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Howdya like them Greg Dyke plans hmm? Bit mental.
because Germany do it or something? (yeah that's right, I skim read some bits and bobs on facebook)
I guess I don't like it, because it might mean an even bigger gap between Bristol Rovers and actual football teams.
Fuck that B team shit. I don't want to have to support two teams.
I think they should shake up the lower leagues in a different way, not banning all EU players.
Championship: only South American players
Div 1: African
Div 2: Kiwis
I think you need to read up on your rules.
Not more than one from any country though.
Call it the EJL (English Jupiler League) and be done with it.
Is this about getting more English yoof more game time or something? Because I think screwing with the league to help your national side is morally dubious and completely deluded. Dyke should just accept his national side will be shit forever.
and they've always been of roughly the same ability with some fluctuations over the years, and stop obsessing over how to improve them.
Nah it'd be okay if it had better central defenders, and a striker to replace Rooney. Actually no Manchester Utd players. Or Lennon.
about their B team players, how they're coming on and shit. That will be another 25 posts a day guaranteed.
Should disband that instead.
Telly > Football > ?
I'm just no longer there
national team are always going to be a bit shit and just move on with our lives.
Rumours of Allardyce getting the elbow are getting stronger.
I don't really post in the usual football threads.
What the fuck do you think you're doing in here?
Look Food is on here now.
Can we have a subthread in here instead?
Also dreamt that there'll be a couple of 8-0s on the last fay of the season.
I wouldn't start some bollocks food thread and then refuse you entry
the only part i can fully recall is spending half an hour trying to remember Scott Loach's name. it was Scott Loach.
no idea why i'd pick him. weird.
that Hayley McQueen is my favourite Sky Sports News robo-babe.
giggsy seems to have quickly adapted to the moyes competition winner pose
and not Januzaj?
Perhaps the criteria were very specific, but it seems a little harsh on Adnan.
Not young player of the year, we haven't got an equivalent for young first-team player of the year really.
it turns into a 'what dream you had last night' thread
zxcvbnm will be here soon, you know
As a PL fan, do you support the B-Team plan? Yes/No
is enough to kill it tbh
fuck's sake (lol as if we'd have a B team anyway)
Seems to me the whole point is trying to produce better English players to make the England national team better right?
I don't think an absence of quality in English footballers a) exists and b) is the reason why England aren't competing in the top tier of world football. Sure it'd be better if there were more of them but... y'know.
Seems like a plan which is designed to cause disruption and a lack of enjoyment to the vast majority of the professional footballing pyramid so that we can enjoy slight gains in the performance of the England national team. Bit weird.
Could just make penalty practice mandatory. If we'd won 50% of our shoot outs over the last 25 years we'd have been in either a WC/Euro final and a WC/Euro semi. Seems about par for England for me.
for cup competitions (JPT, Carling Cup, FA?) you could scrap extra time (which is often a ballache on a Tuesday night when you might miss your last train) and instead do a penalty shootout at the start of the game. That gives the team that wins an 0.5 goal advantage. There'd be loads of opportunities to get players taking penalties in 'real life' and it'd make cup games more exciting.
meaning every drawn match ends in a penalty shootout.
Sounds crazy doesn't it? But it's a much more sensible solution to an actual, observable and measurable reason why England haven’t been in major tournament finals to that what the FA is proposing. There's no evidence that having more English players playing in the English top flight = progress at international level.
A complete overhaul of both the principles and the workings of the English Football League in order to compete slightly better in major tournaments? Bit nuts ennit.
playing for the draw and the 'lottery' of a pen shootout. which is what extra time is anyway - you end up with both teams playing for pens and it's dull.
i'd rather it be known at the start so that one team really does have to attack.
to highlight the idiocy of the FA's plans.
West Ham are going to 1-0 Man City with an Andy Carroll headed goal from a Stewart Downing cross, yes?
meanwhile Luis Suarez scores a 60-yard volley while simultaneously realising and regretting all the bad things he's done (it'll be obvious from his face in the replays)
thanks to his sensible wife.
mark lawrenson told me.
we might be selling Grabban for £3 mil....hmmmm
you can see all of human history on Mark Lawrenson's face.
you can't even rebuild on this site anymore....oh the humanity
does seem to ignore that neither Carroll or Downing would have any reason to do Liverpool a favour.
Kevin Nolan on the other hand... I've heard a rumour he might even try running on Sunday.
Allardyce celebrates with an double bass solo, then downs an entire toblerone without chewing, looking Pellegrini straight in the eyes.
football's well boring, eh
"Funny, I thought he'd just signed a £300k per week deal at United" etc.
Dortmund aren't as fun now that Klopp seems like a bit of a berk and they're spending £20m on players rather than filling their side with discarded youth players and Japanese lads.
than in any football thread I've ever seen. What if...the people who post in the football thread don't actually know what they're talking about?
and the notion that this thread starts well is hogwash, so ... QED, I suppose.
I've very openly and repeatedly let it shine
Your shit thread's broken. ABANDON SHIP
smashed to pieces once the clumsy football-threaders came in.
