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I am generally the first person to mistrust conspiracy theories, but this can't be right. Can it...?
Was wondering when someone would ^this the reference
I mean, he was into transvestism amongst other fetishes, it's not a long shot to suggest he also got a kick out of confined spaces or locking himself into holdalls.
They actually might have ALL of the fetishes?
which would tie in with the holdall (womb).
(backs slowly out of thread)
im sure all transvestites love getting themselves locked in sports bags
Also, add to this the propensity for those in such positions to have a propensity towards, shall we say 'niche' methods of sexual gratification (think Savile, Charles, and how that stuff goes all the way to the top) and you've got a pretty open-and-shut case.
who's this fucking clown
I thought previously they were convinced he'd been killed and were pushing for a full investigation.
Find it very odd to imagine a situation where someone climbs into a bag in the bathtub and zips themselves in, and padlocks it, before dying. Like, proper, Jonathan Creek strange.
Lovely stuff, that
Not this new met police statement
Mr Williams's family said they stood by the coroner's findings.
In a statement, they said: "We are naturally disappointed that it is still not possible to state with certainty how Gareth died and the fact that the circumstances of his death are still unknown adds to our grief.
"We consider that on the basis of the facts at present known, the coroner's verdict accurately reflects the circumstances of Gareth's death."
To lose a child is bad enough, but not to know how 9and to have this suprious suggestoin thrown into the mix) must be so painful for them. I hope tehre is some kind of recourse for them. I wonder (thinking aloud, as I know v little of admin law), can you get a judicial review of a police investigation, or is that it? a dead end now?
I would be surprised if a judicial review is allowed, and if it is, it will probably be in a secret court
Also, as he was effectively a spy, dying in the line of duty is never going to give full closure to family
ps how do you get so many random typos into your posts? a 9 next to and?
just the keyboard (i know, and still i can't type.0 as a rule i hit send without checking.
It was meant to be a (
At a briefing on Wednesday, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Martin Hewitt said he was satisfied that it was "theoretically possible" Mr Williams could have padlocked the bag from the inside.
What a line.
Unless he wanted a) to die and b) for it to look suspicous/ like a murder.
The asphyxiation/ kkinky claustofetish stuff isn't all that crazy.
It's just that on the balance of probabilities it feels more likely than not that there was an element of foul play... but in the absence of somebody to blame?.... Hmm.
no, of course not. WEIRD.
and the answer was fairly cocking obvious...
I would question the theory that it was The State what done it. If a trained government killer from MI-whatever had done it, I can't believe they would choose the old 'lock him in a holdall and put him in the bath' method. There must be far better ways to professionally murder someone. Like dazzling his driver with a bright light in a tunnel when he is in the back seat not wearing a safetyt belt.
humiliating/terrifying mob-esque death to make a point?
was going to transport him out of the room to somewhere he wouldn't be found, but something happened and he had to abandon it and leave him as is.
so thta people wouldn't assume there had been a professoinal hit and disposal?
Ones that are less suspicious then locked in a holdall?
makes me wonder if the point wasn't: we killed him, and there's no way you can blag this as a suicide to the press
"look, we have no fucking idea what happened here or who may have killed him and no further leads so we'll call it an accident"
I could get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon. With nail polish.
that feared he was about to leak records of them and the Americans spying on other world leaders
In a red sports holdall?
If you're planning on 'doing a Snowden' you surely wouldn't tell anybody, the safest possible way woul be to do it on a whim, bob's your uncle, fire a load of data over to the Daily Express.
Uninteresting as it is, there's no conspiracy here. The guy just dug holdalls.
As as spy he probably had all sorts of Bond-esque gadgetry and manouvres up his sleeve. Another idea is that he had a partner who was into dominating and shit, locking people in bags etc. That being the case, they're hardly likely to turn up at Scotland Yard to admit it.