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can't be arsed with an OP
though rio was getting an extension?
Wilson looked good. Hopefully, oneof the bigger top 4 clubs won't try and steal him away.
One of the bigger clubs in the top 4. Since Man Utd aren't that club for now (And hopefully never again!)
or one of the bigger teams in the top 12?
How many years will they need to be out of it before Utd aren't considered a 'top 4' club?
I hope so anyway. Was boring as fuck when it was just solid Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal and Liverpool every year, then City replaced Liverpool and nothing changed. Now we've got 5 teams who should all be aiming top 4 as minimum requirement and 2 others who are targeting it. Much better.
Wasn't getting many games, and now Wilson's there as a 4th or 5th choice. This makes me sad. Much love for Little Pea, here.
If he stays we have a great striker with good relationship with the new manager, if he goes, that's one perma-crocked 30-year-old on 250k a week off the payroll.
Hard to call it right now though. Some reports say he's gonna be leaving, others that LvG is gonna make him captain.
Think Rooney has it in his new contract that he has to be captain next season...
If he wants RVP as his captain, there's a fair chance that he'd politely ask Rooney to pipe down or go find another club that'll pay him 300k a week.
is that Rio and Evra are staying
so I'm choosing to see it as a clear indication that the dressing room is in open disarray and all the players hate each other
and you'll still have your fun with Rooney putting in another transfer request over the summer but i genuinely think we will be challenging for the league again next season not just the top 4
Not convinced you'll be league winners or even realistic challengers for a few years yet, but it's a long summer
seems realistic, though depends on what players come in. I think Chelsea and Man City will be unpassable, it's Liverpool and Arsenal you will have to try and overtake
The grass on the pitch will go all moldy as Wayne Spud-U-Like brings his potato famine of woe and high wage bills to Stamford Bridge. Eventually there'll just be David Luiz lying flat on the floor, rolling in piles of bills and paperwork where the field used to be, delirious from the poisonous mushrooms Waynes presence has brought upon them.
away from having a first 11 capable of challenging.
Going to take some serious walking around money to find all of that.
we needed two new central midfielders and 2/4 of a defence two years ago and won the title with ease.
rvp staying fit, 1 world class central midfielder & central defender, 1 good left back and we'd be challenging.
A couple of years ago (and beyond) we had some world class players on the tail end of their prime, and a load of squad players who once looked borderline decent but now seem knackered beyond repair or just don't care anymore.
Not to mention that Fergie supposedly left us with infrastructure stuck in the dark ages, and built entirely around one man, the youth academy has slipped way behind other *ahem* elite development squads, Woodward doesn't appear to know his arse from his ankle, the Glazers are more interested in running a business than a football club etc. etc.
This season is a culmination of many problems, and LvG is just one guy who happens to have a proven record doing a rebuilding job. Still see people having a few good chuckles at us over the summer and into next season.
De Gea - Good enough
Rafael - Maybe good enough needs a strong manager though
SJE - probably good enough with a decent partner
Smalling - Not good enough
Jones - probably good enough again needs managing properly
Evra - Shit all season at everything but the occasional attacking flourish
Vidic - so long
Rio - way past it
No bants but I genuinely think you need 3 new players in that defence to genuinely compete at the top level again. All well and good saying they won the league a season ago but you can't have a back four made entirely of pensioners or back ups.
so probably just talking guff.
Who is SJE?
RVP staying fit is a big gamble and whatever you think convincing world class players to take a year out of the champions league is going to be a struggle.
Our problems go far deeper than having a ropey manager this season, and we'd have to have a ludicrously successful summer to replace all the shite players with good-to-great ones, who are happy to miss out on Champions League football. Even then you'd be asking a completely new squad to gel together very quickly.
Hoping we'll get top 4, nothing else.
but you're really not *that* far from getting into the top four. You'll probably finish a dozen or so points off 4th place, but you can put that down to Moyes' bizarre ineptitude in a handful of games plus the fact that the 4th place points tally is unusually high this season.
Reckon you'll be back in the mix with relatively few, low-key signings and a good manager.
