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Waaaaambulance for Jose
I hope his headline revelations are bigger than 'petulant, stroppy man throws petulant strop at not getting something he wanted'. Not that the image isn't hugely enjoyable obviously.
The pout-off between him and AVB tomorrow should be pretty enjoyable though, got a horrible feeling Spurs might win
I mean, even ignoring that Mourinho agreed his return to Chelsea months before Ferguson announced he was leaving, it's kinda funny.
Doubt anybody's going to argue that Moyes is a better manager, but there's been rumblings for years that United weren't that impressed with the way Mourinho carried on.
Moyes doesn't guarantee trophies, but he's much cheaper, a lot less likely to set fire to the place and flounce off after 3 years and (I suspect most importantly of all) less likely to kick off publically when Malcolm tells him he'll have a budget of 4 buttons for the next transfer window.
when he slapped that Barca coach (or whatever it was he did...remember the outrage more than the incident).
Yeah, not his finest moment. Think the whole attitude around his Madrid team in the classicos might have turned a lot of people off, resorted to some pretty nasty business on the field and constant bitching and moaning about conspiracies off it. Fine margins though, if they'd won a few more of those games then it's managerial genius, seige mentality etc.
but charging up and down the touchline, or (my personal favourite) refusing to send Arsene Wenger a Christmas card falls within the bounds of forgivable antics, eye gouging is a bit...dirty.
was really that bothered by Mourinho's naughtiness. Especially given that a healthy number of journalists worship at the church of Jose no matter what he does.
Those rumblings always came from golden-days former players with non-exec positions at United, not anyone with any genuine boardroom authority.
Not daft enough to have convinced myself that Jose has only ever had eyes for Chelsea, but the notion that United could have got Mourinho at a whim but went for Moyes instead is too much of a stretch for me.
as you say, mourinho's attitude on the whole isn't/wasn't worse than Fergie's.
I'm amazed I've lasted this long, tbh.
I don't think Jose is conclusively nomadic anyway, tbh. H left Porto and Inter under circumstances that pretty much any manager would leave (promotions, essentially). He's been Chelsea's longest serving manager in a notoriously batshit decade, and was La Liga's longest serving manager when he left.
Where do people genuinely think he'd go after achieving success on a return to England? And don't say France. He's better than France.
the person who has released this story is a known wind-up merchant who has a book to sell.
is apparently seen as the pinacle of football management. This is a man who has won European Cups, and managed the world's elite football club.
Might see if I can get an early supermarket thread going.
Replacing Ferguson, the last great long-serving manager, would have been an unrepeatable feat in football management and would have appealed greatly to Mourinho's ego; I imagine he is a little bit put out that it was wasted on a nobody with a fixed expression of panic.
The whole "United SPURNED the session one" is bollocks, though. Both Ferguson and Mourinho were sniffing around each other about a year ago with a lot of coy hint hinting going on. The United board only SPURNED him in the sense they decided they couldn't support what he would have wanted.
Pretty good description of Moyes there.
When they were ahead on Wednesday he was just wandering round the dugout looking completely confused. Genuinely looked like a man who couldn't work out why they were ahead and what to do about it.
Quite like demeaning observations about managers being seemingly out of their depth. Other favourites:
Gianfranco Zola at West Ham looking like a man who won the right to manage them in a magazine competition.
Roberto Martinez at Everton looking like a man who inherited a big Premier League club from a rich uncle.
Steve McClaren looking like a National Express coach driver.
But now he is back I've been reminded that he's mostly a whinging, spiteful cunt and watching Chelsea under him is an experience utterly devoid of joy and beauty.
Should've given Benitez the job full time. I like Benitez.
...but the more I think about it, all I can remember is loads of obdurate home wins and Lampard scoring THOUSANDS of penalties. Not sure if accurate.
...but I remember hearing various ITKs say Moyes had been sounded out to replace Fergie several years ago, by Fergie, and the only question was when it would happen.
with his tail between his legs to work for his former abusive boss? Mourinho was desperately seeking the utd job and Chelsea was the back up plan.
or so a Wednesday fan might argue
definitely won't be arguing he was the most talented English footballer of his generation, sorry
Remember when he was 17 and he scored 3 goals in 3 games and he was THE NEXT WAYNE ROONEY before Wayne Rooney was even a thing? I remember that. Fat spotty lad who scored a few for Wednesday and sank without trace.
