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daniel bryan's royal rumble omission made bbc news

matthewslaughter [Edit] [Delete] 56 replies 10:00, 28 January '14

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25911039

which is pretty unusual...was 4th read story on the website for a while there yesterday too.

(isn't newsbeat aimed at kids? that makes no sense...)

wrestling people on here reckon this really is "the worst mistake wwe have made in 13 years"?

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  • (isn't newsbeat aimed at kids? that makes no sense...) ...wrestling people

    umm...

    Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 10:05 | X
    Epimer this'd this
    • anyway

      no, not if they're saving him for match vs. Taker at Mania

      Severed799 @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 10:06 | X
      • i can't see a taker/bryan match at mania

        cos surely logic would dictate bryan should win his mania match? i'd be happy if he was the guy to break the streak but what are the chances of that...
        (newsbeat thing was a joke, wrestling people just a self-consciously awkward term for a self-consciously awkward group of people)

        matthewslaughter @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 10:36 | X
        • ah I see

          a little dry for this time of day.

          Why does logic say Bryan will win at Mania? Maybe he will beat the streak? What else is he going to do at Mania? Lesnar? Sheamus?

          Severed799 @matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 10:49 | X
          • i'd love it to happen

            i just dont know that they'll ever break the streak - keeps taker's character pristine. bryan's the guy to do it right now but i suppose punk was this time last year and we all saw how that ended up.
            think he could give lesnar a great match, i'd be very sad to travel all that way to see him against sheamus (yes i'm dumb enough to be going to new orleans for mania).
            i think the bryan winning at mania thing stems from my belief that they'll want to have a massive mania moment with his hand raised and everyone doing their chanting and whatnot.

            matthewslaughter @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 10:53 | X
            Severed799 this'd this
            • bryan should'nt beat the streak

              Reigns if anyone for me. Could be tied into The Shield attacking Taker before he left last time.

              Jordan_229_2 @matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 10:57 | X
              Severed799 this'd this
              • oh Reigns is a good shout

                man, can you imagine if he won the rumble, wwe's stock would have skyrocketed

                Severed799 @Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 10:58 | X
                • reigns' showing at the rumble was outstanding

                  only wish they'd called an audible during all the boo-tista-ing and let him take the victory. but yeah, i'd watch him and taker very happily.

                  matthewslaughter @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 11:01 | X
                  Severed799 this'd this
                  • my mate called it the night before Rumble

                    Batista won because he has an upcoming film release and wwe love that shit. Shame I already don't care about the main event at Mania (unless something drastically changes at Elimination Chamber)

                    Severed799 @matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 11:40 | X
                • ambrose was rumoured originally

                  i guess he was the head of the group until a couple of months ago though

                  Jordan_229_2 @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 11:16 | X
  • Probably deserves its own thread tbf

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25911039

    ma0sm | 28 Jan '14, 10:06 | X
    • especially if it's a repetitive thread

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25911039

      Severed799 @ma0sm | 28 Jan '14, 10:08 | X
  • man marries goat-face

    Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 10:10 | X
    Severed799 this'd this
  • BBC News at the moment is bobbins

    Looking at the ten most read stories is like looking at the ten most read articles on Buzzfeed.

    chanticleer | 28 Jan '14, 10:50 | X
  • I don't really understand what's happening with the Bryan thing...

    I thought I had a bit of a grip on how wrestling works, but I'm confused now. So, the fans really like Bryan and want him to play a big part and be the champ or whatever, right? And the WWE aren't letting him do that, not in a storyline way, they just genuinely aren't promoting him or putting him in the matches needed to make the step up. So when Bryan is speaking out against "the machine", he's not doing that in character, he's actually having a go at the WWE for not pushing him? But they can't just tell him to shut up and fuck off because the fans love him...

    Do the fans really know what's best for them? Are WWE playing the long game and have plans for him? Have they just cocked up and totally misread the market?

    hip_young_gunslinger | 28 Jan '14, 11:24 | X
    • no, the WWE are just managing it really well

      like the CM Punk thing a couple years ago with the contract situation they've managed to make a lot of people believe the situation is real (CM Punk is leaving/Bryan is being held back).

