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Do you have insecurities about your height and difficulties in attracting members of the opposite sex?
But sean, stop worrying about this stuff.
Just ^this here.
We don't need your tell-my-wife-hello neutrality. Get your own damn post to ^this.
If you need to ask, you don't got it.
Meanwhile, the rest of us wee pricks are left to perve around on the net and look at Reese Witherspoon on Google images.
I have to duck on certain stairwells :(
No, not really (am I allowed to say that?)
member of the opposite sex here
I'd ignore her.
Is the winky face a symbol of interest?
I hate having Aspergers
might be more at home there
I was in the womb.
I've never seen you win a header
are more drawn to a man's height than rather than the prettiness of his face.
And less societal pressure to be the tallest in their relationships.
but i'm short so i suppose i would say that
I think we make a good couple.
Thought you were about 8'
So you probably look taller.
For some reason the opposite is true of meths.
It's not a height thing, its a personality thing. Unless you're considered super hot or something, but even then, being boring, under-confident, or worse, creepy/rapey is the turn off, not height.
don't say 'rapey'.
I'm 5'9" (it shits me to no end – everyone else in my immediate family is over 6'0"). I used to think about it every time I walked past someone in the street, true, and compare myself. true. having a majority of friends over 6'1" doesn't help, but they're all inept with girls despite not being bad looking.
chicks'll go for anything. as long as you're a bit taller they don't care.
It's just when most girls wear high heels in nightclubs, I feel like a little turd standing next to them. Not that I've ever had a girlfriend or had sex or anything...
because i am a social justice warrior
*sprays Africa Lynx liberally*
you can't really afford to be fussy when you're 6'5" though can you
i'm 5'8 so not terribly tall but if a girl doesn't want to go out with me because i'm a few inches short of 6 foot she's probably not the right one is she.
also, zac efron, joaquin phoenix and aaron paul are all 5'8 too, so we're in good company. (not gonna mention hitler also being 5'8 though)
and rolling news was trying to kill time by interviewing "pop music expert" Paul Gambaccini. Interviewing in the sense of letting him fill time by rambling on about whatever the hell he wanted.
The best bit being... "I met Jackson a few times and the thing that surprised me was his physical size. He was much, much taller than you expected him to be. Much bigger than you would have thought from his voice. In fact, he was the same height as Dermot O'Leary."
Ah yes, Dermot O'Leary, that universal measure of tallness.
owing to the fact that anyone who regularly appears on X Factor (i.e. presenters and judges) have to be as short as or shorter than Simon Cowell.
I'd like all people, objects and land masses to be measured in Dermots.
joaquin phoenix looks well taller than 5'8 in films
doesn't look 5'8 in this http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/her-joaquin-phoenix-15.jpg
but if imdb says so it must be true
But I don't categorically think of them as babe magnets, despite how physically attractive I personally find them (from a heterosexual male's perspective).
Unless you were a proper shortarse I don't see why anyone would be bothered by it.
Although that could probably be said about a lot of things that people on here get their knickers in a twist about.
never had any problems with either my height or getting a sexual partner. the thing that does breed insecurity is that my wife's best friend is 6'3'' and her husband is 6'5''. we feel like right short arses around them. and their cops.
there's a thread in there. i'll post it once my blistering one about windfarms is on the ropes.
Must be tough being that tall.
I don't think it's a big deal being short, if it bothers you that much move to southern Europe or something and you'll feel like a giant. There's quite a bit of variation in height within the UK as well, places like Glasgow/Western Scotland and Southern Wales are full of short people.
Used to have a complex about it.
I'm not that good looking either, but I've done okay with the ladies over the years.
I reckon it helps in a club/random house party situation though where height, or lack of it, might mean you're over-looked(literally!!!!!!1)
and my girl is hot as hell - so no.
It just doesn't happen that often. but they tend to not care about me being that height either. just remember Alex Turner is barely taller than Leighton Baines (170cm) and wears lifts and heeled shoes, despite being in Arctic Monkeys and doing nothing but coke, talking shit, making money, and sleeping with models.
I still maintain that being fine in other respects and being decent looking means more than height. for a majority of cases. I know some good looking mates who are 6'1" – aka the perfect height – and they struggle completely.
my girlfriend's mate because she kept on about how she couldn't go out with this otherwise great-sounding lad (I'd never met him) because he was short.
My view is this. If the turn-off is the result of the other person's choices (physique/figure (to a degree), hairstyle, dress-sense, personality), it is OK to openly state your preference.
If it's something that can't be helped, you should really keep your preferences to yourself for the risk of offending someone. You'd be a dick to say "Oh, I'd never sleep with with someone who's cross-eyed/freckly/needs glasses/has a limp/has a birthmark on their face."
Height is arbitrary as any of these things ^.
Yes, it's OK to have preferences (I've got some right weird ones), but I don't think it's cool to lump a person's height in with other things, such as their dress-sense, as arbitrary factors. People can't help their height.
say shit like this. They really ought to keep it to themselves.
