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Turns out you don't, mate
"If you have Celiac, this obviously doesn't apply to you."
from here originally:
"Currently, Biesiekierski is focused on maintaining an open mind and refining her experimental methods to determine whether or not gluten sensitivity truly exists.
"We need to make sure that this research is as well controlled as possible and is reproducible," Biesiekierski told RCS, subsequently adding the quintessential adage of proper science.
"Much, much more research is needed."
"Instead, as RCS reported last week, FODMAPS are a far more likely cause of the gastrointestinal problems attributed to gluten intolerance. Jessica Biesiekierski, a gastroenterologist at Monash University and lead author of the study alongside Gibson, noted that when participants consumed the baseline low-FODMAP diet, almost all reported that their symptoms improved!
"Reduction of FODMAPs in their diets uniformly reduced gastrointestinal symptoms and fatigue in the run-in period, after which they were minimally symptomatic."
Coincidentally, some of the largest dietary sources of FODMAPs -- specifically bread products -- are removed when adopting a gluten-free diet, which could explain why the millions of people worldwide who swear by gluten-free diets feel better after going gluten-free."
Was hoping this might out loads of trendy intolerance bellends
You actually look like a reasonable poster next to me.
Like on Kid A
My little niece has coeliac and it's going to be really bad for her when this bubble bursts and all the gluten-free stuff she's just got used to will suddenly disappear again.
people come in all fussy about eating gluten and when we tell them we're out of gluten free they're like OH ok i'll just have white bread. haha. happens like four times a week.
and the gluten free bread we have is terrible and usually just crumbs.
People not taking it seriously really lessens confidence in stuff at restaurants etc actually being gluten free.
just a guess too. but when we're out of gluten free stuff its probably not gone to people who need it it's gone to someone cause of the fad. and we only get a small amount of gluten free in. the amount of people who come into my work claiming to not be able to eat certain things is ridiculous none of the other chefs have ever seen anything like it.
sainsburys do a brown one thats alright toasted
asdas white bread is good if you want fake processed white bread, as long as it hasn't been squeezed within an inch of it's life whilst on the shelf
source: me and my coeliac mates
ALL SUPPOSED GLUTEN INTOLERANT PEOPLE ARE LIARS stuff this week. The language I've found really quite strange and unhelpful.
Doctors massively use it as a crutch when they just haven't got a clue what's wrong with a person. My sister has ulcerative colitis and they took about 5 years to diagnose it properly, in that time she was told to cut out all gluten and then had that advice reversed about three times. Has happened to a couple of colleagues as well, just seems like they use it as a bit of a speculative crutch sometimes.
D'you know what? Some chronic illnesses (especially those involving the gut/bowel etc.) are really difficult to diagnose. All doctors can do is go on evidence available to them, suggest changes in lifestyle, and remove possible illnesses/diseases based upon the impact of the changes the patient makes. This cycle can repeat itself endlessly. And you know what? Some of it is speculative. But doctors sometimes have very little to go on in this area.
I'm sure your sister had a pretty rotten time before she found out what was wrong with her. It's horrible. But to say doctors `massively` use it as a spectulative `crutch` sounds to me you're extrapolating her experience onto something you have no real idea about.
doctors will remove gluten abstainance from diagnoses which don't need it, and hopefully everyone will benefit. If it's been shown to be a red herring in most cases, hopefully this evidence will trickle down and people like your sister will get diagnosed quicker.
My gf has ulcerative colitis, and an admitting doctor's unwillingness to accept that rare or unlikely complications DO HAPPEN SOME OF THE TIME nearly killed her.
He tried to send her home. She was in emergency surgery 12 hours later. Great work, doc.
Like GOML says though, incredibly difficult to nail down. I've got a huge amount of sympathy for them, must be awful to just not have any real, concrete way to be able to treat somebody.
Even now, my sister has just been put on some new drug they think might be good for it but runs the risk of liver failure and all sorts of other stuff, this is after being on and off steroids since she was 14 or so. It's so easy to forget how little we actually know sometimes.
And not just that - human error plays a part. Unfortunately for some doctors, the consequences of a slight error (even an error made with reference to the best possible evidence) can have devastating consequences. I can barely choose a pair of slacks in the morning without having a breakdown about the implications of my decision; fuck being a doctor!
Means that I've been fully briefed in what to shout at doctors if it happens again. I'll be that angry dickhead telling a doctor how to do his job. Everybody loves that guy.
Seriously - well worth asking about. Any reasonable doctor, if you tell them about a past historical complication, should take it very seriously but always good to have it documented.
people with broken arms. no such thing you cunts.
Seems interchangeable with 'I don't like it' or 'It doesn't make me feel great' (hello, it's dairy). Milk's been a diet staple since time immemorial.
Milk is not part of a staple diet in the majority of the world's population.
I haven't been diagnosed but my bowls are really fucked up.
However it's a "bin" diagnoses, like ME/CFS.
It's like "ok, your stomach and bowels hurts a lot with no particular pattern and we've done all the tests we can and can't explain it so you've got IBS".
I have diarrhea about 60% of the time.
I go through phases where mine is too.
Did anyone see that tv programme last night about ecoli and other germs on shopping trolley handles? There's a bug they found on trolley handles that can give you a Urinary Tract Infection
the same things are probably on everything we ever touch
Further weakening your own and probably your offspring's immune systems for generations to come
it can go undetected and can make you infertile
I might be thinking of something else.
You can't catch chlamydia from a supermarket trolley
dont let my mrs hear you saying that
you come into contact with something which other humans have been touching?
I mean where do you logically take the points the show was making to? The door handle you pushed to get into work this morning probably had a spot of scurvy on it.
The paranoia these sorts of programmes generates is a bit worrying.
it was shit
like i'll get on the tube then eat a sandwich and be like 'ah should have washed my hands i guess'
also if it helps, i'm sick A LOT
you can take one layer off every time you touch something someone else has touched. Just limit your touchings to the number of gloves you're wearing and you'll be disease free in no time
without a small dispenser of sanitary hand gel. He might not come down with stuff often, but when he does it's totally debilitating. Whereas I smoke, drink, eat spicy food to excess and am quite happy to lick a urinal but bob through life relatively unfazed by my slight, permanent illness. Not sure what's better really.
for a dare like. I dont remember it, but knowing me back then it sounds totally plausible
and if I didnt it would sometimes be black.
It was just my terrible diet though
i'm a gluten for punishment
but I know someone who has. It makes me wonder if I could? It makes me wonder if I'll ever have to go gluten free? and I'm glad I haven't yet, because I'm sure it isn't good.
you have to be consuming gluten and have both a blood test and a colon/endoscopy to be given a diagnosis
and have an intimate knowledge about what goes into it. Seems like The Thing for middle class whites of late.
Just give me a service station pastie and I'll worry about the fallout later.
really wish all the people who pretend to have coeliac disease were given coeliac just to spite them
it's the only way
we shouldn't be shamed for being born this way. where's lady gaga when you need her.
in some small way assuages the guilt of being born in a generally healthy first-world country