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"The Putney End houses HOME & NEUTRAL areas. It also hosts the official AWAY area."
Arsenal pump Villa
Norwich make marquee loan signing of Jonas Gutierrez
Jermain Defore remains hopeful for World Cup :D http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25723272
What makes a man turn neutral ... Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
And that was in March. Best of luck with that.
I'll keep warm by neutral-bashing
tell my wife I say "Hello"
So very very cold.
which just said 'come to craven cottage to watch some live premier league football!'
*camera cuts to shots of neutrals in the NEUTRAL area, nodding approvingly*
let alone approvingly.
My god you're a disgrace
So a selection of confused looking tourists have to sit there getting the full "YOUR SUPPORT IS FUCKING SHIT" treatment as they try and watch the game in peace.
who said he found it 'too hard' to keep up with the Celtic games when he moved down here so drifted in to becoming some kind of Fulham fan. My cousin, also, gave up following Liverpool (despite growing up in Surrey he was a childhood fanatic) and just sort of started going to Fulham a few years ago. This seems to be a regular occurrence. Are Fulham Britain's default football team for the terminally lazy/bewildered?
and Jimmy Bullard.
Also quite pleased they've got Clint back and he's likely to play tonight, <3 Clint
It's more like buying tickets for a gig than the usual obstacle course of buying membership, going to a few category C games and some pointless cup ties before actually being allowed to watch some proper oilball.
I have always had a soft spot for Fulham, mainly I think because of CC.
I like the entrance that looks like the front door to Morrissey's childhood home, sure. But once you're in there, it's fucking freezing, the away fans are at an absurd altitude that such a small tier shouldn't be able to achieve and it's about 6 miles to the nearest toilet or burger stand.
It's okay, like.
Although you've been spoiled in that respect as well. When you've been to yet another ground that's a 2 mile walk from the station through either an industrial wasteland or suburbs that look like a war's just finished Craven Cottage is a blessing.
there's not really any stations near it
Putney Bridge is a 5 minute walk.
Is this some bafflingly niche public transport based trolling? I'm just going to leave you to it if that's OK.
you're supposed to be neutral about it dammit.
A few years ago I went to one of Fulham's July Europa League qualifiers against fuck knows who. I was desperate for football and it was only a fiver. I'm fairly sure at least half the people there had the exact same reasons for going.
And I'm Steved on the temperature. It's fucking freezing, all year round.
I'm well down the list of Chelsea's nobs, mate.
Is a Northern Irish Man Utd fan in a semi-regularly watches MOTD kind of way. He recently got a Fulham season ticket (mainly because he moved to Putney and had two kids so needs some kind of social life that isn't having nights out). He seems to be under the illusion that Craven Cottage has a great atmosphere and Fulham fans are among the best in the league.
I've never been of course, Barnet 4 lyf
only time i've been to craven cottage was to watch barnet smash them (twice) in the 90s.
SHIIIIIT ON THE FULHAM.
the neutral stand normally turns into quite a fun mix of fulham fans who can't get to games regularly and london-based fans of the other team who don't want to go through getting proper away tickets. none of my friends living in London support fulham so that stand's a godsend in terms of us going to games together and being able to indulge in bants without one of us getting looks
shall we cause a neutral zone infraction and talk nfl playoffs
in sheffield with no money and a fuckload of essay writing to do.
in the first half, the amount of space and time we were giving Arsenal was ridiculous. There were numerous occasions when the back 4 were passing it amongst them with no one pressuring at all. When we were 2-1 down, we were harrying Arsenal and they were on the back foot. Don't understand why it takes ages for this to happen
Luna is rubbish
If you'd pressed up much more it would have left way too much space in midfield.
That said, I was pretty glad it took you 20 minutes of the second half to twig that we'd completely switched off and have a real go at us.
A cursory look at a few Chelsea forums and blogs suggest that I should, one way or another, feel very strongly about at least one of these deals, but I think today's thread has got to me
Kind of wish Norwich had kept him, Elmander is basically a clone of him without the ability.
Elmander has assisted in many goals and chances, and also as a loanee, we aren't paying the wages of a still active international footballer. Grant Holt however's glory days are long gone (he's been injured all season ffs) and he was asking for too much money.
What IS interesting about that is that they both fell out with the club/each other at the same time which lead to Lambert's departure
the way Hughton sets up is not conducive to helping strikers get the ball, or indeed the team scoring very much.
same reason Wolf hasn't really had a chance yet. Hoping we play 4-4-2 tonight again though cuz it might actually work tonight rather than away at Everton?!!!1
I write like I talk see
in your second sentence there.