Evra was ill
but it only really dawned on me this morning just how extraordinary it is, in general, to lose a three goal lead in the final 10 minutes of a game. Obviously West Brom do it most weeks but for everyone else, well weird.
can only say fair fuck to them, they deserve it much more than us in this final stretch, we put ourselves down when we lost to West Brom and Fulham consecutively.
So, next year I'm looking forward to:
THE OLD FARM DERBY
Potentially loads of London games: QPR, Fulham (boo), Charlton, Millwall, Brentford, Orient, Brighton
The possibility of actually winning games again and maybe even enjoying watching football again?
Things i'm not looking forward to:
The Championship being a shitehouse league generally
Robert Snodgrass leaving :(
Genuinely have no idea who will stay on for us, like Wolfswinkel and Hooper have hardly proved themselves to move anywhere, and I think Redmond should come down with us as he's still young. No way will Ruddy stay, or probably Martin Olsson, which is a shame because he's quietly been one of our best players this year.
Might be outlandish, but I'm hoping we go in to get him back this summer. Doesn't seem to be in your team much, and he's best mates with James Vaughan.
he was injured for a long time though so that's probably why, but I dunno weird player. After that goal against United he's not really done much
Really odd, he was far too good for League 1, then got a bad injury in his last game for us. Seemed to recover alright though, but then nothing.
Debt free aren't you? I can't imagine you'll be pillaged by other clubs too badly given a lot of underperformance this season, which will help. And plenty of players who have played in the championship before as well
think you're right, but Snoddy will be off to Celtic if no one else comes in for him and Ruddy probably needs to be in the premier league for his England credentials, otherwise hopefully we can be OK.
The funny thing is though, who do we actually want to keep? I think Redmond and Hooper will be great (again) in the championship and surely Ricky, but then maybe it's better to purge given how bad we've been.
Bradley Johnson and Luciano Becchio can go back to Leeds
keepers are much of a muchness. There I said it.
look at this bit of intra-club bants: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2616834/Carlo-Nash-favourite-Norwich-Citys-Player-Season-despite-not-playing-game-fans-hijack-voting-system.html
this season. Apparently. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/norwich-city/top-scorers
Was he great for his first few games or something, and then turned gash? Anyway, the Scots press are loving the story that he could maybe return to Celtic. As a Celtic fan I'm not sure it's a great idea.
(thanks to olegrich for this one)
"This brought involuntary tears of cringe to my eyes."
Geographically confused though, given it seems to be a promotional aid aimed specifically at people who are not going to Wembley.
Listen to that wet fish Vermaelen. No passion, no fight.
are the Away Boyz, adult human beings in chinos and quiffs cryswearing on ArsenalFanTV, and slow-motion replays of Drogba toying with Senderos like a cat toys with a fatally-injured mouse. The above is by far the most dignified Arsenal broadcast I have personally laid eyes on.
Like a football shark on smack
really are charisma-free zones
I read an interview with Aaron Ramsey and he was talking about saving animals in Africa and everything.
In this season of maximum schadenfreude, Arsenal are clearly going to lose the FA Cup. This cleverly absorbs all the negative energy and deflects it away from the final, leaving Arsenal ready to pick up the trophy.
I bet Hull have got one, probably written by the guy from The Beautiful South.
tell me about the current states of the african teams, are any of them ever gonna be good and who's gonna do an upset.
I'm guessing ivory coast still look like a top 5 prem team on paper but will be shit again, cameroon will just be disappointing and don't know anything about ghana.
The last two World Cups they got really hard groups. They're past their best now though probably.
Bony, Yaya, Kalou, Drogba (?)