      Bryan has still been in the main event of loads of Raws. They're just keeping him 'chasing' the title as when he gets it thats when the (urgh) 'smarter' section of the crowd will start turning on him (like Cena, Sheamus to an extent)

      Jordan_229_2 @hip_young_gunslinger | 28 Jan '14, 11:33 | X
      • Ah, so this whole situation is being stage-managed.

        Which explains why Bryan can 'speak out' without his employers telling him to do one.

        But doesn't explain why the BBC are running stories on it when it's essentially a storyline in a soap opera...

        hip_young_gunslinger @Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 11:36 | X
        Severed799 this'd this
        • no, that is hilariously bizarre

          I guess it's cuz a) twitter gives it pretend authenticity and b) there are UK shows coming up

          Severed799 @hip_young_gunslinger | 28 Jan '14, 11:37 | X
        • two possible reasons;

          1) Someone working at the BBC is a big Daniel Bryan fan, made the story and no-one questioned it.

          2) They were roped in like others have been.

          The Rumble thing wasn't really unusual; no-one else in a match earlier on the card was in the rumble itself.

          Jordan_229_2 @hip_young_gunslinger | 28 Jan '14, 11:42 | X
          • well goldust and cody rhodes

            if you include their kickoff match

            Severed799 @Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 11:47 | X
            • I didnt as it was on a pre-card

              Fella

              Jordan_229_2 @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 11:55 | X
              • well I think you should!

                no I don't care really

                Severed799 @Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 11:56 | X
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          • news outlets carry stories

            on soap characters dying/getting married...i don't see a great deal of difference here apart from the level of reality you approach it from.

            it's a funny idea that the bbc are getting worked by wwe though.

            matthewslaughter @Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 11:49 | X
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            • They do, but only couched in the context that it is a fictional event,

              referring to the actors and production etc.

              hip_young_gunslinger @matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 12:31 | X
              • WWE isn't openly fictional though.

                It's probably on Newsbeat because for the under 16s there is a higher chance that those WWE fans won't yet fully realise how controlled it all is so for them it's real.

                TheoGB @hip_young_gunslinger | 28 Jan '14, 12:52 | X
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                • Should the BBC really be treating fiction as reality for the benefit of young readers?

                  hip_young_gunslinger @TheoGB | 28 Jan '14, 13:45 | X
                  • like Santa Claus stories at christmas, you mean?

                    Severed799 @hip_young_gunslinger | 28 Jan '14, 14:17 | X
                    Jordan_229_2 this'd this
                  • Well I'm not sure it is actually 'out' as fiction.

                    Can you find me a single WWE source that says, "This is all a fiction we put together"?

                    It's all very well for us to be all knowing and say it's all a massively engineered setup but how much of that is actually knowing for 100% and how much is just covering your own back with a slab of cynicism?

                    It's newsworthy because it got people worked up enough to talk about it. If someone had mentioned Daniel Bryan on Twitter and I'd gone on Google to find out what happened I'd expect to find it on News because that's what the news is: a reflection on what people want to know about.

                    TheoGB @hip_young_gunslinger | 28 Jan '14, 14:54 | X
      • I feel a bit sorry for Punk

        he's been a bit forgotten about post losing the title because The Rock showed up for his annual paycheque/being one of the best mania matches ever with Taker.

        Other than the Lesnar match he's been largely underused/valued, which makes it seem like his being the longest champion was because none of the boring/clean guys were about for that time

        Severed799 @Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 11:39 | X
    • I think Bryan twitter stuff was in character

      Severed799 @hip_young_gunslinger | 28 Jan '14, 11:36 | X
      • How about Mick Foley saying how disgusting it is?

        Does he genuinely think the WWE are cocking it up and letting down the fans, or is he just stirring it up as part of the fun?

        hip_young_gunslinger @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 11:38 | X
        • the latter, i guess.

          he's still a WWE employee.

          you have to presume its all a work.

