Unless you were of voting age during the 70s and lived through that era, you can't possibly say how you would have voted. Lots of decent ordinary working people voted for her- that's exactly how she came to power and is part of teh conundrum about her (since many of her policies had teh pratcial efect of disenfranhising those very same people). So give him a break.
She had an amazing knack of getting peopel top vote against their own economic interests and in getting people to turn their back on solidarity in favour of upward mobility. she promised people a life they never thought they would have been able to have, premised on greed essentially. She was extremely powerful in how she warped the mind of the conuntry (not in the north admittedly, but certainly in the south, midlands and rural areas.)
Lovely Russelll has donated the substantial damages that he won fomr The sun to the Hillsborough justice campaign. What a dude. And he's not a lying spineless cheat either, it seems (well, not whilst with Jemima Khan anyway.)
(I've started reading the Mirror as my 'go-to' news source. Great Critters.)
and how Kinnock and the Labour Party were painted strongly as being about to let the red menace in, too.
I mean, it's hard to really know but I can imagine when people came to vote, the sort of stuff being suggested, about how Kinnock would be swept aside by the commies in the unions and replaced by a Russian puppet, would weigh very heavily on some people. Just read The Fourth Protocol to see the sort of ideas people were dealing with.
don't agree with this. you can look at how your voting patterns are influenced by reaction to society, how your parents influenced your voting patterns and extrapolate what it would've done then. probably
I don't think any less of him at all, but he just never seemed the type of person that I would have associated with voting Conservative, let alone Thatcher thrice.
It was a different poltical ladnscape back then. I'm pretty sure my dad voted for Thatcher, and from a constiuency that is a shipbuilding town in the west of scotland. He's still THE BEST person I know.
I can't stand the leftie hysteria that tries to conflate, without concession, the fact that tory voters are evil.
(also, aren't lefties supposed to be opposed to the concept of inherent evil anyway?)
I like saying leftie.
and like i said they are the best kind of people so i find it strange they do something I think is immoral at a very basic level - doesn't mean I also can't understand why it happens or that I think "less" of them as such.
Not mine, and hardly anyone from home in South Wales
In fact I have Primary School memories of my mam telling me not to bother with Melanie Carter because her parents were Tories.*
*Thatcher was out by then.
Melanie's a ledge
with a hairy hedge
that could do with a dredge
You're being a silly baby
Unless you were of voting age during the 70s and lived through that era, you can't possibly say how you would have voted. Lots of decent ordinary working people voted for her- that's exactly how she came to power and is part of teh conundrum about her (since many of her policies had teh pratcial efect of disenfranhising those very same people). So give him a break.
Depends how many times he voted for her really
Not really
She had an amazing knack of getting peopel top vote against their own economic interests and in getting people to turn their back on solidarity in favour of upward mobility. she promised people a life they never thought they would have been able to have, premised on greed essentially. She was extremely powerful in how she warped the mind of the conuntry (not in the north admittedly, but certainly in the south, midlands and rural areas.)
Fair enough
You were of voting age in the 70s I suppose.
1/10, weak
http://tinyurl.com/l5h3zmc
nah
not low, just not very original or funny. Just Royter really.
I don't like to mess with the brand
Talking of THE BRAND
Lovely Russelll has donated the substantial damages that he won fomr The sun to the Hillsborough justice campaign. What a dude. And he's not a lying spineless cheat either, it seems (well, not whilst with Jemima Khan anyway.)
(I've started reading the Mirror as my 'go-to' news source. Great Critters.)
We should never forget how afraid people were of the USSR
and how Kinnock and the Labour Party were painted strongly as being about to let the red menace in, too.
I mean, it's hard to really know but I can imagine when people came to vote, the sort of stuff being suggested, about how Kinnock would be swept aside by the commies in the unions and replaced by a Russian puppet, would weigh very heavily on some people. Just read The Fourth Protocol to see the sort of ideas people were dealing with.
Unless you were of voting age during the 70s and lived through that era,
you can't possibly say how you would have voted
don't agree with this. you can look at how your voting patterns are influenced by reaction to society, how your parents influenced your voting patterns and extrapolate what it would've done then. probably
"You're being a silly baby"
agree with this.
yeah i guess with empathy you can
Good point. However I don't think the OP was even trying to empathise.
Depends whether you believe that you can truly know the past or not though.
I need to know the past.
ask your historical boyfriend
I was mostly joking really
I don't think any less of him at all, but he just never seemed the type of person that I would have associated with voting Conservative, let alone Thatcher thrice.
ah, fair enough
It was a different poltical ladnscape back then. I'm pretty sure my dad voted for Thatcher, and from a constiuency that is a shipbuilding town in the west of scotland. He's still THE BEST person I know.
There's a chance my great grandparents voted Hitler
so chill out.
"a chance"
Don't judge yourself by your parents.
cos they're obviously bellends
Both my mum and dad at least once
my Dad probably at every opportunity.
Don't think it's something to call someone out on specifically.
Probably worse to vote UKIP now than Thatcher then
Especially her first time around.
Still, no they didn't. Dogmatic Labourites.
we didnt live in uk for any elections where thatcher was
leader of the conservatives. but boy oh golly would my dad have loved to have voted for her. got all dressed up and sad to go to her funeral and all
my dad used to go out collecting money for the miners
Wow, he sounds great!
nah he's a dick
and a tory
like eltham
:D
trying to think of a joke
about collecting minors but my brain's not having it today.
Yeah my Dad voted Thatcher at every opportunity.
Don't know if he regrets it - but I know the long term legacies of her policies aren't sitting favourably with him.
My mum did, my Dad certainly did not
He never said who he voted for but he hated Thatcher like Damon Albarn hates smiling.
Her Parents voted for Thatcher.
no mine didn't but pretty sure my aunt and uncle did
and probably would again, even though they really are the best kind of people. strange.
It doesn't automatically make them bad people
I can't stand the leftie hysteria that tries to conflate, without concession, the fact that tory voters are evil.
(also, aren't lefties supposed to be opposed to the concept of inherent evil anyway?)
I like saying leftie.
we don't think that tory voters are evil!
just that voting tory is an evil act. simple!
what brusma said
and like i said they are the best kind of people so i find it strange they do something I think is immoral at a very basic level - doesn't mean I also can't understand why it happens or that I think "less" of them as such.
i wasn't being entirely serious...
nah, I doubt they did.
apparently they did
My dad voted for her
Loved her. Working class boy turned entrepreneur/ small businessman. Textbook Thatcherite.
yeah same with my uncle as above
being a small businessman/entrepreneur doesn't automatically make you a conservative.
I wasn't suggesting it did, but your statement is correct.
Your only option is to make him an unperson