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gone are the days when I think England are in with a shout, but the last world cup without the boys (94) was shit.
actually, Letchcovs diving header v the hun was pretty sweet, but no.
COME ON ENGLAND, ffs!
that's the correct terminology
other than letchov and co
great player, was Hagi
No more half times of "yeah, this game's a bit rubbish. Let's go to Gabby Yorath at the England training camp to hear about what Frank Lampard ate for dinner!".
or Ireland (Houghton's goal against Italy aside).
Brazil, Baggio, Maradona going nuts, hilariously bad ITV coverage - was a great tournament.
a sub-thread needs to be within the existing thread. This is just a thread
given all the crazy goings on in football over the past 24 hours probably doesnt justify its own thread..
Euro 2008 was ace without the stress of wtching England. Maybe I should just accept our chances have gone and enjoy atching while we last. I know we won't win it, so I suppose I already have.
not sure that was anyhting to do with england not being there though. just brilliant games
Arshavin being the best player in the world for a couple weeks
That ground with the huge rock behind the goal
The mental Turkey keeper
Spain and Germany being young and attacking and amazing
All the stodgy teams getting dicked on
watching the English media threaten the referee/blame some England player for getting sent off after the England side gets schooled in the quarter-finals is about the most entertainment we get. They're providing a valuable service out there.
do you think you would enjoy the 2014 World Cup more if New Zealand didn't qualify?
the golden boot
someone's said it
Then no, I wouldn't enjoy it more. Chris Killen was born to grace that stage.
dark, dark days
Not only because of how tedious all of the media furore becomes, but because England fans abroad are utterly embarrassing (as I discovered in Rio earlier this year). The image of a fat shirtless sunburnt Spurs fan leant against the Statue Of Christ publicly lambasting Brazil and it's entire population still haunts me to this day. Let them enjoy their World Cup without us ruining it I say.
and the poles. and those other guyss
it's mostly about the media for me. I hate the fact that they can't just cover other games without turning everything into a feature about what Joe Hart's mum had for breakfast the morning after each qualifying game or how 'Stevie G' refers to 'Lamps' during training sessions.
but no, I'm not the sort of soulless bore who would take pleasure in their nation's side not qualifying for a tournament.
I'll take three weeks of slightly annoying bravado over about four years of bilious, often borderline racist handwringing of England's failure to qualify.
is a really fun experience you don't get with anything else. So no.
with the lads, obviously. beers/sofa/other stuff
Pop your England shirt on, turn down the collar, get a proper haircut and get yourself to the boozer. Only way.
means that I can rock back and take in games with a bit more objectivity and enjoy it more as an event.
However, there's no thrill quite like watching your country in an international tournament, no matter how shit they are. It's a brilliant thing. I know people on here climb over each other to attempt to deny themselves and others this pleasure but... for the most part, it's great.
And we never expect to win them when we do qualify, even though we haven't since 1998! Fuck sakes scotland, get yer finger out!
the football? i'd probably enjoy it exactly the same. especially because if England don't qualify, the equally turgid Ukraine probably will
Not because England weren't in them (England v Cameroon and England v West Germany were rare high points in 1990, ditto England v Netherlands/Germany in 1996), they were just much better tournaments on the whole.
I enjoy every van and car having a little St George's flag on it. I enjoy people who don't know anything about football getting interested and confused.I even enjoy the 'bringing the nation together' bit where we inevitably crap out on penalties in the quarter finals. There's just a strange atmosphere in the country - almost as though everyone is somehow on holiday and a bit giddy.
so I guess it's better when they're in