I blame this sudden rekindled boyband culture. All looks no talent. Large swathes of the female population now seem to think that their boyfriend needs to be better than perfect looking - and that's all that matters. Such girls also seem to think that it's perfectly natural and even comical for less attractive people to feel inferior. It's not much different to racism in my opinion. You can't help who you fancy but Jesus, I wish people would keep things to themselves, or at least members of their own sex/orientation.
There's a valid reason to detest the likes of Justin Bieber and One Direction and please believe me, I'm not jealous of them. I just think it's a nod to the Nazi Germany putting the aryans before anyone else.
to realise the damage that they're doing. If you have millions of girls after you, don't form a fucking boyband. Do something useful with that fame and attention...
I love this assumptive bullshit. You realise that society spends a lot of time telling women their ideal man is taller than they are as well as (for that matter) older than them.
This is really what causes a women to feel she can't go out with a shorter or a younger man. It's no use saying people just need to get over this: some people find it easy to buck that sort of thing but often they are supported by having friends and family who buck such ideas.
Take the woman the_bread_museum mentions. Maybe her mum and/or dad make a big deal about short guys with girls. And maybe her friends make a big deal out of it, and that means it's really hard to just say "Fuck it". Like I say, not everyone can draw on the courage to just be who they want regardless of peer expectations.
I'm not saying it's right to discriminate like that but actually my experience of women who've said this is that they will end up going out with whoever makes them happy, regardless of these factors. So maybe fundamentally the guy just didn't appeal and she was scared that she didn't know why and fell back on that excuse, which is bad but relationship bullshit fucks you up.
how important it is for your looks to fit the right criteria, in order to be successful in that department. You're right in saying that society tells women what their boyfriends should be like, but I feel that JB and 1D have made things much, much worse.
Of course, I should've said that this applies heavily to many women who are younger than 21 and/or have below average IQs. They go on and on about boys/men they like the look of as though their appearance is some sort of earned privilege which they deserve a lot of respect for - THAT's what pisses me off.
Anyway, welcome to the world women have lived with for decades if you want to go down that route. And it's bollocks in any case because there have always been male pinups.
Any issues you're having getting a girlfriend are entirely your own problem and are likely caused by the fact that you appear to be a fucking major dickstain, judging by your women-hating comments about 'below average IQs'. Maybe grow up, get your shit together and stop being a misogynist fucktard and you might actually find you can respect a woman enough to engage with her and get somewhere?
But I didn't realise it came across like that (and I don't think it does to be honest). I should've said 'a portion of women', but I'll admit that one of the problems with my writing style is that I assume the reader has enough intelligence to release that I'm not actually being '-ist' towards a group of people (although I apologise if that's how it sounds). I don't see why I should have to spell everything out and say "'idiots' who happen to be women" over and over again on a site where people are able to spew controversy anyway.
And thanks, that's actually some good advice.
But just to reiterate for those of you who are a little bit too PC, I am not a misogynist. In fact, I generally prefer the company of girls to boys, so if anything I'm a misandrist (if that really means I must be accused of being so).
"I assume the reader has enough intelligence to release that I'm not actually being '-ist' towards a group of people (although I apologise if that's how it sounds). " :D
Basically your entire posting on this thread has been to blame women for the situation you are implying you're in (not sure I saw you specifically stating what these insecurities really represent).
I don't know what 'idiots who happen to be women' has to do with it either. Do you not have any requirements for a relationship, then? Because you're posting like you would go out with absolutely ANY woman and I find that hard to believe.
It's just classic 'Fedora man' territory to have decided that women are somehow the issue. How do you even know and care what these women you don't like expect in a man unless they're also the women you are trying to attract. And since they are the women you are trying to attract it seems odd that you don't like them, no? If you're going to go all zahidf on us then knock yourself out, though.
for the damage THEY'VE inadvertently done. Not the girls.
they're about to be an asshole.
Beiber lies about even being 5'8" – he wears massive boots and apparently stands at about 169-170cm. He's a little prick.
Most of the guys in One Direction are relatively short too. I think the tallest is Harry who's about 5'10". The rest are a good inch or two, maybe even three, shorter.
Not to mention the fact that the DIS demographic, and thus the woman's demographic, would not reflect naive worship and fandom of boybands. They're probably, like, normal 18-30 year old women. They might be flawed but that's not due to boyband culture at all.
I would say girls have always liked height but they've also always liked nice faces, a good look, and someone who can make them enjoy life. Just like blokes are essentially the same. And like blokes, who have a disposition for blondes or round faces, girls are entitled to have little things they subconsciously or consciously prefer – Ned Kelly beards, long hair, an ego like Jared Leto, filled out guys, dweebs, and even lanky guys.
the half is very important.
Never really been an issue. Would gladly "go" with someone taller. But they'd have to be prepared to stroke my hair and tell me everything is going to be alright while I weep uncontrollably afterwards.
but that's not out of me concsiously avoiding taller women. i think you should talk to prince about the barrier that his height has been throughout his sexual career
also can I point out that you've written 5 inches 10 not 5 feet 10 thanks
Sorry to ask, it's just that schools don't teach us this anymore...
I would say it's far more about how you make the other person /feel/ than how you look.
