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I am (vastly) above average of course whilst many of you are deluded. Sorry.
Still better than you though.
everyone knows that (fwiw, i am an awful driver)
although when I've not done it for a while I find it a bit scary and I panic and suht my eyes. I also have to shut my eyes when I drive over the forth road bridge.
by driving, you are not good
Noisy and think they own the road.
(This is the morning thread, right?)
If you think otherwise, you are definitely part of the 1/10...
1st jan, the whole country has to turn up at the local test centre and wait for a test. if they dont get one, tough shit, no driving licence.
You'd have to retake your test in a few weeks.
sorry, i dont make the rules.
I count 7th time lucky as some kind of miracle.
Still a bit of a nightmare to organise, etc though.
and then every five years over the age of 70.
If only because of reaction times and eyesight and things can change, plus people have no legal obligation to actually get their eyes tested once they've passed.
and i have to say that everyone on the motorways was a very good driver. nice work team. the 1/10 people must have all died or something.
parking, not so much... particularly as I drive a hulking estate with the turning circle of a truck
that's how a shark would drive
we are the 1/10
that was a staple on here for a while, him shitting it before his lessons.
For 7 years a huge part of my job was driving around to get to different sites. I was averaging around 700 miles a week.
Didn't have so much as a prang during that time.
i am telling you that nothing you posted shows you are a good driver. 700 miles a week isn't even that much
is not a lot of driving. just because you keep doing that small amount of driving over a long time, does not turn it into a lot of driving
but you are one of the drivers who mistakenly thinks they are an above average driver
Motorway driving is very easy and virtually risk free, compared to city driving, parking, reversing and the like.
Across Bristol, in rural areas, motorways.
Never in London though - although I've done a fair bit of driving around London, but that wasn't part of the big '7' that I was quoting above.
there aren't even any other cars there!
(i.e. control of the car, awareness of the car, awareness of surroundings and risk) is certainly in a city. 5 miles of driving in a city per day is worth 50 driving on rural roads and motorways.
but it doesn't necessarily produce the best drivers, if you take them out of context and put them in another city. The average speed in London is much lower and, if anything, allows for people to change lanes a lot easier as there is a presumption of being allowed into a gap.
Try doing that in Newcastle, and you're likely to get a volley of abuse for trying to push in.
London's certainly the hardest city in the UK in which to drive.
every day from Islington to Heathrow/Islington to St Albans/Ealing to Heathrow - into it then.
Didn't want to break out the bg guns just yet but you've forced me into it..
as saidm driving slower than walking speed counts for nothing
It's all about the context.
and see how long i could go with my eyes closed.
hows that for context?
but they were closed.
You're showing no driving skill driving in a city. You're showing very good risk awareness and hazard observation skills, but you're liable to be driving on well maintained, properly drained roads and you should never be out of control of your car.
Whereas driving on poorly maintained rural roads in winter will make sure your actual driving skills are good because the conditions impact on your direction of travel so much more (eg. accurate steering, careful braking, being in the right gear so you neither lose power on a hill and get stuck in snow nor spin the wheels etc)
I know some great drivers, who have amazing car control but are useless in the city because they have little awareness. I also know people who drive in cities all the time and are very aware of what's going on around them but they shit themselves on rural roads because they can't control a car when the conditions change.
Pot holes everywhere, clutch control needed at all times, sharp maneuvring, burst watermains etc etc.
Risk awareness and hazard observation are part of good driving skills. If you pick an extreme of driving in snow, then that's going to be totally different to just about any other road condition (including rural roads for 350 days of the year).
Apart from wandering livestock, I don't think that I haven't come across any conditions in a city that I came across growing up and learning to drive in a rural area.
But I've driven in plenty of cities, and have driven daily in Edinburgh and Glasgow when I've lived or worked in those cities. There's basically no braking distance due to going so slowly, no lateral movement in the car leading to skids, no gravel or ice other than on the very worst days. No problems.
Equally, I have mates who live in places where the roads are inaccessible by anything other than Land Rover for more than 15 days a year, so while it might seem extreme in London, it certainly ain't in the sticks up here.
