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London Thread spin-off - Londoners, do you feel primarily like you live in London or in the area that you live in? <LME-Centric>

theguywithnousername [Edit] [Delete] 92 replies 13:15, 29 October '13

Does that make sense?

What I mean is London's a massive place and, to me, saying you live in London is a bit like saying you live in Kent or saying you live in Yorkshire.

Really, I feel I live in Muswell Hill, rather than in London and I feel when people say 'why live in London?' like in the other thread they're talking about this fictional all-consuming monolith that doesn't really mean a great deal.

I might be talking bollocks but anyway - do you feel like you live first and foremost in 'London' or in your local area of it? People in other big cities, feel free to comment. But proper big cities though - not places like Manchester.

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  • i'd say i live in London

    i don't work in the part of London my home's in, i go out in other areas to where i live mostly. i interact with other areas as much as i do the area where my home is

    brusma | 29 Oct '13, 13:20 | X
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  • this is such a London thing to think

    ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 13:23 | X
  • I live in London.

    My flat is in Wapping, but I work at London Bridge, and I drink in Shoreditch, and I eat in Soho, and I go for walks in Hampstead, and to plays in the West End. I don't feel limited to Wapping at all, though it's a lovely place.

    hip_young_gunslinger | 29 Oct '13, 13:24 | X
    • I don't feel limited to Muswell Hill. I just feel like that's where I live.

      It might be because I'm a bit north with no tube line but I feel London's somewhere I go into rather than somewhere I actually am...

      theguywithnousername @hip_young_gunslinger | 29 Oct '13, 13:26 | X
    • This

      although I live in Leyton, work in Farringdon, drink in Stoke Newington, and eat all over the place.

      DaisyFlower @hip_young_gunslinger | 29 Oct '13, 13:27 | X
    • Yeah, this.

      Though I sometimes question whether or not I *really* live in Forest Hill, cos I've not seen vamos yet.

      plasticniki @hip_young_gunslinger | 29 Oct '13, 13:29 | X
  • Oooh, another London thread!

    deadonthestairs | 29 Oct '13, 13:26 | X
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  • When I say I live in London it's implicit that I mean I live in North London

    because as we all know South London isn't really London at all.

    Royter-Hatfood | 29 Oct '13, 13:28 | X
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    • Not this.

      plasticniki @Royter-Hatfood | 29 Oct '13, 13:40 | X
      plasticniki, LdnMetropolitanElite, silverfoxqpr, spit-fire, Pentago, Antpocalypsenow, chuff, McGarnagle, SarcasticFringehead, and p_a_u_l this'd this
      • YES.

        LME VALIDATION!

        plasticniki @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 13:56 | X
    • :D

      Severed799 @Royter-Hatfood | 29 Oct '13, 13:44 | X
    • I love the north vs south London debate

      Usually happens between people who just moved there.

      I like both.

      CHAIRMAN_LMAO @Royter-Hatfood | 29 Oct '13, 13:46 | X
      LdnMetropolitanElite and McGarnagle this'd this
      • Hatfood's as London as Marckee or Brusma.

        cut 'em and they bleed pollutants.

        Balonz @CHAIRMAN_LMAO | 29 Oct '13, 13:48 | X
        CHAIRMAN_LMAO this'd this
        • "South London?! France more like it"

          Oh, ok.

          CHAIRMAN_LMAO @Balonz | 29 Oct '13, 13:51 | X
  • I think it depends a lot on your circumstances.

    Renting different places over a couple of years (as so many people in London, especially those who've moved to London, do) doesn't lend itself to feeling rooted in your immediate location.

    Having friends/a significant other dotted all over the city, and with whom you tend to meet up at somewhere more central, or if you go out on your own to a lot to places with decent restaurants and gigs and the like, will make you spend less time in the area in which you live (unless you happen to live in Soho or Covent Garden or Dalston or something).

    Working in a location that's not where you live, especially if it's not in the centre of the city, will have the same affect too, I would think.

    it also depends where you're living. Somewhere cut off from the rest of the city because of poor transport links (eg Crouch End) could quite easily feel as self-contained or as remote from the city centre as somewhere like Bromley, especially if this isolation has allowed it to form a more distinct character.