But maybe Kolo in defence, so.
better first name than gareth
Cameroon: they're not in a terrible state, they're kind of average Cameroon like they've been for the last 12 years. would be AMAZED if they get out of their group though. Brazil will go through, and Mexico always seem to get knocked out in the second round. and THEN there's Croatia too. so sod them
Ivory Coast: finally got a group they can qualify from - each of they, Colombia, Greece and Japan could beat each other on any day (though i fancy Japan to win the group). they do look quite old in defence, other than Serge Aurier at right back. but they're a decent shout for 2nd round
Nigeria: d'you know what, i actually like this Nigerian team, who are less like the idiotholes of 2010 by not having Sani Kaita in the squad any more. they've got the best African keeper (Enyeama) and a good midfield. look shaky upfront and no depth in defence. but Iran and Bosnia are definitely beatable in the group
Ghana: they're still the best of the African teams, but up against Germany, Portugal and the ever-improving USA could stutter (though i think/hope Portugal will flop). bags and bags of quality and depth everywhere except goalkeeper, expect Asamoah Gyan to score a redemptive late penalty at least once. hopefully against Uruguay, cannoning in off Luis Suarez's face.
Algeria: your obligatory boring North African team. they'll go out in the group stages. at least Tunisia didn't qualify though.
Stephen Keshi is in constant disagreement with their FA, Geordie Shola up front because all their strikers are shit, madly reliant on Victor Moses and 21 year old Ahmed Musa.
If Ghana play anything like the last AFCON, they'll be pretty decent and then a chance will come to Gyan and he'll fluff it because he's been dicking about in a piss poor league on a massive pile of cash for three years.
Scorpio-hating oddball, Raymond Domenech, now manages the under-11s at some low-level French club.
If you've got any horoscope bants or a joke about the maturity of the players he's now working with that'd be ace.
They are shit mate
probably be banned for the FA cup now. What a spanner.
I'd love to be up to my eyeballs in newspaper coverage of teams and players and stuff but there's hardly anything, yet I'm pretty sure I saw some sort of Jeff Stelling voiced advert promoting Listerine as the Official World Cup Mouthwash© last night.
something to do with capitalism?
but you'd think more general football-centric hype would spill over into a Listerine buying frenzy. I should know, I spent LOADS on London 2012 merch once it got going.
whatever happens, your breath better be really minty by the time the DiS WC football-watching meet-up occurs
It’s the Greatest League In The World™ that pays the bills.
I need a fix
Can we have an audit? I always think people generally like Norwich but some of our decisions recently have made us take a solid mid-table "Joke Club"
Leeds and Manchester Utd currently at the top? Arsenal up there but can't even win that title? Newcastle occupying the top 4?
but imbued with too looming a malevolence to be an out-right joke. A bit like a fictionalised 1950s Soviet small town mayor- you'll snigger at his administrative incompetence, but there's always a lingering fear that you'll end up in a gulag if the wrong person overhears you.
i think we're doing the same job in the joke club table that Pulis&Palace are doing in the real league table - ie seemed to have established a boring monotony of underachievement for a relatively long period but have literally shot up the table in the second half of the season - the kind of joke club form that could have won the damn thing but obviously the sustained joke club antics of some others over the course of the season keep us out of the true elite. Expecting big things next season.
Newcastle (maximum possible)
Tottenham Hotspur (fabulous joke season)
Cardiff City (football shirt under blazer but tucked INTO trousers, leather gloves in summer)
Manchester United (plane)
Arsenal (potential to make the top 2 pending result of FA Cup final)
Sunderland (still Sunderland)
Liverpool (Toure shower curtain, Toure own goals)
Chelsea (whip around for Jose’s fine)
West Ham United (http://talksport.com/magazine/virals/130516/funny-talksport-caller-and-west-ham-fan-slates-chelseas-plastic-fans-eur-197703)
Norwich (anonymous geography teacher parachuted in to save club with 5 games to go)
Fulham (five managers [3 perm + Curbs and Wilkins])
Hull City (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgS1RFk1cU8)
Manchester City (for losing the title when they only needed 4 points from Villa and W*ham)
Stoke (transfer deadline day Britannia rabble)
Crystal Palace (http://i.minus.com/ibfr0iRNgko1u5.gif)
West Brom (too boring to be a joke)
Aston Villa (see West Brom)
Everton (very dignified season)
I would argue Fulham have been more of a joke than us but otherwise pretty spot on
Tottenham want Joe Allen and Liverpool are close to convincing Sagna to join them. suuuuure.
Not sure how it all works with signing on fees but I think that's where the bulk of his payday is going to come from.