Finally, I didn't mean that risk awareness and hazard perception aren't part of good driving skills, they clearly are. What I meant was that they're not the only thing, and fewer people can combine good car control with an awareness of risk and hazard perception because few people drive in mixed driving conditions.
it's a track, not a road.
2) risk awareness
3) hazard observation
motorway driving is virtually risk free? what?
Compared to other types of roads and locations, they are virtually risk free.
Which is understandable, as traffic is highly controlled, free-moving and free of obstructions.
virtually risk free.
but 'virtually risk free' is pushing it.
COMPARED TO CITY DRIVING, PARKING, REVERSING AND THE LIKE.
I know a cat-race pretend lobotomy when I see one.
severity of accident ramps up the danger, for me.
You're looking at a difference, in terms of fatal and serious accidents of 702 per billion miles for motorways and 22,700 for all roads as an average.
(i agree with him though)
If you look at the number of accidents/injuries and fatalities on the roads per driven mile, motorways are far and away the safest places to drive.
Risk is about balancing severity and likelihood. The severity of an accident of on a motorway might be high because of the speed, but the likelihood is very, very low because of the controlled nature of the environment.
it isn't risk free. everyone's going way to fast for it to be risk free.
but that's like the 'planes are well safe' argument that's all well and good until you start thinking about that French flight spending 2 minutes plunging into the Atlantic.
I go far too fast most of the time (only on motorways and that), but I'm fucking great.
I can't reverse park though. Always find a way around that though. Came up with this technique where you drive forwards through the space onto the kerb, then reverse back into the space. Much easier for some reason, but you gotta watch out for pedestrians.
It was a cricket pitch, by the way.
By driving up kerbs though.
The kerbs outside my house are fine for it, but some are fucking huge. I went up one the other day in the van and it scraped the bottom of the van. That's not a kerb, it's a fucking wall.
It's against the highway code and would give you an automatic fail in a driving test for a reason.
Not sure you can call yourself a great driver if you can't parallel park (I'm fucking great at parallel parking).
Also got 39/40 on a theory test/hazard perception thing we had to do.
I've got the best fuel economy out of everyone I work with too.
Probably time to up your game or hand the keys back.
If it was, I would be it :D
I do spend an awful lot of time in my car with my left foot to the floor or the stick in neutral though.
pfft. That's not proper driving.
If that gets me any points back.
you can't drive then. `
Totally seaparte disciplkine, parking isn't even a thing actually.
(I'm fine as long as I can drive nose first into a space and out the other side. Also, bumpers are there for bumping into things, that's why they're called bumpers people.)
in nose first to park.
Not unless you ride the kerb.
I naturally presumed that PO was talking about parallel parking.
I'll always look for a space that is also empty in front of it. I don't parallell park unless I'm in a car that has the wee tv screeen that shows you what's behind you because I don't like using my mirrors, they're confusing.
Which is a great tip for reverse parking.
but I am a fan of reaching your entire body around and putting your armn over the seat behind to reverse like a PRO.
DotS, can you add this to DiS Quotes please?
And I can't even (legally) drive.
and not as much fun as burning off teenage boys at traffic lights.
Dad lets me drive slow on the driveway
can you at least let me have that please?
(Trying to think who on here will have experienced my driving-.... probably a few of you.)
Well not yours personally but certainly your gender's.
Who's a better driver - you're Mum or Dad?
Mum is terrible all round. Dad is in total control of the vehicle and can make it do whatever he wants, he just doesn't pay any attention to where he or any other vehicles are going.
I'm sure it's made him a worse driver.
And when approaching a queue or red light tends to not start slowing down until she has to.
My dad is a decent driver but is prone to letting the red mist descend and can be a bit of an awkward tosser at times.
Both could do with a bit of a defensive driving lesson
I am really good at parking, especially parallel.
I'm not so good at seeing give way things. Those ones at traffic lights always catch me out.
I get very, very pissed off at non-drivers telling me to brake/watch out for things. I SEE THEM.
3 vehicles owned so far, 2 written off, 1 awaiting it's big day