    At the moment, having bought a place up here, and having been working from home for six months, I would say that I live in Leytonstone, but I don't really go out here that much. There are a couple of decent pubs, but I still usually have to head somewhere else if I want to go to a gig, or if I want to meet up with people.

    marckee | 29 Oct '13, 13:31 | X
    • the Antic pub in Leytonstone (Red Lion?) is better than just decent i'd say

      brusma @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 13:36 | X
      • And it's not even the best pub in Leytonstone

        (that's the North Star)

        marckee @brusma | 29 Oct '13, 13:48 | X
  • alll these london threads

    are getting me excited for moving there.

    oojimaflop | 29 Oct '13, 13:37 | X
    • keep it to yourself but it's really not all that

      jacques_le_biscuit_ @oojimaflop | 29 Oct '13, 13:44 | X
      • Oh tits...

        I'll cancel the move.

        oojimaflop @jacques_le_biscuit_ | 29 Oct '13, 13:52 | X
    • Ooh, did you get a new job?

      (You probably said but I've not been in the morning threads much.) Do you know whereabouts in London you'll be moving?

      DaisyFlower @oojimaflop | 29 Oct '13, 13:52 | X
      • I didn't.

        My boss learnt I was actively looking so offered me a role in London. Am planning to use it as a stepping stone though, as I don't want to be here long.

        My Gf lives by Regents Canal 5 mins from Haggerston Station, so I'm going to move there in the first instance. Will be a short term solution though as it's a shared house. Not sure where we'll go after yet.

        oojimaflop @DaisyFlower | 29 Oct '13, 14:16 | X
        • Oh, cool.

          Better there than out in the constituency. Mind, it's one year today since I got out of that world, and I can't say I miss it!

          Sounds like a good first place in London to be living, not too far out. I used to love walking along Regents Canal when I lived a bit nearer to it.

          DaisyFlower @oojimaflop | 29 Oct '13, 14:27 | X
          • Yeah, its lovely- 2 mins walk from Broadway market

            Yeah, I've done three and a half years now and it's become really draining. Doesn't help that I have just about zero ambition for that world.

            oojimaflop @DaisyFlower | 29 Oct '13, 15:07 | X
  • When you're bored of London threads you're bored of DiS

    jacques_le_biscuit_ | 29 Oct '13, 13:39 | X
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    • Oh no!

      Balonz @jacques_le_biscuit_ | 29 Oct '13, 13:42 | X
    • PREPARE THE WHEN SOMEONE DONE SOMEONE THREAD.

      you said BORED when the actual famous line is TIRED of London.

      Time to slip into my special clown suit because you're going to get the razzing of a lifetime my friend

      Lucien @jacques_le_biscuit_ | 29 Oct '13, 13:51 | X
      ethricdouble this'd this
      • shouldn't you be spotting blokes in a gym and crying about Bungpuss

        you big bloke gym spotter bungpuss crybaby.

        jacques_le_biscuit_ @Lucien | 29 Oct '13, 13:54 | X
  • Where do you live?

    Muswell Hill
    Don't know where that is?
    Northern line
    Eh?
    W7 bus route
    I've no idea what you're on about pal!!
    You will never make me say London, Damn you!!

    safebruv | 29 Oct '13, 13:50 | X
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  • I'll expand what i said in the other thread... probably in a laborious and boring way.

    I'd imagine the decision of where you live in your head has a lot to do with lifestyle, age, work location and who your talking too. I lived in Turnpike lane when i first moved to london
    and although at the time i considered it home i don't think it ever suited me. It was only on moving to Putney from Kilburn that i became more identified with my enviroment as a
    true home,
    as apposed to somewhere i just existed, moslty due to lack of finance and knowledge of what part of london would suit me.
    i now live in Sheen and It's kind of telling of london in itself that people (that have lived in london for 10 years or more) won't know where Sheen is so it becomes
    - well it's below Kew kind of in between Richmond, Putney and Chiswick. (they'll often reply with i once went or have been meaning to go to Kew Gardens)
    Overall, I'd say it's somewhere in between for me, I live in SW London - I have friends in north west london so go drinking there fairly frequently and pop in to - the city - on occasion as well, but wouldn't consider those places my home.(turf)
    But day to day activites are definitely south west based be it taking the kid to battersea zoo or kew gardens,
    doing big shops in Kingston and cheap shops in Hammersmith, eating out in Richmond, and working every day in Kensington.

