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For those that hate Royter and Jordan and don't want to back either of them
Were there any wondergoals?
*neither of Celtic's
It wasn't a terribly beautiful game to watch but the effort and work rate was amazing. Dortmund were closing down so quickly that Arsenal were having to string 7 or 8 one touch passes together just to keep the ball and they ran them ragged. In fact it looked like they'd run them into the ground (they'd covered kms more in distance the stats said) and it looked like it was theirs to take.
Wenger got his subs spot on; Wilshere was slowing the game down and Cazorla changed that, Arteta did a great job of replacing Flamini and was incredibly disciplined, both wing backs did brilliantly.
Really felt sorry for them losing that game as they didn't deserve it but thems your apples. Might make Ramsey stop doing all his fancy flicks and shit now too.
Very Euroball. Gutting way to lose though.
You probably shouldn't if you don't want to get beaten up though
i was thinking this morning how much i admired dortmunds clinicalness (is that a word?) in the game. but then i started to think how boring it is when teams defend for 90 mins and score breakaway goals. so in short, dortmund are dull. and probably on drugs.
lovely finish from giroud too. creamed it.
i thought i'd never say this, but we need flamini to play every game this season.
might build a shrine to him
kicking people up and down
Flamini just wants to kick people.
the second they have one again
Is that what he's doing at the moment with his book? It looks like it might be.
Surely it was pencilled for a Christmas release like pretty much every autobiography ever? And getting a tabloid journalist to ghost write it means you can garner as much or as little publicity with it as you want. Oh, and it was released at 2 in the afternoon. Who releases a book at 2 in the afternoon?
but the fact he had a horse called Rock of Gibraltar keeps cracking me up every time I see it. Which is once every half hour at the moment. Such a shit name for a horse
So hard to not sound like pretentious wank. Just call it Fasty and get on with your life
Rock of Gibraltar's trainers and stable attendants knew him as Bill or Dave, surely?
My family own a (spectacularly useless) horse called Harley, but when he was entered into jumping events he was known as Pontypridd Statesman. I can't remember who's fault that name was but I'm fairly sure we don't speak to them any more.
(convey this to your family as well)
Pitch is apparently unplayable and if it rains it'll be called off.
And also CSKA's coach's opinion on the pitch. "I suppose the quality of the pitch is equal to the quality of our latest results. We can hardly beat them on skill."
Am I paranoid in finding it more than a bit suspicious that it wasn't okay for Pletzen to play on it but it somehow is fine for us.
Aren't there any non-shit stadiums in Moscow? Are Lokomotiv just laughing at CSKA and not letting them use theirs?
Probably play Milner on one wing too.
I thought we missed Commons, and seemed to find it difficult to create clear chances, but we were never overrun or on the back foot for any serious amount of time. Ajax didn't take their chances though. Haven't seen a replay of the red card, but it looked a daft challenge from where I was.
Assuming Barca beat Milan at the Nou Camp, a win in Amsterdam would put Celtic in the position of having to beat Milan at Celtic park to qualify - I think that's got to be the aim, although as long as we don't lose in Amsterdam I think we'll at least get 3rd.
Also, the Ajax fans seem a rowdy bunch.
because they were keeping me up with their singing snd shouting. Unfortunately I think they thought this was some kind of lcoal sport where half naked girls lean out of windows and screech like fishwives, and it made them worse so I had to find some earplugs.
Not nice fans- I'd heard theit away support were scoundrels but wasn't prepared for how bad. apparently there's a lot of damaged seating at celtric park and a bit of a riot in the station before the match.
giving it yaldy out the window to a bunch of ajax supporters before bursting into a rendition of oom pah pah, with a big fuck off beer in your hand.
however if they had someone who was composed infront of goal it'd have been a different story
van dijk and sammy were both excellent again and i reckon off the back of that we can sneak a 1-0 in amsterdam
also the ajax fans were fucking horrible, they stormed down the gallowgate at one point and there were a lot of kids still about, also ripping up seats is *so* 90's
(other than to say I think Blind has now usurped Giroud as my new best husband 4eva <3).
Also, celtic were the only team to win at home in the Champions League last night. SPOOKY.
Shame about them conceding that late goal, I really hope it doesn't haunt us if we are lucky enough to get to a stage in the group where it matters (can't do the maths to work out when that might be so I'm going for a roll and sausage instead.)