Wednesday had quite a plump team around then what with Kevin Pressman in goal.
Quite a few flash in the pan ENGLAND FUTURE superstars around that time. Humphries, Danny Cadamarteri, John Oster... couple of lads from Carlisle. Who was the chap who Palace bought? He was one of them. A few more.
Some mean people might even put Michael Bridges in this list. Genuinely believe that Bridges would've gone on to be talked of in Rooney/Shearer levels of genius had he not had his injuries. A complete player, before it became a cliche. That and Stan Collymore's wasted talent are two of the saddest things football has ever seen :(
when Wednesday came last season, their goalkeeping coach was the fattest football-related professional I've ever seen. It wasn't Pressman, sadly
What is it about Wednesday and lardmonger 'keepers?
Pressman might be my favourite goalie of all time though. Utterly brilliant. Loved him.
Lot of fondness for 90's Wednesday actually. Remember their G FORCE forward line with Gerald Sibon and Gilles De Bilde? How many goals did they score between them? 6?
caught the tailend of andy sinton too
pressman has no current analogue in the football league, it's sad
What a time to be alive.
Also, fact fans, Ferguson only bought Eric Cantona because he wasn't able to buy his number one target. That man was David Hirst. Yep... David Hirst.
To be fair, Hirst was actually a brilliant Lineker-esque striker with a lot of pace. Again, injuries did for him.
that was measured as 'one of the hardest shots ever struck' at 95 mph, seems so arbitrary they chose it
hit the bar anyway
Bit of a scramble in the goal mouth, falls to him about 5 yards out, and he smashed it SO hard I swear it could've gone through the net. Absolutely walloped the cunt. Not seen anything like it since.
One of my favourite things in football is when a loose ball is trundling towards someone 25 yards from goal and you can hear a very audible `HIT IT!!!!!!!` from the crowd.
Someone would've done that in the away end and would've been rewarded with that. Justice well and truly served there.
think the ultimate HIT IT SON is Jon Harley for Fulham vs Villa
But that's pretty good. Not sure why Kasey Keller took about 6 months to react there though.
that the ensuing pitch invasion was responsible for the most synthetic fur ever been seen in one place at the same time. Literally every kid who runs on the pitch has a parka on!
That's right, Steve BACON.
He found the keys to the pie cupboard pretty soon after retiring eh?
Absolutely HATE HIM.
I was only little when he played for Everton, but remember watching him on Match of the Day along with Julian Joachim and loving it.
What happened there? Wasn't there something about a lack of discipline off the pitch?
Pretty embarrassing. Pretty sure he pulled Kvarme's pants down so hard he never played for the club again.
Yeah I think he may have had the odd FRACAS or something. Combination of that and him not being very good.
ah, everton used to be so shit
I meant that they were both amongst my favourite footballers to watch when I was aged around 8. Also, my uncle supports Everton which might have helped).
expected him to drop into non league about 4 years ago
he was mostly pretty ordinary for us but always worked hard and stuff. just surprised that all the injuries haven't completely derailed his career
the Palace lad is Matt Jansen, he had that horrible bike crash
Got about £40 sitting in my William Hill account and I've just changed debit cards, so I'd have to do what's equivalent to the seven labours of Hercules to withdraw it. I either want some bets that will blow it altogether or some that'll make it worth the faff to draw it out.
£40 estimated return of £1,040
And Mourinho bellending through the season will mean Mata wouldn't make the world cup. Really mental
Still don't like AVB after his whiny spell at Chelsea. And, you know, Spurs.
with no antics of any kind.
with 2 red cards, at least one pen, and Mourinho getting sent to the stands.
where he pulls down other players shorts
PORTUGUESE MEN AT WAR!
one look at our shit suggestions and suddenly it doesn't look quite so bad
that really crackles off the page.
One paper for me please!
Imagine the joylessness of a meths universe
Don't want to hype it up too much.
Would cover most of the day's stories, which would be a plus
Against Blackpool. So I have the enviable task of finding a pub in Bristol to put the sound on for a Friday evening football league game.