    imho | 29 Oct '13, 13:53 | X
  • *in north east london so go drinking there fairly frequently

    imho | 29 Oct '13, 13:55 | X
  • no

    alcxxk | 29 Oct '13, 13:56 | X
  • The area I live in

    for sure.

    moker | 29 Oct '13, 13:59 | X
  • I think I only really felt like I lived in "London" when I could walk into the central districts

    I think we'd do well to view places beyond about zone 2 as almost separate cities in a wider urban agglomeration. It almost works like that anyway, as that's where the more major local centres begin to kick in.

    Always thought it was really weird when I worked in Enfield and people there would talk about going out in Wood Green as "going to London".

    guntrip | 29 Oct '13, 14:02 | X
  • When I lived in Greenwich I felt like i lived in Greenwich more than London

    When I lived in spitalfields and Limehouse, I felt like I lived in London rather than just those areas.

    I would have liked to have lived in Camden or Primrose hill or maybe hampstead, as I think I would have felt like I lived in those 'villages' too. But i didn't.

    PickledOeuf | 29 Oct '13, 14:14 | X
    • I loved living over by Camden Square

      It actually felt really really "London" - classic georgian square, big terraces, 60s infill, mix of people. You could walk down York Way to Kings Cross in fifteen minutes, you could cut a nice diagonal route across Somers Town and Bloomsbury to get to the West End. Camden Town was just that touristy tacky shitpile over that a-way.

      guntrip @PickledOeuf | 29 Oct '13, 14:21 | X
  • I've lived in London on and off for about 5 years now

    Until recently I'd never really felt that districts were that discernible from each other, and would have definitely considered myself to be living in "London".

    But after living in South London for about a month, I'm beginning to think that maybe that had more to do with the areas I'd lived in before. Where I live in South London feels a lot more geared towards day to day life in general - more residential areas, more supermarkets and small shops, and fewer transport links to the rest of the city. When I lived in Old Street and Mile End, it took about 10 minutes to get to a tube station, from which I could travel to anywhere in London with ease. Now that I live somewhere without the tube (Camberwell), I feel a lot more compelled to go out with friends closer to home, and to spend time exploring and enjoying my local area.

    Basically, I think its quite easy to find yourself feeling like you're living in a little village in South London, as opposed to the North which is a lot more interconnected, and less "liveable" - if that makes sense.

    prof-kitsch | 29 Oct '13, 14:19 | X
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    • and of course that's no coincidence

      since London was formed of little villages growing into each other in the first place.

      Having lived in both North and South London I really don't see much difference. After fifteen years living here I am firmly in the camp that travels into zone 1 every weekday, but gets out at the earliest opportunity and hardly ever goes there at weekends. I just feel like I live in a small town that has unusually good public transport.

      ColinFilth @prof-kitsch | 29 Oct '13, 14:47 | X
    • yeah

      having also lived in camberwell and now peckham, I think these and dulwich and the like is a nice triangle of little communities which is still pretty close to the centre but with it's own distinguished characteristics. Brixton to some extent too but obviously a bit different being on the tube line.

      Severed799 @prof-kitsch | 29 Oct '13, 14:58 | X
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  • About to leave Shepherd's Bush after about 6 years here.

    Fucking love it here, bit gutted to be off. Felt much more like home than east London ever did.

    DanielKelly | 29 Oct '13, 14:26 | X
    • Brook Green has great pubs

      ma0sm @DanielKelly | 29 Oct '13, 14:55 | X
      • A few pretty decent ones, yeah.

        I'm only moving a couple of miles away (being priced out of Shepherd's Bush? Move to leafy Chiswick! What a bizarre rental market we have) but I'm properly gonna miss it.