I spend the rest of my time writing semi-professionally, I'm allowed some down-time ;)
Much of my job is being a writing and grammar nazi so I enjoy the freedom on these boards
it was more that you did actually blow my mind with that one though, rather than just being my normal snidey prick self.
if you really want to know how flexible the English language is
favourite thing: when he misses a sitter, the ball gets cleared to the other end of the pitch, and then he stands with his head in his hands for about 30 seconds while play continues behind him
They had some kids 5-a-side game in the centre circle. All of the Bolton substitutes were vigorously warming up (they were losing at the time iirc) with the exceptions of Tuncay and Elmander, who stood and watched the game.
now it's been alleged, you can show me all the evidence suggesting Warnock's innocent you like, prove anything beyond reasonable doubt but i will still in my heart of hearts always believe he's massively crooked
which, disgustingly, i think is my first bolton game of the season.
gonna get destroyed.
In the home stand though, obviously. (They don't have a neutral stand)
tickets in home end for £14.50, if any of you would like to go.
never been in the oppo end before and tbh don't fancy doing it.
plus, payday previous day so can somewhat justify the expense.
one year, at the end of the season, just before the league leaders are presented the trophy, the FA should announce that this year the Fair Play Award was essentially 'the real quiz' and the winners of that win the league and get all the prize money. The trophy is snatched away by Noel Edmonds and flown by helicopter to be presented to Cambridge or whoever and everyone has a party and Fair Play rules forever.
You shit cunts.
LCFC slip a place to second, still promoted though. Good to see Forest outed as the horrible Billy Davies bastards they are and deservedly relegated
but apparently forest were the biggest bunch of shithouse cunts seen at the reebok since Ian Pearce made an appearance for west ham
I expect they were (unsuccessful) gentlemen under Sean O'Driscoll
See also: Paul Ince at Blackpool. Impressively violent
He's an odd one though. I kind of think he's so full of self-loathing that he'll never be able to let a team truly succeed, but on the other hand every other manager Forest has had in recent years (and there have been a few) has been an incompetent shithouse. We always overperform under Davies, but it's not sustainable.
Really wouldn't want to meet him
Georginio Wijnaldum (PSV) to Liverpool
Carlton Cole (free agent, formerly West Ham) to Crystal Palace
Kenwyne Jones (Stoke) to Everton
Dante (Bayern Munich) to Man City
Tiago Ilori (Liverpool) to Granada
Nani (Man Utd) to Fulham, Juventus or Sporting Lisbon
Dominik Furman (Legia Warsaw) to Arsenal
Grant Holt (Wigan) to Aston Villa
Antoine Griezmann (Real Sociedad) to Arsenal
Nemanja Vidic (Man Utd) to Monaco
Jorginho (Verona) to Liverpool or Napoli
Andrea Ranocchia (Inter) to Chelsea, Norwich or Galatasaray
Fabio Da Silva (Man Utd) to Cardiff
Just seems right.
(Stromsgodset) to celtic
but no one else wants to :(
that or Ipswich are dirty neutrals
Had they not gone mental that week and got 5 people sent off in 2 games.
the premiership is divided into two: teams that try to win and teams that try not to lose. its so pointless. arsenals last 3 or 4 games have been against teams that have no interest in scoring from the kick off. people might say, "oh but were OK against City 85 minutes", but they still lost 1-0.
we need to have the good teams playing against the other good teams.
them + cambridge
don't let the door hit you on the way out
and not drawing 0-0.
When people say the good teams playing against the other good teams, it really just means 'rich' substituted for 'good'.
Is this what it's like when you're top of the league? You have to find new niggles to complain about, like other teams not being good enough.
Diagnosis: first world football problem
do you like watching west ham set out with "an organised 2 banks of 4" for 50% of your games?
What I can't stand is an organised bank of 10 for 90% of games, but that's my problem not the leagues
you're not the only team that does it.
the reason this happens is the massive disparity between the top 4 or 5 and the rest. Financial parity would see far less of it.
Look what happened to none-more-vulgar Chel$ea in their winning CL march. Came up against teams with greater players, parked the bus like no Pulis side ever has. That's what would happen in your supernova league i.e. exactly the same issue.
plus we're instigating the 0 points for 0 goals rule.
where barca and real just smash everyone 5-0 every week.
us smaller clubs should accept our fate already
like some sort of european league of champions. could probably think of a snappier name then it might catch on
The European League that already exists is what's divided the premiership in two. We need more isolationism in football.
i mean a champions league where the teams dont play in their domestic leagues at all, because they're so shit.