I had many years of doing this re: norwich games in glasgow
About AVB and Mourinho. It's the only way to hype up a match that looks on paper more boring than Stoke - West Ham
3 goals conceded between them and 10 goals scored. None of Chelsea's strikers have any league goals ffs
Match over 13/14 being dropped in the same fixture this year.
I just know it's going to be a horrible niggly 0-0 (until Super Lamps nicks one in the 89th min maybe) and I'm going to want to vomit and or kill myself by half-time
Curtailing a celebration so you can swallow vomit is NOT nice
I may literally (LITERALLY) die
To remove all joy and things worth celebrating from 12.45 kick offs to benefit Chelsea's hungover home support? Pretty plausible.
Anyway - the big match. Genuinely too close to call. One thing I'm not liking is all this master vs. apprentice stuff. Not gonna lie to you lads - I think the press are over-egging that one. AVB was his scout/assistant once was he? Good for him.
(this isn't true, football would be infinitely better if it was)
Brian Jensen played for Bury U21s vs Man Utd yesterday. Great stuff.
If BT Sport 2 can be counted as such. Back in the day we were good in televised matches but Kidderminster are a strong team and we're rubbish away so it'll likely be a grim watch.
And can obviously only play 1 keeper, so that's 1 sub that's useless as well. Picked a team of lightweights
We're all taking empty bottles of vodka to shake at Billy Davies
Pretty low blow that. But because it's Billy Davies I'm more than willing to overlook it.
I assume he's alcoholic because he's a) radgey b) Scottish and c) a cunt.
Thought Dom Gourlay snuffed that out.
he kicked nigel clough up the arse. He deserves all he gets. Used to turn up to training absolutely ratarsed according to little whispers
nigel clough SUPPOSEDLY kicked billy up the arse the lying alccy fuck (I like billy davies, he got derby up)
then spent the post-match interview slagging off the board and talking about not signing a contract extension. Utter cunt.
Fucking love Forest vs Derby. Always guaranteed to get a bit punchy. Especially the ones that were on on Friday evenings.
One where Kris Commons scored to win it for The Rams weren't there? Lad's got a Forest tattoo ain't he? Haha AWKWARD.
Turns to pure hatred on matchdays and you have to keep your head down. I cant say I remember that. Didnt ever impress me Commons even though I really liked him at stoke, might have been him strutting around all the time. I didnt know he had a forest tattoo either tbf!
Pretty sure he had a Forest tattoo though, if memory serves.
Used to live with a Derby-supporting myth. He was loving it when Commons signed, remember him mentioning an interview during which Commons laughed that off. He is pretty heavily tatted up though.
You fucking clod.
I have friends. Real ones.
Might well be a myth then. Made for some good bants over at Pride Park back in the day though so no harm done.
Youve got your josé tea towel for company and cry yourself to sleep
I know what I'm supposed to be doing, but WHEN?!
Its a sad day when shabs have to make sense.
Hope they kick you out.
jeeeez. Theyre not going to let us in with glass are they?!
I can't get the cap on my water into the home end at loftus road, but every set of travelling fans can rock up with a full repertoire of explosives to throw on the pitch
Felt proper naughty when I got it in without them finding it.
Things that would constitute marriage rites in many cultures have passed between me and QPR security.
he needs to jazz it up a bit, bored of him trying to gain an advantage by suggesting his rivals can win the title.
correctly awarded pen in about the 25th minute, dodgy decision denying an equaliser after about 63mins, then a 66th minute breakaway seals the points. I've seen this before.
Seen Spurs twice this season and thought they were a bit pants both times but the world at large seems to think they've started excellently. We've not been as bad as has been made out but I could see anyone with pace, like Townsend, fucking us up.
1-0, Willian 90+2 own goal.
reckon we"ll go with lamela sigurdsson and eriksen behind soldado.
capoue is apparently back, would probably rather see sandro and paulinho against whichever of your ridiculously numerous midfielders play, have a feeling dembele will partner paulinho though.
despite the lack of goals both scored and conceded i still worry most about the defence. Lloris has been horrible since he won player of the month.
Would suit both teams.
pretty hyped for matty fryatt's wednesday debut. desperately need a win, although doncaster seem like a pretty decent side.