kids to be into, but now that generation are adults and still dig it.
This utterly confuses me.
You have to pick either tea or coffee. It's one of the rules of being a grown up.
And someone else (thewza) goes 'if you want to be HEALTHY then MCDONALDS probably isn't the best place to come!!' like they think healthy and unhealthy are binary options
Yeah that diet coke/fast food cliched observation is annoying, people say it like they've just thought of it and think its a humorous thing to say. If someone makes one change of switching to diet drinks it probably does have massive health benefits even if it is just a move to being less unhealthy, so it is a pointless thing to say
Whether I'm having a maccy d's meal or sutin else. And, yeah, the only people I can recall mentioning diet drinks being pointless if you're having a burger are shit comedians rather than it being A Thing that people actually moan about.
It is definitely bad comedian fodder, but I've heard real people say it to, probably the types who enjoy those bad comedians
Developing a thing for needling someone on DiS. Quite odd, and probably best to nip it in the bud, bud.
I'll say someone else next time
Parks & Recreation and Louie are often great. The others all seem to be full of these jazz-hand-waving joke machines with impeccable Californian dentistry. I don’t think I’d ever tire of punching Andy Samberg in the face. I could get on board with Community, which is clearly very funny and intelligent, if everyone in it didn’t move/talk like toddlers on a sugar high all the time. And I don’t know how anyone can watch ‘Girls’.
Arrested Development is obviously one of the greatest sitcoms of all time but i can't shake the feeling that most US sitcoms of the last few years are trying too hard to be like it and failing.
Sainsbury = Sainsburys
Tesco = Tescos
Marks & Spencer = Marks & Spencers
Asda ≠ Asdas
people who refer to Matalan as 'Matterland'. I've never even been to Matalan, and I've heard three people make this error.
although it's fair to say this hasn't been a hot issue for about 20 years.
I would be amazed if Peter Kay hasn't mentioned this at some point.
The real question: is it pie or cheese?
seems pretty fucking obvious
deriving pride from the actions of others. Weird.
actually I'm guilty of this come to think of it. Remembering a surge of pride when that guy attached a happy meal to a remote control helicopter to taunt David Blaine. I was proud to be British that day.
The smell, the hairs, the cost just can't see the benefits. I think a lot of people own them for selfish/ needy reasons.
Skiing. Spending your precious few weeks of free time a year up some cold mountain, skiing to the bottom then doing it again and again and again. Plus the early mornings, the cost and the chance of injury. Many people go skiing not for enjoyment but asca status symbol I think
Fizzy drinks. Sugary mouthwash that rots your teeth... Great!
Costa/ Starbucks etc. A status symbol, a bit like skiing.
They're all 'the Man' aren't they, they're just sort of omnipresent so they're the easiest places to get a cup of coffee (especially if you're in a strange town and you just want something in the easiest possible way). I think independent coffee shops are nicer but sometimes I wonder if the indie points add to that, which is more of a status thing. In short I need coffee to live and don't mind how it gets to me.
I like mountains, and snow, and that cosy feeling after being in snow, and careening down a hill, so can totally see the appeal if skiing. Only did it once and it was really cheap, stayed in a youth hostel, took a train up a mountain and hired some skis for 20 euro or something (no questions asked I was at least expecting a basic 'can you ski?' Check), had the rare this feels brand new feeling.
both are fun
Also dogs = the best
a buffalo stance
Unless they clicked the button by mistake
It's like they're just fucking idiots or something.
Have I missed something?
Some look amazing, others terrible.
There's no way I'd commit to having a whole arm inked for the rest of my life.
is this true????
thought of a good one today:
using a hands free thing with your phone whilst holding your phone in front of your face... don't get that at all
Not for me, Clive