Your are viewing a read-only archive of the old DiS boards. Please hit the Community button above to engage with the DiS !
Surely it makes more sense to take the show on the road, as it were.
Tour that show the following year.
there's a fair few acts that do month-long residencies in London. How does that work then?
makes you wonder why large bands don't do a month-long stint in smaller venues instead of one or two arena dates.
more appealing to be part of a crowd of 10,000 watching arcade fire than stewart lee i guess
the argument is certainly there for larger performances lacking atmosphere - it's not much cop if you're right at the back.
comedians don't need to split the pay 3/4/5 ways, and while they might have a sound person they don't have tour managers and techs and other crew that need paying as well.
but only when on tour. If doing a week/month long residency, no need to have one then.
comedians I've never heard of playing arenas and having stand up DVDs advertised all over the tube. Do they really get that popular just from doing Mock the Week and 8 out of 10 Cats?!
Macklemore doing two nights at Brixton off the back of one single? I think the mainstream comedy market is probably far less saturated than music so it's probably easier to build up some sort of massive pre-Christmas DVD hype for comedy.
It's very weird, all round.
I mean, I'd never heard of her at all, I don't even recall her doing any of those sorts of shows, so how did she swing a TV series from the BBC and becoming massive all of a sudden? It's not like her material is aimed at the sort of audiences I've seen going to open mic standups.
without looking it up, I imagine she has a theatre background rather than a stand-up one. I remember seeing her doing minor roles in a lot of shows before Miranda.
but she was in Not Going Out.
also: I'm proud of us all for avoiding the miranda and massive "joke" above
She gets a mention in Stewart Lee's book. Used to be on the stand up circuit and organise feminist nights, if I iirc. Doesn't change the fact that her sitcom is really weak.
But, yeah, I think Matt_was_taken's point is correct and is the explanation Theo is looking for.
comedy club thing. its basically an entry into the bbc isnt it..?
Simon Bird and Joe Thomas from the Inbetweeners were both Footlights (the Cambridge comedy society), as were Mitchell and Webb, Armstrong and Miller, etc etc. Spot the famous faces:
my mate who is a jobbing comedian tells me that there are basically two comedian agencies that have the whole market sown up and everyone you ever see on a comedy panel show will be attached to one of those agencies. so from what the understand, the route to fame and fortune is doing loads of comedy gigs and getting signed up to one of those two agencies that monopolize the market. Then you get slowly drip fed into the public's consciousness through little slots on crap like big brother's big mouth, small bit parts in comedy shows, onto mock the week or whatever, and then from that stuff onto the big venues. all the tv stuff, you are getting paid or whatever, but it's a big ad for your live shows where, if you get big enough, you can absolutely rake in the money.
They produce a lot of the panel shows as well, hence why the same people appear on all the different shows together.
i couldn't remember the other one, so i;m saying yes to that as well.
it's a very very small world i belive.
They're an absolute nightmare to deal with. Have tried to get a few of their acts to do my night and it's like pulling teeth.
One of the problems they cause apparently is the acts they sign that then don't make the grade are still tied into contracts and are completely unable to build a career away from them until it's too late.
Lots of lots of brilliant comedians are totally wrong for Mock The Week, though, and there's not much of an alternative route into the public consciousness. It's a very shit state of affairs, imo. TV comedy is becoming more and more a group of stand-ups with the same limited skills. Which is awful for creativity.
one in an enormodrome at the back & one in a smaller venue down the front i am never doing a big venue for a comedian again
chalk & cheese in the venues
even izzard in big venues didn't seem as good as when he did smaller places
is how theatre and musical shows run for YEARS at venues? How the fuck does that happen? Srsly.
It's like their favourite band, except I guess you know you can rely on the set list, venue and ticket pricing.
80-90% of people watching Phantom of the Opera or Les Miserables are most likely visiting London.
a show can go for ever like trigger's broom, parts being constantly replaced. a band or comedian cant give that kind of consistancy
given that - without fact-checking this - London gets a wider range of tourists than Las Vegas, so someone with a decent amount of hits and broad appeal across a couple of generations could do a gig or three a week in London for the rest of their lives. Better than having a jukebox musical doing their songs getting all the money.
and without having to put any effort in.
london: museums, palaces, big old stuff, novelty union jack everything, covent garden, west end shows
vegas: gambling, shotgun weddings, magic, singers doing residencies
Can't imagine Celine or Barbara or Britney wanting to run the gauntlet of papparazzi every time they leave the house in the pouring rain. Even Elton would rather spend his time in the middle of the desert.