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Commute into Old Street, will it be a pain?
How affordable an area is it? etc etc etc
except I live about 3 miles from Greenwich and it's a fucking complete pain in the arse to get to on public transport)
What would the train be from Greenwich to London Bridge? 10 mins or something? Then 3 stops on the Northern Line to Old Street. Easy
Greenwich, and so you'd not be able to get on, and whether the Northern Line at London Bridge is so packed that you'd have the same problem. I think you'd have to do a few dry-runs to see.
Don't think that'll be an issue...
i have a friend who lives in deptford which is alright nearer greenwich. plus they have good breakfast place and a big boat.
Loads of those new apartment blocks which look suspiciously cheap for what they offer. What's the catch Marckee?
It went through a period a few years ago where it was in danger of being taken over by posh kids slumming it in art squats, but that seems to have receded a bit. It is full of cheap blocks of flats - sorry, "apartments" - though.
Especially for new-builds? Some of them have gyms and swimming pools and stuff, there must be something glaringly obviously wrong with them surely?
Deptford has a bit of a reputation. I don't mind it, and a lot of it will come down to exactly where your flat is in relation to the shops and the stations, but you might want to ask your girlfriend if she has any worries about walking home at night on her own.
The whole move is based around the fact she's just secured a job at a school on Lewisham Road and will want to be walking distance from it ideally so yeah. Will have a good, hard think about safety concerns.
Will always go and meet her at the bus/train stops late at night even where we currently are. Not that I'm any sort of deterrent whatsoever mind you.
Reports and stories of how rough they are get passed on and an area gains a reputation despite not really being like that for years. Brixton's been pretty nice for about a decade now.
Deptford was pretty shite when I went there 10 years ago but the reason SE London is now being moved to more and more is down to being priced out of other areas, pure and simple. Loads of artists around our way now because East London is too pricey.
a few places around creek road which are good. Decent pub there called The Duke, five minute walk to greenwich, on the trainline, also walkable to new cross if you want to go there. which is nice.
It's the only place in London I've not felt very safe walkig around after dark. Or in fact, in board daylight, which is when I saw a guy get slashed outside the carribean restaurant in deftford high street. tat's just my own slightly scary experience though and I've definitely tottered through more dangerous places whilst rubbered and oblivious.
the worst thing I can think of happening there was a particularly brutal murder by some thieves who tied up a stranger and couldn't get his credit card to work
really really eerie. It was never very bus, even when I was running for a train at 9, and you could see tumbleweed blowing down the road most of the day. Apart from the poor guy who sat outside the church alternately singing and shouting for his mum.
then I'm sure Ant is reassured
It's alright, pretty inoffensive
Pretty nice place. Reminds me of Richmond or Kingston but less slick. A few good pubs (especially off the side roads or on the Thames), great big park, Arthouse cinema, o2 nearby, several museums, a record exchange, a big old boat, some great outdoor gigs and comedy in the summer, buzzing market on Saturday.
Can be a bit dead in winter months yet over run with tourists from June- September. Some see it as miles out but to Old St, its not so bad.
Don't reckon its very cheap though? Guessing, but like Dulwich, Blackheath and Crystal Palace its one of SE London's greener and posher areas. Bexleyheath and Lee would be nearby and cheaper (but not as nice).
Meantime brewery is there too
The beers alright, but the staff are severely lacking in beer knowledge.
Wrote a massive repsonse which this fucking stupid website ate because I wasn't logged in *becvause I'd had to relaunch my broswer for teh 14th time today because the site crashed it for the 14th time today.)
Anyway, transport- I'd do ten min walk to deptford statoin whihc has regular trains to cannon street which take ten mins, For old street you'd walk a few mintes to bank and then 3 mins on northern line to Old street.
Or cutty sark DLR to the absolute bowels of Bank station (altohugh where the dlr drops you is very handy fo rthe northern line, so actually would work well for you.)
I loed greenwich. I missed being near water when i lived in spitralfields, so it was like a dream to have a flat on the river. An extortionate dream, right enough. I also liked the villagey feel, although you should note that the night life is geared towards tourists and students. And it is an absoluet ballache to get back to unless you wenat to wait on an unreliable nightbus. I don't think I've ever abused my firm's taxi account quite so much as I did in the 9 months I lived there. (vague memories of once ordering three addison lees to pick up DiSers at teh windmill and take them back to mine, hmmm. I can't remember how I justufiued that tyo my expenses colleague. Oh yeah- 'entertaining'.)
