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I'm not a massive fan of The Cheshire Cheese. Yeah it's got loads of nooks and crannies but it lacks cosyness and warmth. And you can't get any phone signal in there, which isn't good if you're meeting people in there and you've blagged a table somewhere difficult to find...
I have a very soft spot for The Lyceum Tavern. It's definitely not the best though.
Where hungover from a Wednesday we'd go to The Lyceum on a Thursday and imaginatively get trollied again.
So many amazing times, apart from the time we all drank neat gin all day in some misguided attempt to be distinguished and it all got a bit dark and our mate Pete told us about when he was 15 his brother had to drive him and his missus from Cardiff to Bristol to have an abortion.
Although THE TOILETS FUCKING STINK. They're never gonna sort that are they?
so probably not allowed to sort it out.
The floor is like a grating over the bowl of the urinals - are you meant to stand on the grating, or stand off it and piss through it? No one ever seems to know.
I've seen people do both.
It's a wonderful pub interior and the booths are great, but it just always seems packed full of arseholes. If it was a little bit quieter and the clientele were a bit less boorish, it'd be perfect.
(in Zone 1 at least)
Which is what I look for in any pub.
He's been known as 'Pebbles' ever since
Good atmosphere down there when it's busy.
Perfect place to meet people if they insist on meeting somewhere as ridiculous as Trafalgar Square.
when it's busy, but not too busy, upstairs it's a great boozer. Good atmosphere in there.
Shows how long it's been since I've been there.
and is now the Windsor Castle.
Yeah, suppose you've got a point.
and every pub has both the same decor and the same particular choice of beers, crisps, etc.
At least Weatherspoons pubs are markedly different in terms of architecture and often have a lot of different guest ales on.
Fitzroy, Cheshire Cheese, Cittie of Yorke, Princess Louise are all very different architecturally, externally and internally.
Yeah there are differences (I know they made the Princess Louise quite different, to its detriment) but there's a sense of similarity that makes you feel the same in every one.
They restored an old gin palace.
How about your restore your Victorian house to its original form and stick your toilet in a shed at the end of the garden?
It may be like it was as a gin palace but it is now a fucking annoying place to meet for a beer with anything more than one person and a love of standing up continually and feeling like a prisoner in a panopticon.
It may not be identical but it's very very similar.
by a mile
Wapping, isn't it?
Lovely outside area in the summer.
so pretty easy to get to! Always quiet on weekends too.
(Technically the Town of Ramsgate is closer, but I don't like it). The Captain Kidd is an amazing pub, roomy but cosy, fantastic outdoor space, good mix of people.
My friend does the same pub crawl for his birthday each year, its become a winter "curtain raiser" now and takes in The Grapes, Narrow Street Pub and Dining Room, The Prospect of Whitby and the Captain Kidd. Some great pubs round there!
Sam Smiths are tied to a brewery, Wetherspoons aren't.
In answer to sheeldz question: Kind of. Belhaven are owned by Greene King though.
Went there the other day.
Sip on a warming glass of chocolate stout by a roaring fire before moving upstairs to play a few games of poolio then, come closing time, amble over to Renato's for some sophistichat.
now that the beer isn't even cheap
presumably after they lost so much custom.
or some sort of midpoint?
I can't remember off the top of my head.
I remember going to Cittie of Yorke the prices had gone up and it was about four quid for the cider! Didn't go for a long time after that but now it seems to have gone back to about 3 pounds.
and I think Brewery Bitter is sub £3.
to make the rotgut worth it?
was £3.70. So not too bad.
I went there once. It was alright I guess.
How many other Sam Smiths pubs have a view over the river Thames?
hmmm, looking at the link below, there may be one or two more, but the Gazebo is fantastic.
...including a view of The captain Kidd on the other side of the river.
I'm sure I've been there but I don't remember.
Good spot for a Sunday roast...
I spent many happy an afternoon there
Used to go there all the time for some reason and once met Lydia Lunch there (she was having a tea)
Wow, that was an error
Probably my all in favourite now I've remembered the John Snow's prior indiscretions...
There isn't much going on in there.
I like the ones with pretty windows. I cannot remember the name of any of them despite being on 3 Sam Smith's pub crawls.
APRICOT BEER PLS
No nonsense no gimmick boozer.
and there is always a bet in pubs 1-3 about how many people will be on the crawl at pub £7 and I guessed correctly and won about £28.
Not my favourite but a good one, near a huge tourist spot but always quiet, lots of different rooms, some outdoor space, a pool table, a shrine to a popular local dog - pretty good.
You can abuse asains and irish as they walk past on st georges day
Used to work next door when I was a grad at an ad agency. Used to get fucking mangled in there. Also won a darts match against some TV sales dudes and killed a mouse. Loved it there
Mate of mine used to insist on going there as it was cheap. Wasn't a massive fan of the beer, personally, but it's a nice old building.
Even at a time when I'd pretty much drink anything this was the one place in town I thought the beer was a bit shit.