That late goal cost me about £300 :(
"The addition of 36-year-old Gallas is a huge boost to the A-League, which is still riding a wave of momentum following last year's arrivals of Alessandro Del Piero, Shinji Ono and Emile Heskey"
i'm booking a flight asap.
just how unnecessary it was
as i tuned in, roy keane was slating ferguson for writing a book, to which lee dixon agreed, 'i dont understand books' and ian wright cracking up the whole time. when chiles aksed him what was so funny, he said, 'ah man i just love roys reaction'.
continues post. Always worth a chuckle after he's potted a couple.
Lists the silverware and goal stats but posts tend to begin with the aformentioned nightmare/struggles continue line which is always coated sarcasm.
(in Pog form etc etc)
has looked that way since day one. i think he's back.
it's imagining what else you could get for £50m and £250k a week. i.e. someone better than Torres, which equals Chelsea winning more games.
Let's be honest, I'd expect to shank a few in off my arse from time to time playing in front of Hazard and Mata
to make any striker look half-decent (which is of course exacerbated by them not even being half-decent in the first place). If it wasn't Torres playing the part of a £250k-a-week clod it'd just be someone else who'd previously been God's gift to consecutive perfect hat tricks.
Torres will do all right this season, bless him.
He's pretty much doing that semi-striker/midfielder thing that Torres is pretending he's into now even though everyone knows it's just because he doesn't want to be anywhere near the goal, but better
I remember clearly saying how many Ba would get playing in front of your midfield. I'm not qualified to do this. Except for maybe at Cardiff
It will make you weep, all but about 5 are absolute class
I think, in real terms, he only about 2 goals in credit for us
sounded like a great match, wish i could've gone cos i love deepdale too. really tinpotly excited about wolves on saturday.
also orient lost their first game last night, to coventry who are play off looming already
this was sposed to be under that churchill picture further up thread. either way, tugs at the patriotic heart strings regardless.
I'm more interested in Rooney's jumper tbh. Looks really warm.
nice to see sheriffs logo is a sheriffs badge. where are these jokers from?
Sure one of your brusmas or your adybongos will be along to clarify in a minute.
Won the league at pretty much a canter last year but that's not saying too much.
The Divizia Na?ional? sounds like fun.
just overheard a polish man in Costa Coffee saying Lewandowski wants to go to Arsenal in January. "He fits perfectly with their style of play" apparently.
we've already got one.
that'll do nicely for when you're bashing the bishop up in everyone's grill after he signs in January
Oddly enough it wasn't me
It was a good game and thought Arsenal were a bit hard done by to lose. We dominated most of the second half and most of the game after their first goal, yet never looked especially dangerous. However, whenever Dortmund were at us, it was scary. Just breaking incredibly fast. Their fans were noisy and good too - don't know if that's ever been mentioned before.
Koscielny, Cazorla and Rosicky were our best players with Ramsey and Wilshere (who apparently got a 50% pass success rate) letting us down. A couple of players looked tired too.
Thought it would always be a fairly interesting game too. Dortmund are about as good as anyone in the Top 4, so does losing to them suggest once again we will lose out to the big ones in the league? Dunno.
he reminded me of that Simpsons episode where Mr Burns sells the power plant and he's lost the fear/respect of people. bless him.
I refuse to watch a 30 second ad for a 2.38 video out of principle
I will watch it again tonight
but his response to Fergie's book was pretty on-the-money.
but do you think that players should be exempt from being moved on if they're acting in a disruptive manner and being irresponsibly and aggressively subordinate just because they've helped win 'em shitloads of trophies?
Seems that was Keane's argument to me - that he could do whatever he wanted because he'd skippered United to multiple successes.
Keane's opinions are never to be trusted. The man attempts to speak like a no-nonsense man of the people - in reality he comes across like a bitter old twerp.
Very much on the side of Fergo in this one.
They're BOTH bellends.
eg why does fergie keep criticising beckham (who as far as i know has been fairly forgiving about his last days at united) and other players who generally gave their all for the club. idk i haven't read the book but i'd hope the criticisms of keane are balanced out by an acknowledgement of how crucial he was to ferguson's successes. in terms of bitterness and unpleasantness i'm not sure there's a wide gulf between ferguson and keane
Ferguson's an indisputable bastard, but he was motivated principally. by what he perceived to be the best interests of Manchester United. Keane's motivated by things stranger and more perverse.
but what do you fundamentally disagree with?
You're in danger here of siding with Roy Keane on something! Quite a lonely place so, be warned.
why would he endanger his united career and slag off half the team for any other reason than (in his head) it was in United's best interests? he takes it to extremes bordering on insanity, but as much as i dislike keane he struck me as a player who was always motivated by willing on whatever team he was in to be the absolute best they could be. i'm surprised anyone would think otherwise seeing that he's been the subject of so much psychoanalysis.
