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this sounds amazing:
Can't wait to see it
but looks like one that could divide opinion quite a lot. idk.
cuz they're quite unreal places, critics often get swept up one way or another depending on how the mood is at a festival.
That said, I like and trust Xan Brooks, and Richard Linklater, so aye
like something i need to see almost immediately.
It was wonderful. Delicate and human and manages to make you really care about people just going through an ordinary life.
I really liked that these are momentous events in individuals' lives, but which are, if not universal, easy to identify with. The idea that an individual will encounter and people throughout their life, who will, at the time, be really significant, but who then exit or disappear, is also captured really well.
It didn't feel like a 2h40m film at all, even though nothing really exciting happens - you just care about the characters so much that you want to find out what happens to them.
it's that it does fall into a couple of obvious Linklater tropes - eg people having long-winded, sub-sixth-form philosophical discussions, which, while highlighting the callowness and self-regarding nature of the characters, can get a little grating after all these films.
Should you want something to see.
I have a shred of optimism left in me amongst all the cynicism, so I'm going to assume that it's not.
screen 1 and all
newer review here
it'll get watched.
Brilliant. I wasn't sure what to expect going in, I think I'd seen the trailer once but I mainly just knew the plot. As a poster above said, nothing momentous happens, it's not your typical film but it's kinda profoundly moving. I feel like a lot of people will resonate with it and even though it's been five days since I saw it, I'm still thinking about it and it's still sitting with me. Going to see it again tomorrow and I can't wait.
might have to be the week after
apart from the scene with the waiter. That was mawkish, pointless and terrible. Tiny scene though so it didn't do much harm.
Written a review which I'll post a bit later
I love the idea, and on the whole I like it, and there are some great moments, and made me think about my own life and family and experiences, which is really great.
However...I thought a LOT of the film suffered because Linklater was using such broad strokes in both his characterisation, his themes/issues and their experiences. I think when you are dealing with such an epic timeframe you lose the ability to be careful with your characters and dialogue and so forth. Bill, the professor, was just a comically 1 dimensional character that I was actually almost cringing at one point. And when the next husband sat down with a beer in his hand, I was like 'FFS'. I know Linklater was trying to show some continuing theme of self sabotage, but it was done in such a hamfisted way.
Another big flaw for me was the two kid's acting; as they got older they seem more awkward, less engaging and the dramatic scenes just seem really stilted.
I did like it though.
so it worked for me, but I could just be projecting my own experience there.
really enjoyed it, it's pretty impressive how almost nothing happens yet you feel engaged with the film at all times
other than some of the boring girlfriend/moody photographer stuff near the end. loved most of the scenes with the parents. loads of bits reminded me of the kids are all right
Really enjoyed it. I think it's difficult conceptually to film it over this period of time and retain a consistency of narrative identity, so that's fairly impressive. I wonder how much footage was available in total. So many scenes basically brought back replicated moments from childhood (not identical to the characters/situations, but more just that age).
Haven't watched many films pushing 3 hours that flew by so quickly.
so not much to add. But yeah, rally enjoyed it, it zips along pretty well and it was fasinating watching the people get older.
Really touching and quite truthful film. I loved the contraception scene just cos the embarresment seemed so real.
Hawke said something similar about how awkward it was for him to have that discussion with Linklater's daughter while he's directing him a few feet away, thought that was interesting
But yeah, lovely little film.
Kinda grew on me as it went on, was a bit worried it would be more interesting as an idea/technical achievement rather than a genuinely good film.
Spent the first 45 mins or so wondering where it was all going, trying to second guess the plot and probably paying a bit too much attention to how the actors and technology etc were changing, but eventually got pulled in to the development of the characters and really enjoyed it.
Liked the way they didn't cut to a new time period at the most obvious points (like directly after some big, defining moment), and that there were no obvious timestamps to denote the year etc.
Thought Ethan Hawke was pretty great, the Linklater sixth form philosophising wasn't too OTT and slightly perturbed by how Mason started to look a little like Peter Dinklage towards the end. Really funny, really sad and poignant, fantastic achievement and excellent film.
Like by the end, they REALLY looked like father and son.
I was so glad that it ended on a jokey play on a big philosophical ending, Linklater can be really cringey with that stuff so it was nice to have a sort of knowing wink towards that.
Ethan Hawke was so great.