It's just one of those things though innit, nothing I can do about it. Just luck of the draw.
it's never been an issue. My girlfriend is actually a couple of inches taller. We actually have a good laugh about it though I bet she has a little cry every time she sees a photo of Sophie Dahl and Jamie Callum.
tons of fun.
But it will only matter to someone else if it matters to you.
If you are fine with it and don't see it being a limiting factor, the world will generally fall in line with your view.
If it bothers you, however, that will show in all sorts of subtle ways , and it will manifest in the way people react to you.
HEAL THYSELF PUNK.
“There is only one real misfortune: to forfeit one's own good opinion of oneself. Lose your complacency, once betray your own self-contempt and the world will unhesitatingly endorse it.”
and I'm 5"8 or 5"9, so I'm not a runt.
It's just that literally EVERYWHERE I go, whenever I see a girl who I like the look of, she's almost always coupled with some mature-looking bloke who's at least 6"2...
wish they were a baller?
you better pipe up when someone starts a circle jerk thread!
and was willing to reach things for me and not make me stand on the death chair
That's probably a saying.
he was too old to be a rock star and how he's going to be bigger than Morrisey or something.
We're trip trapping across his bridge
Unless they're dwarfs or something. Those guys are alright
If you're really short, women will flock you as a sympathy vote or for politically correct obligations. The midget in my year group at school was the biggest bully and the most successful babe magnet.
Taller: William Hague - thought he'd be a little short arse, but he's not. Very sweaty though.
Tony Blair: also much taller than I thought, and the colour of old teak. Strong handshake too.
Shorter: Katherine Jenkins- tiny. Could fit her in your pocket.
richard from pointless
Technically, less than a cm shorter - been measured in hospital a few times.
I'm also skinny and not very broad. Wear 36" chest jackets and 15" shirt collars and that. Some shops I just can't go in as the clothes are too big (which if fucking ridiculous as no-one would look at me and think "wow", he's tiny).
My Dad is massive, has huge oak tree arms (not literally) and was a builder. I'm a skinny, floppy haired prick.
So do I get insecure about it? Yes, lots. More than I'd like to admit. If other people don't then good for them. I'm pretty confident, and I do like myself and my looks and my body in general, but if I could I'm be 6'5" and some kinda man giant.
But it's all about making the best of what you've got. The truth is how you do in life is more about your mindset and confidence than anything else x 1000000000.
when I'm around taller people I feel dumpy and inelegant and when I'm around smaller people I feel like a goofy ogre.
*throws back out bending down so far*
You're taking out a fair percentage of guys and a lot of tall blokes don't necessarily want a girl that big. not to mention how self-conscious they feel (an exes friend would tell us her self-conscious 6-foot tales).
I kind of like shorter girls. it's cute.
Do gay people not have any insecurities?
You don't expect me to actually READ the threads do you?
Till one day I met a disser lady about 6' 2" who was stunningly beautiful who just used to cast her eyes around looking for anyone guy who was over 6' 3". There was me going 'Hey, I'm down here!'.
I know that a lot of women would automatically rule out dating a guy shorter than them so I can totally see why some shorter men would feel sad to be ruled out so quickly on something they have no control over.
I know exactly who you're talking about
If we're talking about the night of the flooding downstairs dancehall in Farringdon?
*clearly* the only reason any woman could resist ho_fo is that she literally could not see him.
And I noticed her behaving that way on other occasions with under 6foot guys more attractive and charming than even I.
I don't want anything I say to be supposed to apply about someone other people might know but I can understand why a very tall woman who was self conscious of the fact (despite being very beautiful) might not want to be with someone shorter who reminded her of her height or why she might want to be with someone taller who made her feel more feminine.
But yeah, a messy night that one.
Any man that's ever looked cool is under 6 foot
You can variate a lot with your clothes; go slightly looser and it won't look disproportionate. That's why most models are 6'0" – they look the best in clothes. But at 6'4" you can just look a gangly dick. So the 5'8"-6'0" range is probably a good place to be if you think about your clothes a bit.
But the most important thing is being able to wear jeans. If you look shit in jeans you have absolutely no luck in life at all. Not only will you look stumpy or just weird, you'll also feel exceptionally self-conscious in winter and thus never get anywhere. True.
I like men that are taller than me. But then I'm 5'7 so I'm not tall. I feel more secure with a taller guy. But I'd rather someone shorter and nicer than a tall wanker.
It's just what you like.
Nelson was much shorter, apparently.
This is all according to QI, who I think spout shit.
I'm a short bloke and yes, yes it does bother me, all the time. Good thread.
The Western average is like 175cm or something, so if you're below that...
So I struggle to keep a straight face when 5' 10" giants are talking about feeling short.
i'm 5"10 and feel pretty short when standing next to most my friends. it doesn't really bother me. except at a ball one time getting a photo and i looked ridiculously small next to my partner. she was really tall though tbf. i feel like it's only a problem if you make it a problem. also, saying "oh yeah i don't get a lot of girls because of how short i am" is kind of implying that all girls are a bit shallow, no? feel like we're not giving them enough credit there. choice of partner isn't that binary.