It was dead good. Did you ever see the unaired pilot?
I liked Oz in it. He was cool.
oz was good, anya was the best
Had the BIGGEST crush on her when I was 10 or whatever which might've made it seem a bit better than it was?
But I clearly remember The Gentleman episode was the scariest thing ever, silent floating men in suits that cut out people's hearts as they slept.
(my second favourite piece is the on/off button.)
Find it very, very hard to watch any of it now, bar two or three Xander-heavy episodes
If you were an emerging pubescent when Buffy was first airing, Xander was great. Like a Chandler Bing who made references to things that were only slightly beyond your life experiences.
The Holy Trinity of Generation Y beta-maledom. They have a lot to answer for.
To not like xander would be to not like anything joss whedon has done, he is the quintessential whedon
donald sutherland AND rutger hauer
Even season 6 which was hit and miss in places and 7, which did seem a slog at times. Thank god Andrew was there to bring the bants.
Have recently been watching the whole thing again with my kids having being telling them for ages that Twilight is rubbish in comparison.
We've all been absolutely loving it. Near the end of season 7 now, sadly.
rewatched it all last year.
took me about three months. do not regret it one bit.
One of the greatest TV shows ever. Maybe it should have ended after five seasons with Buffy dying but there's still enough for me to love in the last two seasons (Once More With Feeling! Giles coming back at the end of season 6! Andrew in season 7! Caleb! etc)
1. The Body (season 5) - Joyce dies, one of the best episodes of any show ever
2. Hush (season 4) - the one with no dialogue for about half the episode
3. The Zeppo (season 3) - Xander saves the day on his own
4. Passion (season 2) - Angel kills Jenny Calendar
5. The Gift (season 5) - season finale, Glory defeated, Buffy dies (again)
6. Graduation Day (season 3) - season finale, Mayor becomes demon, school gets blown up
7. Once More, With Feeling (season 6) - the musical episode
8. Becoming (season 2) - season finale, Angel gets his soul back, Buffy still has to kill him to save the world
9. Intervention (season 5) - Spike gets a Buffybot, does maybe the first selfless thing he's ever done
10. Conversations with Dead People (season 7) - the characters talk to dead people
big the zeppo fan
I can only assume they're insane.
yeah ive read a few things saying it is one of the worst episodes. The whole of season 3 is perfect, probably the best season of any show ever
Season 4 was the first season which didn't improve upon what went before. Season 6 was probably the worst, allowing for the fact that Season 1 is obviously the least polished.
was which but the one where she takes on the "god" Glory was the best. The episode where her mother died was brilliantly written and acted.
i'd say 3>2>5>4>1>6>7
think 2 has some of the best episodes but still has that season 1 patchiness, would rate season 4 higher but adam is a bit rubbish.
anyone read the comics for season 8 and 9?
8 start really well, whedon and brian k vaughn as writers, but then gets ridiculous
i started on 8 but Dawn being giant was just too stupid
I enjoyed the bit about Andrew saying that Buffy dating the Immortal would be funny
for the reason that Buffy's mum was finally fucking out of the show.
Normal Again - Just love how it pokes fun at the concept of Buffy
Tabula Rasa - Memory wipe trope, but still. RANDY! JOAN!
Superstar - Jonathon becomes the hero
Pangs - The siege of Giles' house. YOU MADE A BEAR! "Can we come rocketing back to the part about me and my new syphilis?"
"Hey! Watch the heart!"
"Yeah, let's talk about it some more."
Also, I missed another great episode; Storyteller!
bought the box set on DVD (when DVDs were relatively new-ish) and I watched every episode in order. That was a brilliant few months.
i think she was going out with him, i lost interest
To call him wooden is an insult to trees
The only truly awful character in my opinion was Kennedy
how much willow had changed from season 6
what a brilliant spend of many hours. I bought my girlfriend the first 2 Buffy comics for Christmas. started reading the first one last week. It follows on from season 7 and starts off very quickly.
but as mentioned above they go off the rails somewhat. The most recent ones seem promising though. And Andrew is still around, which is always a plus.
