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bit sexist, mate
or if they've always been a bit shit but with social media just a whole lot freer to get their pish views across.
I get irritated at myself for getting irritated by it in the first place!!
the consensus was that people would be far less shitty once facebook login was required and would link comments to real names and faces.
this... did not turn out to be the case.
idiots/trolls always seem pretty happy to use their real names!
I also can't remember, at least in the 1990s, of Daily Mail-type "Christmas is being banned and called Winterval" bogus stories.
shh'd people during the minutes silence? There were a few veterans present
damn you roastthemonaspit for bringing it to my attention
how long until we have a war stemming directly from opinions on social media?
in the past had no where to post them, especially not in such a public and direct way. The only difference is now that they do, we can't ignore them and now know the extent of how fucking stupid the most of the country actually is.
Before social media we could at least pretend that the country wasn't this fucking stupid - but it is.
people continue to defend their 'role' in the ritualist theatre of what we call democracy
if we actually had a real democracy the country would be a lot less fucking stupid
I'd love to see you provide a single shred of evidence to back up that hilarious assertion.
a disgusting ad hom attack on top of everything
you have access to all the relevant information
or would you rather do it yourself?
can you get this one? i'll cover the next one
this is terrifying and excellent
we can still ignore them
This country, as a whole, isn't stupid. It isn't. However what you're doing by analysing it as such is giving the outliers (which social media exposes with a disproportionate amount of emphasis) more influence then they actually have.
Take that Independent article up there. The sources of the discontent are 1 Labour MP and 3 people posting on Twitter. That's hardly indicative or representative of the entire country which you so bemoan. It's grossly misrepresentative.
Maybe social media has given the empty drums a platform to make the most noise. But to overstate their influence (which is FIRMLY a minority) represents just as much of a lack of faith in other people as they themselves are showing.
wanting to stir up a fuss about the Google poppy and just phoning people up for quotes. I imagine that the people who offered up angry quotes did so partly out of a fear of being branded disrespectful by the journalist.
It should be noted that the Google poppy was exactly the same size as that on the Telegraph site, as many people pointed out, on Twitter, to the desperate journalist.
It didn't. It came from a Telegraph journalist trying to whip up some outrage for a story.
I was hoping to be able to link to everyone pointing out how silly, and underhand he was being, but I can't find the link on this phone.
came from. Where the origins of the story lie are irrelevant to the point I was making, although I understand your need to highlight the right-wing media's bad practice wherever possible.
I don't think I'm disagreeing with the general thrust of your post, just saying that in addition to social media sometimes making it seem like the loonies are in the majority, or are in the ascendant, that there is also the factor of journalists deliberately trying to whip up an outrage so that they can farm for quotes to put in their story.
That's how the whole Google poppy thing started, it wasn't some organic discontent, but one that was seeded for a story.
I think in the context of your post it was an additional factor worth mentioning as it explains why a lot of the opinions are given the space and the prominence that they are.
But there you go. But, yes, I do understand the role of the media in `whipping up an outrage`, in fact that was what I was saying the Independent article was doing (and, in doing so, adding to this misplaced culture of cynicism regarding the `intelligence` of the British people).
Although, regarding your point you haven't provided a shred of evidence to back it up. I assume you're referring to this supposed seeding (which I saw courtesy of Owen Jones): https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/399859313486729217
Which led to this piece: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/google-doodle/10441144/Google-criticised-for-demeaning-tribute-to-Britains-war-dead.html
What I can deduce here is that several different people (1 Labour MP, 1 Tory MP, several Twitter users) came to similar conclusions from different sources. In other words, it seems there is plenty of `organic discontent` on display! I am not understanding how the Telegraph journalist has `seeded` the story on twitter, given that the hashtags that he reports folk were talking about it under were created independently of him.
Unless you were referring to another Telegraph journalist who had more success than the one I've highlighted, of course.
And Christopher Hope's tweet was the first one to mention it. The beauty, or curse, of social media is that things like hashtags can spring up from it after the initial seed is planted, which is what happened in this case.
The idea for the story came first, the outrage the story was about came afterwards.
So that's untrue. There are several others who mention it before Hope too.
You're making a bit of a leap, without any evidence, to suggest that all those who were outraged came from one Telegraph journalist as well. I mean all journalists WISH they were that influential but... y'know.
I accept that they got the quotes from MPs mindful of the story in hand deliberately but, the rest of what you say doesn't seem to stack up.
if people had something to do, they wouldn't find time to notice a presenter not wearing a poppy, find out their name, then post abuse on tinternet directed at them.
other than do what you like. That’s the point isn’t it? Freedom? It’d be nice to remember the horros of war to stop history repeating itself.
Recent militarty intervention around the world sucks but it doesn’t have to be about that. It’s about what you want it to be.
Or don’t care about it at all.
Fucking people left wing and right wing, always trying to tell people how to live.
i forgot when Kitchmo did this
I'm sure this thread was kitchmo but I'm sure this account was me
maybe I gave him the account? =/
you were a ceiling-mirror-in-the-bedroom kind of guy, look https://twitter.com/Kitchmo/status/451400951073882112
just wanted to share it with the whole board