Sagna wouldn't be a bad thing, I just can't see it happening.
Could really do with some big defensive marquee signing to help everyone relax a bit like Hummels or Subotic.
which also won't happen, unfortunately :(
please refer to yesterday's thread
in all seriousness? anyone we may the over-inflated wages for.
There haven't been any in the UK yet, right?
my multi-quadruple winning Sheffield Wednesday manager who says she has no opinion on Jose Mourinho because she's never heard of him, you mean?
Although I'm fucking cringing already about the stifled smirks on Soccer Saturday if the first female manager fails or has a particularly bad match.
"We were so busy wanking ourselves into a premature clickbait orgasm over Liverpool that we forgot virtually everyone else in the world has had City down as favourites since August and that they're actually pretty handy, but YOU need to give them more respect now"
"That is the problem with FFP - it enshrines the principle that might is right, big equals good. It seeks to perpetuate the hegemony of the clubs with the most supporters and the most revenue. There is no fantasy about it.
City’s story represents the dream of every downtrodden club, every poor relation - that one day it can be propelled to the top.
It has happened in front of us at Manchester City, and all UEFA want to do is punish them for it."
He's such a dickhead
"If they thrash Aston Villa at the Etihad, City could become the only team to join the Chelsea of 2009-10 in scoring 100 goals in a Premier League season."
Ignoring the fact that Liverpool need to score 1 more to join that exclusive club.
where they were winning by at least 5 goals and malouda looked world class?
the fucking worst journalist of all time
After Ryan Giggs finally lived the dream of becoming a Player-Manager, who do you think would offer the most entertainment with a 20 minute cameo?
Would love to see how Big Sam could handle himself in the Andy Carroll role.
Or Jose stumbling about the pitch like a broken old man.
Pards throwing himself around in such a way as to make Scott Parker look like Berbatov would be pretty funny though.
Can someone find that? It was presented by Skinner and Baddiel
Good work Lucien.
There's footage of him playing as a proto-Andy Carroll
Channeling some Magath Messi Magic, the audience stands in silent awe watching his little feet twinkle ten to the dozen, alluding all in his path before a glitter sprinkled finish the likes of which would sit comfortably on canvas in the Louvre. Fulham then lose 3-1.
floundering around the pitch like a beached whale
The managerial equivalent of that day Jon Walters scored two own goals, missed a penalty and kicked the ball into his own face. Imagine the hilarious damage Moyes could have done if only he could cross the byline.
Harsh on Moyes, but any mention of that Walters bunglefest gets me on board
He'd brutally hack someone down, then have a guy running alongside him cleanly tackle the ball seconds later.
or pulis coming on and having the technical flair but work ethic of le tissier would be good.
Rio Ferdinand | Neil Lennon
Thierry Henry | Clarence Seedorf
After all the excitement about this in the thread the other day, I can't help but feel disappointed with this.
Hoped for someone a bit more leftfield.
Swap him for Wee Gordon and I'd have been a bit happier.
after the success of Roy 'Maybe He'll Punch Another Pundit' Keane.
but I've honestly been fairly impressed the few times I've seen him punditing.
But considering there's no Shearer, Savage, Bagpuss etc, I assume that's just the guest pundits.
And yes, fuck off Rio. And Neil Lennon actually, what the fuck does he know about the World Cup?
Alan Hansen, Alan Shearer, Chris Waddle, Martin Keown, Kevin Kilbane, Mark Lawrenson, Danny Mills, Danny Murphy, Phil Neville, Robbie Savage, Pat Nevin, Jason Roberts and John Hartson.
The World Cup can fuck right off if there's no miserable Lawro complaining about local culture and pampered footballers
But his "I fucking hate it here and wish I could just go back to Preston" schtick had worn very, very thin by the final last year.
Actually, he was annoying from the start
loved his withering dismissal of players in the last world cup
and after Pearce read out the team sheet he went "made this lot look like mugs 4 years ago"
Love that man.
he supersedes such rivalries
hate all of them. dont want to watch the games they're on.
if there's no shearer I could end up missing hating him
It would be even more hilarious if they paid that lot millions each year and gave them a holiday for the World Cup.
