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one of their Dead Pony Club beers before. What's that one like, anyone?
to the point where it's so bitter you can't actually drink much of it.
Think 5am Saint is their only beer I can really get on with, though Punk is alright.
Punk IPA and 5am Saint are two of my favourite beers in the world. If they've made one I can actually drink 8 pints of then all the better.
It seems a bit expensive for something that you might knock back like squash, but it tastes nice.
Like lots of overly bitter things (olives, coffee), it's obviously an acquired taste.
First time i didn't really get it, but then it got better.
thats no better than the majority of IPA's sold as ale as opposed to craft beer but they charge £6 for it as opposed to £2.99
'The sick, twisted legislation brought about in Russia that prevents people from living their true lives is something we didn't want to just sit back and not have an opinion on.'
Dread to think where we'd be.
I keep expressing this opinion and not being able to actually back it up, it's getting a bit embarrassing.
They co-opt radical imagery for capitalist purposes
Their beer ain't that good
They're at the forefront of an embarrassing trend that people will look back on in the same way they do at 80s wine bars
not sure what that actually entailed though.
i enjoy their beers, mind.
but I think they're the beer equivalent of Foxtons.
Forcing a bubble, pricing out other estate agents who were just getting on with it beforehand.
Probably a bad analogy.
they're just exploiting the trend and doing it more successfully than msot
not least because BrewDog started in Scotland.
And notwithstanding the fact neither phenomenon which you describe is observably happening...
but we are not taking responsibility for Brewdog. They're yours. Get your house in order.
I don't think we have them in Scotland.
Let's just agree Scotland is to blame for Brewdog and then immediately end the discussion because I've left the iron on.
to drive smaller competitors out of business. Like when Gregg's (citation needed) or whoever open up unprofitable shops just to eat into the profit margins of smaller companies and drive them out of business.
(Can't remember who was actually accused of doing this, probably wasn't Gregg's though)
cf No Logo
I was just thinking High Street Monolith Du Jour.
I hate the brand but I love the beers.
Be interesting to see what all of our pubs will turn into in a post-Craft Beer world. Hipcat Cognac joints?
unfortunately it's in south london. gtfo
what better time than now?
it's one of those things idiots like to "belong" to, and as well as that, profess that they belong to it all the time.
They've started distributing now and have got an exclusivity deal with Mikkeller which is shit as it means prices have increased and places that used to stock Mikkeller now don't because they can't afford to or don't want to deal with Brewdog.
There are literally 100's of other beers to choose from.
the B@1 of breweries, then
fuckinnn....like Brewju Banter'n!!!
i don't know which principle, but i stick to my guns. (unless there's no other beer available, but that's never happened)
I like the taste of their beers. The food in their pubs is decent. Their staff seem to know stuff about beer. That's about the sum of it for me. Fair enough if you don't share those opinions, but isn't that just a personal opinion sort of thing?
There's plenty of companies whose products I don't like, but I just don't give them my money. Can't quite summon enough energy to "hate" them.
Can't find any evidence of them being sexist. All I can see is they once had a beer called Trashy Blonde. *shrugs*
Granted, their whole 'punk' thing gets on my nerves, but new companies have got to have some sort of a niche and theirs seems to have worked for them. It might be disingenuous and embarrassing, but no more so than how most companies now focus their marketing on social media etc.
They're at the forefront of a new trend - is that their fault? And what is that trend? And why is it so bad/embarrassing?
they'll distance themselves from being seen as beardy ale wankers, the fools. A bit like how hipsters are the only ones who ever complain about hipsters.
What you said is true. The beer is good, the company is a bit wanky and embarrassing. That about sums it up. All else is recreational outrage, as per.
(got a bit of stubble), don't mind drinking shit beer and I don't wank very often.
went to spoons and got a carlsberg instead
He was a nice bloke. Had loads of their beer on him. Didn't offer to share.
Would probably have declined. It's just well designed nonsense.
They also are a bit try hard - like Innocent Smoothies.
The beers aren't that amazing.
not like its a strawberry cider or something like that, it still tastes like beer
And it gets in the way of some of the beers being really good. And that the service in their bars is exceptional.
But the marketing is just tedious.