I'm not sure where from.
are the Angel ones any good?
The Angel & Faith comic seems to have a much more positive reception though than the Buffy one.
is every bit as good, I think. It just kept getting better as it went along.
I last did a full, in-broadcast-order rewatch of both series about 3 years ago and it's about time I did it again.
Mainly because it was a children's programme.
Even when I was young I thought it was complete shit. I had a mate who had that High School jumper they wore. Fucking awful. Would come to the pub in it. Literally. WHAT. THE. FUCK.
Like Harry Potter, it's for CHILDREN.
And indie rock is for teenagers yet we are all here, so what
And weren't you championing lord of the rings recently
but let him do his thing
my post sounded needlessly shirty.
Was meant to be more BANTS.
But I will defend Lord of the Rings and say it's not really a children's thing. It's just a fucking ace story and book (and film) that happen to be set in a different land with magic.
It's more adult and grown up than most 18 Hollywood films.
Genuinely don't understand how anyone could read Lord Of The Rings for the first time, aged over 18, and not think it was portentous tripe.
It also adds to the seriousness of Sauron and the buying into Middle Earth. If it was just like "there's some pixie cunts and some dwarf cunts and some fucking mountains and some bellend eye who's scary" it wouldn't work as well.
Actually, that might work.
It's just Harry potter for games workshop types
I've rewatched it since and much like first time around I gave up a series and a half into the college years.
Dollhouse is great
bad, but in a very entertaining way > genuinely amazing > terrible in a not entertaining way once they knew they were getting cancelled
watching the whole thing is 100% justified by "there are three. flowers. in the vase."
of Whedon's hilarious attempts at being feminist.
the whole thing is deeply flawed but the highs totally justify watching it.
plus she is the worst sniff the fart actor in the world.
It has some amazing actors in it.
Sadly the concept requires someone with way more range than Dushku has. In the end it is just frustratingly like Whedon in a compromise.
Season 2 was brilliant - the fact they had to rush it made it that way I guess. Agreed on the actors; Enver Gjokaj who played Victor was incredible - his portrayal of Topher and Mr Dominic were excellent. Alan Tudyk stole the show though; despite only being in 4 episodes, he was utterly superb and plays the bad guy with such ease and style. He was proper like the Joker in Season 2; just a magnificent performance all round.
oh my god.
Can't believe that Wheldon to be honest.
they completely overhauled the whole thing a few epis in. If you're a general fan of Whedon I'd recommend sticking with it, there's some amazing stuff in there. If not, admittedly I might not bother.
I could really do with something to light(ish) to watch so I'll soldier through.
but I'd deffo recommend it.
Jenny Calendar, she really was the ultrababe in that show. IT teacher/witch, what more could you want?
And you never saw Angel Season 5's episode Smile Time, I urge you to correct this. :D
felt even more horrible having A Hole in the World follow straight after
Wasn't a huge fan or owt so no idea when it "lost it" or anything.
More a dip-in-and-out viewer but it was always solid entertainment.
- Never really liked it as much after they left school
- Funny Xander is up there with Funny Chandler in great TV characters. Unfunny Xander is down there with Unfunny Chandler
- Remember thinking Oz was cool and Faith was hot when I was a teenager. Rewatched some of it recently and was SHOCKED at how wrong I was.
because he's just a fairly reasonable human being, and not Xander.
Quirky scripts where teenages talk like aliens was totally in. Exhibit a.) Dawson's Creek
A much more realistic teenager than Xander, but awful all the same.
and then Angel loses his soul and turns bad and tries to open the gates of hell only to regain his soul (thanks to witchy Willow) as Buffy plants a sword through his naked torso and pushes him into the doorway to hell.
I was writing finals when that episode aired. I was inconsolable and spent the night on the phone to my friend, both of us crying.
they did a live commentary on the episode Band Candy, that was pretty much an inneundo-fest of brilliance.
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