- Can't pronounce his own name, never mind exotic-sounding ones
- Bound to drunkenly instigate a hilarious diplomatic row
- Puppy dog enthusiasm for women and bright lights
He'd be a viewing sensation
and were asked to guess which players in the highlights would become pundits, you couldn't have picked much worse than savage, hartson, jason sodding roberts and danny murphy.
is david james going? he was blaming the recent spurs free kick debacle 100% on tim sherwood the other day, that was fun.
That'd have been better.
Joe Hart and Jack Wilshere have an air of bullish Captain, Leader, Legend 'everything I say is important and relevant' aggrandisement to them, and are eminently more employable (for now) than the main man himself. They must be shoe-ins.
I can see Gary Cahill being a Terminator sent back in time to spout trite, leg-squeezing Yorkshire pleasantries long after they should have died.
like Steven Pienaar or Chris Brunt.
and he's too small. You need to be a decent height/size otherwise it looks like a child's been invited along. Or a giant. It's why you don't see too many massive goalies or diddly midfield wizards as pundits. THINK ABOUT IT. #moker
and I expect giant atomic supermen and tiny insectoids to be all the rage in the future anyway
For every Shearer there's a Savage, Murphy, Roberts, Mills and Hartson. I'm thinking Kevin Nolan and Phil Bardsley.
I'm going to try and make double inverted-comma-abbreviations a thing:
Good looking lad, nice hair, regional accent, don't think anybody hates him (maybe Stoke fans, but they'll have receeded into obscurity by then) and he's already perfected the art of being fairly erudite without ever saying anything remotely interesting.
More thoughtful and articulate than your average footballer in front of a mic. Wouldn't be surprised to see him rise up the pundit class when he retires.
though ohgood must be gutted
I think without so many fixtures Swansea could have a much better season next time around
They need to be very lucky with transfers though especially after they sell Bony. Won't be able to prop up a league table on Shelvey's bonce, it'd slip right off.
Is he dead?
Can't bear to log back in to see how badly I'm doing.
Thought I'd made an excellent choice when he scored in his first game. If Spurs had got penalties every week instead of Liverpool I'd be rolling in points
as your starting strike partnership you'd be laughing to the bank
That's quite funny though (only the bit where Podolski skies it and also when the granny slaps Arteta on the arse)
mainly for the bits you mentioned, and for some reason Per drinking the milk in the background late on.
It is my belief that he is not particularly good at football. If I'm right then that's a bad decision by the manager.
no teenage wunderkinds, no old men.
No country for old men
Pato's too busy answering the age old question of what its like to sleep with Berlusconi's daughter, and Leandro Damiao is more conceptual art piece than real person these days.
From the games I've seen him in recently he's been playing fairly well.
Goalkeepers: Júlio César (Toronto FC), Jéfferson (Botafogo), Victor (Grêmio).
Defenders: Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Roma), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Maxwell (Paris Saint-Germain), David Luiz (Chelsea), Thiago Silva (Paris Saint-Germain), Dante (Bayern Munich), Henrique (Napoli).
Midfielders: Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburg), Paulinho (Tottenham), Ramires (Chelsea), Fernandinho (Manchester City), Oscar (Chelsea), Willian (Chelsea), Hernanes (Internazionale), Bernard (Shakhtar Donetsk).
Forwards: Fred (Fluminense), Neymar (Barcelona), Hulk (Zenit St Petersburg), Jô (Atlético Mineiro).
(had to make up a few players but you get the idea)
Can't accept that they don't have a better centre-forward than Jo.
I have seen and most of them play in the premier league. Don't know what that says about football but I'm sure it says something...
Gilberto, Elano and Felipe Melo started every game.
from his Man City days. No idea what happened to him when left. But yes those others are not the best
Then he was never heard from again.
What a midfield that could've been.
I can't ever bring myself to google Johnson to see how fat he's got.
that's not a bad squad.
Would be my team.
no coutinho either
when they're 3-0 up against Botswana in the last group game.
I don't need metaphors or wit, just cold, hard facts.