Our core beliefs are freedom of expression, freedom of speech and a dogged (no pun intended) passion for doing what we love
I don't get what the pun is? Putin's a dog? are they comparing gay people to dogs?
was focusing so hard on the Putin aspect I completely forgot about the company's name
and get this thread deleted as soon as possible
I had a load of ales they'd brewed themselves and it was like £3.60 a pint. All the staff were falling over themselves to recommend stuff
On Tuesday after QPR Bolton, I was forced to go to their new Shepherd's Bush bar. It was like drinking in an All Saints Shop, whilst the staff gave you proper attitude, and everything was a fiver a pint while there were signs everywhere informing me of how punk they are.
I really, really hate them
in the Cock Tavern. Great gaff.
Show the whole craft beer and ale thing is only expensive if you make it so
That pub in Leyton which brews Brodies stuff. About £2.50 a pint in there ain't it?
Was over £4 when I bought a pint of it in another East End pub recently. Not sure why.
is Brodies stocked in the Coffee House in Soho? If so they do some great beers, a wee bit on the pricey side, good to know it's elsewhere and much cheaper
Think it starts from about £3.60 in Soho but I'm happy to pay that premium because it's in the centre of town and the Coffee House is the fucking SHIT.
try and pop in when in the area, I think I remember it being pricey as I had some strong % chocolate chili stout, lovely though.
Beer Rebellion is another great example of "craft" beer done well. It's run by Late Knights and they swap their casks with other breweries so though they have 2-3 of their own beers on, they have about 5 others too all about about £3.50 a go. Also shout out to my favourite, the Holborn Whippet.
So, so beardy though. Which is a problem for me because I'd really like a beard and lack the necessary hormones, rather than any stupid snobbery shit.
But once all the town hall workers go home it's usually quite pleasant.
Plus, I am become beard
I quite like the Craft Beer Co's. Beers range from the ludicrous to the reasonable in pricing and it's quite easy to work out the pricing as well. Plus staff are nice and helpful. Sometimes.
Think it was last called the Vendel or something like that, changed hands about 40 times in the last 5 years so could never keep up with it. Opened up a few days before I left Shepherd's Bush FOREVER.
Except I think they bought the property behind because it's a lot bigger inside
It says that 50% of the profits raised through the Putin beer will go directly to charities that represent oppressed minorities around the world which is nice. I think it's a bit cynical to think that they're introduced this beer purely to benefit financially from the situation in Russia.
Don't really get the hostility towards Brewdog on here generally. Their marketing is obviously a bit ostentatious and shit. But most of their beers are really nice and their bars are brilliant. I don't really understand the 'bullying' label they've got as well. Their website, along with their bars, sell loads of beers from other breweries. As well as this, I think they let the Mikkeller guy use their tanks or whatever when he was up in Scotland. Brewdog aren't brilliant but I don't think there is much to get worked up about.
but they really are a bit like the skrillex of beer.
People were just getting on with beer which came from a good place and people were slowly getting interested in it and all that, people making it had integrity and wanted people to enjoy rather than fetishize what they produced, then skrillex comes along and all these bros are bouncing up and down being like 'dude have you heard of dubstep? don't harsh my buzz, you just don't know how to have fun'
Also, if they didn't want to profit from the situation in russia they would donate 100% of the profits to an appropriate charity in consultation with people who know what they are talking about.
are brew dog threads, in which I say the exact same thing each time. I MUST come across like a boring cunt.
you also do a good job of sounding like a bit of a stain on the whisky threads too.
Enjoy your non-chill filtered aberlour 25 year old at Reading
I just carry on enjoying and `getting on` with beer, as I have since I was 17 years old, largely unmoved by BrewDog's corporate antics. Aside from the occasional haughty whinge into the vacuum of cyberspace.
You have a lot of rancour towards a company who are very easily avoided. Some people like them, too. Get over it.
enjoy the craft beer revolution at Reading
their beer is average at best.
Boring repetition of the same uncomfortable theme.
Newcastle's is/was good but mainly just because of a couple of members of staff there that put on gigs and decent DJs. Usually the music is awful and the staff don't give a shit.
The beer tends to be pretty awful for hangovers too, doesn't it?
is its location for if your off to Bridgewater Hall or Albert Hall.
