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1) Buy a £28 shoulder of pork
2) Put it in the oven for six hours
That comment about the big tv's last week was pretty poor, but he seems like a good egg and does loads of good stuff for du kidz.
His books are turdo, though.
Not everyone can chop veg, boil a pan and keep everything organised at exactly the right speed. On the whole they're pretty foolproof, but I rely on timers and stuff to get it all together.
Agree though that his recipes/books are generally excellent and can have you producing some quality meals.
remember when you banned me because you're a little crybaby that can't handle people with differing opinions on the internet
Who'da thunk it?!
You just weigh up the consensus opinion within a thread and post the counterpoint with a healthy dose of smugness.
stop wetting the bed and grow up.
It is something like £3.50 for a decent chunk of meat, I buy them and put them in the slow cooker for 8 hours. He probably buys the organic version and whacks a load of lemon, chilli and coriander on there. These chefs need to remember that a bunch of coriander and the use of a whole lemon to slightly perk up a dish really does add up in terms of cost. He is trying I suppose, my idea of money saving meals however is getting several tins of dented kidney beans and chickpeas and making a bean chilli out of them. Probably feeds 10 for less than £2.
the sort of people who can only afford really cheap meals won't have what most of these chefs consider a basic larder.
oh you MUST get organic meat and don't even TOUCH things like those horrible unsustainably caught fish fingers!
Sorry mate but a whole box of fish fingers can feed your babbers for less than a quid and you can cook them from frozen in 14 minutes after you come back from your 12 hour shift working in a chicken factory.
but if you are using that 29p just to smear a bit of zest into some pasta sauce, or use the juice to perk up some leaves with a "glug" of olive oil on every dish, it adds up. Same with fresh herbs, 80p or so a bag seems alright but it really isn't if you are just sprinkling it on top of a curry and you are saving pennies to pay an electricity bill.
advise people to buy a bottle of jif lemon for less than a quid. Instant lemon flavour which will last for months.
along with the cleaning stuff. Pretty much the same stuff is it not?
You can freeze them too
Also having a warm windowsill makes it easy to grow a few herbs.
I've not done it, but with a few small bottles you can make some handy flavoured oils as well which means that adding herbs doesn't cost a fortune or required a full herb garden.
But you can get them from Aldi for half the price, and you don't have to compromise on quality either
same for basil. Of course if someone is supporting themselves by working 80 hours a week (gross) doing cleaning jobs (very possible as some have to hae several jobs travelling here and there) then the last thing they might be wanting to do will be to plan and prepare meals.
You can just steal a few herbs here and there until you've got a respectable collection
For cheap recipe ideas, I go here http://agirlcalledjack.com/category/below-the-line-budget-recipes/
and i think people do need to eat better.
spare me your righteous indignation on behalf of factory workers and housing benefit mums.
Some of his recent words were perhaps not widely chosen, but a lot of the criticism of his basic idea - eat as well as you can within your means - seems to be "how dare someone with lots of money advise people with less money on how they could look after themselves a bit"... and that to me is as patronising as they claim he is.
No one is criticicing his basic idea, just the hamfisted way he went about trying to articulate it - he didn't advise, or seek to understand, he just condemned.
As linked up thread, jack Monroe demonstrates how to convey the same message without implying contempt or errecting barriers.
but making a 'cheap' fish pie with "sustainably sourced" salmon, prawns and white fish, adding non-essential garnishes like mustard or even using olive oil to fry instead of sunflower oil and butter instead of margarine for cooking just shows up that he doesn't really understand the market that he says he's talking about.
Virtually every one of the recipes on his website for this programme are in a similar vein - white wine vinegar, fennel seeds and so on. They no doubt make for great tasting food most of the time, and could well be relatively cheap by his normal recipe's standards (God knows I've spent a lot making a couple of them in the past), but for someone close to the breadline ingredients like '6–8 higher-welfare quality sausages (at least 80% meat)" simply aren't affordable, no matter how much better they are for you than Tesco Value bangers.
and then suggests things like, "added chunks of rabbit, duck or pheasant would also be delicious."