The World Cup is ours!!!
Julio Cesar is now captained by Steven Caldwell
Cesar was awful.
On the plus side, Canadanian West Ham legend Alex Bunbury's son was playing up front against the Canadanians. His name is Teal Bunbury. Teal!
He hasn't scored in two years and the Toronto fans had made a banner that said "Alex is a Legend. Teal is a Colour."
Thierry Henry's strike partner is Bradley Wright-Phillips
Doing what, I don't know (presumably rapping?!)
Martinez has done well this year. No-one can deny that.
Well done to them for finishing where they did, albeit above a truly terrible Spurs and a Man United in temporary disrepair. That’s where the praise ends. The last four games have been an absolute disaster for Everton. Rolled over by Palace and Southampton, done by City at Goodison - those results have ended up defining their season. If they’d have done better in those four they would be challenging with Arsenal now for 4th spot. Get into the Champions League, attract great players and get a huge injection of cash. It would’ve been a superb platform to build on and they MIGHT have even convinced Lukaku to stay. The gap between finishing 4th and 5th is enormous.
Instead, Lukaku will go, as will Deulofeu. United are going to splurge, Spurs are swapping their PE teacher for a manager, Arsenal will remain Arsenal, if Liverpool keep Suarez, they will improve. Everton won’t be able to loan their way to success this year. Their already-thin squad will be picked at (you’d think someone would want Barkley and Coleman), and what’s left will be stretched over 4 competitions, including the gruelling Europa League. Maybe they've got a youth squad full of John Stones-quality kids ready to come through, but if not, I see a season of misery for them.
Think Deufofeu has already signed on for another season, not sure though. Hes a bit shit anyway. Can tell everytime he has the ball and tries to skin the whole team instead of passing that he feels hes too good for Everton.
but he's definitely more promising than any of their attacking players, bar Mirrallas.
Liverpool are secured in the Champions League. Competing in that and the League is obviously going to be a lot harder than just the latter, but we're in a great position to strengthen to prepare for it. The biggest IF is if we keep Suarez. Rodgers has said he lost out on a lot of players last year due to us not being in Europe. If he sorts out his habit of signing bad players / unproven kids, I'm confident he could improve this side. Consider how good we've been for most of this season. With an improved defence, why would we be any worse than we are currently?
Henderson's suspension showed just how thin the squad is. Reckon Suso will be able to do a job next year but Aspas us unmitigated pap and Joe Allen is currently our backup for every single other central midfielder.
Liverpool's success was not based on a steady rise increasing squad size and depth of quality. It was a team in fantastic form. Form is temporary. Squad depth doesnt come in one transfer window but over a number of years. Liverpool will need to rely on other teams not improving and replicating the form they had this season which wont happen. Teams dont just win 11(?) games on the bounce every season.
Players will be tired after a World Cup as well. Having a bigger squad will be even more important. You could say the reason United won the league after the last WC and Euros was because Fergie managed his squad rotation better than the other managers, who knows. You can almost guarantee that numerous teams will be tipped for the title at xmas only to fade away due to fatigue next season. Maybe this is true every season but its even more true when they dont get a long summer break. I get the feeling Liverpool will be one of the teams who suffer the most.
Also they will be a victim of their own success with teams retreating and trying to shut up shop rather than beat them.
helped by but not reliant upon a nice clean run of fixtures that only took its toll over Christmas, for two difficult games.
Why would we need to rely on teams not improving? Chelsea improved in January, drastically, and we overtook them. Granted they were January signings, but they've made a big impact (especially Matic), but United and Tottenham will be starting from scratch. Two decent managers taking over, true, but who's to say one won't do a Scolari? Neither has a squad you'd particularly want to inherit, neither is guaranteed to be a Prem success.
Fatigue... not so sure. All the top sides will have a lot of World Cup players. Most of ours will be out in the group stage with England. Suarez looks tired already, so I do worry for him. But Suarez had a busy summer in 2013 with the Confeds. Came back and had the season of his life, albeit after a bitey ban.