And how long before Barca and Bayern get bored of beating the shit teams like Benfica and Lyon and Arsenal?
then we can switch off the need to have the shit teams from countries that have to have one representative by law (europe will be one country by then) and a couple of decades later we can switch to the "world league" (transport advancements allowing).
Where do I sign up?
west ham wont be qualifying.
we wouldn't have the likes of Newcastle and Blackburn merking United at Stretford. Case dismissed.
it'd actually make it better that it is now anyway.
You don't get to pick and choose which times you want to play the peasant teams.
*bows before Arsenal team bus* Ooh, tug the forelock to our mighty overlords gracing us in this cup sire
Merked you 1-1
Strong experience they've got, turning over tired and complacent Lancashire overdogs. Without Samir Linchpin I strongly fancy them tomorrow tbh.
we went so long without a hint of anti-bants thanks to our man Meths there
who would you have in this league?
but we could say, more or less the teams that go into the champions league today. dunno how relegation would work...actually just scrap relegation and make it like american football. unlucky spurs.
the NFL works because it's centrally owned and the teams don't have histories seperate from the league, that's how the draft can work, and parity remains. if you had a 20 team european league without the parity elements of american leagues it'd pretty quickly become just as hierachical as any individual league. european football's more like the college game, traditional 'big' teams playing against teams with far smaller resources and occasionally getting beaten, and everyone enjoying it when they do. also, this is pretty much the first weekend this season that all of the top 6 have won
"this is pretty much the first weekend this season that all of the top 6 have won". but they are "the top six".
so i don't see your point. if they were only dropping points to each other and beating everyone else in the league then you might have something, but that's not what's happening
Imagine taking that point seriously
American Football isn't as balanced as it likes to think it is, it still has consistently bigger teams
Completely fair and unbiased league of 28 biggest teams in Europe
a Moscow team, CSKA?
please let us know!
and obviously neither celtic or rangers.
and two of the biggest clubs in the world who reside in Scotland.
but them and liverpool away means 22, so still works
Honestly, we're going fucking nuts up here by ourselves, you don't know what it's like.
they play in a rubbish league and struggle to attract players unless they're in the CL despite having a world-wide fanbase. That would change if they were included in this (same as if they ever played in England)
I've been telling other people off for getting Meths-trolled, dammit
surely just the lowest team of each country is replaced by the winners of the domestic league - Making the games against the sides in your own country even more important to win, and better/more exciting for the fans that can then only afford to go and see the games played in their own country/
No points for 0-0 draws.
ie No goals = no points, Alex McCleish never works again
for being exciting and trying to win.
4pt = WIN (scoring 2 or more goals)
3pt = 1-0 win
2pt = 2-2 draw or higher
1pt = LOSS but scored a goal
0pt = 0-0 draw
Also, goals from open play count double, and your final score is multiplied by the number of players on your team under 6'.
of the team you don't really support, royts?
Literally harder than nails, mate.
You guys are the Frodos.
Come on now, we need to get a feasible and attractive presentation together to take to FIFA
and have the whole season as a single tie between 20 teams played over 38 legs, on a humongous circular pitch with 20 goals, with the aggregate winner being crowned champions.
of Kagawa vs a million kids
yes, this is a very good idea.
(we'll be sure to implement it into the euro gold leauge)
Real Madrid, A.C. Milan, Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Barcelona, Ajax, Manchester United, Inter Milan, Benfica, Juventus, Nottingham Forest, Porto
i've just realised mourinho teams will still appear in the euro gold league.
FORGET IT THEN.
even if it looked a bit like he stumbled over his feet and then toe poked the ball in.
that's for true
what followed was vaz te bambi on ice-esque (with a good end product tbf)
I had no strong feelings one way or another about it.
or not, I'm not sure, maybe.
fuck neutrality, good job, me!
usually 11:55 on match of the day
you do realise meths is meths, right?
i got got
meths is waiting... http://tinyurl.com/pr8j4u3
future football thread makers!
notwithstanding transfer window day, you know there's either a race row going on or we're discussing radical changes to the rules/governance of the game. Thank god today was the latter.
this thread is purely about NEUTRALITY
Name the six Michael's or Mike's to have won Premier League Winner's medals.
newell (blackburn, think that's his surname)
I spend about a grand I don't have, spiraling ever more into debt, to watch teams come to Stamford Bridge and play conservatively- yes, even against a Mourinho team! Even City, 6-0 thrashers of anyone who looks at them sideways, dropped down to one striker and gently prodded rather than antagonistically jabbed us earlier this season.