Is I hate being told how punk a company that take their brand and marketing more seriously than many major corporates do, and their PR campaigns (such as above - their effectively trying to use human rights abuses in Russia to sell beer) are usually pretty objectionable. Remember when they lost some award and claimed it was only because the winners sponsored the event and were trying to get people on twitter to bombard the award with abuse. Pitiful.
Also I compare it with my fave, London Fields. I went to their brewery and they were all so nice and friendly. And didn't need to tell me how punk they were. And at one point their master brewer got trapped in the fridge and we opened the door for him and he appeared from the mist with a jug of beer in either hand and a woman on each arm
Real mirrors facing mirrors shit. Being so obnoxiously present is the punk thing that they do.
Think I'm off to the London Fields tour in a few weeks time, looking forward to it.
they had some sort of beer festival on. A few of their beers were ok, one was really really bad. Everyone was wearing those sort of straw trillbys when they were really too old and all the kids they had looked dead bored i.e didn't seem that punk
started selling their ale at almost half the price it costs in their own bar. How can that even be possible?
they do have a rep for it
That shouldn't surprise you, Niki.
Why is it £4/pint right next to where it's brewed vs £1.99 in a Spoons 5-6 miles away?
I assume they're higher for a brewery bar than they are for any Spoons site.
That and people in brewery bars will pay it. Anchoring and all that shit.
They coin it on the food
+ Consistently high customer numbers = improved net
Benefits of being the most popular pub chain in the country. Not for long though if BrewDog's expansion continues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hence cheapness, hence Spoons being a fucking hole.
how on fucking god's green earth does Camden beer cost so much? Sometimes the pub is within spitting distance of the brewery and costs near five quid. You could fucking roll the barrel the distance to save on distribution.
so they could afford to sue anyone who used the word 'Camden' in their product's name.
and they had loads of British craft beers at like, 1/3 of the price they are here. Can someone explain to me why?
don't worry, you wouldn't understand.
they're called Ales
Not going to say what specifically. Just know that I'm silently judging you all, and many of you have been found wanting.
which is of no consequence at all..
Look what they've done to us
They're called Brewers Resistance (Brouwers Verzet) and their beer was AMAZING. They were so friendly as well.
THAT'S ALL I GOTS
We start a thread about nonce beer and there's dozens of replies, recommendations and spats over the next few hours.
He starts one and we all ignore him.
Poor sean :(
that's a good thing though, isn't it? i don't remember it first hand but i understand that the timeline was roughly
wine in pubs and restaurants is horrible -> wine bars happen -> nobody cares about wine bars anymore but there's good wine everywhere now
so maybe this all just means that there'll be better beer in bog standard pubs in the near future, when everyone has stopped using the term "craft beer".
"the skrillex of beer" is too good though, i'm using that.
120 replies guys? You lot are mental.
Anyway, I've been pretty critical of some of our marketing campaigns in the past (as much as I can be given, y'know, I work for them), but I quite like this campaign. Easy to be cynical, but 50% of profits to anti-discriminatory charities, and a bunch of publicity (120 replies!) about the issues regarding discrimination in Russia can't be all that bad a thing. Also, y'know, it's a bit of fun, eh? Not all beer drinking need be beardy-strokey-serious, though I'm perhaps often guilty of that more than most...
I think it's clear BrewDog have made a lot of enemies over the time we've been going, but our beers are generally (not exclusively) really tasty (though not to everyone's taste, and I appreciate the arguments about pricing: handy and TOTALLY PUNK!!!1 infographic/blog to explain the company line here: http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article/october-2013-price-increase-in-brewdog-bars) and our bars employ a lot of people who are incredibly passionate about beer, whether that's something from Seattle that's 'a hopfucker of a IPA with a IBU that'll rip your tits straight off your face' (quote only semi made-up) or a really tasty CAMRA-approved session blonde ale from a hand-pump that requires you to wear a pair of sandals to buy.
Also, regarding sexism: as I brought up in the last bi-monthly BrewDog outrage thread, I honestly don't know where that comes from aside from a vague point about a largely discontinued beer from the early days of the brewery called Trashy Blonde. If anyone could enlighten me more then I'd be happy to debate/concede this point.
tl;dr... good beer is good, but people have different palates and preferences, and bitching and whining about a PR campaign by BrewDog is only fueling said PR campaign, as if it even matters in any way.