It's all guesswork, but only us, City and Palace have continued to improve towards the back end of this season. I've read numerous people predicting an enormous struggle for Liverpool next year, but it massively underestimates our ability to get better, which we've done continuously during Rodgers' tenure.
As for the shutting up shop, we started demolishing teams in December. Nobody has been able to shut up shop vs Liverpool successfully since then, barring a hugely wealthy Champs League mainstay with a manager who's won numerous medals doing so. It was nothing new and it was against one of the best defences in Europe.
with the possible exception of palace, but every team loses games they shouldn't.
I never thought they'd get 4th, not even when they beat us. Their remaining fixtures were always way too hard. They've done well, and Martinez has done well, but without lukaku i don't think they'll get close next season, which is weird cos i think Everton is about Lukaku's level tbh.
at 20 years old, let's not forget.
Finishing 4th didn't do anything for Everton the last time, or indeed Tottenham who actually managed to get quite far in the Champions League. I don't think finishing in the top 4 once is enough to make that much of a difference.
Qualifying next season is going to be tough for every team outside of Man City and Chelsea. I will be surprised if Liverpool get anywhere near the title next season - expect Real Madrid to get Suarez. Tottenham have been funny (against the top teams) rather than terrible throughout this season. I wouldn't be surprised by any finishing order for between 3rd and 7th next season.
The climax to the season has undoubtedly been disappointing, the Palace game was the killer, but fair fucks to Palace they played great and deserved to win- if our second home defeat of the season comes in April again next season I'll be happy. 5th, with our highest Premier League points total, in the first season for a decade with a new man in charge is still a great achievement, more than anyone realistically expected, and 'defines our season' more than missing out on something that was a pipe dream to begin with (as it goes I'd sooner win a trophy than finish 4th anyway- as naive as it may sound, I'd rather tell my grandkids about the time I saw us win a cup final than the time we went out to Porto in the last 16 and got some TV money we spunked on a shite signing and 3 years worth of interest on the debt). If anyone does want Barkley or Coleman they'll have to stump up a fucking fortune to do it, and I'd trust that we could spend the money wisely. We will undoubtedly need to bring in a good few new faces, especially a striker or two, but we apparently have money to spend (nothing to compare to the big hitters obviously, but money all the same), the likes of Gibson, Oviedo and McGeady who for various reasons have barely featured this season will hopefully be like the cliched new signings, and whisper it quietly but Lukaku has had just as many bad games as good- he certainly hasn't carried the team, and I'd be slightly disappointed if we couldn't find another forward to score 15 goals next season. Deulofeu is no doubt a very talented, exciting prospect, the sort who catches the eye of casual observers, but the fact is he has started a grand total of nine league games, playing the full 90 minutes twice, and has 3 goals and 3 assists to his name. Don't get me wrong I'd be made up if we keep him for another season, but it'd hardly leave a gaping hole in the side if he went back to Barca. In McCarthy, Coleman, Stones and Barkley we have some of the best young players in the league (Coleman pushing it to be described as young, to be fair), the sort you can dream of building a side around for a few years to come (because they're not on loan, EVER-LOAN lol!!11!) who should be even better next year, and some extremely exciting prospects in the wings. I've no doubt teams around us will improve, and again we'll probably have a real scrap on our hands to finish top 6, but the idea that we've punched above our weight, the arse will fall out of us and we'll plummet down the league has been touted for years now (hello TV's resident football expert David James, who predicted a 16th place finish this season), and we're probably in a better position to counter it now than ever before. Everything's gonna be aaallllllriiiiight.
that's one of the stupidest things i've ever fucking heard
And then dropped, it, obviously.
is better for Liverpool than them needing to win both. Just cos they might get complacent or something. The Crystal Palace result was a better result for Liverpool than winning. Not even joking lmao.
£4.2m all in.
even worse than their shirt that had POOH on the front
They look like a really bad pair of curtains.
We unveiled our kits last night, I like them both. Probably more so as there is no sponsor on them yet.
home kit's a barcelona one from 10 years ago
but i'm not convinced they're too ruthless a side with trophies in sight. If you look at the season they won the title they did their best to throw it away and only won it because United lost their nerve. They've chucked away the FA Cup this season and last, the one they did win in 11/12 they beat a load of shite 1-0 en route. They/we wing trophies rather than clinically scoop them up, and as such Liverpool still have a chance.
