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Seems like no breaded items were stolen. Very odd as it was from an Iceland store.
though I can't conceive of a man THAT poor.
maybe a london-based freelance web designer.
now I'm all for highlighting food waste and IMO criminal levels of it in our food industry, but I doubt a freelance web designer in London is struggling to make ends meet to the point he has to skip for food.
but ok you win
commonly a euphemism? Kinda like how waiters/waitresses are (unemployed) 'actors'.
It means "wanker".
Laid low by "no, u are" again
but your two contributions to the thread have both helpfully pointed out how low your opinion of these people are.
Good distraction tactics.
hash tag just sayin
This is worse than my Tough Mudder condemnation, Wza.
Why wasn't it on the shelves and being sold for £33?
Iceland had deemed their value to be £0.
if it isn't in an enclosed area?
The law is an ass.
1)this case is a travesty, completely ridiculous etc etc
2) bet those three are incredibly punchable human beings eh
Yeah as much as I'm against the idea of prosecuting them, I certainly wouldn't want to be caught in a conversation with one of them.
They did force entry and intended to steal a trolley sooooooo
This is what I found mental. Returned to Iceland! Who then chucked it straight back away again!
`It will also focus attention on a group of people taking radical steps to feed themselves as they struggle with the rising cost of living in London`
They all live in a squat, the article says. So they've removed themselves from the harshest cost of living variable London has. Should be eating at Gaucho's every night rather than raiding the bins at Iceland.
is how his vocation means that he can't work anywhere except london
but I wonder if the lizard people in control have specifically chosen some people difficult to relate to as a test case. It's hardly a poor family forced out by a combination of zero hours contracts and the bedroom tax, of which I imagine there are many in Kentish Town.
I always wonder where those affected by these sorts of things go. Although what you say probably holds water - people who work in newspapers (mostly middle class and with nepotistic leg ups) are the sorts of folk who populate traditionally poorer areas now. They're not going to be the turkeys who analyse why they've voted for Christmas after all...
in a horrible mood this morning.
as I said upthread the prosecution is ridiculous and terrible.
*runs back into room*
BUT LOOK AT THAT FACIAL HAIR YE GODS
People seem to think its weird that he's being charged under a law from the 19th century. It's a pretty archaic statute but it still gets used when they can't prove burglary/attempt. Agree they shouldn't be charged with anyone though obviously. I guess the rationale is that theres 'significant public interest' in protecting the market, which is what the law is for. Heehee #karlmarx
because I suspect there isn't a recognised market in legally unsaleable food.
Obviously supermarkets and the police recognize that a not insignificant amount of people go skipping and find other ways of not paying for food. It means they don't have to get their food from a market or spend any money on food. If retailers were really indifferent about what happens to their food once it gets past its shelf-life then they'd give it away for free or next to nothing without bothering to chuck it into bins. But they don't cause the effect would be fewer people choosing to pay full price for the same food they know will be free by closing time. Which would affect the opportunity for profit/competition. The police have charged these guys for the same reason that businesses are allowed to chuck away surplus food/commodities even when there is scarcity of food/commodities. Protecting the markets is more important.
to do just this.
Marks and Spencers are pretty good at food waste. used to get all my food there after work with a 90% discount. so so good.
they are considering that its in the public interest to maintain the market. If too many people converted their lawns and flowerbeds and drives to food production, then there would no doubt be action from the authorities.
It is not just about the market though, it is also about ensuring people know their place and dont start making their own decisions on what is right and what is wrong and what is justifiable although it could technically break some slight irrelevant laws that were introduced to prevent real wrong
However I don't believe (or won't without some facts) that the number of people who go skipping is "not insignificant". My first guess would be that it is, and that the main nuisance for the supermarkets relates to their real or imagined concerns about the security of their premises. That and public image of course. No business likes the idea of a load of people scavenging in their bins in broad daylight (or not so broad nightlight).
As that nuts Iceland geezer has demonstrated, the potential for a bit of press coverage coming over as the supermarket of the people far outweighs any negative market effects that people getting binned food for free might have.
The CPS weren't protecting the market, they were setting out a test case, because they though a few more of these might come up in future. And they probably will.
fuck, why dont we round up all the cats and foxes that do that too?
Sorry but another weird thing you say is 'Setting out a test case'?
But this is not a new thing.....we were regularly doing it in the 80s.
thing is the gov probably doesnt want the health implications of loads of people scavanging more dubious food, especially when they get more desperate....or they could try to claim that....but that would be a false claim of compassion, because obviously they accept squeezing some people till its injurous.....perhaps its the public perception and bad publicity they dont want.......but they aint gonna have much say....people are going to be more eating more disgusting stuff more and more desperately....because that alternative is preferable to THEM than others
Their PR department consists of an elderly gentleman with a MacBook sat in a windowless room somewhere in Wales. You couldn't help but feel for him when the horse meat story broke.
Coz it's known to give a brother brain damage
B. I quite like how the 3 defendants are being represented by a law firm called Binmans
Ronnie Barker built a whole career around it
They don't want swarms of people outside every night waiting for their bins to be filled. It was in a private area wasn't it? They would be better off just sticking up some better fences than all this hassle though.
supermarkets and business as a whole probably care. luckily they don't need to explain why though cause the police are so good at caring on their behalf.
Their comments so far suggest that they are fine with it
sitting on the fence while they gauge public opinion
when I was a youngster working at an pretty small M&S store they would throw out about £25k of food a week! less a couple of hundred for the food I was trousering on the way out. Used to fill a bin bag and after my night shift and take home. Lived like a big fat King.
There was no need to refill the apertif cabinet for a few Christmases after I can tell you that.
if they made it too easy to get the end-of-day-food
all of those *psychopaths* who linger around the reduced section and fight each other viciously for anything new, but are currently too demure to scrabble through bins.
they'd all be hanging out the back of every supermarket at ten every night
it'd be a bloodbath
resident evil made real
With bells on.
after iceland's comments, by the CPS
and often the food was divied up communally, or else a massive cook up with food being shared
and its nice to cook food for others. :)
Food in shops is designed for human stomachs, not bins.
Shops and markets and productions systems are the method that has grown to fulfill the need to put food into lots of peoples stomachs, its the method to achieve the goal, NOT the goal.
Along the way, humans accept division of labour and economy of scale to achieve this and to provide diversity in return for having to get shiny things to exchange for the food.......they TOLERATE this because it is often mostly reasonable, but often with some unreasonable top ups (to the likes of massively successful manipulative operations (tesco being the favourate bugbear to quote)
During 'hard times' in Stalinist russia at some points, people tried tp suplement what they had to eat by, for example, growing beans in window boxes......the authorities sometimes sent burly boys round to destroy such examples of self support (even though the people were starving)
I do not believe in 'Evil' as such, but such actions come close to it, because they are not based on human reason but on insitutional reason (or unreason). When institutions start making such decisions, they are well off the track of human morality.....they have managed to abstract something else completely different, into justifying something that is entirely inappropriate.
Jesus is very very unhappy with this sort of thing
Except for the dog food, which is designed for dogs.
if they'd stolen some Skips.
They said it was because the shop could be sued if someone took it from a bin and became ill from it (weak excuse, but plausible). Got so popular around Nottingham all the bins got padlocked or put in locked areas.
ah well there's always tomorrow.
onward and upward!
fuck that shit man. I DEMAND my outrage.