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Suarez to (maybe) miss World Cup!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27514880
England win penalty shoot-out and win something!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27512259
England's Worst XI shown on TV!
Actual football matches to resume in two days!
AOB?
watching the final in la tasca
which will be weird but im having dinner bought me and i have a birthday bottle of cava to claim so fuck it
Apparently Jose Mourinho and the Irish fella in One Direction are text mates
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/21/patrick-bamford-derby-county-qpr-chelsea
Yes read that on the train this morning.
The article left me empty, in a state of utter despair and a feeling of acute nausea because it came to me in a blinding flash that this twat WILL score on Saturday. It is written.
Seems like a decent lad tbh.
He's scoring lots of goals too, admittedly at a lower level, but he clearly knows how to finish. Maybe, what with Chelsea's striker issues, we could see him break into the first tea- hahahahahahaha just kidding. He'll never play for us :(
Aside from the weird One Direction revelation (bit creepy Jose)
... How the fuck did he manage to wrangle an unconditional offer from Harvard on those GCSE / A Level result!? I feel royally shafted now.
I've completely lost my football libido
I usually love the play-off final, even more than the CL final, but this year....nothing.
Not feeling anything for the world cup yet either
http://www.overtimeonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/big-sam-sad.jpg
My droop is almost certainly related
All is beige.
That England's Worst XI programme
was definitely some < 50p CEX level DVD shit.
Still liked it though.
didn't see it, who made the grade?
Zat Knight?
Michael Ricketts?
Geoff Thomas?
Vinnie Jones
it was Scott Carson
Curle
Walker
Upson
Ball
Downing
Bentley
Jones (!!!)
Palmer
Fashanu
Nugent
Des Walker?
Wasn't he pretty good before losing Forest the cup final?
That's just silly.
the other candidates for midfield were Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes
and every talking head seemed to be your man from Reverend and the Makers
carlton palmer?
fuck that shit. actually a good player, if he played for a london club the press would have spaffed furiously at his performances.
Nope, completely justified. Palmer along with Keith Curle were
appalling in an England shirt. Apologies but I'm particularly bitter about the period those two were being selected having forked out so much money at the time to watch England. Please see Euro '92.
Suarez had op on his knee and might be out of the world cup
Was hoping he'd be the one to knock england out
Me too, but don't worry, there's still this guy
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4099514-3x2-940x627.jpg
And him
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/joel-campbell-414267.jpg
Anyone hear about PSG abusing disabled Chelsea fans?
Crikey
Chelsea fans so probably deserved it
Spurs getting a beating off the police at seville was funnier and city fans getting battoned on the streets of madrid was even funnier,
You are a very bad man
disabled people deserving abuse
jeez... what kind of site have i signed up for ?
You may well ask, Dean.
You may well ask.
Chelsea fans are chelsea fans
just see them as that.
HE'
does that mean England are gonna win the world cup in 6 or 7 years?
probably not does it? I've only just seen we won it back in 2010 as well. here's the team (and BBCs descriptions of them) that still havent won the world cup:
Jack Butland (Birmingham City) Position: Goalkeeper Age: 17 Caps: 9. Voted Birmingham's young player of the season for 2009/10.
Bruno Pilatos (Middlesbrough) Defender Age: 17 Caps: 20. Born in Angola. Named substitute for first time for Boro's game against Swansea on 23 January.
Luke Garbutt (Everton) Defender Age: 17 Caps: 24. Joined Everton from Leeds United in the summer of 2009 for reported £200,000.
Nathaniel Chalobah (Chelsea) Defender Age: 15 Caps: 17. Singled out for praise by FA Director of Football Development Sir Trevor Brooking. Will only turn 16 in December.
Andre Wisdom (Liverpool) Defender Age: 17 Caps: 17. Powerful, pacey centre-back who helped Liverpool reach the FA Youth Cup final last season.
Conor Coady (Liverpool) Midfielder Age: 17 Caps: 17. Captain for both his country and club (under 18 side). Tough-tackling midfielder in mould of club-mate Steven Gerrard.
William Keane (Manchester United) Midfielder Age: 17 Caps: 15. Creative midfielder who was part of United's Milk Cup-winning squad in summer 2009. Twin brother Michael is also on United's books.
Joshua McEachran (Chelsea) Midfielder Age: 17 Caps: 12. Stand out player of Chelsea's 2010 FA Youth Cup victory. Has travelled with the Blues first team this season.