Obviously, the other two less so.
Poor people are just lazzy
that his kitchen is beautifully stocked with state of the art equipment ready to be used at a moments notice. I see him quite a lot using that posh food processor, dribbling oil into it to get the exact texture etc... Not sure how many genuinely poor people have access to the machines he uses to make his meals cheaper and simpler.
I think Oliver's national campaigns to get schools to feed children better and lobbying the government to take it more seriously have been tremendously effective. Fair play to him. Not sure he's best suited to infiltrating peoples' consciousness on a household/family level and telling them how to eat mind. Think he should fuck off, quite frankly.
into ensuring that those who don't/won't cook and only have the absolute basics in their kitchen know how to make the best of it. Do a a *basic* spaghetti bolognese or a simple stir fry where you just need a saucepan, wooden spoon and frying pan, and make it from ingredients you can get in Tesco Metro or the Co-op without resorting to the larder for spices and garnishes.
Unfortunately, he's unwittingly(?) made a programme aimed at stretched middle-income people instead.
about how many people don't know the basics of cooking and can't make things that for many of us are ridiculously easy. I'd wager that for a fair number of people, it's not just financial poverty that stops them from eating well, it's a lack of knowledge and skills too (particularly with Home Ec not being taught well in a lot of schools).
before a lot of them got closed down.
Although it must be noted that it's the stretched middle-income people who can just about afford to buy his books as well...
Anyway - you're right. But didn't Delia cover all of that off with her two series' `How to Cook` and `How to cheat at Cooking`? That's basically what she did, right? Without all of the `BISH BASH BOSH GET IT THERE BIG FELLA DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH THAT GARLIC JUST SMASH IT IN THE PAN` nonsense that goes with it.
sales through the floor as the nation starts cooking cauliflower rice.
he's a proper twat.
Just chops shit up really coarsely, glugs some olive oil over the top and serves on a shitty wooden board he found in a skip somewhere in the middle of the table 'cos it looks all rustic
BUT if you don't have a food processor (hi!) add an extra 15 minutes to them.
where he was cooking for Athlete (Ath-er-lete as he calls them) at some festival and it looked quite new.
Haven't seen this series though.
he's still at it
His fucking mum?
Chuck baked beans in when making bolognese to double the number of portions. BULKED OUT BATCH COOKING.
Need to bulk out that venison steak, and sweet potato chips and slow roasted paprika veg dish? Bosh a mugload of beans and sweetcorn on the cunt.
And you can even pick out the corn husks from your children's shit afterwards- bish bash bosh theres breakfast you cunt
check your privilege bean boy
you're using the wrong beans
I always have to double the quantity of any taste-related ingredients. I maybe just can't taste subtle food because i smoke and drink, but yeah- bland. He has a fat tongue.
(handy for getting the last bit out of dairylea dunkers or tubs of choc dips.)
Can we stop talking about tongues now thanks.
puts in about 4 times as much cream, salt, butter and sugar as anyone humanly needs.
And the amount of oil he uses. Dear God, THE OIL...
Just gonna drizzle [half a fucking bottle] some oil over
impossible to do in less than half an hour / 45 minutes.
And I have a blender (they're cheap and you can make hummus)
I want one of those vitamixes, can turn a chicken carcass into smooth soup in 5 minutes
before he started serving all his food on those ridiculous wooden boards. Nothing annoys me more than pretentious crockery at restaurants.
it was a restaurant that did 'food experiments' like captured the essence of a chicken pot pie in a shot of clear liquid that you downed and it supposedly tasted just like a chicken pot pie.
anyway for dessert, the chef comes to your table with a big canvas and puts it in front of you, then creates an impressionist style painting with various sweet fluids and gives you a spoon. $50 to you mate.
2 bottles of vinegar, a bag of sugar, two fat hands full of salt, bosh. Keep them for months now and then thrown them away.