          Jordan_229_2 @hip_young_gunslinger | 28 Jan '14, 11:43 | X
  • i think that as with the punk situation

    it's 6 of 1 half a dozen of the other - there's some genuine friction between management and bryan but they aren't stupid and use this as a way to leverage more belief in the product. the worked-shoot, shooty-works thing or whatever. of course wrestling works best when disbelief is suspended and so incorporating reality into storylines is an effective way of achieving that. it's just that this time they may have pushed the fan base a little too hard and may not be able to keep them hanging on for what they want much longer.

    matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 11:41 | X
    • yeah it's a dangerous game their playing

      they need to give more of an indication that there's a big pay-off coming otherwise people are gonna lose it

      Severed799 @matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 11:55 | X
  • a moment to applaud JBL's entrance

    which I think has been lost in the shouting, truly hilarious moment

    Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 11:53 | X
    matthewslaughter this'd this
  • So this is deffo a work right

    They haven't just scrambled and re-written as a result of the response?

    Still not sure what they'll do with him mind you, he won't be near the title picture and I can't see him ending the streak (even though that would be awesome) so whatever they end up putting him in is going to feel anti-climatic unless they've got something huge lined up.

    Antpocalypsenow | 28 Jan '14, 11:58 | X
    • apparently he's already announced on Raw as being in title match for Elimination Chamber

      so we'll see. I'm guessing the powers that be deem him too young to headline Mania though, despite his massive popularity

      Severed799 @Antpocalypsenow | 28 Jan '14, 12:07 | X
      • I can see them going down some kind of Punk and Bryan vs authority angle

        With a Punk/Bryan v HHH/Kane tag match at Mania which would be very anti-climatic

        Antpocalypsenow @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 12:17 | X
        Severed799 this'd this
        • unless there were

          very high stakes ie control of the company which has been an idea knocking around for a while.

          matthewslaughter @Antpocalypsenow | 28 Jan '14, 12:31 | X
        • ah yeah can see that

          Severed799 @Antpocalypsenow | 28 Jan '14, 12:41 | X
          • so then... Lesnar/Taker?

            Severed799 @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 12:46 | X
      • Bryan's in his thirties i think?

        I think the problem for the WWE is that the sort of people who love Bryan are the ones that don't buy PPVs or merchandise.

        Jordan_229_2 @Severed799 | 28 Jan '14, 12:31 | X
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        • meant young in wwe's terms

          but yeah, I think you're right. He's the man of the casual (as Punk before him).

          Severed799 @Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 12:42 | X
  • we're going mainstream (not really)

    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/imagine-he-wrestled-bryan-fans-told-2014012882994

    matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 12:30 | X
    Severed799 this'd this
    • imagine if Bon Iver made his wrestling debút

      in front of a sold-out Madison Square Garden.

      Jordan_229_2 @matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 12:46 | X
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  • we're missing the true shock

    the new age outlaws are champions in 2014

    TheKennedyCurse | 28 Jan '14, 13:36 | X
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    • they won't stop til it's 1999 again will they

      Severed799 @TheKennedyCurse | 28 Jan '14, 14:16 | X
  • this has been somewhat overlooked

    *takes moment to sit slack-jawed*

    matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 13:47 | X
  • think my 'man marries goat-face' comment deserves more kudos tbh..

    Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 13:58 | X
    matthewslaughter this'd this
    • not until you stop with the bon iver schtick

      Matt_was_taken @Jordan_229_2 | 28 Jan '14, 14:19 | X
  • watching first segment of last night's raw

    it seems like they may have known what they were doing or have hastily re-written to address the "outcry".

    matthewslaughter | 28 Jan '14, 14:19 | X
  • Nerds

    twentynine | 28 Jan '14, 14:27 | X
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8

      Severed799 @twentynine | 28 Jan '14, 14:32 | X
  • I think some of you are giving wwe way, way too much credit here

    I'd assume it was a work if the company wasn't so unbelievably retarded. but all of a sudden they're creative geniuses and the rumble thing was planned all along? bullshit. see: the burial of cm punk after the summer of punk. was that "just a work"?

    Mehodor | 28 Jan '14, 21:25 | X
    • and you mean to tell me that after hyping bootista's return for months and months

      they bring him back and purposefully make him look like shit so this magnificent work can happen? batista was just a sacrifice was he? you guys are marks. just because they were in damage control on raw doesn't mean this was a grand plot.

      Mehodor @Mehodor | 28 Jan '14, 21:29 | X
      • furthermore, if wwe were just ignoring the fan's love of bryan on purpose

        were they also ignoring the rollins love on purpose? too much internet

        Mehodor @Mehodor | 28 Jan '14, 21:32 | X
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