Ross Barkley (Everton) Midfielder Age: 16 Caps: 7. Goal-scoring midfielder looking to follow in the footsteps of Jack Rodwell at Goodison. Has also played up front for Everton's youth side.
Benik Afobe (Arsenal) Forward Age: 17 Caps: 23. Made his debut for Arsenal reserves as a 16-year-old. Scored 11 goals in 13 appearances for the Gunners under 18s.
Connor Wickham (Ipswich) Forward Age: 17 Caps: 10. Star striker, often compared to Wayne Rooney, who is gaining rave reviews and much attention from Premier League scouts for his displays for Ipswich, for whom he has scored six goals in 10 starts this season.
Samuel Johnstone (Manchester United) Goalkeeper Age: 17 Caps: 14. Preston-born keeper who is tall, athletic and very agile. Regularly involved with England since his U16s debut, against Scotland, in November 2008.
Ben Gibson (Middlesbrough) Defender Age: 17 Caps: 5. Left-sided defender who has overcome growth-related injury problems this season to establish himself in the Boro academy side.
Tom Thorpe (Manchester United) Defender Age: 17 Caps: 7. Tall, athletic centre-back who has also played right-back. Composed on the ball and comfortable coming forward.
George Thorne (West Brom) Midfielder Age: 17 Caps: 13. Central midfielder who became Albion's youngest league debutant in 49 years when making his debut from the bench in the Baggies' 4-0 win over Sheffield Wednesday on 28 November.
Luke Williams (Middlesbrough) Midfielder Age: 16 Caps: 5. Attacking midfielder of forward. Became the youngest player to represent Boro since Tom Murray in 1905 via a substitute appearance against Barnsley on 28 November.
Robert Hall (West Ham) Forward Age: 16 Caps: 16. Lightning-quick left-footed winger or forward who has scored six goals in 15 starts for West Ham's academy side this season.
Saido Berahino (West Brom) Forward Age: 16 Caps: 12. Born and brought up in war-torn Burundi, but fled the country to join his mother, who was seeking asylum in England, five years ago. The prolific goalscorer, who broke into the Baggies reserve side last season, only spoke French when he first arrived in this country.
in fairness, those players are now only 19-21
and Butland, Berahino, Wickham and Barkley have all got to around the england setup, and a couple of others look pretty decent/are under 21 regulars
I can confidently say we wont win the World Cup in 2020 or 2021
Anything could happen to the dates of the Qatar world cup.
Anything.
Let's move them back in time and retrospectively award ourselves the trophy
Good point.
I'm sure, morally, we've deserved one or two. Over to ohgood for the data.
Johnstone, Chalabolah and Wisdom could still easily make the grade
Will Keane would've but for losing 18 months to injury. dunno what happened with McEachran. Garbutt and Wickham will probably be solid mid-table PL players.
by all accounts 2014's team is playing much better than the 2010 team did as well.
plus Patrick Roberts is the next big thing so..
Will Keane?
He's looked pretty dreadful for us. That said, we do tend to have this effect on many players so he could be good. But apart from his first 60 minutes he's been decidedly poor.
If Suarez is out of the World Cup, Uruguay's attack will be a bit toothless
right back to work for me.
:D Jokes so bad people they make people do some work
Your company should be paying me really.
Do you work for Paddy Power?
Yes
that post upthread about england's youths
reminds me of the best article ever to grace the bbc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/2641675.stm
Dunn!
that's not far off the actual team though, is it?
and that team could and probably should have won something. who remembers when all we had was a "left sided" problem?
:D
David Dunn :D
fuck :D
Shearer does have very sensible hands tbf
Milner as a striker?
Neil Mellor on the bench!
And to keep them alert, the likes of Liverpool's Neil Mellor, Aston Villa's Darius Vassell, Leeds' James Milner and West Ham's Jermaine Defoe will all be in the prime of their careers.
STRIKERS!
Nicky "Swindon Town" Summerbee
So is this like Blatter's version of A Burns for All Seasons?
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/22/fifa-film-tim-roth-sepp-blatter
Is Senor Spielbergo directing?
AHAHAHAHAHA.
what the fuck? Blatter has totally lost it.
This is fantastic
Man getting hit by football in the groin doesn't stand a chance.
Don't cry for me
I'm already dead
FOOTBALL IN THE GROIN!!!
Schindler es muy bueno... Senor Blatter es el diablo
Neil Lennon Sacked
Couldnt handle Rangers getting closer to Prem League apparently
one for ady bongo in The Guardians world cup countdown series:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/may/22/25-stunning-world-cup-moments-
Germany v Holland.