Also I'm glad there was no one big 'oh my god!' moment, too many films rely on these huge controversial twists or events, whereas this just seemed to be content to be a fairly straightforward film.
along with john travolta
But that depends on if one recognises it and isn't essential, personally I loved that touch though
but when you realise that it's ACTUALLY 2001 at the time it's pretty great.
Coldplay actually almost became good again in that context
and more and more so at the end
Absolutely incredible work of cinema, can't really believe he pulled it off.
Flawed however, the boy grows up into an unbearable bore (as most teenagers are in fairness) and the string of abusive partners were little more than cliches but the sheer magnitude of the achievement made it impossible not to engage with and fall in love with.
That's not a cliche. That's, depressing, life.
Just drank too much. But when he's shouting at Mason and saying how he's not his dad cos he's the guy who sticks around and pays the bills he showed that he was trying his best. Unlike the first guy who was a full-on controlling prick.
More the actual characters themselves didn't have much in the way of subtlety. Very minor criticism though (and I guess justified by seeing it through the eyes of a child who wouldn't pick up anything particularly subtle either)
I don't think they had to be played subtle- it's not a characteristic that alcoholic abusers are known for. I thought just enough insight was given on both for the audience to construct a bit of narrative for themself- being a returning soldier with nowhere to go but menial work or a single father in a high profile job isn't necessarily the path to discord, but those As allow us to imagine what happened on the way to B.
I thought it was quite interesting to not have too much detail on either partner. Victims of abuse often find themselves trapped in a cycle where they continuously end up with partners different in every respect BUT their abusive tendencies. It was interesting to see Arquette's character change, and her partners change even more drastically, but the same pattern be played out. That's depressingly close to depressing life, not a cliche as such.
school of rock
fast food nation
of ones i've seen and remember enough to put into a list
good when his mums sad near the end but how come she has such a bad life in all the bits we see they should have had more of her having a nice time
made me want to re edit tree of life to get rid of the dinosaurs and space and future man
don't care fuck off
Just a couple of duff moments mentioned elsewhere (the caricatured abusive partners, the completely misjudged scene with the waiter) but a brilliant achievement and 3 hours flew by. Was particularly impressed by the discipline of repeatedly avoiding the obvious dramatic route in favour of something more realistic. As one review said, the liberal kid being given a gun and a bible by his God-fearing step-grandparents would be used as a plot device in almost every film and TV series ever, but a nod of the head and an awkward smile is much more believable and relatable.
Anyway, this thread seems almost unanimously positive, so it was great to hear some LAD stomping out of the cinema afterwards saying “well, that was the worst fucking film I’ve ever seen.” Not really sure what he was expecting…
I'm glad it was so near the end because that was the point where the spell broke and it felt like a film again. It feels bad to criticise a single moment in it though as the whole film is so much greater than the sum of its parts.
and I assume it was crowbarred in to reflect the changing demographics of Texas or something. I thought the original scene with the pipe was pretty awkward already, but it wasn't glaringly so like the follow-up part.
I think it could happen, and I agree that this is largely a film about Texas as much as it is about adolescence/motherhood
I think one of the strengths of the film is the fact it's so easy to relate to, so I didn't like anything that placed it in a specific place or time (the music grated a bit too). Texas was incidental rather than integral to the story.
There were universal themes to it and I don't think you have to read anything into setting, such is the strength of those themes. But I think given its Linklater's home and over the course of the film he touches on moreorless every facet of Texan life and culture, it is an interesting aspect to the film.
when i saw it it was mainly really middleclass 30-50 year olds. quite a few people walked out looking miserable or moaning. there was one LAD and his girlfriend sitting in front and they kept huffing and puffing like they were bored and whispered through it and both took their socks and shoes off and put their feet in the air, resting on the seats in front. really off putting because i could see their feet when i was looking straight ahead at the screen.
also about half an hour into it i looked to the side to lift my drink out of the drinks holder and the people behind had stuck their bare feet in between the arm rest two seats down
if you can't go three hours without checking your phone wait for the bloody dvd
After the third time I asked her to put it away.
'It's on silent...'
That's not the point, it's still MASSIVELY distracting!
Film also got a round of applause when I saw it, which I usually hate, but kinda seemed more fitting considering the scale/achievement of the thing.
It was odd.
forgot about that
Are there any scenes of prolonged nudity? Don't want a good film ruined by cringing. SSP. No mum jokes please.
Ta very much. I'm pretty excited about this, at the very least it's an extraordinary project/idea.
