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kinda slow-paced, but no-one's had their pacemaker hacked into or anything
Nothing stupid has happened.
It was rather brutal tonight.
that I have no care for now. Such a shame it's become so poor after a stunning first series.
Don't know why I bother.
if anywhere before I stop watching. Perhaps Clare Danes being a producer now is an issue. She may allow herself more scenes where she can act as a person with mental health issues and so increase her chances of an Emmy or Golden Globe. Either way, it's a shit series now. Lucky that The Walking Dead was back on Friday, Arrow (which is daft as hell but great fun) is back tonight and American Horror Story begins in a week or so.
on the clear feeling that both lead characters are at a dead end. because that's what the series feels like now and however they escape their situations, it will be ludicrous, last days of 24 type stuff. hard to keep my disbelief suspended.
After the abombination of Season 2, this is excellent. Slow, methodical, character driven. It's what made season 1 so good
But i'd rather it's more like the last series of 24. Stupid but fun. Brody looking in the distance with some dodgy paedo doctor giving him heroin is just too bizzare and ponderous.
Saul suddenly being a racist in the way he treated that Muslin accountant was shit.
this programme is utter gash but I don't think Saul being a little racist to get results was that awful. This is the CIA, they do monstrous things to get results, things a lot worse than being slightly racist.
It was pointless racism, having a go at her headscarf. Just made him out to be a massive cunt.
I liked Saul, but he isn't at all sympathetic this season.
and half-justified for the good of the many. but this time he was just being a big prick to somebody one-on-one. it was weird. maybe they're trying to build up to him losing the plot.
I just read it as; Saul needs to ensure the CIA isn't disbanded, so he's going to use semi-reverse psychology to give his new analyst a kick in the ass. In any event, he wasn't actually having a pop at her ethnicity anyway, just her decision to wear a headscarf.
hour of my life
epidsode 3 left me wondering why id sat through the whole thing. 4's good, actually enjoyed it and looking forward to the next one now.
it was tedious. Why is brody in caracas? Uhm its explained but I'm not that bothered. How did that girl suddenly learn english? Actually don't care. What about this peado/heroin pusher docnah don't care any more.
I'd like to say I'm going to stop watching and devote myself to better things but I will probably just end up watching the rest of the series to see it through, but I'm gonna moan about it.
just found this http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/10/the-real-tower-of-david.html
people love the Raid and some loved Judge Dredd, so let's give it a crack.
At least Brody battling up the tower next week would be an improvement.
and stuck him there. In the last series wasn't he crossing the boarder into Canada?
there, have that
Is he with that young boy or soemthing?
alluding to him not being accepted by society whilst stroking the boy's hands
can't make up for the fact that nothing seems to be happening.
He was just enjoying the sweet sweet hands.
And he's not accepted in society because of his views on Vietnam... also he was stealing projectors
Brody's in the same situation as when he was first captured, just with the doctor taking the muslim guy's place (forget his name), carrie's in the nuthouse again...
This season will be about turning the tables on the captors and getting some normality back. Will probably end with Brody and Carrie going at it hardcore style in the back of a landrover
It just didn't bear any resemblence to the 28 episodes which had come before it. Thought some of the scenes in the half-built Caracas towerblock were pretty stunning visually, but yeah, it's a load of shite really, but in a way seeing just how shite it can become is quite engrossing in itself.
Horrid, though he did look kinda badass in the short sleeved hoody.
'You just got crushed by a cow... bitch'
‘#Homeland has lost it’s excitement and interesting plot.. Very boring! #yolo Brody !
although the twist seemed a bit...contrived.
"He's not real! They're twins! It's set in space!"
I knew it
And that a wizard brought them all together to kill his brother who was actually a smoke monster, but he didn't tell anybody that, so most of them died before they realised what was going on
or is it?
hope they give Saul a sword at some point
and yes episode 4 is an improvement
I haven't felt like this watching a show since Flashforward. I'm hoping they'll bring Joseph Feinnes in to guest star as Agent Benford.
i was properly annoyed by that twist.
I know I said up there that i would probably just stick it out but this weeks episode made it clear that only the actors playing carrie and saul are any good, the writing is just terrible (thinking about the dialogue between the runaway kids) and the plot is just flat out boring. That twist as well... bullshit.
Maybe it would have been better if we hadn't been numbed into submission by three episodes of dullness.
I thought it was quite poorly executed, and essentially unforeseeable.
Before the twist, I was all; "Guess Saul is being a dick because he wants to save the CIA by any means".
After the twist, I was all; "Hang on... what about...? Wait a minute...but...eh?"
It's falling between that one notion of entirely serious and believable, and the other, of being CSI:Langley.
Season 1 was built on the tension of whether or not Brody had been turned by jihadists, and whether Carrie's condition would get the better of her.
That schtick got tired by Season 2, so they changed it to a story about the doomed relationship between a war hero congressman-cum-CIA/jihadi-double-agent and his bipolar CIA agent mistress. It was implausible, but at least I believed in the central character dynamics.
Now we're in Season 3, I've no idea what the fuck this show is supposed to be.
remember the end of ep 1 when Carrie sees Saul throw her under the bus on tv? Shes by herself and should know exactly what hes doing but is visibly upset and starts crying and looking devastated. Purely to fool the audience. Cheap.
Not that I want to be defending the twist particularly but they *may* come back on this and fill in some blanks. Like when he came to see her in the hospital and she says 'fuck you, Saul' he explains what it's all about.
Still, it's cheap stuff, but twists in films and TV nearly always rely on this kind of cheap stuff otherwise you'd rarely get it working.
the plan was supposedly concocted right after the bombing, which possibly makes it more ludicrous
Q: And the other part of this relief is that Saul wasn’t selling her out.
