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Or should I do a drama degree and be even more unemployable
go to clown school. that looks fun.
> Good people
but law would no doubt have interesting parts to it - plus we can then all come to you for free legal advice (when PO is busy ofc).
law and politics wished they'd done straight law. It means you don't get to do all the QLD subjects at the same time as everyone else and you don't get as much choice for non-QLD subjects (employment, company, insurance, socio-legal subjects etc). And in most places you're between two departments which is quite annoying.
or roll on Friday. I think there's about four people who post on dis who have law degrees.
Before about what subject to do? I did my undergrad in law fairly recently. If you have specific questions or anything I'm happy to answer stuff. I didn't find it boring but that's me. What is it that interests you in law?
that was me who made that thread. I applied for law because it seems like a degree that has some sort of job prospects in interesting fields. I like the idea of working for a charity or something that actually does good stuff, but other than that I have no idea.
also you sound realistic about non-law destinations. I've decided to do postgrad sociology and go on to do a phd and hopefully teaching. Getting a training contract/pupillage would have been a nightmare. My sister just got offered her training contract after a year para legaling. Bit drunk on prosecco.
I have a few books I don't need btw. Will PM you a list at some point and if you pay postage I'll give you them for nothing (quite a few 'nutshells' ones which are a godsend for exams)
It's a Good Degree in that it has a lot of transferable skills (research, negotiation, attention to detail, hard work) so unless you're applying to a field where you require a vocational degree it's as good a degree as any to give you a leg up in most professions.
Whether or not you find it boring depends on whether or not you like the subject really. Most things that are statute based (property law, EU law) are very dry, but I found equity and trusts and contract law very interesting because it's 90% precedent. There's a lot of reading involved whichever route you go down, but that's probably true of any degree.
or a lot.
My ex-housemate did about eight hours a week and came out with a half-decent degree and now works in a solicitor's office, but I don't think will go much higher, but others really throw themselves into the whole mooting/debating/networking thing.
If you like the idea of the drama degree, then you might lean towards the latter approach.
I should say that one of the reasons why my housemate didn't really go in for all the extra stuff was that it was very much a closed shop and only really tolerated the 'right' kind of people. Urgh.
I didn't do loads of work and didn't even join the law society/go to a single event but I enjoyed the academic side and got a first.
There will be a bunch of total wankers running about doing everything and networking and being 'brand ambassadors' for city firms. If you don't wanna do that ignore those cunts. There's decent stuff you can be doing. I played the violin in the law school ensemble and voluteered at the law clinic.
You can always do a one year law conversion afterwards (that's what I did).
You'll be more attractive to legal employers that way as you'll be a year older and with a bit more breadth of experience.
The one year CPE law conversion is tough but I quite enjoyed it - just the stuff you need, very intensive and no messing around (I pretty much messed around for three years doing my first degree)
also idk, I really enjoyed studying law but I don't think I would want to have done basically no theory. its what makes the boring technical stuff interesting and stimulating.
also pinky, you'll have the opportunity to do extra-curricular drama stuff if that's what you wanna do. i'm obviously biased but if you get in to do law and politics somewhere that you actually wanna go and that's what you're interested in, it's a lot better jobs wise.
I would imagine he is only going to be doing the core legal topics anyway, so it probably makes no odds.
I just think at 18 you should be doing a subject you are enthused by. If that's law then great, but given that he's asking the question I'm guessing it's not.
Personally I enjoyed messing around for three years doing a Philosophy and Politics degree at an age when I wasn't ready to buckle down to law, and enjoyed my CPE a couple of years later.
Having been in charge of pupilage recruitment years later I tended to find those who had gone straight from school to a law degree a bit on the dull side (sure that doesn't apply to you though!)
I didn't meant the separate theory modules like jurisprudence etc. you get to study things like contract and criminal law in a lot more depth. like I remember in my first year criminal law exam writing one of my essays about the law relating to sadomasochism and LGBT rights.
Can you imagine a world without lawyers?
substantial enough compared to a law degree in making someone just as employable in that field?
If you have a first degree in any subject you can do a one year post-graduate course called the CPE which comprises all the core legal topics. That qualifies you to move on to legal professional training just as if you had a full law degree. In my experience (which is at the criminal bar) people with a different first degree and the CPE are if anything more employable than those with just a law degree. It may be different in other areas of the law (but I don't think so).
If you are asking about a non-CPE Masters or a Masters following a first degree in law I could comment on its value but I would imagine it wouldn't have that much value in the profession (except maybe in a very specialist area)
Almost of all them hated it and went on to do something else but studied it all the same.
I can't think of anything worse than working law. Think I'd rather be a bin man.
I found large chunks of it inpenetrable and boring and other parts fascinating.
My undergrad degree was taught from a philosophical angle, which really helped I think, rather than the more sciencey approach adopted by most law schools.
Being a lawyer can be absolutely amazing and there are so many different disciplines, you simply can't compare, e.g. my friend who is a court of session commercial advocate, with my dad who is a criminal advocatre, my mate who is a constructoin laweyer and helps with massive infrastructure projects, and my own career (wehihc has seen me run and advise various football clubs, work for entrepreneurs and get involved in helping businesses across a massive range of secotrs. I am currently reshaping the way housing associations will operate over the next 50 years which is a pretty fucking groundbreaking thing to be doing.) Thta said, there are many days I would rather eat my own knewwsa than gong into the office- the , but most of all the dead time you will sometimes find you have on your hands will suck the joy out of your soul unless you have a very robust sense of humour.
Fortinately I have, and I have also realised that compared to many other careers, at least thins one offers me the cahnce to do pertty much anything I want to, it affords me a very pleasant lifestyle and it also gives me enhanced powers of non-police arrest under the common law, which I can abuse on nights out. WAHHOO.
How are you anyway buddy? It's been too long!
RFC financial review kept me up half the night last night. ERK. Maybe getting published at lunchimte. expect no surprises.
if you're free/interested? i cannie make it
i fully expect "we are in rude financial health, assuming you all buy 30,000 season tickets"?
but 'we are in rude financial health, assuming you all buy 30'000 season tickets at inflated prices'
particularly grim about this statement, can't help but feel he's aiming squarely at the lowest common denominator with that sort of patter - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27142340
since all this shite kicked off they've only been aiming at the lowest common denominator, it's depressing
qCan I get back to you in the next hour or two?
I would LOVE to go tomorrow but my weekend plans are in a bit of a state of flux at the mo- can I let you know in the next couple of hours if it's a go-er?
but DiS ate a chunk of it.
I would rather eat my own knees than going into the office- the absolute bullshit, the posturing, the politics, but most of all the dead time you will sometimes find you have on your hands will suck the joy out of your soul unless you have a very robust sense of humour.
If the fuckers round where I work are anything to go by.
But I doubt they teach being vapid mercenary fuck-knuckles in university so it's probably fine.
I fucking hate it, I didn't mean any of what I said (apart fomr the ££££MAKING IT RAIN£££££ part). Fuck doing law. If you work a lawyer week 9(ypically 60/70 hours a week) on a checkout you'd probably earn about the same and have more fun. AND NO STUDE|NET DEBT.
Go to drama school for fucksake OP. That's what i'm doing now.
...and as i got to the bottom line i thought to myself 'fuck me gently, i should have become a lawyer'