Lacking that level of self-awareness to the point that he repeatedly behaved at odds with `the right thing to do for Man United` hints at a man motivated by strange personal complexes.
Not denying that at his best Keane was an incredible leader and captain deserving of much analysis - just saying his judgement on certain things is SO skewiff that his character isn't wholly trustworthy.
and sociopaths fascinate people in the same way car crashes do.
Know loads of people who are always like 'he just tells it like it is'
He never said Ferguson was out of order for selling him or anyone else, just that to fire out criticisms of a lot of key players for a hugely successful side 10/15 years after events wasn't hugely dignified (not that Keane is the most dignified guy in the world, but I don't think that negates the point).
But, sure. He's entitled to his opinion. Depends if you think his criticisms were justified. Keane doesn't seem to think they are, which is a strange position to take given how it doesn't take him much time to give others both barrels.
but it was quite a good takedown.
i dont care.
Palace have called an urgent press conference for 5:30pm.
So while he deserves to be sacked there's not really much point in doing so. If they wait until December and bring someone else in with the promise of backing him in the January window then fine, but replacing him now isn't going to stop a Championship standard squad from churning out Championship standard performances.
Through his bungling transfer window incompetence their season was finished before it had begun, and there's no indicator he has the nous to do any better in January.
was one of sympathy. Didn't they simply get a bit unlucky with all of their big targets not coming off, leaving Holloway with a massive job in the days before the window shut?
Not saying he didn't make mistakes, but he seemed to elicit notable sympathy for his position in having to make them. Just think it's a bit harsh to say he deserves to go.
Especially that he couldn't find spaces in the squad for a player he bought in July and a player he bought two weeks before the end of the window.
His managerial "level" seems to be getting teams promoted against the odds, whereas people like Lambert, Rodgers, Bruce etc. can keep those teams up when they get there.
But there you go.
Then carry on, good sir!
a) He wasn't sacked.
b) As well as winning 1 in 8 in the Premiership he won 1 in 10 at the end of last season, exluding the playoffs, which we won thanks to Poyet's loose bowel movements.
its on BBC and SkySports
He has stepped down rather than been sacked, we rejected his earlier resignation.
Rumour is Tony Pullis might be his replacement.
until someone has sourced a Crystal Palace baseball cap and jumped up and down on it in the mud for a few hours
to illustrate what type of football he's after
I claimed he was one of the best British managers at any level a few months ago.
This just proves it - he's resigned because Palace can't match his quality
People making considered judgements that pan out correctly are exactly what's wrong with this gaff
War of words escalates. Meths mind tricks mounting massively.
That shot of Gerrard sliding on his knees with his arms rigid by his side has been annoying me for ages
sounds pretty farcical so far:
3 min: Aguero flicks it on to the back post and Yaya Toure is unable to sidefoot the ball home - possibly as a result of a dodgy bounce off the dodgy pitch.
6 min: Vasili Berezutski is coming off for his identical twin brother Alex who doesn't appear to be injured. Seems very early for a substitution. Did Slutski simply send the wrong twin onto the pitch in the first place?
13 min: Aguero has a hoof from range and appears to get his foot caught in the pitch. He looks down dismissively at the guilty patch of barren earth.
why is Garcia playing
1-1 to man city straight from the kick off.
35 min: Well, that livened things up. I was in the process of typing that the City defence are a total shambles. Garcia and Nastasic appear not to have any understanding together while Kolorov and Zabaleta have a brief of bombing forwards, which isn't helping the cohesion. CSKA simply need to rake long--ish balls forwards and over, or through, the two centre backs to have them in all sorts of trouble.
44 min: In what is nearly a repeat of the first two goals, CSKA go right up the other end and fashion their own chance. Doumbia finds himself nearly in possession in the box, but the ball is bobbling about behind him and it takes him a moment to get the ball down so he can shoot - to no avail. Up the other end, Navas blazes a ball low across the box and Aguero elects to delay his run, allowing Akinfeev to save.
but wheres the fun in that?
They'll get anyone to do it.
They let me do it. Once did a Liverpool 2-2 Coca-Cola cup game. Went to fucking penos. Nearly missed last train home from Feltham.
Last minute goals are bull shit - you have to do a quick rewrite of the match report, which is why they normally end up looking like you've barely watched the match.
