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I'd buy them swords
an actual kid kid?
as a present?
Don't let me be the only one to admit to this...
So so disappointed
or put them on a wishlist and they appear.
Plus I buy cook books.
More's the pity.
and then audited nothing.What a shit.
It's market research for your job. :-P
But for your fyi, I only seem to be buying second hand books these days (with only a middling chance that they end up getting read).
idgaf in regards to my job - the rare book market operates outside of these trends. But it came up in discussion yesterday - boss basically said 'paperbacks are clearly doomed, hardbacks will survive as collectors items only, children's books are difficult to call because a lot of kids still prefer real print books.' So it interests me
Nah. E-books and print may reach greater parity, but I don't think we'll see the death of paperbacks.
Might be wrong though. Who knows?
there's a strong argument for paperbacks eventually biting the dust.
the speed of growth has dropped, publishers are beginning to see e-books accounting for around 20% of their sales (more in some genres, such as romance and crime). It's gone from 0% to 20% in a couple of years, which is impressive, but those days are over. I don't doubt that it will continue to rise, slowly, and can envision a day where 50% of sales are done in digital formats. E-books could even predominate - it's possible. But I just don't see it being an either/or. Paperbacks are great for what they do, and I think they will always have a role and a decent market share. It's like TV and radio, people have different uses for each, they just need to find their medium.
Of course, there could be other innovations coming. Is an e-book port of a novel really the best digital representation of a novel? Does the growing use of tablets for reading, rather than dedicated e-readers, mean that people want to use more of a tablet's features (video, colour, hyperlinking etc?). Do we not yet have the perfect device? Have we yet to invent the true book for digital times? I don't know, but I also know nobody else does, because if they did they'd be rich by now.
Ultimately, people like what they know, which is why I think cheap print books have a long future. And studies like this (which may be suspect as hell, but whatever) suggest that isn't likely to change: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/nov/25/young-adult-readers-prefer-printed-ebooks
http://futurebook.net/content/search-happy-ending ...unless you ask a bookseller who makes more money from print.
That study however *is* interesting.
of digital product over physical product as a whole, if you go find their site.
It's a bit yelling at the sea to say eventually most things will be bought digitally....but not books because...because.
I was saying:
Your argument of 'those days are over' is exactly the kind of denial mentioned here (although this is of course opinion, but one I'm quite inclined to side with)
though also some I'd quibble. Like I said, I don't doubt e-book sales will continue to rise and become a significant, if not the largest sector of book sales. And there are huge opportunities for publishers and writers etc in that - I don't see it negatively. I just don't think it means the death of print books as well - perhaps that makes me a traditionalist or I'm not looking far enough ahead.
I suspect they will be for specific areas rather than mass market one day, that's all.
Tbh I just get twitchy remembering my old magazine bosses laughing about how digital newspapers would never ever take off.
I would say probably not. It's kinda perverse to try and wedge the paper book concept into the technology we currently have (i.e. tablet devices).
Develop actual digital paper (with all the beneficial traits of paper) OR go all in with the 'book as internet site' concept.
I work in the primary book market (educational) and the digital thing is really being pressed - partly because tablet use is rocketing among the young but also because it's so much cheaper and easier for the publishers that they are trying to shift the market towards digital.
I think digital will push on in children's publishing, but print will never go away - each format has different strengths and they will continue to play to these, I reckon.
And agree with you re: different strengths. The Jolly Postman is always going to be better with physical letters.
generally I think there's (necessarily) much more interaction with the format in children's books. But there are some serious strengths to digital - we are making some non-fiction ebooks which are brilliant really (with videos, popups, photo libraries etc) that a print book could never do.
Interestingly the National Literacy Trust has just done a study which shows that reading on tablet doesn't make as much of a difference to a child's attainment as reading on print does. I'm sure there are a lot of other variables at play but it is interesting.
hardbacks : vinyls
i never buy textbooks new, ever.
Now i buy ebooks.
Still buy roughly the same amount of hardbacks as I did.
maybe you already are
I used to buy a lot more charity paperbacks. I probably spend the same amount now, but the money goes to the publisher instead of Oxfam.
used to go all the time in my old digs but got bogged down with work
but my local is crap. the only 'quality' lit they have is the dead obvious classic stuff like Austen and Dickens, but it's not even like they have most of their books. ordering in anything takes well over a week for the book to arrive and I can only get there on Saturday mornings, which I'd rather spend catching up on sleep.
it's easier and barely more expensive to buy a book if I want to read it that badly.
hmmmmmmmmmm..... do I want to spend £7.99 on a totally intangible ebook or do I want a 1p plus £2.50 postage and packing amazon marketplace paperback?
I also like browsing second hand bookshops and charity shops.
Something cheap for sub £3 on the Kindle? I'll buy it.
Something I recognise in a charity shop? Yeah I'll have that thanks.
New stuff I CBA to buy in hardback and MUST read immediately? I'll torrent it / go to the library.
Wandering the local library's shelves and see something with a cool cover? YES.
And then of course there's the fact I work in a library. Basically my house is FULL of books (and my Kindle full of .mobis).
I have to stop myself going in them because I will come out with a tenner's worth of books.
And usually 2nd hand paperbacks
Never bought an book - not sure why, it don't like the idea of it really
now, I only buy hardbacks or read ebooks, unless it's a textbook
That I've digested, CDs, vinylS, pictures, books - whatever, I like it all being out, I guess it's a slightly pathetic way of underlining my identity.
Same reason I'm not too keen of mp3s really.
It's totally impractical and stupid, but there you go.
Where the design is nearly as important as the the copy. I have LOTS of what you might call 'coffee table' books, so I guess I honour that a bit by getting the nice hardback.
Almost all my fiction books are second hand, the more bashed up and we'll loved the better
I normally buy second hand softbacks and ebooks.
I live behind a library, I'm a fool for not going there to be honest.
percentage of books that you buy (or have been given) that you actually read?
I would guess 66%
I've put a ban on book acquiring until I've worked through them all
Yeah about 66.66 recurring I'd say.
had an affectation for about a year before starting uni of buying classic books from charity shops to try and build a personal library. 2 weeks into my English degree I realised I didn't like reading books much, so most of them have gone unread.
every book i buy i read, same as i always finish a computer game, have a backlog of 5 or 6 atm as i'm halfway through infinite jest mind
I buy or get given about 2 books.
As I'm now 35 this means I live in a house chock full of books I've never read.
R back or hard back but not Ebooks because I don't have a thing for reading them and I only get books for pictures
and recently cleared out a load of physical books. A few years ago I'd have fought to the death to preserve my book, DVD and CD collections but now, even after having culled them all but about a quarter, I'm annoyed I still have so much stuff.
It's sad but books are just too much of a pain in the arse when space is at such a premium.
I've already run out of space for them. Now I just buy the ones I love and put them in my collection for rereads. Oh and the ones I can't get on ebook like A Guide To Recognising Your Saints.
Moving house is made so much harder by books.
I have never paid for an mp3 out of the thousands I own, so I shall try and keep it that way.
I tend to like older books (or I just catch up really slowly on recent good books) so I just get them for dead cheap. If anything I have too much space on my bookshelves so I would buy more paperbacks. Once I am into a book I read it through and only read one at a time so don't really see the benefit in an e-book reader.