If (when) we aren't good enough to score and get a result against a team who resolutely don't want to let us score or get a result, I tend to think it's our own fault for not being good enough to score.
but the very idea of not wanting (italics) to win a game baffles me. very english.
I think having a realistic chance of stopping a big boy flattening you so seeing if you can get a point is what's English. Other leagues have such gaping disparities that it's not even worth trying most of the time. It's not uncommon for midtable and relegation battling La Liga teams to rest half their first choice players against Barca because it just isn't even worth trying.
Loads of different ways to win a game, too. Not sure any team doesn't want to win, they just don't to get half way through a match and have literally no chance of doing so.
english teams used to be gung-ho, before money ruined everything
italian teams are now banned from my euro league.
this is the free market after all.
about the team switching off when one or two goals up, as if this is ever a safe scoreline with us.
The last 5 years we've had proper stuff to bitch about, like stupid mustached owners, selling all our best players, ticket prices and Gervinho.
It's nice to get back to lecturing the rest of the league on how they should play, like being back in 2008 (complete with March collapse).
but Lambert signing Grant Holt is a great bit of trolling towards their respected ex-employers
Lambert going on about how Holt is a 'proper MAN'
we've all had a man-crush on big man Grant in our darkest days
hey, if you're not using that over-weight, over-paid 32 year old we'll have him
if he played on until when Ryan Giggs stops playing (presuming thats the end of this season) he'll be playing until 2021!
thought he was older.
adriano is 31
obafemi martins *officially* is 29
yakubu *officially* is 31
so don't count dem chickens just yet
FULHAM v NORWICH
nothing of note in there that i can see.
as a logical counterpoint to the euro gold league idea above. how about the lower down domestic divisions actually get *more* points for their negative anti-football. so, like, you get *more* points if you win by one goal than if you trounce somebody. extra points for clean sheets, fewer shot on goal etc. need to work out an incentive for "agricultural" play.
uefa are on gmt+1
purely for the amount of discomfort it has already, and will continue to, cause meths
Not so much parked the bus as left the handbrake off. The man practices what he preaches.
dont forget that.
(and dont mention most of the goals were scored when the team numbers were reversed)
all the goals were scored against whichever team I was on at the time. Bad captaining on both sides.
Whenever the ball is off the ground, the clock runs at double speed. Also, if you have your foot on the ball whilst touching the opposition corner flag during injury time - instant final whistle.
he won the FALLON F'LOOR!11!!1!
he loved his time.
and was confused
Was he at Wigan once before?
Was he lonely and miserable that first time?
Who is that special someone he met this time?
each team has to remove a player at the start of extra time, then another at half time in extra time. more space + tired legs = less chance of teams parking the bus and playing for penalties. also an interesting tactical decision re: the area of the pitch you go a man light in
ADD players every thirty seconds of extra time, leaving it potentially 71 versus 71 by the finish.
The quality of the players being brought on would be increasingly diminished until you were left with chicken-legged freaks who do the filing at the club office playing a roving Makelele role.
one team gets to keep 2 players on, the other team is replaced by 55 children
Nothing, NOTHING, angers a neutral more than watching a game that seemed to be heading towards delightful penalty shame-based schadenfreude instead end with a 119th minute arse-deflection while six players are off the pitch receiving oxygen.
I've pointlessly watched on ITV4 while stuffing myself with bacon razzles that were ruined by some clod scoring from open play in extra time and now I'm really fucking angry.
Fulham and Norwich- consider this the only warning you'll get
I'm probably getting my £15's worth tonight eh
You've never been to Craven Cottage before, have you?
but I already know that's a good point
- All players except the taker must have their back to the goal when a penalty is taken.
- Any team who play music when they score must play a song of the other team's choice if they score.
- There should be a small stage in front of the opposing fans on which the scorer must celebrate for at least a minute if he scores against his former club.
tonight may see me break my as of yet sober 2014, result/match pending
so neutral as it is, do the swiss drink? anyone?
apparently, so that seems like a pretty all out way to neutrally get shitfaced.
Pleased that he'll finally get some Premier League playing time.
Although his leg will probably explode as soon as he kicks a ball in earnest.
will be pleased to see it feature in this shit new ad for some Samsung bullshit or other. 2 mins onwards
I think it's Victor Moses.
says it's an 8pm kick off on the ticket, cheeky neutrals
lovely having hangeland and stekelenburg back. burn's looking alright too. dejagah's been lively
pleased to be in the next round. rochdale will be a tough game though