[SSP from above still applies]
there's only two or three kissing scenes?
theres a bit where some boys see internet porn during their boyhood
and touch the boobs, don't they?
My mum really loved it too. We were both laughing away, especially at the contraception scene.
There were a couple of clumsy scenes, the bit with the waiter, the first step dad, but on the whole it was brill.
Having endured an idiot of a step dad throughout being a teenager, I could relate a little to Mason. Not sure what mum was thinking during those bits...
Can't wait to see it again!
when Mason hit about 15. Blatantly a paedo.
such an incredible achievement and so many great little understated moments. It's the sort of film that stays with you for days afterwards and you just want to talk to everyone about.
Did anyone notice that the girl he's talking to in the final scene has the same name (Nicole I think) as the girl who wrote him a note about how his hair was cool when the bastard stepdad made him cut it all off? I'm sure it's meant to be the same person, it's hard to believe it's a coincidence in a film like that.
Could well be the case though not sure if Linklater has said anything about it.
but I also noticed and assumed it probably was meant to be
Found it to be very true to my experience of growing up in lots of ways (not that my parents split up, but with money and such) seeing technology and the soundtrack used as timestamps, and how a seemingly entire universe can be made in such a diverse state as Texas.
I agree the abusive step fathers have just enough subtly to keep them from being cartoons and genuinely didn't mind the waiter scene, it could happen, especially in Texas.
I almost didn't want it to end and really hope Linklater is considering a sequel into the next chapter of his life.
The Harry Potter book launch scene in particular hit me in the gut.
but yeah, I reeeeeaaallly liked this film.
One thing I didn't mention in my other post, though: a typically DiSer anecdote --- I have this thing I do when a relatively little-known band I like's music plays on TV where I'll excitedly yell that fact more than once at whoever I'm watching the thing with. I think I had to resist yelling "YO LA TENGO! THAT'S YO LA TENGO, THAT IS!" at the strangers either side of me.
Should I check out the Before trilogy, incidentally? My exposure to Linklater pretty much comes from this, Slacker, and School of Rock.
one of them films people spend months telling you you should like because someone in the Guardian said so, Armour, The Artist, etc.
don't particularly see the artistic merit of filming a bunch of actors over a long period of time. Adam Woodyatt's been in Eastenders for about thirty years.
You saw Kidulthood instead by mistake didn't you.
That's all I've got.
of heart and loads in it that rang true about growing up.
What I took from that is the guys who had proper jobs (army officer and lecturer) were dickheads, wheras Ethan was cool and great and lovely but never gave them any money and didn't seem to have a job at any point.. (And the boy wanted to be a photographer). Art vs Life. Encapsulated by the Darkroom Chat slightly.
Both the dickheads had trouble coping with looking after the family, and mentioned that they were paying. When it was all over the mum had to move into a tiny apartment (she couldn't afford the big house).
It was sensitively done but that's the angle I took on it. Any other opinions welcome :)
The audience nearly ruined it for me though. They were guffawing non stop throughout the whole thing. Don't get me wrong, there were some funny moments but it's not a comedy and they were laughing at really inappropriate moments. It was shown as part of a film festival, so don't know if that's just the type of audience they attract. It was weird though.
I thought it was incredible. It got off to a bit of a slow start but as he got a bit older, it got better. I especially liked the dramas with the Step dad and all that.
Ethan Hawke was brill and I sobbed when he left for college.
Do you think there will be a sequel where he grows into an adult?
Part of the point seemed to be that you watch him grow up and then he leaves to make his own way in the world, much like a normal child would. To just keep following him would firstly not be as good and secondly make Boyhood seem that much less special.
Plus where would it stop? Can't imagine anyone would fancy watching Oldmanhood, 3 hours of him watching Countdown and shitting himself.
it was filmed over a similar period of time to the midnight trilogy/7up documentary, but yeah I think I'm not quite as inclined to the idea as I was
in 2022 anyway
about Linklater having a laugh at himself with the end, I get that - the redhaired guy. and his girl howling, etc. but the last line really got to me.
like, the one after the NO, WAIT. the moment... SEIZES US. *mock profound stoner gesture with hands and stuff*.
"It's just constant, the moments..."
that bit. because it does away with aphoristic reaching, it's overawed by the truth within the statement, which captures fully the compressed lifetime of moments, the unstoppable march of time which is gone by the time you stop to look, and passes through your grasping hands like water.
finished me, that. PA in his room, "I just thought there would be more...", that set me off, then the last line broke me.