Very poor effort
Can't even spell the name of the Dutch goalie.
Neil Lennon has resigned
Moyes to Celtic, Lennon to Norwich.
Trust me he was sacked
Don't see Moyes taking the wage drop
(obviously he's not getting any wages at the moment, but could earn far far more if he hangs about for a mid-level Premier League job).
Possibly Lambert if he doesn't last the summer at Villa. Larsson has been mentioned as well, but no idea if there's any truth in that at all.
Don't dislike Lennon at all, think he's done a good job and had some great results (the 125th anniversary game against Barca will live long in the memory), but not especially gutted to see him go. Don't think he really wanted to be here a fair bit this season.
Hope he does well at Norwich if he does go there, think he's a better manager than lots of people give him credit for.
*Lambert for the Celtic job
Tend to agree with you in that i think he's better than a lot of people give him credit for.
Will be really interesting to see how he does down south and i wish him all the best. Met him a few times and always thought he was a thoroughly decent guy, had a lock in once with him in jintys along with hartson and a few others, some very colourful language/songs flying about that night! :)
don't want moyes
or indeed lambert for that matter, would much prefer malky mackay
Really?!
Moyes and Lambert are far better managers than Mackay
yeah that's an absolute madness fitz
i'd rather have someone like MacKay who might come in
for 3-5 years, than the likes of Moyes or Lambert (assuming he gets sacked) who'd come in for a season until a premier league team comes knocking
why?
You've got at least another couple years of unchallenged titles, I don't think it really matters who you get, but Moyes and Lambert are far better. Anyway, could be Larsson
a couple of years?!?!?!
fucking hell it could be a decade before celtic are seriously challenged!
I was trying to magnanamous
you prick ;)
Significantly more than a decade
if your management accounts are anything to go by.
:D
this was low, but i enjoyed it, sorry LP
It's in nobody's interests
(Apart from certain vultures) for them to go into administration/ liquidation again. Fans need to drop this fairytale idea about security and buy some fucking season books FFS.
Interesting legal question though as to whether this would be sevco's first insolvency, or whether the fact that the business was passed over means that this is actually a subsequent insolvency event. Ok, so it's not that interesting but it would have a bearing on points deductions and also the 'history' question. Hmm.
i didn't think there was any real debate about the insolvency
i thought when the CVA was refused they went into administration and then the new club was formed?*
*seriously not looking to rehash well-trodden ground here btw but i didn't think that was contested by any reasonable-minded person
:(
:)
because i think having that stability
always helps and also having someone who the board/fans think have a chance of sticking around means they're more likely to actually give him some money to try and push on with the CL.
I reckon that's been the thing that's pushed Lennon to go, he met with the board a few weeks ago about possible signing targets for this summer and then two weeks later resigns, he's clearly been told he's getting a pittance/fuck all when we're in pretty good financial health
also i'd *much* rather any of those three before henrik
but Celtic are about as stable as they come in world football
Guaranteed titles and Champions League group stages for years to come, in too much of a shitehouse league to attract any really big players, can't go up or down. Essentially anyone could do the job, as Lennon has pretty keenly proved
"Guaranteed....Champions League group stages"
Dont think it is so Guaranteed, they just got through by the skin of their teeth last year
they still did and should never have been in trouble in that game though
much as it pains me to agree with farcy
he's right, we're not guaranteed the group stages in any year, and because of the co-efficient pish it's got the potential to get harder and harder
Yeah, this.
If Lennon thought he could have a half-decent crack at Europe each year I don't think he would be leaving. As it is, he's forced by the club into selling any and all of the players he would like to keep, without the transfer fees being reimbursed. It's a near-impossible way to build a squad.
If the board gave him, say, £25m for summer transfers it's a safe bet that he'd stick around. Unfortunately the board are eager to push Forster, Van Dijk and any other saleable asset out the door as fast as possible (to join Hooper, Wanyama, Ledley, Samaras and other guys Lennon would've liked to keep), but they're only willing to replace them with a bunch of uproven duds at £1-3m.
Also, there's no way Moyes would take the Celtic job!
Think Moyes might fancy it actually.
He'll want to stay out of the headlines for a while and quietly rebuild his reputation somewhere safe. He's unlikely to get a gig with anyone in the Premier League above West Brom currently, but once he's reminded people he's a safe pair of hands he'll be back with a midtable club in 3-4 years' time.
also we all know scottish football is pish
but "I don't think it really matters who you get" is a bit of a stretch, look at Mowbray
that was when Rangers were relevant
would be surprised if moyes took it right now
why? fella needs to get that trophy monkey off his back
imagine if they didn't win the SPL next year though!