I've got things to say but I also don't want to disobey warny
I'm in a good mood: new oven, Europe Day, other stuff probably.
Can't wait for Sunday now.
Re this B team shit:
Never agreed with this idea that 'an influx of foreigners into the Premier League' means that our national team will be crap. Surely what it means is that the English players that make the PL will have to be better. If they must start dicking around with the system, why not put restrictions on the number of foreign players allowed at youth/reserve level instead?
And another thing: it's not like we were world-beaters pre-PL anyway is it?
And another thing: since when were Howard Wilkinson and Danny Mills the voices of reason?
Sergeant Wilko was quoted as saying that the England team would be on the level of Cyprus in 10 years or so
clearly - in theory at least - should be a voice of reason give his achievements. to pick him out over rio ferdinand (ffs) is pretty mental
(aside from it reaking of the usual FA jobs for the boys thinking)
But, whether you think he's a duck-gobbed prat or not, Ferdinand's views are much more relevant
Get better if they play more matches.
BUT I would find it vaguely amusing to see a bunch of lightweight, 17 year old rich kids getting utterly fucked over by some League Two journeymen keen to end some careers they never had. These kids better get used to hoofing the ball forwards a lot and jumping at awkward angles to head a ball out.
Are they allowed to get promoted? If they're not then it's a shit idea, if they can then it's a shit idea also.
These proposals wouldn't allow for promotion to the Championship.
Also I think they operate as seperate clubs/squads, so for example Real can't drop someone like Jese or Morata into the B squad for a couple of games to get some match fitness, so if you're in the A squad, but not getting picked then you just don't get to play any football.
Rafa Honigstein was tweeting last night that most Bundesliga clubs are on the verge of ditching their B teams because the standard or opposition is so low that young players are better off being loaned out, which is also cheaper for the parent club.
if say the fourth and fifth placed teams in League One ended up getting automatic promotion and the ninth placed team (or lower?) won the play-offs.
Dyke trying to say that clubs are on the verge of bankruptcy and this would help, surely they are underestimating how hard clubs would be hit if a reserve league like this in all but name came in - rich owners would pull out because i's not what they were buying into as a result of sponsors would pull out, would Sky bother purchasing the rights, attendances plummetting (someone posted on a Charlton forum that Bayern Muncih B's last attendance was 668 people), surely most clubs would go out of business and the competition that these young English players would gain experience from would seriously suffer, would it even be worth it?
Would these clubs be allowed into cup competitions? If yes, that would be shit because some clubs would be effectively cup-tied with each other, if no, that would be shit because the B clubs would have a massive advantage over other clubs in the league.
dunno how i'm going to make another 30 of these.
anyway, maradona is the most celebrated unsportsman of recent times, what else have you enjoyed or frothed at the mouth at?
made me incandescent with rage
that was such an amazing game
Think I may have started bleating about life bans after at the time.
i thought it was brilliant
I can tell you that everyone in Brixton now hates Suarez.
same over there
South Korea v Italy at WC 2002
Still the best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDXkVGpMpc
Nice counterpoint to the meths wall vid from yesterday too.
his family would be killed.
Thierry Henry handball v Ireland
but it was hugely enjoyable at the last one when Argentina scored an offside goal against Mexico, and then the Mexican team saw the slo-mo replay on the big screens and went mental. Brilliantly farcical.
Rubbish game made infinitely more fun when they just started kicking the living shit out of each other. 4 red cards & 16 yellows!
Great shot of (I think) Van Bronckhorst and a couple of Portugese players sitting next to each other having been sent off, looking all "that escalated quickly"
all barca players?
Gets forgotten because he's sexy and erudite now and the other guy is called Tab, but it's genuinely vicious.
Best bit is Keegan on co-comms trying to justify it because Ramos was pulling his shirt until they see replay from a particularly damning angle
Prison time wouldn't have been unfair.
Bilic pretending Blanc had killed him.
Caniggia getting wiped out eventually. Almost killed.
Diana Ross and her pen that clearly didn't cross the line.
Jack Charlton wearing that baseball cap.
Schillachi mafiosi death threats.
They mainly all involve death.
(technically it _was_ a football world cup....)
so that both of them would go through.
who can forget Peter Crouch's one-man visual explanation on why dreadlocks are bad
YouTube comments <3
"yeah all these talks bout rooney and crouch rooney is a better player no questions asked no mastter who scored more rooney is still better"
so I guess not?
i like it was clearly the third attempt to just hack him down.
Particularly love the boot left on the floor afterwards.
I'm average height and quite slim.
Currently sporting a sunburn/tan from the last DiS footy game.
any ideas? Clearly not inspired by our impending 17 goal swing?
Relies on Spurs losing at home to Villa. Makes perfect sense for it to be on.