But what is your fictional bet for this evening?
Instead of Sparring
Worst of the worst of the tabloid football journos.
His mam's Emily Bishop off Corrie.
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Oooh that Dzeko he never scores, etc etc
No mate but I sure as hell can smell her!
Not going to pretend i've put the house on it but i have backed Villa to the tune of £527 at 18/1, which will give me £10k to spend on a few holidays over the summer. I know people on here think i bullshit about betting, but i do win an absolute fortune reguarly and am pretty sure Villa tonight is a good bet.
Think Demichelis, arguably City's most consistant player over the last couple of months, might prove the one who costs them the title.
and decided they don't want to go and see villa win
don't mind Nasri so much now he's good again
you're safe, who gives a shit? try and score some fucking goals and give your fans something to live for.
does lambert support liverpool?
What do you think?
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED IT?! defending for 0-0's is so fucking pointless. i love it when they go down.
We're cutting them up down the wings but not really aiming our crosses or getting enough guys in the box
coming to Moss Lane on Saturday.
Given Monday's result, I think I'd prefer City to win rather than draw here tonight, but it's still harsh to see the title decided already.
It's been a valiant effort. You should be proud just to have taken it to the last day of the season really...
£100 for every title Liverpool will have won.
wouldn't be vastly improved by the presence of notoriously useless shitcunt Edin Dzeko?
He DOES look like a useless shitcunt. Seems to spend a cumulative 97% of the match falling over, looking bored, or having the ball bounce off him. But then there's the goals. So many goals.
as per yesterdays sub thread?
I'm grateful for what I have, I really am, but I can't help but wish just a little that Chelsea's useless buffoon of an alleged transfer record-breaking striker was THIS shit
think about that for a minute.
Apart from City fans apparently, and they shouldn't
I'm remembering Perry Groves for some reason.
When he's in the country.
he seemed to be doing ok up to till about january.
They looked nailed on to go down a couple of months ago; had a number of tricky fixtures against top sides, have a frankly mediocre squad, etc, but now they may well be (probably will be - sorry Severed) safe.
Doesn't he know Liverpool are chasing City down on goal difference?
it's all got a bit muddy.
in first lesson double PE.
players totally unnecessarily taking their shirts off after scoring an average goal in a game that's already over
Really enjoyed it
think he's got van Persie-like troll potential.
always love strikers who have a *tiny bit* too much swagger for their ability/achievements.
(Do any still post on here?)
We'll lock down the 0-0 at the Etihad, you just concentrate on the 14-0 needed against Newcastle. That's only a goal or two more than they usually lose by anyway.
football is redeemed
shame. would've loved that.
Barca's title, which, y'know, is nice, but it'd be a shame if Atletico end the season with sod all.
shame he can't replicate these skills in the big games
a title decider between atletico and barca on the last day, with atletico only needing a draw, and how close their matches have been this season
couldn't be set up better really
which is in theory a given, but idk
the Villa mates I went with reckon Lambert does it on account of their midfield being so shit there's no point in flooding it, which on tonight's performance I'm inclined to agree with. Even if they'd had Agbonlahor and Benteke tonight their outball is so consistently poor I'm not sure it would've made much of a difference.
Edin Dzeko is still bloody useless.
Crack a little smile. You know, just for us.
Been sucking a lemon called anti-banter too long to manage it. A formative lesson for us all.
i'm sure you lot were happier in those days
Not that any of you really ever pay attention to me talking about Norwich
I'm already dreading Championship bants
given the amount of attention that was given Norwich's final run of games how little was said about Sunderland's. Escaping relegation with a game in hand after being rooted to the bottom on the 16th April is one thing, but they did it by drawing at the Etihad, beating Chelsea and United away and pulverising two of their relegation rivals. Obviously I'm fucked off they've managed it, but that's as absolutely mental as Gus Poyet looks.
WE BEAT THEM!