What about McNamara for the Celtic job?!
given the nose-dive Dundeed Utd have taken in the second half
of the season, i'd seriously hope not, it's looking more and more like Henrik is a done-deal
Oh Crap
I still think he ends up at Leceister half way through the season
and we get MacKay but who knows now
Scholesy with some truthbombs;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27517443
blimey
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/may/21/klas-ingesson-manager-cancer?CMP=fb_gu
this is like when Question Time is in Edinburgh
and they spend some of the programme talking about Scottish issues. It's fine but I am bored.
relax.
here's Louis van Gaal storming out of Dutch Match of the Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sviu9l3bew
or watch all of Eusabio touches from the 67 European cup final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFAuIeRm7UM
(gets clattered by Nobby Stiles so many times)
or stephen taylor being an absolute nob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh5htrzAOWM&feature=youtu.be
I appreciate all of this, meths
what annoys me about that clip is that he seems to think it was down to him
that Kebab curled an absolute peach into the top corner
can you get sent off for ungentlemanly conduct?
he should have been. what a dick.
It's a promo clip for the TV show
using Van Gaal's reputation for having a bit of a temper when dealing with the press.
Bacary :(
don't begrudge him the move, £120k p/w for 3 years is loads of money for a 32 year old. Wish he'd stayed on as back-up cb though. Wouldn't be surprised if that's what city want him for, he's surprisingly brilliant there and wins basically every aerial duel that's ever existed.
In a way glad that we're getting a new rb though, Aurier seems pretty class and it'll be interesting to have someone who can act as a bit of a wing back.
ffs
Would pick Zabaletta over Sagna
But would pick Sagna over Clichy
Milner to Arsenal?
sagna over kompany
Thought he'd just turned 31?
Does seem like a hell of a lot of money to me, and for a player who i'll gladly say now i don't rate at all.
He's probably worth £5m though, which is what the extra would be between the £90k a week deal Arsenal offered him and the £120k a week one the broadsheets are saying he's signing with us.
Kinda makes sense if you consider his versitility, as you say. Can play backup to Zabaleta, could replace Clichy or Kolarov, fill in alongside Kompany if needed, or let either Kolarov or Zabaleta play in midfield.
David Moyes :(
Fighting in a bar
He's lost it, great scenes.
Nah it was just his interview for the Celtic job.
:)
I hope he tried to make it hard for the other bloke.
Shithouse Moyes.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ukV69vAqXAk/UmusB0PKEKI/AAAAAAAAojE/yDRqgLLOzy4/s1600/David+MOYES.png
a wine bar?
You've changed.
this is good
if someone made me buy a fake record sleeve featuring a footballer i've only seen on youtube then i'd get a eusebio one
this is in the wrong place
give meths his dues
Wouldn't it be a shame
if Suarez wasn't fit to put in a blinding World Cup performance this year? If he could only muster up some half-strength attempts that didn't catch the eye of any Spanish scouts and come back to Melwood silently and without fanfare.
If he's out, it genuinely changes my opinion on how far England can go (ie. they can get out the group).
Uruguay are better than us and Italy with or without Suarez
reckon we could do Italy though, then probs fuck up against Costa Rica, would be proper England
can someone tell me whether to back atletico or real please
finding it an impossible decision
Draw
a mention for Helena Costa
becoming the first ever female manager of a professional european side (Clermont), and at 36 too. pretty impressive. All the best to her and hopefully there aren't any french equivalents to Grey and Keys knocking about.
credit to Chelsea for giving her the nod as physio in the first place.
sexist? racist? or both?
Well Neil Lennon won't be getting the Norwich job as speculated upthread
as they've given it to the supply teacher instead. Bit of a risk I'd have thought. Maybe no one else wanted the job.
wouldn't blame them tbh
Relegated, unceremoniously fucked off our last two managers. At least Adams cares about us and he had the team motivated and playing better football
good riddance
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27529117
honestly hated bellers, even when he signed for city
until a few games in and then i absolutely loved him. maybe i am a one of the fickle thousands. maybe his swashbuckling style can win round fans of any teams he represents. one thing you cannot question is his commitment.
enjoy the golf, craigo.
yesterday kroos had singned for united
now he's not coming. so tired of this off season bullshit