"From a neutral point of view, everybody would like to see Liverpool win it. From a personal point of view I'd like to see Steven Gerrard win it. It's the last thing for him which he hasn't quite achieved at Liverpool. He's been a one club man all his life. Obviously they've let it slip out of their hands. They had it to take, but they've now left it in the hands of Manchester City. On form and the position they're in, you'd have to say Manchester City are the favourites."
and 'Liverpool are chokers' thing that seems to be going around.
Man City have always had several games in hand on Liverpool and I think most people expected them to win enough of them to be able to make up the gap.
Liverpool have taken 31 points from the last available 36, Man City have taken 29.
should've done better against Chelsea
or 45? or 33? or 24?
Got his cunty fingerprints all over it.
WITHOUT CHECKING, when do you think the World Cup starts?
Anyone think they can go one better than racist Ant?
it's usually the 10th(ish)
(And no Ant/Royter, that is not Carlton Palmer.)
i don't get it.
Just Sheffield Wednesday fans being classy.
Tournament dream team predictions?
this has Friday afternoon written all over it
to go back to an earlier hype s-t, might have him as my waste of money 100/1 golden boot bet.
Someone else can tell me that none of this lot will play/are all injured:
CB Ramos (and top scorer)
MF di Maria
Someone make another good team but with different players
MF Yaya Toure
GK Hart (yeah...well maybe not)
CB Sergio Ramos (and top scorer)
CB Cahill (yeah)
LB Jordi Alba (but really Lahm)
MF Yaya Toure
by copying out the wrong answers.
GK Lloris - 4 (plays on through brain injuries á la Troutman)
RB Alves - 10 (wears 22 in honour of Abidal/laughs in face of racism)
CB Jagielka - 2.4
CB Thiago - 3.1
LB *open position*
FW Ozil - 7.6 (left big club to play football the way it should be played)
FW Messi - 10 (doesn't dive, was probably bollocks about his agent)
(which I've probably asked before)
Why does everyone hate Wayne Rooney so much?
Apart from Suarez, highest number of goals(17)/assists(10) this season, top scorer in qualifiers(6 in 10) for England - yet so many people saying he's fat, lazy, and shouldn't go to the World Cup at all...
I agree that he isn't performing as well as he could be, but that doesn't really stop him from still being pretty much the best attacking option you've got available.
So's Ashley Cole, and he's been your best performer over the last decade and no one seems to mind.
rooney is a bellend who's been fucking awful and often petulant in all but about 3 games in the last decade
there's the difference
I don't really want to seem like I'm swimming against the tide, but it looks like he's scored nearly 40 goals for England in 90 matches.
He really can't have been THAT bad to do so well?
he hasn't scored a single goal in his 8 matches at World Cups.
Time to deliver, I guess.
Probably not a fair comparison as we operate on a different level, but I'd love to have a player like him for Scotland...
he'd be even fatter.
Euro 2004. Seeing an 18-year-old Rooney burn through every defence. EVERY time he got the ball you thought we were going to score. Hard to explain to anyone who didn't see it, but it was the most exciting thing to happen to the England team in a decade.
And, since then, nothing. Bloody hope.
remember how Portugal put a hit on him, how well he was playing in that tourney?
Brave Wayne playing through the pain, but only at about 60-70%?
and he's quite clearly a fantastic footballer who has done the business for his club year in year out with an almost unrivalled consistency.
But when he pulls on an England shirt... everything seems to go wrong. He looks leaden-footed, pedestrian and just gets in everyone's fucking way. England just look better without him in the team.
Still not sure whether or not that's his or the manager's fault but... I can't remember the last time Rooney played well for England. Really can't. Every time I've seen him for United this season (about half a dozen) he's been great mind. The only player who seemed to want to play under Moyes weirdly...
in pretty much every international tournament since that 2004 one where he was ok but not as great as everyone pretended he was.
Would love to watch a compilation of all his touches in the 2010 world cup. Reckon it'd be hilarious
and destroyed the lovely myth about their team. Reckon they need to get another mad manager in again for a bit. Maybe Boban could do the job, start a few riots again:
is Argentina's group gonna yield 50 Messi goals as I expect it to?
Remember finding really good odds of him as top-scorer + someone to win it. Might put all my world cup money on him+Brazil/Spain/Argentina, £20 each
Things that I do know:
-Altidore scored a hat-trick against Bosnia-Herzegovina. Had him in my fantasy team at the start of the season based on that
-Jonathan Wilson says Iran's defence was key to the qualification but surely that's still pretty shite?
-Enyeama's good. Dunno about the Nigeria defence. Yobo must be old
Every bit a different player for his international team as Rooney is.
If Aguero isn't broken, he'll probably score loads.
didn't Argentina play him as a deep-lying playmaker? Didn't really work.
Not sure they still do as I think the big controversy is that Tevez won't be in the squad.
Quite literally didn't ever occur to me that there's a cash prize involved. Please hazard a guess as to what it is and I will tell you if you're correct and hopefully that should see me through to hometime.
Exactly £103.00 with delivery from John Lewis
14 of that
I am excited about the world cup
thewarn has ruined today
QPR getting promoted would put the football league in negative moral points for the next decade.