I digress, I had a wine at lunch.
and it serves not only central Greenwich but the areas further east as well - goes pretty near my house, after starting up at TCR
and my inabilty to know where I am at that time of night, which is why the addison lee app was great. Press a button, Beam Me Up Scotty.
then power to ya
bus to North Greenwich tube, 10 minutes to London Bridge
if you have no actual interest in Greenwich you can live in a box in the Millennium Village and your total commute will be about 30mins each way
the national rail is great when it isn't shitted up though and there's also DLR from Greenwich itself if you need a backup option (goes to Bank and then Old Street is easy)
Greenwich (the borough) isn't just about the town itself and its various overpriced cafes, but really who'd want to live in Charlton or Woolwich? Madmen, that's who!
(I can reveal more upon request)
from which you can get the Overground to Shoreditch High, takes about 15 mins. I used to live on the Deptford/Greenwich border and I liked it apart from the much publicised ballache to get home late at night.
Cheers for the info.
Sounds good really if the only big issue is getting back late at night given the latest I'm ever really out is when the tube is still running.
Always down at weekends or anything like that?
more so than national rail
Struggling to see a downside really.
Was more or less fully operational during the tube strike last week too.
Really don't see how I will ever be able to afford to buy
I became an expert on uncool bits of SE London but if you're renting I'd probably stick to the big guns (Greenwich, Blackheath, Dulwich). Outside of those, in descending order of preference
Lee (the conservation area bit)
Various pockets of Lewisham - lots of nice houses in Lewisham, but the town centre is a bit shit
The good bit of Catford
The bad bit of Catford
V. v. bad:
they've just replaced Forest Hill Kebabs which a really shit looking cafe so I think you might be right :(
apart from the fact that Forest Hill is actually V. v. v. bad.
It's actually pretty nice
don't expect anyone else to recognise this though
That's why I marked it down. When the surrounding areas catch up it may rise to the heights of The Good Bit Of Catford.
I'd have a look around St Johns, very leafy and relatively cheap, and walking distance to there. Close to New Cross's bars etc without being in the ugly bit of New Cross
Right under the thumb mug I am right?
I went to Uni in Greenwich which was quite a few years ago. I'd probably look more around Blackheath, although it might be pricey.
We had a house one year in Plumstead, which was an absolute hell hole, so avoid there at all cost. Also, avoid Thamesmead and probably Abbey Wood. Also avoid Woolwich.
Hither Green is nice, I went back there for the first time in years a few weeks ago for a funeral and it still seemed nice.
Brockley is supposed to be nice nowadays but it wasn't when I used to pass through. My only real memory was getting the 122 bus from Woolwich back to Crystal Palace one night, and the bus terminated early at Brockley and when I got off I started getting harassed by a group of youths and then another 122 bus went past, as I didn't want to wait any longer I somehow out ran the bus between stops and caught it, if i'd missed it I'm not sure what would have been happened, I'm sure I would have been mugged.
It might be a little out of your way, but Sydenham is okay or at least it used to be.
Dissing Woolwich, mostly. Although I'll be the bigger man and concede that parts of Sydenham are ok. Sydenham's in Lewisham, mind - Millwall's borough
Although it was 10+ years ago, maybe its improved but the high street was a hell hole especially.
If you are wondering why I used to get the 122 instead of the train, I couldn't deal with passing by The Valley and The New Den on a regular basis.
You must agree with me on advising avoiding Plumstead, Thamesmead and maybe not so much Abbey Wood?
If not there has been a hell of a lot of regeneration over the last decade, using some kind of weapon of mass destruction.
Woolwich is much, much nicer now - as said above, Crossrail's a-comin'
and an estate agents that has little screens in its windows.
He started his pitch by assuring us the current residents would be priced out by the new developments so we'd only have to wait a few years before it was populated by "people like you". We didn't stay long.
My female mate lives in Depford and has for some time, she's never had an issue. And she likes to come home late/early/drink like the best of us.
She has a gorgeous flat with a garden for £800 p/m, which is pretty good for London and it has gone up since she first moved there.
I've heard there's some really nice places that way (I'm currently looking for a one bedroom flat but its so expensive). To be honest I've had scary incidents in different areas of London over the years. It's pretty unavoidable.
Maybe look Camberwell way too...that's a bit further from greenwich mind you.
STAY OUT OF CANNING TOWN
It was very nice (both her house and the place in general). Looked pricey though. I got home and Zoopla'd her house to see how much her dad paid for it. Fucking London.
20 minutes on a skybus through futuretown, then a 10 minute walk. What a lovely commute.