Half-time thoughts: Manchester City's defence is a shambles - particularly their two centre-backs - and it's hard to think Joleon Lescott wouldn't improve things. CSKA Moscow will likely test them further with direct passing and pacey runs off the shoulder. Should City not sort it out, this match could still probably go either way. on the other hand: Aguero, eh? Six goals in seven games for him.
But why don't Heineken sponsored UEFA let clubs sell alcohol on Champions League nights again?
the commentators sound weird and everything
how many games you watched in moscow recently?
Both sets of defenders (and goalkeepers lol) absolutely crap. City aren't bothering with any ball on the floor at all- they are literally playing route one 4-4-2 on a crap surface, it's like going back in time. The early kick-off gives proceedings a training match feel, which the football emphasises.
I don't give a fuck about the left sided/right sides dichotomy. Lescott did fine alongside Nastasic against Everton, he at least demonstrates some concept of how to play the position which Garcia hasn't and doesn't. I don't honestly know where he should be playing, except somewhere very far away from a Champions League tie.
Dzeko at the other. Pellegrini has some strange blind spots.
No excuse for Garcia.
man up. you city boys have forgotten your roots
aren't going to see how easy it is to run through our defence.
We buy you a winger to cross it for you and you still cock it up.
Niall Quinn was yabbering on about Tosic. Genuinely thought for five minutes he was saying "sausage".
and the finishing of a cold.
Huge let-off this game given how we defended overall.
Bar Garcia...and Zabaleta in spells...and pretty much everyone for the entire last fifteen minutes...but apart from that, mature unremarkable showing and the necessary result.
Yaya played really well, including a great bit of acting for their disallowed goal, Silva class as well, and Nastasic deserves credit given the players to either side of him are utter, utter gash.
but I assume, based on DiS, that we're going to hump them at the weekend. You lot better not be misleading me.
If they play like they did against Newcastle, United, Plzen, Wigan or West Ham then they could absolutely toast Chelsea.
If they play like they did against Cardiff, Hull, Stoke, Villa, Bayern or Moscow then Chelsea could win by eight or nine.
Even on crutches he's embarrassed Torres the last few times they squared up.
I expect he'll play, though.
Just realised we've got some proper Daniel Kelly/mala anti-bants in store for this wkend
5-0 home win
But what's happened to RVP, Ferdinand, Vidic? Any gossip?
Sadly sounds like Sociedad have been pretty shocking so far this season so might be a let off, but I suppose even average teams could walk over that line-up. Hope it's a good game
Is this a regular thing?
I have Sky 1 for some reason so it means I get to watch it. Nice.
(on following football without feeling utterly corrupted by the racist, cheating, moneyed, ballboy-kicking, trainee-shooting behemoth of cuntery that you support)
I'd forgotten about the shooting. It can get quite difficult keeping track.
Love that man Cole.
More likely than fisticuffs is that he's just had a whinge about Moyes' training methods and he's just trying to show him who's boss. I expect the club will quickly put it down to some sort of generic muscle injury or something.
non-United fans who are choosing to watch a game other than Madrid v Juve?
Round 'em up, please.
But then Anderlecht got Zlataned so I've moved on to the Leverkusen match which is probably going to get really dull now Leverkusen are winning.
Poor bloke. Pretty sweet stuff from spud boy though.
Just found out via the BBC Football live feed and did a double take.
lot of Spanish savvy pundits were bigging them up big time at the start of the season.
maybe Illarremendi was more important than people gave him credit for
so only a bit worse than Utd
I think we've fell a couple of months behind the Numpty Blog Reader With ESPN's Opinion of Choice. They seem to have moved on to saying Roma are the greatest club side of all time. I lost track somewhere around the time they were trying to claim that Turkish holding midfielder was Dortmund's best player.
surprisingly his first in the CL
Have some of that!
Most powerful shot of all time?
Has turned into a comedy splashathon.
not quite as farcical as the dinamo zagreb game last year where it snowed really heavily, but it's up there for the champions league.
Didnt city and other teams try it out before? Think its a good idea really, especially at grounds like old trafford.
has to be a good idea. People are probably reacting to the fact it's being called the 'singing section' and is has been implemented by the club itself as opposed to the fans.
But yeah, if I could be guaranteed a seat next to other people who would want to stand up and sing, as opposed to sit down and film the game on their iPad, I'd go to a lot more home games.
not the club. but yeah, good thing.
Fan-led thing where they pick a random block within the stadium for the least popular games (coming up they've chosen the Hull league cup game and the Sheriff Europa game) and everyone buys a ticket in that section and just sings for the whole game etc
probably easier to organise unnofficially at spurs with less day-trippers.