        DanielKelly @ma0sm | 29 Oct '13, 14:59 | X
        • Isn't Chiswick the 'wrong' side of Earls Court though?

          That knocks a fair bit off the rental value of a place.

          marckee @DanielKelly | 29 Oct '13, 15:12 | X
          • Dunno what the wrong side would be.

            It's the same side as Hammersmith, which is as expensive as Shepherd's Bush or the surrounding areas.

            Just a bizarre disconnect for me that the price of rent has gone up so much here that I can't stay in a shitty creaking flat on a loud, polluted road but I can live in a fairly posh, upmarket place about 25 minute's walk away. London, eh?

            DanielKelly @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:27 | X
            • The West side is the 'wrong' side, from a District Line fuck up point of view.

              There's a big drop-off in prices once you get the other side of Earls Court (and even more when you get west of Hammersmith), which means that leafy, historically more well-to-do areas like Chiswick are actually cheaper than some of the rougher areas that sit on the Central Line.

              marckee @DanielKelly | 29 Oct '13, 15:43 | X
  • Subthread: Where in London should I move to?

    I live in Stokey but bit bored of it and want to get a proper 1 bed place next year and still be able to afford to eat. Somewhere leafy, quiet, some nice pubs, a big park/woods, not too full of wankers.
    Love Epping Forest area but it's a bit too far out.

    ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 15:03 | X
    • everyone's fucking off to dulwich/forest hill these days innit

      or so I understand, I dunno I don't get this place

      Severed799 @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 15:04 | X
      • Dulwich is very expensive

        marckee @Severed799 | 29 Oct '13, 15:12 | X
        plasticniki this'd this
        • Dulwich is fucking weird.

          I remember once having to get off a train there, when the trains were all screwed out of Victoria and finding myself lost in what seemed like the middle of the countryside, without a clue how to travel the couple of miles I knew I was from civilisation.

          And I really, really don't get what's supposed to be so great about Forest Hill. To me it's the same average south London dump it's been for the last six years I've lived next to it.

          ColinFilth @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:17 | X
    • We're going to need a bit more info than that.

      Where do you need to get to for work?
      Where will you want to get to in the evenings/weekends?
      Are you looking to rent or buy?

      Without knowing your answers to those, I'd suggest Forest Hill or the Bushwood area of Leytonstone, maybe.

      marckee @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 15:15 | X
      • Really think Forest Hill is *almost* becoming too expensive as well now, if you're looking to buy.

        plasticniki @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:17 | X
        • I'm not that familiar with prices down that way.

          If you can get a 2-bed flat for under £250,000, that seems to count as affordable these days.

          Can't believe I just typed that.

          marckee @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 15:22 | X
          • Yeah, that's not doable in FH any more unless you're looking at sorting a proper wreck.

            plasticniki @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:24 | X
            • Really?

              I didn't realise that it had gone up that much.

              That's more expensive than up this way.

              marckee @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 15:45 | X
              • Yeah.

                When we started looking we had a budget of 250k and wanted a 2 bed flat. It became clear very quickly that wasn't going to be enough.

                plasticniki @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:48 | X
                • You need to start looking in Leytonstone then!

                  marckee @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 15:53 | X
                  • Absolute ballache to get to my work from there though.

                    I miss working central, I really do :(

                    plasticniki @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:55 | X
                    • Actually to be fair it's not a ballache but would mean I'd be fucked if the Victoria line was down.

                      And I don't really fancy passing through central London to get miles out the other side every day.

                      plasticniki @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 15:57 | X
                      • I used to go from here to Waterloo everyday - you're against the W&C flow, at least,

                        and it takes about 30 minutes.

                        marckee @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 16:04 | X
                  • How are prices in Leyton?

                    Seem to be a smattering of 2 beds around for £240k or less whenever I look on Zoopla. Seems to be less affected than Walthamstow by the recent Zone 3 upsurge. I wouldn't move to Walthamstow if you paid me.

                    GetOffMyLawn @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 16:32 | X
                    • Leyton is probably about 10-15% lower than Leytonstone.