A: He was clearly the one who leaked the information to the committee about her having an affair with Brody (Damian Lewis) But she was aware that was going to happen. It didn’t diminish the power of it actually happening in front of a national audience. So when she’s reacting to what Saul’s saying, she’s reacting to what it really means, that this is what it feels like. You go back and watch it again. We spent a lot of time with Claire on the set making sure both [ways of viewing the story] were playing.
And we're back to the bit where this show expects us to take it THAT seriously. Probably we might if they hadn't spent so much time in the previous two series making choices that seemed completely stupid and unrealistic just for some half-arsed TV.
if it had a nu-metal theme you'd expect all of this.
i forgot about carrie listening to jazz in the first series. because it represents the clarity she finds when her mind is chaotic. do you see? because jazz is a bit incoherent sometimes. like her mind when she's off her meds. but she can find order in disorder. like in the jazz music. do you see? it's about the clues they *don't* have. piecing it all together. do you s
by sticking Rollin on
Claire Danes putting on her Fred Durst cap and doing all the moves
(is this the right thread?)
So it's this one.
And I thought that Claire Danes' couldn't be topped. I was so, so wrong.
God, that Dand stuff was pointless.
Why did Carrie give a shit about her?
I wanted more Brody fucking shit up when on the Run. Not one dull episode of him chatting to a paedo and trying to 'get home'
although I was kind of bemused by Brody's former wife going to Carrie for help in the first place.
There is caring, and there is almost ruining her undercover operation.
Saul or the other guy could have handled it just as easily. Hell, if she wanted it on the news, just leak it to a news network!
Saul and the other guy still see Brody as a suspected terrorist on the run, so I don't really think they'd care that much about his daughter, particularly when they're currently hell bent on rounding up a terrorist cell.
I don't think she had many options when it comes down to it, even going the press could be difficult as they'd probably think twice about taking information from 'that bi-polar lady who almost compromised the nations security'.
This is actually why I think it was so strange Brody's wife thought Carrie would help her she's probably the worst placed person to offer any help right now.
She could have told Brody's (ex) wife to go to the press herself.
Saul was right to be pissed of at Carrie.
Stupid plot with Dana ended thankfully, not sure why they are still focussing on Brodys family?
poor episode, but I'm still standing by my comment that this season so far is a massive improvement from last season
Also, certain people keep complaining every week that its shite, but carry on watching: what's that all about?
rubbish, but it's not rubbish enough for me to stop watching. I live in hope of a great episode! I did the same during the last series of torchwood.
Still not sure how we're meant to be believe Carrie fooled the CIA for, what, 10 years, if she kept pulling this sort of maverick crap every fucking mission.
Or maybe the central message is meant to be that if you are pregnant you completely cease to be able to ever think clearly.
and not taking her medication. That said, I do feel like her mental health issues are used as a get out clause for every irrational decision she makes though.
On a ridiculous comparison level to season 2, it's not even close
It's pretty much on a par with the last series of Torchwood they did, the one set in the US and Wales.
just bollocks isn't it?!
Timings don't fit
when she was chatting to the doctor in the last episode, she intimated that there's some specific significance to who the father is. So it's not going to be that bozo Brody-like she slept with.
surely more than 3 months have gone by
presumed it was that random guy
hope the baby is ginger with a VERY wobbly chin
(she's 18 weeks as of the last episode)
Also gives me a spoiler about this Sunday's episode (thanks, Google) that I won't share
presume being a top spy and motherhood are not the best of combinations
because the silly little pregnant woman can't possibly make decisions rationally with all those little baby hormones floating around in her brain!
going to need some new trouser suits soon though
how would she know? As in presumably she wasn't trying to get pregnant with Brody and iirc there weren't any tests done to find out who the father is.
and she can work backwards from there (assuming she wasn't sleeping with someone else at the time)
she must have figured it out at the doctors office.
i mean, obviously series two was pap, but what the actual fuck is going on?
I've quite enjoyed the slow pace of this series... Some of it has almost seemed credible.
Tonight's offering can just FUCK OFF.
Is that where they've sent the latest batch of drones?
Too much of Carrie doing ridiculous things, but it was fine.
I thought Season 1's 'is Brody a terrorist?' plot got very tired very quickly. I much preferred the 'Brody is a double/triple-agent' plot of Season 2.
it's fucking appalling.
I will not be watching a 4th series.
It belongs in the era of E.R. or 24. But we've been spoilt by The Wire, Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire et al. Even once-dazzling stuff like The West Wing and The Sopranos seems kinda creaky in our post-Breaking Bad world.
but always staying just the right side of cable/hbo type quality. The pirce of burning through all those plot twists in season 2 was that there is literally nowhere for the show to go now but grand scale shit where world wars are on the line. It becomes Andy Mcnab/24 type shit where the drama is cheap and impersonal
but his son is fine. Ace writing guys
'Homeland: The Videogame' franchise.
but my gut instinct is that this has been one of the worst hours of drama i've seen.
Lewis' acting and most of the dialogue is fucking unbelivably dreadful.
sounds like the finale might be worth watching.
was thinking the finale was actually pretty good, then they bunged a load of extra stuff on the end which just makes no sense at all.
how the fuck is this still on the telly? "four months later"...FUCK OFF.
i didn't get why they didn't end the series with the Brody bit. The last half-hour was a bit unnecessary.
Not a great series all in all. Could've compressed it into about four episodes.
re: the pointless post-brody bit, and the compress into four episodes bit.
very little left to draw me back in for the fourth series. ironically enough, nothing of interest is left dangling. at least S2 kinda sorta acted as a set up for S3.
I can walk away from Homeland now without caring too much about what happens next. As bad as S3 was, i still felt compelled to find out what happens.
And yet I still watched all of it for some reason.