                      I definitely think it's worth paying the extra, if you can.

                      marckee @GetOffMyLawn | 29 Oct '13, 17:07 | X
          • You can get a house for that in Sydenham

            And you get a bigger Sainsburys.

            ColinFilth @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:24 | X
          • :(

            Fuck these threads make me sad, dunno why I ever read them

            DanielKelly @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:29 | X
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      • mostly work in soho/central

        hang out and band practice around dalston/old street, but don't really have a life so like nightlife isn't that important
        to rent

        ethricdouble @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:21 | X
        • Yeah, either of those two places would be fine then.

          Forest Hill is in SE London, but it is on the Overground and Thameslink into central and east London.

          Leytonstone is about 15 minutes from Liverpool St and 25 minutes from Oxford Circus on the Central Line, plus Stratford allows an easy connection to the Overground to Dalston.

          Is Crouch End or Archway too central/busy? Alexandra Palace is quite leafy, although it can be trickier to get to. Wapping is lovely, if the river is an appropriate substitute for parks and woods. Just take a weekend or two to wander around the places to get a feel for them before deciding on where to go.

          marckee @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 15:29 | X
          • Is the Thameslink thing confirmed?

            There are also Southern services to London Bridge and Victoria though. At least at the moment.

            ColinFilth @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:34 | X
            • I think he means the Southern service.

              plasticniki @ColinFilth | 29 Oct '13, 15:35 | X
            • Sorry, I meant that it was easy to hop onto the Thameslink from there.

              I don't think they've confirmed exactly what's going to happen with the Forest Hill stop yet.

              marckee @ColinFilth | 29 Oct '13, 15:52 | X
          • Ally pally's nice but seems a bit cunty to get to

            Was under the impression that crouch end was pretty pricey? Overground is handy but closes dead early, have always lived somewhere near the 73/38 and would miss a decent night bus route.

            ethricdouble @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 15:47 | X
            • is sydenham any good?

              ethricdouble @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 15:52 | X
              • It's a one street town/village really

                All the usual high street pluses and minuses. Lots of food shops, bookies, cafes of varying quality. Essentially the same transport connections as Forest Hill, but you're also not far from Crystal Palace and Penge.

                If you're looking for exciting nightlife then you're probably going to be heading into town (or Forest Hill is nicki's to be believed), but I strongly suspect it's cheaper than FH to buy and rent. Of course prices hiked up as soon as the Overground came by a few years back.

                It's a place in south London. To me they're all pretty much of a muchness.

                ColinFilth @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 16:12 | X
                • Sydenham's alreet, yeah.

                  Has less of a community feel to it than Forest Hill IMO.

                  FH hardly has any "nightlife" as such but anywhere down that SE corner has okay connections to New Cross where there's a bit going on and it wouldn't cost owt to get a taxi back. It's pretty easy to get to Brixton from FH too (the lovely P4 bus takes about 20 minutes). Getting back "from town" in the middle of the night is, actually okay I think, considering you're in zone 3 and somewhere without LOADS of transport connections like the north. Took about 30 minutes the other week to get from Shoreditch at about 5am, changing buses at E&C. It was fine.

                  plasticniki @ColinFilth | 29 Oct '13, 16:17 | X
                  • Depends what you mean by community feel

                    There's quite a bit of local activity, with the annual arts festival, the Sunday markets in the new community squares, the nature reserve and park you mentioned earlier. There's a fairly strong surge towards supporting the main local shops too, the greengrocers, butchers and the PFC.

                    There's even a website, although I'm not sure the forum posters would exactly sell anyone on the place. http://sydenham.org.uk/

                    Plus there are allotments and we now have a chippy that's better than the one in Forest Hill.

                    ColinFilth @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 16:26 | X
                    • Heh!

                      I dunno, I prefer the main road in FH to Sydenham's, and really what sold us FH is the gym and pool being cheapish and close. Though you have a ~lovely~ bookshop. The beauty of living round here, though, is you have all these quite nice places on yr doorstep (I really like Crystal Palace and Dulwich, and Peckham's okay too). Though I walked to Penge the other day and thought it was a bit of a dump.

                      plasticniki @ColinFilth | 29 Oct '13, 16:30 | X
                      • Yeah saving the pool was a real coup

                        It really looked like it was a gonner. Gyms aren't my thing, but if they were I would agree that the one in FH looks a whole lot less fighty than the one on Kirkdale.

                        In the spirit of keeping neighbourhood rivalries sociable I think you've hit on the best point of agreement there, namely that Penge is a dump.

                        ColinFilth @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 16:37 | X
            • Crouch End average one bed rent

              About £1,300-£1,500 a month for a nice garden flat in a Victorian conversion.

              Probably less if you don't mind an upper storey and / or ex-LA although there aren't many of them around.

              Would recommend Walthamstow, Lloyds Park or Wood Street areas. Lots of nice one and two bed flats around there and not too pricey yet. Victoria line is fast and lots of night bus connections. Some good pubs and lots of ex-Stoke Newington residents kicking about.

              moonrat @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 16:09 | X
              LdnMetropolitanElite this'd this
              • Walthamstow and Leytonstone:

                where early-thirties couples from Stoke Newington and Crouch End go to buy.

                marckee @moonrat | 29 Oct '13, 16:14 | X
                moonrat this'd this
                • *late twenties

                  moonrat @marckee | 29 Oct '13, 16:19 | X
                  • You're as old as the man you feel.

                    marckee @moonrat | 29 Oct '13, 17:09 | X
        • Come to Wapping.

          hip_young_gunslinger @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 15:31 | X
          • wossit like?

            ethricdouble @hip_young_gunslinger | 29 Oct '13, 15:48 | X
            • smaller than the name would suggest

              LdnMetropolitanElite @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 16:10 | X
            • Quiet, no wankers (except me), some great pubs, a couple of good restaurants and a big Waitrose.

              Wapping Overground gets you to Shoreditch/Dalston in 10 minutes, and to Canada Water (the Jubilee Line) in five. Tower Hill is 10mins walk, London Bridge is 20 mins. It's pretty leafy too. Don't know what budget you're on regarding a one bed, but my girlfriend and I got something for cheaper than where we were in Bermondsey.

              hip_young_gunslinger @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 16:14 | X
        • Forest Hill, then!

          14 minutes to London Bridge, 30 or so to Dalston direct on the Overground. Lovely pubs (Sylvan Post, the nicest Spoons I've ever been in, Dartmouth Arms, Blythe Hill Tavern), green spaces (Horniman Gardens, not to mention the museum itself, Mayow Park and loads of nature reserves). It's pretty quiet here, there's a lovely new pool and gym and a library, and I've not seen many wankers at all. I rent a 2 bed flat here for a reasonable price so a nice 1 bed should be reet.

          plasticniki @ethricdouble | 29 Oct '13, 15:52 | X
          • Also,

            last train from London Bridge is about 0040 IIRC and the 176 from TCR is a 24 hour route.

            plasticniki @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 15:55 | X
            LdnMetropolitanElite this'd this
            • ah sweet, that helps

              ethricdouble @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 15:58 | X
          • aye will check out

            ethricdouble @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 15:57 | X
          • Mayow Park is not in Forest Hill ;-)

            ColinFilth @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 16:15 | X
            • Pretty close though!

              That area is really much of a muchness, int it? I only picked FH cos I liked the "feel" of it better than Sydenham. I live in FH and it takes be about 7 minutes to walk to Mayow Park, and about 15 to the Horniman Gardens.

              plasticniki @ColinFilth | 29 Oct '13, 16:18 | X
              • I could throw a stone into Mayow Park from my house.

                And I live in Sydenham :D.

                ColinFilth @plasticniki | 29 Oct '13, 16:27 | X
      • I'd say I probably did

        simply because I don't really spend that much time near where I live, I travel south for work and generally head east for gigs/entertainment.

        wewerewerewolvesonce | 29 Oct '13, 16:08 | X
      • moved away from London a while ago

        and whilst i don't really miss London at all, i do get very homesick for Camberwell, where i lived. so i guess the neighbourhood was more important to me that the whole spectrum.

        NYFYO | 29 Oct '13, 23:56 | X
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